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FUNKNROLL

Prince - New Wave Playlist

What songs would you add, including his songs by Vanity, the Time, others?

1. Controversy
2. Sexuality
3. Private Joy
4. Ronnie Talk to Russia
5. Annie Christian
6. Drive Me Wild
7. Ooo She She Wa Wa
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Reply #1 posted 12/10/16 7:20pm

TrivialPursuit

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FUNKNROLL said:

What songs would you add, including his songs by Vanity, the Time, others?
1. Controversy
2. Sexuality
3. Private Joy
4. Ronnie Talk to Russia
5. Annie Christian
6. Drive Me Wild
7. Ooo She She Wa Wa


Onedayimgonnabesomebody

Let's Pretend We're Married

New World

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #2 posted 12/10/16 7:42pm

jwillis2000

Gotta Stop Messin' About cool

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Reply #3 posted 12/12/16 6:27am

scratchtasia

When You Were Mine
Automatic

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Reply #4 posted 12/12/16 6:36am

imprimis

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The Belle of St Mark

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Happy Birthday, Mr Christian

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Romance 1600

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Miss Understood

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He's So Dull

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A Case of You (As Rehearsed/Performed Live at First Avenue on 08/03/1983)

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Our Destiny (As Performed Live at First Avenue on 06/07/1984)

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[Edited 12/12/16 6:44am]

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Reply #5 posted 12/12/16 6:50am

leecaldon

TrivialPursuit said:

FUNKNROLL said:

7. Ooo She She Wa Wa


Onedayimgonnabesomebody

Let's Pretend We're Married

New World

?

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Reply #6 posted 12/12/16 7:03am

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Bite The Beat

Turn It Up

Romance 1600

My Man

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Reply #7 posted 12/12/16 7:13am

imprimis

After Hi School

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Perhaps also:

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Cool

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If It'll Make You Happy

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Manic Monday (A6 demo)

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4 The Tears In Your Eyes (WATW Album Version)

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[Edited 12/12/16 7:41am]

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Reply #8 posted 12/12/16 9:07am

TrivialPursuit

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leecaldon said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Onedayimgonnabesomebody

Let's Pretend We're Married

New World

?


Not sure how to respond to punctuation.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #9 posted 12/12/16 9:09am

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TrivialPursuit said:

leecaldon said:

?


Not sure how to respond to punctuation.

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Lest anyone forget:

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New World (originally titled Love 4 1 Another) is the second track on the third disc of Prince's 19th album Emancipation

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Reply #10 posted 12/12/16 9:12am

jdcxc

FUNKNROLL said:

What songs would you add, including his songs by Vanity, the Time, others?

1. Controversy
2. Sexuality
3. Private Joy
4. Ronnie Talk to Russia
5. Annie Christian
6. Drive Me Wild
7. Ooo She She Wa Wa


I always thought Sexuality had more of a tribal funk thing going on...ahead of its time. Love this song and underappreciated on the Org.
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Reply #11 posted 12/12/16 9:13am

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jdcxc said:

FUNKNROLL said:
What songs would you add, including his songs by Vanity, the Time, others? 1. Controversy 2. Sexuality 3. Private Joy 4. Ronnie Talk to Russia 5. Annie Christian 6. Drive Me Wild 7. Ooo She She Wa Wa
I always thought Sexuality had more of a tribal funk thing going on...ahead of its time. Love this song and underappreciated on the Org.

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Yes, it is far ahead of its time. It could comfortably fit on 1999 without any meaningful sense of ageing.

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Reply #12 posted 12/12/16 9:14am

pzlyprk

TrivialPursuit said:

leecaldon said:

?


Not sure how to respond to punctuation.

Think it's pretty obvious the ? means how on earth could anyone ever catagorize "New World" as New Wave. It's not even close.

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Reply #13 posted 12/12/16 9:15am

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pzlyprk said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Not sure how to respond to punctuation.

Think it's pretty obvious the ? means how on earth could anyone ever catagorize "New World" as New Wave. It's not even close.

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Cognitive dissonance with 'In This Bed I Scream'?

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Reply #14 posted 12/12/16 9:37am

TrivialPursuit

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pzlyprk said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Not sure how to respond to punctuation.

Think it's pretty obvious the ? means how on earth could anyone ever catagorize "New World" as New Wave. It's not even close.


If it was obvious, I could have responded to it. Your theory isn't obvious, but only to you. Maybe they didn't know about "New World". What if they're a new fan, and hadn't dug into Emancipation yet?

And it is to me, so - that's my answer. It's not right or wrong, it's my answer.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #15 posted 12/12/16 10:39am

Genesia

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Automatic

Tick, Tick, Bang (the original version)

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #16 posted 12/12/16 2:07pm

TrivialPursuit

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Genesia said:

Automatic

Tick, Tick, Bang (the original version)


OMG YES!

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #17 posted 12/12/16 2:31pm

imprimis

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'When You Were Mine' is probably the most thoroughbred New Wave track he released on one of his own records. The others cited veer more into synthpop, slightly New Romantic-tinged, and/or R&B funk-punk.

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[Edited 12/12/16 14:34pm]

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imprimis said:

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'When You Were Mine' is probably the most thoroughbred New Wave track he released on one of his own records. The others cited veer more into synthpop, slightly New Romantic-tinged, and/or R&B funk-punk.


It certainly was, as it appealed to one of the biggest new-wave-esque artists of the 80s - Cyndi Lauper.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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leecaldon

TrivialPursuit said:

pzlyprk said:

Think it's pretty obvious the ? means how on earth could anyone ever catagorize "New World" as New Wave. It's not even close.


If it was obvious, I could have responded to it. Your theory isn't obvious, but only to you. Maybe they didn't know about "New World". What if they're a new fan, and hadn't dug into Emancipation yet?

And it is to me, so - that's my answer. It's not right or wrong, it's my answer.

Yes, the ? was because that song (unless there is another different track that is not on Emancipation) is not even remotely New Wave.

It's a techno song - and was to be the title track of a techno album back in 1995 (according to Mayte at the time).

New Wave it ain't. And that's not a matter of opinion.

(And you can see from my profile that I'm not a newbie).

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Reply #20 posted 12/17/16 1:45pm

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All Day All Night. and. Hard To Get
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #21 posted 12/17/16 2:30pm

bsprout

Computer Blue
dancing jig
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Reply #22 posted 12/17/16 8:39pm

oliviacamron

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leecaldon said:



TrivialPursuit said:




pzlyprk said:




Think it's pretty obvious the ? means how on earth could anyone ever catagorize "New World" as New Wave. It's not even close.




If it was obvious, I could have responded to it. Your theory isn't obvious, but only to you. Maybe they didn't know about "New World". What if they're a new fan, and hadn't dug into Emancipation yet?

And it is to me, so - that's my answer. It's not right or wrong, it's my answer.




Yes, the ? was because that song (unless there is another different track that is not on Emancipation) is not even remotely New Wave.



It's a techno song - and was to be the title track of a techno album back in 1995 (according to Mayte at the time).



New Wave it ain't. And that's not a matter of opinion.



(And you can see from my profile that I'm not a newbie).


What about All the Critics love you in New York? That sounds techno and i don't even think techno was out yet back in '83
[Edited 12/17/16 20:40pm]
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #23 posted 12/17/16 9:11pm

purpleemotions

Escape
Irresistible bitch

:Pop Life live in Detroit: music
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Reply #24 posted 12/19/16 7:13am

Genesia

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Velvet Kitty Cat

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Reply #25 posted 12/20/16 3:04pm

leecaldon

oliviacamron said:

leecaldon said:



TrivialPursuit said:




pzlyprk said:




Think it's pretty obvious the ? means how on earth could anyone ever catagorize "New World" as New Wave. It's not even close.




If it was obvious, I could have responded to it. Your theory isn't obvious, but only to you. Maybe they didn't know about "New World". What if they're a new fan, and hadn't dug into Emancipation yet?

And it is to me, so - that's my answer. It's not right or wrong, it's my answer.




Yes, the ? was because that song (unless there is another different track that is not on Emancipation) is not even remotely New Wave.



It's a techno song - and was to be the title track of a techno album back in 1995 (according to Mayte at the time).



New Wave it ain't. And that's not a matter of opinion.



(And you can see from my profile that I'm not a newbie).


What about All the Critics love you in New York? That sounds techno and i don't even think techno was out yet back in '83
[Edited 12/17/16 20:40pm]


The 1999 album was certainly a forerunner to modern dance music.
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Reply #26 posted 12/20/16 3:35pm

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Genesia said:

Velvet Kitty Cat


I'm not even familiar with that song. hmmm must google. I'm back. What a funny song lol
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I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #27 posted 12/20/16 3:59pm

imprimis

oliviacamron said:

Genesia said:

Velvet Kitty Cat

I'm not even familiar with that song. hmmm must google. I'm back. What a funny song lol [Edited 12/20/16 15:39pm]

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It's a fun, if insubstantial little ditty in the form of a very underdeveloped demo.

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New Wave it isn't though.

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More of an 'If I Had a Harem (1988, studio version)-type blues effort, by way of Prince's early 1980s weirdness. A distant relative of 'Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody'. Rumored to have been recorded with The Time's 'What Time Is It?' album in mind (possibly as 'Mink Kitty Kat'), and revisted again for the 'Ice Cream Castles' album. It's not known whether a completed version exists.

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It's kind of Prince's own 'Suze Lovelace'.

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This track leaked as a snippet about four or five years ago, and a full length Prince-vocal demo surfaced in the past couple of years.

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[Edited 12/20/16 16:39pm]

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Reply #28 posted 12/20/16 4:14pm

phatphuk



I've resisted the temptation to respond to this thread. But I can't bite my tongue any longer.



Prince's <quote>New Wave<unquote> outings certainly deserve an A for effort. But compared to real, critically-acclaimed masters of the New Wave genre, Prince's forays into that territory, sound almost workmanlike — sophomoric even.



By "Masters Of The Genre", I'm talking about bands such as XTCBlondieTears For FearsDevoOrchestral Manoeuvres In The DarkJoy Division/New OrderTalking Heads — and so on…



If Prince's take on New Wave, is a person's only frame of reference for that milieu, then they would be forgiven for thinking Prince's homages, is the be-all-and-end-all. That is a testament to Prince's general mastery of the songwriting craft.



Again, not to take anything away from Prince's New Wave-ish dabblings. But to afficiandos of New Wave, Prince's forays into that area — though undeniably a respectable effort — are only marginally better than yer basic pastiche. In my opinion.









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