I think we're all clear on why she wanted this kept sealed.
LOL. Some of us tried to tell folks that it was not Prince she was trying to protect and we got harassed for saying so.
And then the threads were soon locked on the basis that she'd had enuff of a beating and we had no right 2 talk about her. Go figure. She's a poster child 4 sanctimonious ppls everywhere.
All the info is in my post -twitter -R.Olson -website urls [Edited 1/13/17 14:29pm]
Are both of those supposed to be Mani? Most divorces, breakups, friendships, partnerships do get ugly, it's the reason i don't get close to people, I fell that what people show you in the end is what they are all along. Why people can't just let each other go without the drama, i don't get.
Sorry, peeps but since y'all have been judgemental upon her, I'd have to say that anybody who will bulldoze a house following someone quitting on them (divorcing in this case) sounds a little like somebody anybody would and should divorce. That a person on the end of that might fear to have terms made public follows straight on from that. That is some shocking behaviour right there. And as anybody who knows what happens when you divorce, the lawyers file the claim based on a general aim of 'get half'. The fact that this is generally seen as 'the man getting half taken' is not the mechanism but rather 'the contract being equalised'.
That's pretty kuch the emotionless fact of contract and law.
When it's company A suing company B for half of a contract and one party gets, in the end, a quarter, we don't hear much about it because there's no gossip value nor emotion value.
Marriage is the most bizarre contract of all because it's never realistic as a proposition at the outset (forever and totally yours etc etc) yet is presented in terms of 'the decent thing to do'. Actually, the terms of marriage are, being religiously influenced, dependent on nothing less than a miracle of a match or a miracle of endurance.
Anybody who ever went from being a fanlike admirer of someone's 'perfection' to emptying their laundry basket knows that 'it ain't all that'
is what I'm sayin
[Edited 1/13/17 14:38pm]
“I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions.”
-Robert Anton Wilson
Sorry, peeps but since y'all have been judgemental upon her, I'd have to say that anybody who will bulldoze a house following someone quitting on them (divorcing in this case) sounds a little like sombody anybody would divorce. And as anybody who knows what happens when you divorce, the lawyers file the claim based on a general aim of 'get half'. The fact that this is generally seen as 'the man getting half taken' is not the mechanism but rather 'the contract being equalised'.
That's pretty kuch the emotionless fact of contract and law.
When it's company A suing company B for half of a contract and one party gets, in the end, a quarter, we don't hear much about it because there's no gossip value nor emotion value.
Marriage is the most bizarre contract of all because it's never realistic as a proposition at the outset (forever and totally yours etc etc) yet is presented in terms of 'the decent thing to do'. Actually, the terms of marriage are, being religiously influenced, dependent on nothing less than a miracle of a match or a miracle of endurance.
Anybody who ever went from being a fanlike admirer of someone's 'perfection' to emptying their laundry basket knows that 'it ain't all that'
is what I'm sayin
Ya, I think it's just where we are as a society, pretty much everyone is the same, the stakes are highter here but it's not any different than what most of us go through. As a sociologist, I know that this society we live in encourages everyone to be against everyone, that explains the laws, the lawyers etc.., We can't be mad at the system we're in, no no, we got to be mad at each other and they do everything to make that happen. divide and conquer for all.
Sorry, peeps but since y'all have been judgemental upon her, I'd have to say that anybody who will bulldoze a house following someone quitting on them (divorcing in this case) sounds a little like sombody anybody would divorce. And as anybody who knows what happens when you divorce, the lawyers file the claim based on a general aim of 'get half'. The fact that this is generally seen as 'the man getting half taken' is not the mechanism but rather 'the contract being equalised'.
That's pretty kuch the emotionless fact of contract and law.
When it's company A suing company B for half of a contract and one party gets, in the end, a quarter, we don't hear much about it because there's no gossip value nor emotion value.
Marriage is the most bizarre contract of all because it's never realistic as a proposition at the outset (forever and totally yours etc etc) yet is presented in terms of 'the decent thing to do'. Actually, the terms of marriage are, being religiously influenced, dependent on nothing less than a miracle of a match or a miracle of endurance.
Anybody who ever went from being a fanlike admirer of someone's 'perfection' to emptying their laundry basket knows that 'it ain't all that'
is what I'm sayin
Ya, I think it's just where we are as a society, pretty much everyone is the same, the stakes are highter here but it's not any different than what most of us go through. As a sociologist, I know that this society we live in encourages everyone to be against everyone, that explains the laws, the lawyers etc.., We can't be mad at the system we're in, no no, we got to be mad at each other and they do everything to make that happen. divide and conquer for all.
Well yeah but no. I think there's a lot of truth in that but there was a lot of truth in Prince's most-time emphasising of personal responsibility, something that comes into every 'agreement' we make with a system (you can say no at any time, most of the time, except when you're under arrest or at the point of a gun, maybe, but there are still others who will still say 'No' at that point.). I don't think he'd have been proud of himself for long with the bulldozer incident. Nobody made him do it. Nobody made him sign the contract. With wife or record company. Nobody makes anybody do anything. FACT
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“I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions.”
-Robert Anton Wilson
Well it appears that P loved the lavish lifestyle and she was milking it for all it is worth! Seemed to get her charity work off the ground, so I guess that is one positive thing out of this marriage. However, this is how alot of these celebrity marriages are, that is why many of them don't last, and I don't put much emphasis on them. They go into them so "in love" but then the excitement fades and then turns out to be to further their career/status (for some) and publicity (for some). Otherwise, nothing new or earth shattering about this in the least.
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Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above~
The only Love there is, is the Love We Make~
Prince4Ever
LOL. Some of us tried to tell folks that it was not Prince she was trying to protect and we got harassed for saying so.
And then the threads were soon locked on the basis that she'd had enuff of a beating and we had no right 2 talk about her. Go figure. She's a poster child 4 sanctimonious ppls everywhere.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
LOL. Some of us tried to tell folks that it was not Prince she was trying to protect and we got harassed for saying so.
And then the threads were soon locked on the basis that she'd had enuff of a beating and we had no right 2 talk about her. Go figure. She's a poster child 4 sanctimonious ppls everywhere.
It got crazy! One of the mods had the nerve to blame the fans for star tribune snooping for the files and was saying we needed to support her or the files will be released. I bet if she was divorce Eric, she could not ask for anything near the amount she was asking Prince.
Ya, I think it's just where we are as a society, pretty much everyone is the same, the stakes are highter here but it's not any different than what most of us go through. As a sociologist, I know that this society we live in encourages everyone to be against everyone, that explains the laws, the lawyers etc.., We can't be mad at the system we're in, no no, we got to be mad at each other and they do everything to make that happen. divide and conquer for all.
Well yeah but no. I think there's a lot of truth in that but there was a lot of truth in Prince's most-time emphasising of personal responsibility, something that comes into every 'agreement' we make with a system (you can say no at any time, most of the time, except when you're under arrest, maybe). I don't think he'd have been proud of himself for long with the bulldozer incident. Nobody made him do it. Nobody makes anybody do anything. FACT
you're right, but people buy into the bullshit, people know how outmoded and useless marriage is but we still fall for it, probably because we've been fed the bullshit idea all our lives. How many men and women are running around in their 40's and 50's, broken and completely obsessed with some person who they think just did them wrong and it just dominates their lives. And a funny thing, they can't admit or see anything they did that was wrong. it's childish, i don't encourage it when I see it because I know it goes on and on and on. One guy, he was complaining about how much he's supposed to pay his wife every month and you just knew he wasn't saying anything about how lousy a husband he probably was. I'm just glad I never fell for the bullshit, it doesn't look fun.
Ya, I think it's just where we are as a society, pretty much everyone is the same, the stakes are highter here but it's not any different than what most of us go through. As a sociologist, I know that this society we live in encourages everyone to be against everyone, that explains the laws, the lawyers etc.., We can't be mad at the system we're in, no no, we got to be mad at each other and they do everything to make that happen. divide and conquer for all.
Well yeah but no. I think there's a lot of truth in that but there was a lot of truth in Prince's most-time emphasising of personal responsibility, something that comes into every 'agreement' we make with a system (you can say no at any time, most of the time, except when you're under arrest or at the point of a gun, maybe, but there are still others who will still say 'No' at that point.). I don't think he'd have been proud of himself for long with the bulldozer incident. Nobody made him do it. Nobody made him sign the contract. With wife or record company. Nobody makes anybody do anything. FACT
[Edited 1/13/17 14:47pm]
Erm. That story makes me smile ever since I first heard it here on the Org.
I don't think it's just women either. I'm just as resentful when men marry a woman of means then want to walk away with a fortune.
Unless the couple somehow was directly involved in the money made during the marraige I think everyone should leave with what they came with...unless there are children involved.
Well yeah but no. I think there's a lot of truth in that but there was a lot of truth in Prince's most-time emphasising of personal responsibility, something that comes into every 'agreement' we make with a system (you can say no at any time, most of the time, except when you're under arrest, maybe). I don't think he'd have been proud of himself for long with the bulldozer incident. Nobody made him do it. Nobody makes anybody do anything. FACT
you're right, but people buy into the bullshit, people know how outmoded and useless marriage is but we still fall for it, probably because we've been fed the bullshit idea all our lives. How many men and women are running around in their 40's and 50's, broken and completely obsessed with some person who they think just did them wrong and it just dominates their lives. And a funny thing, they can't admit or see anything they did that was wrong. it's childish, i don't encourage it when I see it because I know it goes on and on and on. One guy, he was complaining about how much he's supposed to pay his wife every month and you just knew he wasn't saying anything about how lousy a husband he probably was. I'm just glad I never fell for the bullshit, it doesn't look fun.
Preach on. One thing that surprised me about Prince GETTING married again was that he was contracting while simultaneously speaking of contracts as CONtract etc etc. But then, one of the things about popular music is that it's been pretty much dedicated to the romaticising of such contracts. I think John Cusack's character speaking Nick Hornby's words in the movie 'Hi Fidelity' got that nailed. So Prince WAS human after all.
I'm definitely not for beating down on Manuela too much. Nor supporting her too much. All she got was the benefits of her contract which Prince freely entered into and freely disputed at contracts' end. Nor can the lawyers who fight for tooth and nail be censured because that's why they're hired. It's all about personal responsibility in the end. So much of what is going on in the world these days is about pretending that it ain't!
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“I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions.”
-Robert Anton Wilson
Personally, i was selfishly hoping for a little light into why Prince died, maybe he'd already been addicted by the time of the divorce. I don't really care about their spat or the money stuff. It doesn't look like there was anything of interest in regards to how our man ended up dead in an elevator at 57.
Well yeah but no. I think there's a lot of truth in that but there was a lot of truth in Prince's most-time emphasising of personal responsibility, something that comes into every 'agreement' we make with a system (you can say no at any time, most of the time, except when you're under arrest, maybe). I don't think he'd have been proud of himself for long with the bulldozer incident. Nobody made him do it. Nobody makes anybody do anything. FACT
you're right, but people buy into the bullshit, people know how outmoded and useless marriage is but we still fall for it, probably because we've been fed the bullshit idea all our lives. How many men and women are running around in their 40's and 50's, broken and completely obsessed with some person who they think just did them wrong and it just dominates their lives. And a funny thing, they can't admit or see anything they did that was wrong. it's childish, i don't encourage it when I see it because I know it goes on and on and on. One guy, he was complaining about how much he's supposed to pay his wife every month and you just knew he wasn't saying anything about how lousy a husband he probably was. I'm just glad I never fell for the bullshit, it doesn't look fun.
Oh yes, agreed!! I never fell for it either. Don't need all that drama. Just not for me and I couldn't be happier.
Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above~
The only Love there is, is the Love We Make~
Prince4Ever
And then the threads were soon locked on the basis that she'd had enuff of a beating and we had no right 2 talk about her. Go figure. She's a poster child 4 sanctimonious ppls everywhere.
It got crazy! One of the mods had the nerve to blame the fans for star tribune snooping for the files and was saying we needed to support her or the files will be released. I bet if she was divorce Eric, she could not ask for anything near the amount she was asking Prince.
Yup. I think perhaps that is the same mod that's friendly with Mani and posted a pic of P's memorial program on instagram along with a note from Mani like it was something 2 be proud of. Let's see how long this thread stays open before we hear we all hurt Mani's feelings again and it gets locked.
Sorry, peeps but since y'all have been judgemental upon her, I'd have to say that anybody who will bulldoze a house following someone quitting on them (divorcing in this case) sounds a little like somebody anybody would and should divorce. That a person on the end of that might fear to have terms made public follows straight on from that. That is some shocking behaviour right there. And as anybody who knows what happens when you divorce, the lawyers file the claim based on a general aim of 'get half'. The fact that this is generally seen as 'the man getting half taken' is not the mechanism but rather 'the contract being equalised'.
That's pretty kuch the emotionless fact of contract and law.
When it's company A suing company B for half of a contract and one party gets, in the end, a quarter, we don't hear much about it because there's no gossip value nor emotion value.
Marriage is the most bizarre contract of all because it's never realistic as a proposition at the outset (forever and totally yours etc etc) yet is presented in terms of 'the decent thing to do'. Actually, the terms of marriage are, being religiously influenced, dependent on nothing less than a miracle of a match or a miracle of endurance.
Anybody who ever went from being a fanlike admirer of someone's 'perfection' to emptying their laundry basket knows that 'it ain't all that'
is what I'm sayin
[Edited 1/13/17 14:38pm]
nah. i'm sitting right here in judgment. i walked away from my divorce after refusing any/all monetary compensation, for the sake of love that once was. i never believed i was entitled to $$$, nor a 'certain lifestyle' in fact i think the laws in family court are overly generous to women. because i did what i did, my ex and i are still friends, no hate, no digs. to me, that's worth a lot more than cash... so mani can duck my... stick
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jeeeeeeebus 
gold-digger played our hero.