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Reply #30 posted 03/12/17 12:08pm

eyewishuheaven

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Shockedelicus said:

I'm pretty sure only Purple Rain, 1999 and Sign are on the table for deluxe albums. The rest just don't have the star power of those three records. Maybe the rest of the 80's albums will get some touchups for anniversaries, but I think hoping for anything else is a longshot.


I'm still hopeful. WB/Rhino recently released deluxe remasters of a-ha's 3rd, 4th, and 5th albums, and those weren't exactly huge sellers in North America.

I've no doubt that the desire is there, but the legalities are in the way. All we can do is keep showing them that the interest is there.

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Reply #31 posted 03/12/17 12:38pm

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I've just had an idea inspired by a comment in the PR deluxe thread about moonbeam levels getting a music video to promote it;

The only way I'd be happy about an album of tracks not recorded during a specific year/era is if it consisted of tracks that also had videos made that were scrapped.
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Reply #32 posted 03/13/17 5:22am

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eyewishuheaven said:

Shockedelicus said:

I'm pretty sure only Purple Rain, 1999 and Sign are on the table for deluxe albums. The rest just don't have the star power of those three records. Maybe the rest of the 80's albums will get some touchups for anniversaries, but I think hoping for anything else is a longshot.


I'm still hopeful. WB/Rhino recently released deluxe remasters of a-ha's 3rd, 4th, and 5th albums, and those weren't exactly huge sellers in North America.

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Some useful background to those A-Ha re-issues: http://www.superdeluxeedi...uing-a-ha/

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Reply #33 posted 03/13/17 9:36am

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BartVanHemelen said:

eyewishuheaven said:


I'm still hopeful. WB/Rhino recently released deluxe remasters of a-ha's 3rd, 4th, and 5th albums, and those weren't exactly huge sellers in North America.

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Some useful background to those A-Ha re-issues: http://www.superdeluxeedi...uing-a-ha/


Ah yes! A very fine article indeed. cool

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Reply #34 posted 03/14/17 2:23am

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eyewishuheaven said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Some useful background to those A-Ha re-issues: http://www.superdeluxeedi...uing-a-ha/


Ah yes! A very fine article indeed. cool

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Those A-ha deluxe editions are amazing!.

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Anything A-ha does is great!.

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lol

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Reply #35 posted 03/14/17 2:25am

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If Warners were to have a Prince release schedule similar to David Bowie's then all Prince re-issues in multi-disc formats will be out next week.

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Sometimes it can be too much - but I'm sure with Prince releases it will be like pulling teeth waiting!

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lol

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Reply #36 posted 03/19/17 4:54am

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Reply #37 posted 03/19/17 6:01am

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darkroman said:

If Warners were to have a Prince release schedule similar to David Bowie's then all Prince re-issues in multi-disc formats will be out next week.

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As well as Bowie's been handling this, the reality is that the Bowie reissues are a mess as well, with some albums being re-released numerous times while others remain MIA. The recently started "multi-year" box set approach does look to be a bit more systematic, but there's still a scattershot approach to plenty of his re-issues.

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It's infuriating how badly some artists handle this process. Paul McCartney for instance is about to release a deluxe edition of an album where much of the extra tracks (B-sides etc.) will be... download only! And the reasons given for that are just inane "oh Paul wanted there to be only three discs" (ignoring that at least one previous similar set had more discs), etc. Another artist vetoed the inclusion of some remixes released back in the day because he didn't like them -- what a great idea: inform your fans that they've wasted money back then on shite.

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Reply #38 posted 03/19/17 7:03am

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BartVanHemelen said:

darkroman said:

If Warners were to have a Prince release schedule similar to David Bowie's then all Prince re-issues in multi-disc formats will be out next week.

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As well as Bowie's been handling this, the reality is that the Bowie reissues are a mess as well, with some albums being re-released numerous times while others remain MIA. The recently started "multi-year" box set approach does look to be a bit more systematic, but there's still a scattershot approach to plenty of his re-issues.

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It's infuriating how badly some artists handle this process. Paul McCartney for instance is about to release a deluxe edition of an album where much of the extra tracks (B-sides etc.) will be... download only! And the reasons given for that are just inane "oh Paul wanted there to be only three discs" (ignoring that at least one previous similar set had more discs), etc. Another artist vetoed the inclusion of some remixes released back in the day because he didn't like them -- what a great idea: inform your fans that they've wasted money back then on shite.


And yet we can get a 20-disc Dead Or Alive boxed set. lol

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Reply #39 posted 03/19/17 7:58am

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I heard from an insider that WB are working on deluxe treatments for some 80's Prince albums !

PS>this is no an official info or confirmation....only whispers unconfirmed

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Reply #40 posted 03/19/17 1:40pm

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eyewishuheaven said:

And yet we can get a 20-disc Dead Or Alive boxed set. lol

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Where they had to replace half the discs because they all contained errors. But yeah, sometimes one wonders.

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The idiocy is also that for smaller bands labels often agree to allow specialist labels to release special editions, which then results is sometimes great box sets. Of course they won't allow that for the big names, yet at the same time they don't release such packages for those artists.

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Eurythmics had a bunch of decent special editions, but it was severely incomplete and for instance 1984 seems to be in some kind of legal purgatory (because soundtrack etc.). Pet Shop Boys did examplary work, though there were still some gaps and those don't seem to get filled.

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I still find it baffling that both Michael Jackson and Madonna's back catalogue is so poorly treated. Surely the both of them would be massive money makers, instead we get an SE of Bad that includes a bunch of godawful modern remixes?

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Reply #41 posted 03/19/17 2:53pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

I still find it baffling that both Michael Jackson and Madonna's back catalogue is so poorly treated. Surely the both of them would be massive money makers, instead we get an SE of Bad that includes a bunch of godawful modern remixes?


So true.

I don't know why the labels don't engage the fanbase more when it comes to planning these things. Do they think it would make them look indecisive and confused, or something? We hear whispers about them creeping around on forums, but... ask us! Conduct a poll! Then they can proceed in making a knockout product, and we fans can feel all warm and fuzzy for having been asked. Are they concerned that doing so would take the wind out of the all-important press release?

I just feel like it could all be so much easier. confused

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Reply #42 posted 03/19/17 2:56pm

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eyewishuheaven said:

BartVanHemelen said:

I still find it baffling that both Michael Jackson and Madonna's back catalogue is so poorly treated. Surely the both of them would be massive money makers, instead we get an SE of Bad that includes a bunch of godawful modern remixes?


So true.

I don't know why the labels don't engage the fanbase more when it comes to planning these things. Do they think it would make them look indecisive and confused, or something? We hear whispers about them creeping around on forums, but... ask us! Conduct a poll! Then they can proceed in making a knockout product, and we fans can feel all warm and fuzzy for having been asked. Are they concerned that doing so would take the wind out of the all-important press release?

I just feel like it could all be so much easier. confused

yeahthat They can ask us Prince fans , same with MJ and Madonna on their forums.

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Reply #43 posted 03/19/17 3:02pm

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His three top popular albums were 1999, Purple Rain, and then Diamonds and Pearls, right?

His critical darlings (that are not on that list) were Dirty Mind, and SOTT.

My personal fave is Black Album.

I wonder if there were sequences for more Hit n Run albums... remember the artwork that seemed to go back to different years? Maybe that was never a plan.

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Reply #44 posted 03/21/17 2:48am

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eyewishuheaven said:

BartVanHemelen said:

I still find it baffling that both Michael Jackson and Madonna's back catalogue is so poorly treated. Surely the both of them would be massive money makers, instead we get an SE of Bad that includes a bunch of godawful modern remixes?


So true.

I don't know why the labels don't engage the fanbase more when it comes to planning these things. Do they think it would make them look indecisive and confused, or something? We hear whispers about them creeping around on forums, but... ask us! Conduct a poll! Then they can proceed in making a knockout product, and we fans can feel all warm and fuzzy for having been asked. Are they concerned that doing so would take the wind out of the all-important press release?

I just feel like it could all be so much easier. confused



That's what happens when you put management school sophomores in charge and ask them for nothing but an immediate return on investment. Either Michael was already up there, or he had no control over his publishing rights, but to take pop monuments such as "Thriller" and "Bad" as an advertising platform for the latest A&R arse kissers and their coke-induced, noisy, useless remixes is criminal, and not in a smooth way.

They acted like 20th century old farts when the mp3 arrived.
They acted like 20th century old farts when the iPod and the iTunes Store arrived.
They acted like 20th century old farts when broadband became the norm and allowed for Piratebay, Megaupload and torrents to flood the world with gigabytes of data.

Leverage social networks to build a product suited to the audience?
Forget it, they still don't get what epoch we're in.

They deserve each and everyone of the illegal downloads that they're so prompt to punish.


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Reply #45 posted 03/21/17 7:56am

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luvsexy4all said:

since sign is his next best seller ..it probably would be...

1999 is.

Thought it was D&P

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Reply #46 posted 03/21/17 7:07pm

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what do they have to lose????? face?? they wont lose money ..so why not do it...

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Reply #47 posted 03/22/17 7:08am

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jcurley said:

TKO said:

1999 is.

Thought it was D&P

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http://musicfans.stackexc...m/a/89/129

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However, Prince would only get this $10 million advance if the previous album has sold at least 5 million copies, i.e. it is an advance on sales, basically an interest-free loan, which would have to be paid back to the record label if sales were low — actually, deducted from royalties on older albums. An important clause, because while Prince's 13 albums had sold nearly 53 million, an average of 4.1 million each, a large chunk of that is due to 1984's Purple Rain, his bestseller at 14.7 million. As a matter of fact, only three of his albums had sold more than 5 million copies, though one of those was his latest album, Diamonds & Pearls.

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You can also look at https://en.wikipedia.org/...dio_albums .

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