Help me understand about Prince living at Paisley Park?

Reply #91 posted 02/20/17 2:07pm

Lovejunky said:

rogifan said:

KaresB said:

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"He told me he wanted to take up all of my time" is definitely not something Prince would've said to woman if he had romantic intentions. And Judith wouldn't have 'outed' their romantic relationship like that if they had one. To me that line sounds exactly like a professional compliment to another artist, nothing more.

Stop fantasising. Prince didn't sleep with all his associates.

Unfortunately there are people who believe that to be the case and think anyone who doesn't is just being naïve. Actually I find the notion that Prince couldn't have a relationship with a women without it being sexual in nature deeply insulting to both Prince and his female bandmates/associates.

Indeed....

Actually if people would just Calm down a little bit and STOP all their projections, its quite easy to discern that the MAN Prince of the Last 3 or 4 years was vastly different that the young boy Prince who started out..

His style of dress alone should tell you that he was no longer going after the "Sexy"His clothing was almost Monastic...it was fuss free, without so much embellishment , "bells and WHistles"

I imagine it took him a whole lot less time to get ready in the Mornings, his mind was on other things.

THe young women he had around him, his relationship with a lot of them would have been very Paternal, or brotherly...In the last few years we started hearing a lot more of the "Uncle P" bit..

He probably still did romance one or two here and there...(big grin for FLY ) but not every one of them ...

His reverence for women took on another dimension, it became more about the MIND not so much the Body....

--/ And you know this because you had a long conversation with him. Oh and know one said he was going with all of them. Leopards do not change their strips.

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Reply #92 posted 02/20/17 2:09pm

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laurarichardson said:
mnfriend said:
Hilarious . She was blushing re-telling.
--I mentioned these incidents before along with that honey collective business. Why would a celibate man be looking at women like s pork chop? I think after his divorce he said he was celibate to make the JWs happy and maybe trying but he was a man. I also suspect that he was not abusing these meds for long because one of the side effects is importance. [Edited 2/16/17 20:09pm]

But he was a JW quite of few years, in the beginning years you are probably right. But maybe the last 1-2 years he was actually being celibate.

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Reply #93 posted 02/20/17 3:39pm

laurarichardson said:
Lovejunky said:

Indeed....

Actually if people would just Calm down a little bit and STOP all their projections, its quite easy to discern that the MAN Prince of the Last 3 or 4 years was vastly different that the young boy Prince who started out..

His style of dress alone should tell you that he was no longer going after the "Sexy"His clothing was almost Monastic...it was fuss free, without so much embellishment , "bells and WHistles"

I imagine it took him a whole lot less time to get ready in the Mornings, his mind was on other things.

THe young women he had around him, his relationship with a lot of them would have been very Paternal, or brotherly...In the last few years we started hearing a lot more of the "Uncle P" bit..

He probably still did romance one or two here and there...(big grin for FLY ) but not every one of them ...

His reverence for women took on another dimension, it became more about the MIND not so much the Body....

--/ And you know this because you had a long conversation with him. Oh and know one said he was going with all of them. Leopards do not change their strips.

Powers of OBSERVATION....

that...

and I personally know one young Musician that Prince was "pursuing" for want of a better word since 2013...Her stories and account of his interactions with her say a whole lot ....

Nik West was pursued by Prince in a similar way..

I stand by what I said..

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Reply #94 posted 02/20/17 4:18pm

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

rogifan said:

KaresB said:

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"He told me he wanted to take up all of my time" is definitely not something Prince would've said to woman if he had romantic intentions. And Judith wouldn't have 'outed' their romantic relationship like that if they had one. To me that line sounds exactly like a professional compliment to another artist, nothing more.

Stop fantasising. Prince didn't sleep with all his associates.

Unfortunately there are people who believe that to be the case and think anyone who doesn't is just being naïve. Actually I find the notion that Prince couldn't have a relationship with a women without it being sexual in nature deeply insulting to both Prince and his female bandmates/associates.

Indeed....

His style of dress alone should tell you that he was no longer going after the "Sexy"His clothing was almost Monastic...it was fuss free, without so much embellishment , "bells and WHistles"

I imagine it took him a whole lot less time to get ready in the Mornings, his mind was on other things.

THe young women he had around him, his relationship with a lot of them would have been very Paternal, or brotherly...In the last few years we started hearing a lot more of the "Uncle P" bit..

He probably still did romance one or two here and there...(big grin for FLY ) but not every one of them ...

His reverence for women took on another dimension, it became more about the MIND not so much the Body....

--/ And you know this because you had a long conversation with him. Oh and know one said he was going with all of them. Leopards do not change their strips.

Oh really? Says who? Also I'm not inclined to believe all these unnamed women. I'm sure there are some who want people to think Prince was after them.

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Reply #95 posted 02/20/17 4:20pm

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

I'm mostly talking avout the Time from M1 forward. How many of these tell-alls were after that?

--We have some coming down the pipeline. Dionne Faris is going to write one, Mayte is going to write a book, Kim the hair dresser is going to write a book, a while ago Sheila E said she was going to a part 2 for her book, there is a rumor that Susanannha is writing a book and Jill Jones had told so much she should go ahead and write one. Cat is writing a book.
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And how many of these women was he involved with after M2?

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Reply #96 posted 02/20/17 4:23pm

Lovejunky said:

rogifan said:

KaresB said:

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"He told me he wanted to take up all of my time" is definitely not something Prince would've said to woman if he had romantic intentions. And Judith wouldn't have 'outed' their romantic relationship like that if they had one. To me that line sounds exactly like a professional compliment to another artist, nothing more.

Stop fantasising. Prince didn't sleep with all his associates.

Unfortunately there are people who believe that to be the case and think anyone who doesn't is just being naïve. Actually I find the notion that Prince couldn't have a relationship with a women without it being sexual in nature deeply insulting to both Prince and his female bandmates/associates.

Indeed....

His style of dress alone should tell you that he was no longer going after the "Sexy"His clothing was almost Monastic...it was fuss free, without so much embellishment , "bells and WHistles"

I imagine it took him a whole lot less time to get ready in the Mornings, his mind was on other things.

THe young women he had around him, his relationship with a lot of them would have been very Paternal, or brotherly...In the last few years we started hearing a lot more of the "Uncle P" bit..

He probably still did romance one or two here and there...(big grin for FLY ) but not every one of them ...

His reverence for women took on another dimension, it became more about the MIND not so much the Body....

Thank you. It actually creeps me out a bit that some people think this way. And I'm not talking about not believing he was celibate but assuming he was banging every woman he came in contact with as if someone can't grow, mature and perhaps have different priorties as they get older. Like Prince told Arsenio Hall in 2014: there's a lot of things he did 30 years ago that he doesn't do any more. wink

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Reply #97 posted 02/20/17 4:43pm

rogifan said:
Lovejunky said:

His reverence for women took on another dimension, it became more about the MIND not so much the Body....

Thank you. It actually creeps me out a bit that some people think this way. And I'm not talking about not believing he was celibate but assuming he was banging every woman he came in contact with as if someone can't grow, mature and perhaps have different priorties as they get older. Like Prince told Arsenio Hall in 2014: there's a lot of things he did 30 years ago that he doesn't do any more.

SAME !!!!!

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Reply #98 posted 02/20/17 5:30pm

Lovejunky said:

laurarichardson said:
Lovejunky said: --/ And you know this because you had a long conversation with him. Oh and know one said he was going with all of them. Leopards do not change their strips.

Powers of OBSERVATION....

that...

and I personally know one young Musician that Prince was "pursuing" for want of a better word since 2013...Her stories and account of his interactions with her say a whole lot ....

Nik West was pursued by Prince in a similar way..

I stand by what I said..

Love, I never got the impression that Prince was pursuing Nik West romantically. From all her reflections, it sounds like they developed a really special friendship. In fact, she referred to him as her "best friend." He even introduced her to Andy Allo and Nik "liked" the photo of Prince leaving the Dakota carrying Andy's coat to the car. She left the following comment on Andy's heartbreaking tribute to Prince on Instagram:

nikwestbass It hurts really bad. And everything you said is exactly who he was. I appreciate him for introducing us. His legacy will live on through the artists he inspired. Through his music, through our music. I'd never beaten him at ping pong as he knew I had no hand eye coordination. But the few that could beat him, were really special. Keep shining. 😞💜

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Reply #99 posted 02/20/17 5:55pm

Fly..you may have misunderstood me...

I was using the word PURSUED loosley becasue most girls that Prince sought out to mentor or work alongside, never believed it was really Prince at first so had to go hard at it... smile

I was saying that My Musical Friend here in Australia was Pursued by Prince in the same way that he Pursued Nik...

A very specail LOVE

It was a friendship, mentorship,brotherly fatherly kind of thing...He wanted to encourage support,and guide There was a sweetness to these relationships....almost a purity

No hint of anything like what other people suggest...

FlyOnTheWall said:

Lovejunky said:

Love, I never got the impression that Prince was pursuing Nik West romantically. From all her reflections, it sounds like they developed a really special friendship. In fact, she referred to him as her "best friend." He even introduced her to Andy Allo and Nik "liked" the photo of Prince leaving the Dakota carrying Andy's coat to the car. She left the following comment on Andy's heartbreaking tribute to Prince on Instagram:

nikwestbass It hurts really bad. And everything you said is exactly who he was. I appreciate him for introducing us. His legacy will live on through the artists he inspired. Through his music, through our music. I'd never beaten him at ping pong as he knew I had no hand eye coordination. But the few that could beat him, were really special. Keep shining. 😞💜

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Reply #100 posted 02/20/17 6:09pm

Lovejunky said:

Fly..you may have misunderstood me...

I was using the word PURSUED loosley becasue most girls that Prince sought out to mentor or work alongside, never believed it was really Prince at first so had to go hard at it...

I was saying that My Musical Friend here in Australia was Pursued by Prince in the same way that he Pursued Nik...

A very specail LOVE

It was a friendship, mentorship,brotherly fatherly kind of thing...He wanted to encourage support,and guide There was a sweetness to these relationships....almost a purity

No hint of anything like what other people suggest...

FlyOnTheWall said:

OH, Love, I did misunderstand. I'm glad we cleared that up. I think some people really believe that the older, evolved Prince was still trying to bang everything walking. Heck, I don't even believe that young Prince was doing nearly as much as the legends would have us to believe. I think some of it was P's carefully crafted "cocksman" persona.

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Reply #101 posted 02/20/17 6:28pm

FlyOnTheWall said:

Lovejunky said:

Fly..you may have misunderstood me...

I was using the word PURSUED loosley becasue most girls that Prince sought out to mentor or work alongside, never believed it was really Prince at first so he had to go hard at it...

I was saying that My Musical Friend here in Australia was Pursued by Prince in the same way that he Pursued Nik...

A very specail LOVE

It was a friendship, mentorship,brotherly fatherly kind of thing...He wanted to encourage support,and guide There was a sweetness to these relationships....almost a purity

No hint of anything like what other people suggest...

OH, Love, I did understand. I'm glad we cleared that up. I think some people really believe that the older, evolved Prince was still trying to bang everything walking. Heck, I don't even believe that young Prince was doing nearly as much as the legends would have us to believe. I think some of it was P's carefully crafted "cocksman" persona.

Agreed..

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Reply #102 posted 02/20/17 6:49pm

Lovejunky said:

rogifan said:
KaresB said: Unfortunately there are people who believe that to be the case and think anyone who doesn't is just being naïve. Actually I find the notion that Prince couldn't have a relationship with a women without it being sexual in nature deeply insulting to both Prince and his female bandmates/associates.

Indeed....

Actually if people would just Calm down a little bit and STOP all their projections, its quite easy to discern that the MAN Prince of the Last 3 or 4 years was vastly different that the young boy Prince who started out..

His style of dress alone should tell you that he was no longer going after the "Sexy"His clothing was almost Monastic...it was fuss free, without so much embellishment , "bells and WHistles"

I imagine it took him a whole lot less time to get ready in the Mornings, his mind was on other things.

THe young women he had around him, his relationship with a lot of them would have been very Paternal, or brotherly...In the last few years we started hearing a lot more of the "Uncle P" bit..

He probably still did romance one or two here and there...(big grin for FLY ) but not every one of them ...

His reverence for women took on another dimension, it became more about the MIND not so much the Body....

nod I don't know how I missed this before now, Love. falloff

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Reply #103 posted 02/20/17 6:58pm

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

And how many of these women was he involved with after M2?

Give it time. I am sure some if these women who have discussed their interactions with him will talk. La La Escarza, Andy, Judith, Kandance Springs and Judith Hill.
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Reply #104 posted 02/20/17 7:10pm

FlyOnTheWall	laurarichardson said: rogifan said: And how many of these women was he involved with after M2? Give it time. I am sure some if these women who have discussed their interactions with him will talk. La La Escarza, Andy, Judith, Kandance Springs and Judith Hill. [Edited 2/20/17 18:58pm] I'm willing to bet that the ones talking shared very little, if any, true intimacy with Prince.
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Reply #105 posted 02/20/17 8:45pm

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Actually him living at Paisley Park is not that odd. Just think of it like a lot of wealthy celebrities have movie theatres in their homes , Basketball courts,bowling alleys etc. Also some people (regular folks,non- celebrity) work out of their homes where they have an office,phone,copier & fax machine. I'm sure Prince's Paisley Park Studios have everything one would want n a residence and workplace

I did hear that Prince does have another house in Minneapolis,a more traditional home.

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Reply #106 posted 02/21/17 6:05am

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For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.

On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!

Just breaks my heart

You sound scared. Prince wasn't scared.

What?

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Reply #107 posted 02/21/17 6:06am

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Imo.

What?

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Reply #108 posted 02/21/17 6:11am

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

And how many of these women was he involved with after M2?

Give it time. I am sure some if these women who have discussed their interactions with him will talk. La La Escarza, Andy, Judith, Kandance Springs and Judith Hill.
[Edited 2/20/17 18:58pm]

I kind of get the feeling you want them to talk. Or are hoping some will talk to validate your theories.

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Reply #109 posted 02/21/17 6:15am

FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
And how many of these women was he involved with after M2?

Give it time. I am sure some if these women who have discussed their interactions with him will talk. La La Escarza, Andy, Judith, Kandance Springs and Judith Hill. [Edited 2/20/17 18:58pm]

I'm willing to bet that the ones talking shared very little, if any, true intimacy with Prince.

Aside from M1 I would agree. And like I said I'm sure some women want people to think Prince was after them. I wouldn't be surprised if they exaggerate to some extent. I swear I read somewhere that others have disputed some of the things Kandace Springs said.

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Reply #110 posted 02/21/17 6:43am

rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
And how many of these women was he involved with after M2?

Give it time. I am sure some if these women who have discussed their interactions with him will talk. La La Escarza, Andy, Judith, Kandance Springs and Judith Hill. [Edited 2/20/17 18:58pm]

I'm willing to bet that the ones talking shared very little, if any, true intimacy with Prince.

Dr. Funk said Kandance should not have said what she said he did not dispute it. In addition, what is bad about Prince picking up at airport and taking her out on date and making a pass at her. Maybe I missed something but is dating against the law? Guys are not going to always going to women out on dates as just friends. Maybe he had some women that were in the friend zone because they put Prince in the friend zone most guys do not want to just be friends they just get thrown in that area. It is foolish to think he had no romantic dates for 10 years after his marriage and dates do not always mean sex.

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Reply #111 posted 02/21/17 6:45am

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Give it time. I am sure some if these women who have discussed their interactions with him will talk. La La Escarza, Andy, Judith, Kandance Springs and Judith Hill.
[Edited 2/20/17 18:58pm]

I kind of get the feeling you want them to talk. Or are hoping some will talk to validate your theories.

--I do not care one way or another. I have not purchase Devin's book and I had an opportunity to read some of Mayte book but I am not interested. I am a student of human nature I know what is going to happen.

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Reply #112 posted 02/21/17 7:07am

laurarichardson said:
rogifan said:
Aside from M1 I would agree. And like I said I'm sure some women want people to think Prince was after them. I wouldn't be surprised if they exaggerate to some extent. I swear I read somewhere that others have disputed some of the things Kandace Springs said.
Dr. Funk said Kandance should not have said what she said he did not dispute it. In addition, what is bad about Prince picking up at airport and taking her out on date and making a pass at her. Maybe I missed something but is dating against the law? Guys are not going to always going to women out on dates as just friends. Maybe he had some women that were in the friend zone because they put Prince in the friend zone most guys do not want to just be friends they just get thrown in that area. It is foolish to think he had no romantic dates for 10 years after his marriage and dates do not always mean sex.

Kandace's story evolved over time. She always said that he was a mentor and that she spent time at Paisley Park. She also mentioned the movies and him picking her up at the airport on her birthday and taking her to the movies. She also played her CD for him.

It was not until the GQ piece that she added the bedroom description. Yet, she maintains that she was only in his living quarters because P allowed her to wash and blow dry her hair because it got wet or something to that effect. I think, unless she wanted to suggest that she and Prince were intimate, she could have kept those details to herself. But, that's just my twocents .

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Reply #113 posted 02/21/17 7:22am

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

I didn't say I heard it from Funkenberry. And I never said he never had romance or sex after he divorced M2. Don't put words in people's mouths.

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Reply #114 posted 02/21/17 7:26am

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

I kind of get the feeling you want them to talk. Or are hoping some will talk to validate your theories.

I believe Ksndace said that Prince "tried" but she didn't want to go beyond a friendship. He was spiritually evolving and into giving - but he was also human. None of us truly know, but I believe he still wanted to be loved by a woman. That's part of spirituality sometimes, when you're ready.
He had a whole nother phase of life those last several years - I could feel that last night as I contemplated things. There's nothing wrong with it if he wanted to explore love with various people, to see if one was meant for him, or even just to appreciate different women for a time. As long as he was respectful and honest, and I believe he was.

As for those who speak about things, some are simply more open about their experiences. As for those who don't, I respect that, but let's be honest: it also can work to create a "mystery" and sell books, music, whatever.

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Reply #115 posted 02/21/17 7:34am

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
Aside from M1 I would agree. And like I said I'm sure some women want people to think Prince was after them. I wouldn't be surprised if they exaggerate to some extent. I swear I read somewhere that others have disputed some of the things Kandace Springs said.

Dr. Funk said Kandance should not have said what she said he did not dispute it. In addition, what is bad about Prince picking up at airport and taking her out on date and making a pass at her. Maybe I missed something but is dating against the law? Guys are not going to always going to women out on dates as just friends. Maybe he had some women that were in the friend zone because they put Prince in the friend zone most guys do not want to just be friends they just get thrown in that area. It is foolish to think he had no romantic dates for 10 years after his marriage and dates do not always mean sex.

Obviously she wanted people to think Prince was putting the moves on her. We'll never know for sure who's being truthful and who's embellishing. But either way I don't like it because that was something Prince never did. And if these women had class and respect for the man they wouldn't be blabbing either. And I'm not referring to people like Kim Berry or band members that have given interviews.

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Reply #116 posted 02/21/17 7:48am

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rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
Aside from M1 I would agree. And like I said I'm sure some women want people to think Prince was after them. I wouldn't be surprised if they exaggerate to some extent. I swear I read somewhere that others have disputed some of the things Kandace Springs said.

Dr. Funk said Kandance should not have said what she said he did not dispute it. In addition, what is bad about Prince picking up at airport and taking her out on date and making a pass at her. Maybe I missed something but is dating against the law? Guys are not going to always going to women out on dates as just friends. Maybe he had some women that were in the friend zone because they put Prince in the friend zone most guys do not want to just be friends they just get thrown in that area. It is foolish to think he had no romantic dates for 10 years after his marriage and dates do not always mean sex.

Now I don't know that about Kandace Springs. I don't know what her true motives were. Maybe she just wanted to be authentic and transparent. I sensed her as someone who simply wanted us to have a truthful picture of Prince, in all ways. I didn't see her as being particularly self-serving.
Others have expressed many things about Prince non-romantically that I thought were far more detrimental.

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Reply #117 posted 02/21/17 8:59am

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rogifan said:[quote]

FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
Aside from M1 I would agree. And like I said I'm sure some women want people to think Prince was after them. I wouldn't be surprised if they exaggerate to some extent. I swear I read somewhere that others have disputed some of the things Kandace Springs said.

Obviously she wanted people to think Prince was putting the moves on her. We'll never know for sure who's being truthful and who's embellishing. But either way I don't like it because that was something Prince never did. And if these women had class and respect for the man they wouldn't be blabbing either. And I'm not referring to people like Kim Berry or band members that have given interviews.

You don't like it and that's cool, I do like it and that is just as cool. These women don't have to be just like Prince to have class. I question your definition of respect also. But we don't all think alike and that is a good thing.

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Reply #118 posted 02/21/17 9:10am

rogifan said:
laurarichardson said:
Dr. Funk said Kandance should not have said what she said he did not dispute it. In addition, what is bad about Prince picking up at airport and taking her out on date and making a pass at her. Maybe I missed something but is dating against the law? Guys are not going to always going to women out on dates as just friends. Maybe he had some women that were in the friend zone because they put Prince in the friend zone most guys do not want to just be friends they just get thrown in that area. It is foolish to think he had no romantic dates for 10 years after his marriage and dates do not always mean sex.
I didn't say I heard it from Funkenberry. And I never said he never had romance or sex after he divorced M2. Don't put words in people's mouths.

I did not say you said it I am telling you were it came from. What is factual. You have implied that Prince was some monk who was celibate and could not have possibly be interested in these woman as more than a mentor.

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