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Reply #90 posted 01/25/17 6:27am

steakfinger

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Reply #91 posted 01/25/17 6:35am

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Scarfo said:

jstar69 said:

Scarfo said: Keen to hear these versions too but unfortunately Clare Fischer wont be de involved - he sadly passed in 2012

Oh damn, I didn't know of his passing. sad Thank you for informing me.

Even if he was alive, how or why in the world should he be involved in a record he had nothing to do with in the first place?

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Reply #92 posted 01/25/17 6:55am

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Scarfo said:

Oh...finally some official news on the PR Remaster! Thank Goodness! I'll rather they take their time an put out an amazing product, than put out some bullshit. I can't wait to listen to the extended "Hallways" version of Computer Blue then Darling Nikki in crystal clear new remastered HQ sound! I'm also hoping Clair Fisher is also involved with the remaster. Most of Prince's best work had her involvement in it!



Not only has Clare Fischer (not Clair Fisher) passed away, but Clare was male, not female, and didn't start working with Prince until after any and all tracks recorded for Purple Rain were long-past put to bed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.or...re_Fischer
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Reply #93 posted 01/25/17 8:32am

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Ya'll "geniuses" do realize I said I didn't know about HIS passing. Do some ya'll ever tire of being jerks? Seriously, many of ya'll are the very reason many fans no longer come here anymore. Grow up! *leaves*

[Edited 1/25/17 8:53am]

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Reply #94 posted 01/25/17 10:59am

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Scarfo said:

Ya'll "geniuses" do realize I said I didn't know about HIS passing. Do some ya'll ever tire of being jerks? Seriously, many of ya'll are the very reason many fans no longer come here anymore. Grow up! *leaves*

[Edited 1/25/17 8:53am]

Childish reaction to being corrected on basic facts - Clare Fischer was a man who passed away four and half years ago, "Claire Fisher" from your first post isn't anyone associated with Prince, and Clare Fischer didn't have anything to do with the Purple Rain soundtrack and will not be a part of the reissue. No one claimed to be a genius to say as much.

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Reply #95 posted 01/25/17 3:37pm

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Doozer said:

Scarfo said:

Ya'll "geniuses" do realize I said I didn't know about HIS passing. Do some ya'll ever tire of being jerks? Seriously, many of ya'll are the very reason many fans no longer come here anymore. Grow up! *leaves*

[Edited 1/25/17 8:53am]

Childish reaction to being corrected on basic facts - Clare Fischer was a man who passed away four and half years ago, "Claire Fisher" from your first post isn't anyone associated with Prince, and Clare Fischer didn't have anything to do with the Purple Rain soundtrack and will not be a part of the reissue. No one claimed to be a genius to say as much.

I agree with Doozer. Scarfo you made not one not two not three but FOUR factual errors in your statement, which is, forgive me, somewhat of an accomplishment and made the whole statement utterly absurd: ignoring CF's passing is one thing, getting the name AND gender wrong is already a little more disturbing, but what I found the most disturbing is wanting him to be associated with an album he had nothing to do with in the first place, it's as if saying "I hope Rhonda Smith will be involved in the Parade remaster", totally absurd. Either it implies you believed a symphonic orchestra can be heard on PR, or that you assumed orchestral arrangements should retroactively be added to it: both beliefs would be equally odd to say the least.

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I find this "dictatorship of the dumb" phenomenon on the internet pretty disturbing, not to say you are dumb yourself as a person, I am talking of a social phenomenon: nowadays when someone comes up with erronous facts or judgement on the internet, or writes in poor language or makes spelling mistakes by the dozen, whomever tries and correct them is immediately attacked and flamed as being some sort of a fascist. If one doesn't wish to face the judgement of one's peers, one should restrain from making public statements on the internet, but if you do you must accept that freedom of speech is a two ways street and that people are legitimate in reacting to your posts. I find Donald Trump is the perfect illustration of this modern moral disease: the guy will post irresponsibly on Twitter then react violently to anyone reacting negatively to his nonsense. If anyone needs to grow up, it's those people who, like you just did, have immature, 3 y.o.-like emotional responses to refusal and criticism.

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So in the end the appropriate response to our replies wasn't "Do some ya'll ever tire of being jerks?" but "Ooops, sorry guys, I got it all wrong, my bad. I stand corrected". There is no shame is admitting one is wrong when one is.

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Reply #96 posted 01/25/17 3:58pm

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Scarfo said:

Oh...finally some official news on the PR Remaster! Thank Goodness! I'll rather they take their time an put out an amazing product, than put out some bullshit. I can't wait to listen to the extended "Hallways" version of Computer Blue then Darling Nikki in crystal clear new remastered HQ sound! I'm also hoping Clair Fisher is also involved with the remaster. Most of Prince's best work had her involvement in it!

Orchestra & String arrangements during the Purple Rain (and ATWIAD) era albums are by Lisa Coleman, David Coleman, Suzie Katayama and Novi Novog(all 4 were also in the Raspberry Beret video)

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Reply #97 posted 01/25/17 4:04pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Scarfo said:

Oh...finally some official news on the PR Remaster! Thank Goodness! I'll rather they take their time an put out an amazing product, than put out some bullshit. I can't wait to listen to the extended "Hallways" version of Computer Blue then Darling Nikki in crystal clear new remastered HQ sound! I'm also hoping Clair Fisher is also involved with the remaster. Most of Prince's best work had her involvement in it!

Orchestra & String arrangements during the Purple Rain (and ATWIAD) era albums are by Lisa Coleman, David Coleman, Suzie Katayama and Novi Novog(all 4 were also in the Raspberry Beret video)

You shouldn't have done that: u gonna get called names, too!

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Reply #98 posted 01/25/17 5:25pm

Scarfo

This is stupid! Where in my comment did I EVER say Clare Fisher had ANYTHING to do with Purple Rain? I NEVER said it he did! I SAID I wanted him to be apart of the remaster because he was apart of prince's best works during the 80's! That's it! (PROOF: I reposted my entire comments below)!So to correct me on this is STUPID! secondly, my final comment to another org poster, I plainly said, I didn't know HIS (Clare Fisher's) passing! So it was stupid to have folks continuiously attempt to correct me of him being an male, when I ALREADY acknowldeged him of being an male! This is exactly what I'm talking about stupid arguments over stupid things! And to see an MOD joining in on it speaks volumes on why this fan page is currently nothing but an bitch-fest! And we see the same ones picking silly arguments with anyone who comments or starts an thread here. Which is why longtime fans of this page no longer comes here, because of this childish foolishness! This shall serve as my FINAL comment on this subject!

Goodbye!

Scarfo said:

jstar69 said:

Scarfo said: Keen to hear these versions too but unfortunately Clare Fischer wont be de involved - he sadly passed in 2012

Oh damn, I didn't know of his passing. sad Thank you for informing me.

[Edited 1/25/17 17:57pm]

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Reply #99 posted 01/25/17 6:01pm

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Scarfo said:

This is stupid! Where in my comment did I EVER say Clare Fisher had ANYTHING to do with Purple Rain? I NEVER said it he did! I SAID I wanted him to be apart of the remaster because he was apart of prince's best works during the 80's! That's it! (PROOF: I reposted my entire comments below)!So to correct me on this is STUPID! secondly, my final comment to another org poster, I plainly said, I didn't know HIS (Clare Fisher's) passing! So it was stupid to have folks continuiously attempt to correct me of him being an male, when I ALREADY acknowldeged him of being an male! This is exactly what I'm talking about stupid arguments over stupid things! And to see an MOD joining in on it speaks volumes on why this fan page is currently nothing but an bitch-fest! And we see the same ones picking silly arguments with anyone who comments or starts an thread here. Which is why longtime fans of this page no longer comes here, because of this childish foolishness! This shall serve as my FINAL comment on this subject!

Goodbye!

Scarfo said:

Oh damn, I didn't know of his passing. sad Thank you for informing me.

[Edited 1/25/17 17:57pm]

dude, take your L and keep it moving. You're defensive as a muther.

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[Edited 1/25/17 18:14pm]

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Reply #100 posted 01/25/17 6:11pm

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Reply #101 posted 01/25/17 6:18pm

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Scarfo said:

This is stupid! Where in my comment did I EVER say Clare Fisher had ANYTHING to do with Purple Rain? I NEVER said it he did! I SAID I wanted him to be apart of the remaster because he was apart of prince's best works during the 80's! That's it! (PROOF: I reposted my entire comments below)!So to correct me on this is STUPID! secondly, my final comment to another org poster, I plainly said, I didn't know HIS (Clare Fisher's) passing! So it was stupid to have folks continuiously attempt to correct me of him being an male, when I ALREADY acknowldeged him of being an male! This is exactly what I'm talking about stupid arguments over stupid things! And to see an MOD joining in on it speaks volumes on why this fan page is currently nothing but an bitch-fest! And we see the same ones picking silly arguments with anyone who comments or starts an thread here. Which is why longtime fans of this page no longer comes here, because of this childish foolishness! This shall serve as my FINAL comment on this subject!

Goodbye!

Scarfo said:

Oh damn, I didn't know of his passing. sad Thank you for informing me.

[Edited 1/25/17 17:57pm]

Well I'm sorry I've offended u like that. However I still fail to see why it would have been relevant to involve CF in the remaster of a record he had nothing to do with.

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Reply #102 posted 01/25/17 6:20pm

pdiddy2011

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I'm certainly not looking for perfect, just tolerable. And it's not all the recordings so it throws a lot of the compilations off. I just find it odd that a monster label like WB wouldn't make sure that the sound quality would be top notch. At the end of the day, what really upsets me is that it really hurts P's chances of breaking into mainstream with vault tracks in an age where a certain sound quality is taken for granted by the average listener. I'll still enjoy them because he got a pass with me about 2 decades ago.

I have never been concerned with Ps chances of breaking into mainstream -- largely because he didn't seem to care either -- but for example, it sure is irritating listening to MJ on a CD sounding like he is singing directly to you, directly in your ear, while many of Ps CDs sound like you're trying to listen to him while wearing earplugs!

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Reply #103 posted 01/25/17 6:29pm

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databank said:

Scarfo said:

Oh damn, I didn't know of his passing. sad Thank you for informing me.

Even if he was alive, how or why in the world should he be involved in a record he had nothing to do with in the first place?

I laughed when I saw that. I think he was thinking of Princess Leia!

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Reply #104 posted 01/25/17 6:34pm

pdiddy2011

databank said:

Doozer said:

Childish reaction to being corrected on basic facts - Clare Fischer was a man who passed away four and half years ago, "Claire Fisher" from your first post isn't anyone associated with Prince, and Clare Fischer didn't have anything to do with the Purple Rain soundtrack and will not be a part of the reissue. No one claimed to be a genius to say as much.

I agree with Doozer. Scarfo you made not one not two not three but FOUR factual errors in your statement, which is, forgive me, somewhat of an accomplishment and made the whole statement utterly absurd: ignoring CF's passing is one thing, getting the name AND gender wrong is already a little more disturbing, but what I found the most disturbing is wanting him to be associated with an album he had nothing to do with in the first place, it's as if saying "I hope Rhonda Smith will be involved in the Parade remaster", totally absurd. Either it implies you believed a symphonic orchestra can be heard on PR, or that you assumed orchestral arrangements should retroactively be added to it: both beliefs would be equally odd to say the least.

.

I find this "dictatorship of the dumb" phenomenon on the internet pretty disturbing, not to say you are dumb yourself as a person, I am talking of a social phenomenon: nowadays when someone comes up with erronous facts or judgement on the internet, or writes in poor language or makes spelling mistakes by the dozen, whomever tries and correct them is immediately attacked and flamed as being some sort of a fascist. If one doesn't wish to face the judgement of one's peers, one should restrain from making public statements on the internet, but if you do you must accept that freedom of speech is a two ways street and that people are legitimate in reacting to your posts. I find Donald Trump is the perfect illustration of this modern moral disease: the guy will post irresponsibly on Twitter then react violently to anyone reacting negatively to his nonsense. If anyone needs to grow up, it's those people who, like you just did, have immature, 3 y.o.-like emotional responses to refusal and criticism.

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So in the end the appropriate response to our replies wasn't "Do some ya'll ever tire of being jerks?" but "Ooops, sorry guys, I got it all wrong, my bad. I stand corrected". There is no shame is admitting one is wrong when one is.

Scarfo's statement wasn't his/her finest hour, but that was brutal.

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Reply #105 posted 01/25/17 6:41pm

pdiddy2011

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Scarfo said:

This is stupid! Where in my comment did I EVER say Clare Fisher had ANYTHING to do with Purple Rain? I NEVER said it he did! I SAID I wanted him to be apart of the remaster because he was apart of prince's best works during the 80's! That's it! (PROOF: I reposted my entire comments below)!So to correct me on this is STUPID! secondly, my final comment to another org poster, I plainly said, I didn't know HIS (Clare Fisher's) passing! So it was stupid to have folks continuiously attempt to correct me of him being an male, when I ALREADY acknowldeged him of being an male! This is exactly what I'm talking about stupid arguments over stupid things! And to see an MOD joining in on it speaks volumes on why this fan page is currently nothing but an bitch-fest! And we see the same ones picking silly arguments with anyone who comments or starts an thread here. Which is why longtime fans of this page no longer comes here, because of this childish foolishness! This shall serve as my FINAL comment on this subject!

Goodbye!

[Edited 1/25/17 17:57pm]

dude, take your L and keep it moving. You're defensive as a muther.

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[Edited 1/25/17 18:14pm]

lol I am going to sleep well tonight! All this laughing is tiring me out! I'm trying to figure out why Scarfo is PRETENDING he never called Clare Fisher a SHE. We all saw it! This would have never escalated if Scarfo just said oops, "I made a mistake"! lol

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Reply #106 posted 01/25/17 7:03pm

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latest article says --- a FULL CD of unreleased tracks as bonus

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Reply #107 posted 01/25/17 7:24pm

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That would totally throw off the period of Purple Rain.
Why not just keep the professional musicians that actually worked on the album.
Their individual sounds are unique to Purple Rain. Listen to Novi Novog playing on Olivers House. Clare F could not replace that.

Scarfo said:

This is stupid! Where in my comment did I EVER say Clare Fisher had ANYTHING to do with Purple Rain? I NEVER said it he did! I SAID I wanted him to be apart of the remaster because he was apart of prince's best works during the 80's! That's it! (PROOF: I reposted my entire comments below)!So to correct me on this is STUPID! secondly, my final comment to another org poster, I plainly said, I didn't know HIS (Clare Fisher's) passing! So it was stupid to have folks continuiously attempt to correct me of him being an male, when I ALREADY acknowldeged him of being an male! This is exactly what I'm talking about stupid arguments over stupid things! And to see an MOD joining in on it speaks volumes on why this fan page is currently nothing but an bitch-fest! And we see the same ones picking silly arguments with anyone who comments or starts an thread here. Which is why longtime fans of this page no longer comes here, because of this childish foolishness! This shall serve as my FINAL comment on this subject!

Goodbye!

Scarfo said:

Oh damn, I didn't know of his passing. sad Thank you for informing me.

[Edited 1/25/17 17:57pm]

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Reply #108 posted 01/26/17 1:14am

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luvsexy4all said:

latest article says --- a FULL CD of unreleased tracks as bonus

Nice!

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Reply #109 posted 01/26/17 3:15am

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luvsexy4all said:

latest article says --- a FULL CD of unreleased tracks as bonus

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Reply #110 posted 01/26/17 3:57am

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luvsexy4all said:

latest article says --- a FULL CD of unreleased tracks as bonus

We shall see I want to hope this was all settled before Prince's passed so Londell did not have a chance to fuck this up.

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Reply #111 posted 01/26/17 5:25am

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databank said:

Giovanni777 said:

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True.

nod

There was a time when we we proud to be rebels, when we fancied Prince having one foot in the mainstream only because he had another in the underground, when we were proud that his music was too sophisticated for the masses but not for us because we were sophisticated.

Then one day everyone on the org began to wish for Prince to become Britney Spears.

Sad.

Errrr... not me. I was always proud to think of him as an outsider boxed

I really don´t care if the masses know him or if he plays on the radio. Nobody cares or listen to the radio for at least 15 years or more...

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Reply #112 posted 01/26/17 5:49am

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Telecaster5 said:

databank said:

nod

There was a time when we we proud to be rebels, when we fancied Prince having one foot in the mainstream only because he had another in the underground, when we were proud that his music was too sophisticated for the masses but not for us because we were sophisticated.

Then one day everyone on the org began to wish for Prince to become Britney Spears.

Sad.

Errrr... not me. I was always proud to think of him as an outsider boxed

I really don´t care if the masses know him or if he plays on the radio. Nobody cares or listen to the radio for at least 15 years or more...

I liked how he played the system, politically speaking I found that an interesting approach: do what u want, be controversial, be arty-farty, and yet manage to make millions, be on a major and reach mainstream audiences. Many grunge, punk or hardcore rap artists signed played it much safer than Prince career-wise, despite apparently being more "rebellious". Prince had a way of showing us that there are many ways of being a rebel.

In those days though the gap between underground and mainstream wasn't as huge as today: many "true" artists managed to be stars at the same time. Today most of the big stars are just products and very few have a true artistic vision.

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Reply #113 posted 01/26/17 6:50am

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Scarfo said:

This is stupid! Where in my comment did I EVER say Clare Fisher had ANYTHING to do with Purple Rain? I NEVER said it he did! I SAID I wanted him to be apart of the remaster because he was apart of prince's best works during the 80's! That's it! (PROOF: I reposted my entire comments below)!So to correct me on this is STUPID! secondly, my final comment to another org poster, I plainly said, I didn't know HIS (Clare Fisher's) passing! So it was stupid to have folks continuiously attempt to correct me of him being an male, when I ALREADY acknowldeged him of being an male! This is exactly what I'm talking about stupid arguments over stupid things! And to see an MOD joining in on it speaks volumes on why this fan page is currently nothing but an bitch-fest! And we see the same ones picking silly arguments with anyone who comments or starts an thread here. Which is why longtime fans of this page no longer comes here, because of this childish foolishness! This shall serve as my FINAL comment on this subject!



Goodbye!




Scarfo said:




jstar69 said:


Scarfo said: Keen to hear these versions too but unfortunately Clare Fischer wont be de involved - he sadly passed in 2012

Oh damn, I didn't know of his passing. sad Thank you for informing me.




[Edited 1/25/17 17:57pm]




Your original post implied that CF was involved - so I apologize for making the assumption and not understanding that what you meant was you hoped CF would add contributions to the remastered set. But like others have said, it would be the same as hoping Michael Bland plays drums on When Doves Cry.

Your reaction to being corrected is still childish and plays right into your own complaints about behavior on the org. No need to lash out, bold things, scream in all caps, sarcastically refer to those correcting you as "geniuses". If the org isn't here to maintain facts about Prince and associated artists through discussion, what's the point?
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Reply #114 posted 01/26/17 1:54pm

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Perhaps they release it the same month he passed in or wait to the month it was originally released?

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #115 posted 01/28/17 10:12am

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databank said:

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I find this "dictatorship of the dumb" phenomenon on the internet pretty disturbing, not to say you are dumb yourself as a person, I am talking of a social phenomenon: nowadays when someone comes up with erronous facts or judgement on the internet, or writes in poor language or makes spelling mistakes by the dozen, whomever tries and correct them is immediately attacked and flamed as being some sort of a fascist.

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This has been par for the course for famz for more than two decades.

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Reply #116 posted 01/28/17 10:29am

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luvsexy4all said:

latest article says --- a FULL CD of unreleased tracks as bonus

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THIS IS NOT NEWS. Sheesh, this has been announced months ago. You'd think Prince fans would pay attention when such news is announced but nooooooo.

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Reply #117 posted 01/28/17 10:31am

luvsexy4all

BartVanHemelen said:

luvsexy4all said:

latest article says --- a FULL CD of unreleased tracks as bonus

.

THIS IS NOT NEWS. Sheesh, this has been announced months ago. You'd think Prince fans would pay attention when such news is announced but nooooooo.

back then it didnt state a FULL cd of unreleased recodings

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Reply #118 posted 01/28/17 10:37am

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laurarichardson said:

jtfolden said:



...why not, exactly? His output belongs at WB over anywhere else, imo. I know some fans have a stick up their butts about WB but Prince was the problem in that situation most of the time.

No he was not. You should read George Clinton's autobiograpy he has some interesting things to say about WB and they way Prince was treated.

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Obviously he's a very objective source. I mean, it's not like Prince paid his tax bill, right? Oh wait...

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In the end he was right about a lot of things and I would not say that WB is setting the world on fire as a record company right now.

Prince had a lable in place.

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Pur-lease. Dude was selling CDs via shady-as-fuck fan-run shopping sites. The only reason his last couple of CDs got a major label release was because Jay-Z wanted to do him a favor and was hoping to get more exclusives to get Tidal to be in the spotlight (and that way he could attract a rich investor to spend more money on his vanity project).

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No reason the estate cannot find a company to partner with to put out music it does not have to be WB either. They has their time with Prince and blew it. Time to move on. They also did a horrible job marketing Prince Forever and AOA.

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Again: no sane company is going to be interested in the vault unless there's clarity about the WBR-era music. There is no money on saturating the market with the same third-rate crap nobody cared about in the past 20 years; the real money is in expanded and deluxe box set releases of Prince's heyday. WBR had an ongoing deal at the time of Prince's death -- and no, his death did not invlidate such a deal.

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Reply #119 posted 01/28/17 11:38am

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CROM

[Edited 1/25/17 6:28am]

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