independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Mon 16th Oct 2017 3:00pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Virtually all of Prince's music gone from Tidal
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 3 123>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 01/14/17 3:07am

Tokyo

Virtually all of Prince's music gone from Tidal

Checked this morning...

Bit of a bummer as this was the main reason I signed up.

T
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 01/14/17 3:17am

antonb

I think its kind of sad, what made tidal so bad? Prince was happy with the set up. No way would he have let them have all those albums if he wasnt.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 01/14/17 4:10am

Tokyo

Agree with you, I liked this service...and the fact that he was sharing music, old and new on the site.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 01/14/17 5:20am

gandorb

Do you know when it was taken off the service. I imagine it is related to the legal dispute between Tidal and estate that was publicized a few days ago, and the estate's desire to have his music on the more subscrbed to services.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 01/14/17 5:26am

leecaldon

I've still got what's been up the last few weeks. What do you have left?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 01/14/17 6:09am

brassneck

avatar

Hmm. I still have access to a lot of Prince on Tidal.

Here are the albums that have been removed from mine:

Crystal Ball

Emancipation

Musicology

3121

One Night Alone

One Night Alone...Live

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 01/14/17 7:03am

djThunderfunk

avatar

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.



I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 01/14/17 7:16am

Gohi

Nobody uses Tidal.

I'm excited for people to discover Prince on Spotify.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 01/14/17 7:33am

leecaldon

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.



I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool

That's not the point of this thread though. It's relevant in today's market where his music is available to stream, and the removal of albums also throws up interesting questions as to what is going on behind the scenes.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 01/14/17 7:33am

leecaldon

brassneck said:

Hmm. I still have access to a lot of Prince on Tidal.

Here are the albums that have been removed from mine:

Crystal Ball

Emancipation

Musicology

3121

One Night Alone

One Night Alone...Live

I find it strange that The Truth would be on there and not Crystal Ball.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 01/14/17 7:39am

brassneck

avatar

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.



I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool

.

It's not a matter of trust or collection building for most people. That's a wrongheaded, anachronistic attitude. It's a matter of convenience. Also, newer more casual fans don't instantly have "everything," so it's a bummer for them when the streaming access disappears.

.

You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007? I have everything uploaded to Google Music for streaming access from any device at my discretion, which is free. I also have Tidal (because I get the premium version for $5 a month as a member of Jack White's Vault). Tidal is just easier to access Prince for now. But I always have a backup plan.


  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 01/14/17 7:46am

djThunderfunk

avatar

leecaldon said:

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.



I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool

That's not the point of this thread though. It's relevant in today's market where his music is available to stream, and the removal of albums also throws up interesting questions as to what is going on behind the scenes.


Fair enough. It IS indeed relevant. However there are always some in these threads that depend entirely on Tidal for their Prince fix, and it is not unusual for them to fuss over not having access to certain music anymore. To them I will continue to argue: never trust a streaming service. If you want to use one, great, just don't depend on them as your only source for Prince music.

As for behind the scenes stuff about the estate & Tidal, there's already a thread for that.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 01/14/17 7:51am

djThunderfunk

avatar

brassneck said:

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.



I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool

.

It's not a matter of trust or collection building for most people. That's a wrongheaded, anachronistic attitude. It's a matter of convenience. Also, newer more casual fans don't instantly have "everything," so it's a bummer for them when the streaming access disappears.

.

You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007? I have everything uploaded to Google Music for streaming access from any device at my discretion, which is free. I also have Tidal (because I get the premium version for $5 a month as a member of Jack White's Vault). Tidal is just easier to access Prince for now. But I always have a backup plan.



See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 01/14/17 7:51am

mikeyaddict

avatar

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.


Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.




I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool



Couldn't agree more. Who the fuck would want to stream things when you can own it and it's yours? Streaming is just a ploy to keep you paying for something you could've bought!
Comin str8 outta Preston...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 01/14/17 7:59am

brassneck

avatar

djThunderfunk said:

brassneck said:

.

It's not a matter of trust or collection building for most people. That's a wrongheaded, anachronistic attitude. It's a matter of convenience. Also, newer more casual fans don't instantly have "everything," so it's a bummer for them when the streaming access disappears.

.

You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007? I have everything uploaded to Google Music for streaming access from any device at my discretion, which is free. I also have Tidal (because I get the premium version for $5 a month as a member of Jack White's Vault). Tidal is just easier to access Prince for now. But I always have a backup plan.



See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

.

It's not "like renting" it is IS renting. But it's also the future. Owning things is the attitude of the olds. You can have a "get off my lawn" attitude, but the kids do not care about ownership. At the end of the day, lack of streaming access hurts Prince.

.

I have obsessive, expansive Prince collections on cassette, vinyl, and cd, but I am not normal, nor am I the future.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 01/14/17 8:06am

Germanegro

djThunderfunk said:

brassneck said:

.

It's not a matter of trust or collection building for most people. That's a wrongheaded, anachronistic attitude. It's a matter of convenience. Also, newer more casual fans don't instantly have "everything," so it's a bummer for them when the streaming access disappears.

.

You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007? I have everything uploaded to Google Music for streaming access from any device at my discretion, which is free. I also have Tidal (because I get the premium version for $5 a month as a member of Jack White's Vault). Tidal is just easier to access Prince for now. But I always have a backup plan.



See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

Yes, djThunderfunk. You forgot to add that you're saving yourself from the constant payment of streaming fees that more than overtake the cost of a one-time item purchase over time. You really do pay for that convenience of having everything at your fingertips all the time (that you are in reach of a wifi signal). And you may REALLY need your Prince tunes when you are out of reach of wifi! lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 01/14/17 8:12am

Germanegro

I hope that Tidal puts the Prince music that they're licensed to stream back on ASAP.

>

I wonder whether the takedowns are a result of legal contestations, however.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 01/14/17 8:18am

SoulAlive

djThunderfunk said:

brassneck said:

.

You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007?


See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.


I still have my iPod Classic and yes, I still use it smile It has my entire music collection on it.I'm happy,lol.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 01/14/17 8:22am

TKO

avatar

What's new? TIDAL is the worst streaming service out there.

Prince made a huge mistake with them. Jay Z only cares about $ and it was a matter of time before Prince left Tidal too.

Anyways, i don't use streaming, only Youtube for videos, i buy physical copies (because sometimes it's even cheaper than digital ones) and rip them. So i get 2 for the price of 1.

And my music is always available.

Sorry for the Tidal lovers, but it will go nowhere. It has like 1m listeners while Spotify has 100m.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 01/14/17 8:37am

rogifan

avatar

Good this likely means his music is coming to iTunes, Apple Music and Spotify.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 01/14/17 8:42am

Germanegro

brassneck said:

djThunderfunk said:


See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

.

It's not "like renting" it is IS renting. But it's also the future. Owning things is the attitude of the olds. You can have a "get off my lawn" attitude, but the kids do not care about ownership. At the end of the day, lack of streaming access hurts Prince.

.

I have obsessive, expansive Prince collections on cassette, vinyl, and cd, but I am not normal, nor am I the future.

So sad--and of course the weakend state of our economy has given those with less achievement as their standard a reason to adopt such a stance. It's artificial, though, I think. Unfortunately, this state of mind feeds the oligarchic tendancies of our current state-of-being. Kinda like saying, "I like my poverty and servitude!"

>

I guess I need to shaddup on that yap, though, because I'm not trying to hijack a thread.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 01/14/17 8:43am

darkroman

Such fools, it's not April yet!

.

All music on Tidal is still there.

.

They have even added TTC into the store!

.

Lord almighty me, what is wrong with some people.

.

lockdance lockdance lockdance

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 01/14/17 8:48am

Germanegro

^^^What is TTC?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 01/14/17 9:01am

TwiliteKid

avatar

Tokyo said:

Checked this morning...

Bit of a bummer as this was the main reason I signed up.

T


Where do you live? I see the vast majority of his catalogue, with nothing new removed since the handful of titles that were removed last month.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 01/14/17 9:02am

TwiliteKid

avatar

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.


Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.




I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool




You're not trying to be an ass, yet you pledge to make this post repeatedly?

Does not compute.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 01/14/17 9:22am

brassneck

avatar

Germanegro said:



brassneck said:




djThunderfunk said:




See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.



.


It's not "like renting" it is IS renting. But it's also the future. Owning things is the attitude of the olds. You can have a "get off my lawn" attitude, but the kids do not care about ownership. At the end of the day, lack of streaming access hurts Prince.


.


I have obsessive, expansive Prince collections on cassette, vinyl, and cd, but I am not normal, nor am I the future.




So sad--and of course the weakend state of our economy has given those with less achievement as their standard a reason to adopt such a stance. It's artificial, though, I think. Unfortunately, this state of mind feeds the oligarchic tendancies of our current state-of-being. Kinda like saying, "I like my poverty and servitude!"


>


I guess I need to shaddup on that yap, though, because I'm not trying to hijack a thread.


.
Uh, I don't think you are understanding at all. It has nothing to do with the economy and everything to do with the way music is consumed.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 01/14/17 9:37am

leecaldon

Germanegro said:

djThunderfunk said:


See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

Yes, djThunderfunk. You forgot to add that you're saving yourself from the constant payment of streaming fees that more than overtake the cost of a one-time item purchase over time. You really do pay for that convenience of having everything at your fingertips all the time (that you are in reach of a wifi signal). And you may REALLY need your Prince tunes when you are out of reach of wifi! lol

One reason the music industry is in trouble is that it is much cheaper to stream music than own it. At £10/month to stream, that budget would allow just one album to be bought per month. I used to buy considerably more than that back in the day.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 01/14/17 9:37am

leecaldon

djThunderfunk said:

leecaldon said:

That's not the point of this thread though. It's relevant in today's market where his music is available to stream, and the removal of albums also throws up interesting questions as to what is going on behind the scenes.


Fair enough. It IS indeed relevant. However there are always some in these threads that depend entirely on Tidal for their Prince fix, and it is not unusual for them to fuss over not having access to certain music anymore. To them I will continue to argue: never trust a streaming service. If you want to use one, great, just don't depend on them as your only source for Prince music.

As for behind the scenes stuff about the estate & Tidal, there's already a thread for that.

Absolutely.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 01/14/17 9:46am

PurpleDiamonds
1

mikeyaddict said:

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.


Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.




I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool



Couldn't agree more. Who the fuck would want to stream things when you can own it and it's yours? Streaming is just a ploy to keep you paying for something you could've bought!


yeahthat
My kids also have this mind set this too...they still use their old iPods
[Edited 1/14/17 9:49am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 01/14/17 10:14am

laytonian

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...
Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.


I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'... cool

.

eye agree!

Streaming services are not going to support artists. P knew that and railed against them (he'd not be happy with Tidal right now, either -- because he didn't know that Jay Z didn't really own it all). P got rooked on that one, too.

All my CDs are ripped onto three computers and two iPods, as well as back-ups kept in the cars.
We don't have wifi in our cars so why would I want to pay to stream?

eye want my own control.

.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 3 123>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Virtually all of Prince's music gone from Tidal