Does anyone know why on Spotify The Revolution or NPG are not listed on the songs they played on? Purple Rain is just Prince not Prince and the Revolution. They also have God listed as the instrumental version when it is not that version. I know it is petty but I would like for the tags to be right.

Ingela said:

KaresB said:

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Sure.

LOL

How old are you? It's natural to lose your hearing. Especially what types of work and concerts going habits. When was the last time your hearing was checked? Unless you are a teen or young adult who has really protected your hearing, I bet it's not as good as you think. I've seen videos where snobs with expensive gear are easily fooled into buying expensive gear with gold plated connections only to see they can't tell the difference between a cheap set-up under prime controled conditions much less under real-world conditions.

Confirmation bias exposed for the fallacy it is.

fortuneandserendipity said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-s-music-racks-up-3-7-million-streams-in-one-day/413993023/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting that P racked up 1 million streams on Sunday and 3.7 million on Monday. Thus, "his recordings were streamed more in two days than in the entire prior year, according to Nielsen Entertainment."

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-s-music-racks-up-3-7-million-streams-in-one-day/413993023/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting that P racked up 1 million streams on Sunday and 3.7 million on Monday. Thus, "his recordings were streamed more in two days than in the entire prior year, according to Nielsen Entertainment."

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This is very sad indeed as this is killing music!

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As a result of streaming services, paid for digital downloads for 2016 are down by 20 per cent.

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If people don't buy music then there is no money for artists to earn a living and no money for companies to develop artists.

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darkroman said:

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-s-music-racks-up-3-7-million-streams-in-one-day/413993023/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting that P racked up 1 million streams on Sunday and 3.7 million on Monday. Thus, "his recordings were streamed more in two days than in the entire prior year, according to Nielsen Entertainment."

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This is very sad indeed as this is killing music!

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As a result of streaming services, paid for digital downloads for 2016 are down by 20 per cent.

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If people don't buy music then there is no money for artists to earn a living and no money for companies to develop artists.

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Agreed.

The streaming business model is a dead end, it's unsustainable and will be surprassed sooner than most people think.

Prince was absolutely right on this matter – he didn't like the idea of being forced to practically give away his work for peanuts on these platforms. Don't know the details of his Tidal deal but I'm sure he made an agreement that assured he's getting paid with real money.

[Edited 2/17/17 3:24am]

Ingela said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Confirmation bias exposed for the fallacy it is.

Confirmation bias a fallacy? I don't even think you evenunderstand what it means. [Edited 2/16/17 20:01pm]

Let me elaborate then, assuming you're not trolling. People who buy expensive 'audiophile' equipment, convinced that they're obtaining a better sound. Just to be clear: Amps, CD players, interconnects, speaker cables - unless designed really badly to the point of emitting faults - make next to no difference to the sound. And don't even get me started on the 'supposed' inferior quality of MP3s.

People like what they see, then they like what they hear. 'Confirmation bias' exposes sighted bias for the fallacy it is.

fortuneandserendipity said:

The fallacy is that people claim to hear differences - that aren't really there - because they've told themselves they're hearing better quality sound.

(it's an Astall & Kern player, so it's gotta be good)

Clearer now?

fortuneandserendipity said:

Ingela said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

The fallacy is that people claim to hear differences - that aren't really there - because they've told themselves they're hearing better quality sound.

confirmation bias

noun

1. the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.

(it's an Astall & Kern player, so it's gotta be good)

Clearer now?

You're describing conformation bias, but it's a description of this human tendency. The way you write it sounds like you're saying confirmation bias is a fallacy. But I get what you're trying to say. And I was never saying there were no decernable difference, just that most people have been listening to music on the radio and cassette, and a bar and a club under much worse circumstances and they complain about mp3's like they listen to music all day in a sound proof room under optimal circumstances. To me that's the real fallacy. I find it hilarious!

I was trying to be brief. What I meant to say, the behaviour behind confirmation bias is a fallacy (within context of audio perception).

MP3s at 128kbps (very low rate) are transparent/non-discernible from CD to almost all listeners. So yeah, it doesn't make sense same people then go clubbing or to gigs and don't even raise an eyebrow.

I remember P shrieking at the Manchester Academy couple of times but I blamed the acoustics

KaresB said:

rainbowchild said:

Over 1.5M Prince followers on Spotify, up from 300K a couple days ago!

This is how his music will live on and appeal to future generations.It's a good thing.

laurarichardson said:

KaresB said:

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Agreed.

The streaming business model is a dead end, it's unsustainable and will be surprassed sooner than most people think.

Prince was absolutely right on this matter – he didn't like the idea of being forced to practically give away his work for peanuts on these platforms. Don't know the details of his Tidal deal but I'm sure he made an agreement that assured he's getting paid with real money.

[Edited 2/17/17 3:24am]

According to Tidal lawsuit Prince got 3 million dollars and a higher rate these pinheads in the media will not tell the story of the pennies artist ate getting for streaming. I am certain old Lonnie got the same old Pennie for Prince's Music that everyone else is getting. People don't buy when they can rent. Less money means zero artist development meaning more crappy artist and music. Prince was spot on with what he was doing😀

We live in new times, and have to accept that "mafia" record labels can't bully around artists like they've done in the past. We get more crap today. But we also get more music, and a bunch of it is actually very good if you have the patience to actually look for it. We had ALOT of crap back in the days too. Even the so called "developed ones". Not everyone are making music solely for the purpose of earning a bunch of cash. Recording equipment today is million times cheaper. Everyone can be an "artist" now. They just gotta develop their talents in other ways.

KaresB said:

rogifan said:

Prince On-Demand Streams Surge By Over 6,300% In First Two Days

Emily Blake, Forbes, February 16, 2017

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sit...6eac93bf6d

I've updated the spreadsheet of stream counts.

Here are the 100 most streamed Prince songs over roughly the first week of availability in Spotify:

[1] ''Purple Rain'': 2096568
[2] ''Kiss'': 1536944
[3] ''Let's Go Crazy'': 1527628
[4] ''When Doves Cry'': 1458801
[5] ''Little Red Corvette'': 1072361
[6] ''1999'': 884754
[7] ''Raspberry Beret'': 873972
[8] ''I Would Die 4 U'': 861705
[9] ''I Wanna Be Your Lover'': 803061
[10] ''Sign o' the Times'': 558758
[11] ''Delirious'': 556502
[12] ''Pop Life'': 534188
[13] ''Diamonds and Pearls'': 412436
[14] ''Controversy'': 397554
[15] ''Darling Nikki'': 391517
[16] ''She's Always in My Hair'': 387617
[17] ''Nothing Compares 2 U'': 371503
[18] ''Cream'': 356772
[19] ''Soft and Wet'': 344319
[20] ''Erotic City'': 335013
[21] ''Uptown'': 333155
[22] ''The Beautiful Ones'': 329376
[23] ''U Got the Look'': 301819
[24] ''Dirty Mind'': 293993
[25] ''Take Me With U'': 278480
[26] ''Gett Off'': 272583
[27] ''Thieves in the Temple'': 263334
[28] ''Baby I'm a Star'': 256140
[29] ''Sexy MF'': 246333
[30] ''Alphabet St.'': 241325
[31] ''I Feel for You'': 232552
[32] ''7'': 225017
[33] ''Batdance'': 223807
[34] ''Stare'': 223726
[35] ''Mountains'': 221370
[36] ''If I Was Your Girlfriend'': 220662
[37] ''17 Days'': 219871
[38] ''I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man'': 207775
[39] ''When You Were Mine'': 200110
[40] ''My Name is Prince'': 192376
[41] ''Adore'': 188269
[42] ''Lady Cab Driver'': 180807
[43] ''So Blue'': 180791
[44] ''Partyman'': 178669
[45] ''Anotherloverholenyohead'': 172424
[46] ''Money Don't Matter 2 Night'': 164624
[47] ''Housequake'': 161775
[48] ''Do Me, Baby'': 158935
[49] ''Hot Thing'': 155073
[50] ''Sometimes It Snows in April'': 145288
[51] ''Breakfast Can Wait'': 141718
[52] ''The Ballad of Dorothy Parker'': 138943
[53] ''Girls & Boys'': 138214
[54] ''Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)'': 133370
[55] ''International Lover'': 128057
[56] ''Come'': 127516
[57] ''This Could Be Us'': 124339
[58] ''Under the Cherry Moon'': 122694
[59] ''Computer Blue'': 118708
[60] ''How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore'': 118444
[61] ''Insatiable'': 116339
[62] ''Scandalous'': 116316
[63] ''America'': 115463
[64] ''Space'': 107553
[65] ''The Morning Papers'': 105924
[66] ''Damn U'': 103325
[67] ''Graffiti Bridge'': 95916
[68] ''Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad'': 94499
[69] ''Venus de Milo'': 90559
[70] ''Head'': 63365
[71] ''Paisley Park'': 54488
[72] ''Let's Work'': 51118
[73] ''Funknroll'': 50670
[74] ''Art Offical Cage'': 50223
[75] ''Clouds'': 49163
[76] ''Starfish and Coffee'': 43887
[77] ''Sexy Dancer'': 43450
[78] ''Let's Pretend We're Married'': 41941
[79] ''Breakdown'': 41886
[80] ''D.M.S.R.'': 41252
[81] ''U Know'': 35731
[82] ''The Gold Standard'': 35656
[83] ''Play in the Sunshine'': 32468
[84] ''It's Gonna Be Lonely'': 31563
[85] ''Bambi'': 30694
[86] ''When We're Dancing Close and Slow'': 30030
[87] ''Automatic'': 29204
[88] ''Slow Love'': 28517
[89] ''It'': 28413
[90] ''Way Back Home'': 28014
[91] ''Do It All Night'': 27997
[92] ''What It Feels Like'': 27625
[93] ''The Cross'': 26505
[94] ''Sexuality'': 26452
[95] ''Time'': 26232
[96] ''Strange Relationship'': 26217
[97] ''Affirmation I & II'': 25185
[98] ''Peach'': 25080
[99] ''Forever in My Life'': 24757
[100] ''Around the World in a Day'': 24452

Moonbeam said:

Ingela said:

Yes services like Spotify need to pay artists more, but in general they end doing Ok for big labels and artists with massive critically aclaimed albums.

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And where do you think that extra money would come from that they should pay to artists?

NONE of the streaming services are profitable at the moment. NONE of them has made a penny yet – they are all counting their losses.

That's why I'm saying that the streaming model is totally unsustainable. It will be surpassed soon.

KaresB said:

thePJsupreme said:

thePJsupreme said:

with the risk of sounding incredibly stupid:

I played FUNKNROLL from spotify, through my Hifi installation yesterday, expecting the deep zooming bass...... song started.. awaiting bass.... and ..... it wasn't there !!

First thought: Bass Unit is damaged, blown up or disconnected, but all of a sudden later in the song it appeared.. played in on studio headphones as well, same result.. is it an alternate mix or ..?

oh and I wasn't talking about the PlectrumElectrum version, but the AOA version

[Edited 2/13/17 4:44am]

Due to the overwhelming amount of reponse on my (pretty stupid, I realise now) question

I've played the "previous version" from Tidal on the Stereo to.

And ..?

Same as Spotify.

Apparently the zooming low base can only be heard prominently when its's played in my car HiFi system.

Now I'm wondering what this means for my current HiFi configuration.

(where to put an active sub in my living..)

laurarichardson said:

KaresB said:

Ingela said:

Yes services like Spotify need to pay artists more, but in general they end doing Ok for big labels and artists with massive critically aclaimed albums.

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And where do you think that extra money would come from that they should pay to artists?

NONE of the streaming services are profitable at the moment. NONE of them has made a penny yet – they are all counting their losses.

That's why I'm saying that the streaming model is totally unsustainable. It will be surpassed soon.

--Surpassed or consolidated into one or two companies. I als expect more content other than music. It would be funny as hell if Tidal was one of the companies that hangs around

Ok, so I know this probably an obvious thing, but I can't figure it out...The music that I already have on my hard drive in iTues can't be added to my Spotify account unless Spotify already has it on their site?

I find it interesting that for the possibly first time ever the most played version of 1999 is the album version, that's the one "the kids" and casual listeners are streaming.

Ingela said:

laurarichardson said:

--Surpassed or consolidated into one or two companies. I als expect more content other than music. It would be funny as hell if Tidal was one of the companies that hangs around

Look even Apple gave up on charging 99 cents because THE COMSUMER was not willing to pay. The consumer is responsible for album sales. And this model has bee the only one sustainable. It's either stream your music or hide it away and make nothing.

Lastly, you speak as if you have all the numbers in front of you as to sustainability.
Like I said big artists with acclaimed music catalogs like Prince will be fine. Far far better than not streaming at all. The Beatles, Prince, Led Zeppelin, they're all fine.

In the end, I am with all of you in saying artists need a higher rate of pay. No question. But it's up to the consumer to do so.
[Edited 2/20/17 16:22pm]

laurarichardson said:

sexton said:

rogifan said:

My guess is there will be a big ad campaign around this. Might get more people interested.

The ad campaign has already begun:


Purple Spotify Billboards Suggest That Prince's Music Will Be Available on Major Streaming Service by Grammy Night http://www.billboard.com/...mmy-night

The Prince Spotify ads have been updated: http://www.brooklynvegan....y-station/

KaresB said: