Philly76 said:

I hope this place is being watched by the Prince family. And yes, as long as all the stuff out there wont be released i will get it somewhere else for free. It's up to his sister and related persons to release more stuff to get rid of those bootlegers. And sure, i will still pay for official releases.

The family has to catalogue the music before they can put it out. It appears that they know how much material is avalible and they have found a entertainment law firm so I am sure they will get the material out. It is not going to come out all at once so people need to be patient.

I think most of us will support an official Montreux release even though we all have the bootlegs. With that said, the official release should give us something that we can't get from the bootlegs, which should not be hard to do. The reality is that fans are not going to avoid quality bootlegged material, but we all have a duty to support official releases even if we obtained the material previously via bootleg. Again, it is important for the official releases to give us something added/special. Radio edits like what were in 4ever does not count.

thedance said:

laurarichardson said:

derrick31 said:

It could take a long time before ever hear any of Prince's unreleased music. It took the Hendrix' family years to sort things out in court. I think Prince's case is much more complicated because there was no will, there are multiple claims to the estate, and because Prince recorded on several labels (Warner, Arista, and Sony).I don't see us getting anything officially for years. Moonbeam Levels and the PR remaster were already done deals with Warner prior to Prince's death. http://ultimateclassicroc...er-estate/

Hendrix did not have a will either and his estate took a long time to straigthen out because the attorney Leo Bratten was a crook who mis-managed the estate while he paid himself a good salary.

As soon as Al Hendrix passed his step daughter took over and found better attorneys.

The Nelson family has already gotten rid of Breamer who have let things go on for too long.

Prince owned his masters and already set up an LLC for the publishing. Breamer was stupid to go to Universal when Prince had a LLC and a manager for it.

The deals with Arista, EMI and Sony were one off deals with Prince retaining the master recording.

The family has rights to all of the music and the court is allowing deals to continue while the probate continues. No reason the family cannot obtain better estate managers and continue with releashes.

donnyenglish said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

He is crying how much more emotion do you need to see?

Honestly? He was proud of this song as well he should be. It's beautiful. But I sensed showmanship and dry tears at the end only. Maybe I'm wrong; I don't know. That's just what I saw. I also saw Hannah doing the same a few times. A kind of forced emotion. There WAS emotion at those shows. I just didn't feel it here. Prince's raw, natural emotion showed on other songs though. It's whenbhes tying not to he emotional that he's at his most emotional to me. 😀

"But I sensed showmanship and dry tears at the end only."

What the hell are dry tears? There was nothing forced and he was not known for being an emotional dude.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

He is crying how much more emotion do you need to see?

Honestly? He was proud of this song as well he should be. It's beautiful. But I sensed showmanship and dry tears at the end only. Maybe I'm wrong; I don't know. That's just what I saw. I also saw Hannah doing the same a few times. A kind of forced emotion. There WAS emotion at those shows. I just didn't feel it here. Prince's raw, natural emotion showed on other songs though. It's whenbhes tying not to he emotional that he's at his most emotional to me.

😀

"But I sensed showmanship and dry tears at the end only."

What the hell are dry tears? There was nothing forced and he was not known for being an emotional dude.

why is it so hard to have an open discussion on this board?
nearly every thread dies sooner or later with 2 or 3 guys diggin in their heels while all others are leaving the thread. or the org. this is nothing personal! just my sense and hopefully I won't be killed 4 that ...

so IMO its pretty simple: one feels a specific emotion. the other does not. either is ok. no one is wrong. nobody KNOWS. maybe its just me but I'm interested in the opinion, the feelings and the sense of others. thats why I'm here. that's why I join discussions. just sayin ...

so 2 those "knowing" prince was crying during the breakdown:
do u actually SEE him cry? I don't.
what I SEE is him wiping under his eyes (during and again and again after that song). and I SEE him sweating (before, during and after that song). so since I know he's wearing full make up ... there is a possibility he's just fearing black sweat. maybe? I don't see any other sign of crying like red eyes or typical facial expressions. and I don't feel his sadness in this situation (on my screen. I haven't been there). what I actualy SEE is him smiling during this song and that smile seems genuine 2 me. so maybe he cried. maybe not. maybe he cried and it had nothing to do with his death 3 years later. who knows? honestly I don't. and chances are nobody does. peace

lemoncrush19 said:

laurarichardson said:

lemoncrush19 said:

why is it so hard to have an open discussion on this board?
nearly every thread dies sooner or later with 2 or 3 guys diggin in their heels while all others are leaving the thread. or the org. this is nothing personal! just my sense and hopefully I won't be killed 4 that ...

so IMO its pretty simple: one feels a specific emotion. the other does not. either is ok. no one is wrong. nobody KNOWS. maybe its just me but I'm interested in the opinion, the feelings and the sense of others. thats why I'm here. that's why I join discussions. just sayin ...

so 2 those "knowing" prince was crying during the breakdown:
do u actually SEE him cry? I don't.
what I SEE is him wiping under his eyes (during and again and again after that song). and I SEE him sweating (before, during and after that song). so since I know he's wearing full make up ... there is a possibility he's just fearing black sweat. maybe? I don't see any other sign of crying like red eyes or typical facial expressions. and I don't feel his sadness in this situation (on my screen. I haven't been there). what I actualy SEE is him smiling during this song and that smile seems genuine 2 me. so maybe he cried. maybe not. maybe he cried and it had nothing to do with his death 3 years later. who knows? honestly I don't. and chances are nobody does. peace

--If you don't see him crying at the end of the breakdown you are living in a state of denial. If you want to live there go ahead no skin off my nose. I also asked a question What is a dry tear? Either you are crying or you are not crying.

well that's your opinion. TY 4 sharing. but its ok 2 have a different one, isnt it?

lemoncrush19 said:

laurarichardson said:

lemoncrush19 said: --If you don't see him crying at the end of the breakdown you are living in a state of denial. If you want to live there go ahead no skin off my nose. I also asked a question What is a dry tear? Either you are crying or you are not crying.

well that's your opinion. TY 4 sharing. but its ok 2 have a different one, isnt it?

Yes, it is okay to say the sky is green when it is blue. Think about that for a minute.

anangellooksdown said:

ROFL! Ok. Now all I can do is laugh. This is riDICulous. Obviously this is a perfect example of different people seeing the same thing in different ways. And yes. It is okay. Life would be gray if everyone had the same perspective.

anangellooksdown said:

lust said:

anangellooksdown said:

One can't see tears because the lighting is not right and it is not close up enough. However, I agree with Laura that he was crying. Watch his breathing while he is changing the settings on his keyboard all this while telling the audience to give their love to the horn players. To me, it looks like he is trying to keep his shit together. It doesn't sound like he was setting up an emotional scene (if he was, he would give an emotional speech about the song or something.) Yes, he sometimes gets sweat in his eyes and uses a kleenex to wipe it in other clips. But here, he wipes his eyes two or three times while breathing heavy. He wasn't dancing or anything so breathing heavy wouldn't make sense for that reason. the dude was getting emotional. It doesn't necessarily mean it was because he thought he was dying. It could be because he felt humbled by pain, God, Andy Allo or whatever..Who knows. Its an emotional song that he gave his all to.

laurarichardson said:

anangellooksdown said:

ROFL! Ok. Now all I can do is laugh. This is riDICulous. Obviously this is a perfect example of different people seeing the same thing in different ways. And yes. It is okay. Life would be gray if everyone had the same perspective.

-- The sky will always be blue no matter what you think you see. You are no different then the women filing a claim that she secretly married Prince in 2002 but the CIA has taken the marriage certificate. You are like Rodney Dixion who is claiming Prince signed away his rights to his music to him back 1996 and he should inherit everything. You see the courts and most people are living in the real world. Prince does not have glitter on his face and he is not cutting up onions on the stage he is crying briefly on that stage. Live in the real world. [Edited 12/20/16 14:11pm]

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:

Gohi said:

Yeah, the girls look very unhappy and dismayed during show 3, particularly Hannah (who was usually all smiles.) "Nervous" is the word I would use to describe the energy on that stage. Prince must have been extra hard on them during this run of shows or something.

What's with the horns being pretty much inaudible on show 3? I thought they were miming during "The Breakdown."

you are seeing ghosts..if you wan to see the joy hannah had , look no further than the transition from play that funky music to dreamer from this show and that should put whatever it is you're think you see to rest

Respectfully disagree.

The vibe is off and I'm not the only one who thinks so. Cool that you think she's joyful based on one tiny moment when she looks nervous and awkward the rest of the time lol.

laurarichardson said:

anangellooksdown said:

ROFL! Ok. Now all I can do is laugh. This is riDICulous. Obviously this is a perfect example of different people seeing the same thing in different ways. And yes. It is okay. Life would be gray if everyone had the same perspective.

-- The sky will always be blue no matter what you think you see. You are no different then the women filing a claim that she secretly married Prince in 2002 but the CIA has taken the marriage certificate. You are like Rodney Dixion who is claiming Prince signed away his rights to his music to him back 1996 and he should inherit everything. You see the courts and most people are living in the real world. Prince does not have glitter on his face and he is not cutting up onions on the stage he is crying briefly on that stage. Live in the real world. [Edited 12/20/16 14:11pm]

Wow, no need to be so rude to someone who disagrees on something so subjective as music. This is not even close to being the same thing as someone denying the OBJECTIVE TRUTH of the color of the sky. What's wrong with her saying Prince was emotional during some parts of the show but not this one part? Why does that make it okay for you to compare her to liars and shady characters?

What a silly thing to get so confrontational about. Life's too short, laurarichardson.

Gohi said:

laurarichardson said:

anangellooksdown said: -- The sky will always be blue no matter what you think you see. You are no different then the women filing a claim that she secretly married Prince in 2002 but the CIA has taken the marriage certificate. You are like Rodney Dixion who is claiming Prince signed away his rights to his music to him back 1996 and he should inherit everything. You see the courts and most people are living in the real world. Prince does not have glitter on his face and he is not cutting up onions on the stage he is crying briefly on that stage. Live in the real world. [Edited 12/20/16 14:11pm]

Wow, no need to be so rude to someone who disagrees on something so subjective as music. This is not even close to being the same thing as someone denying the OBJECTIVE TRUTH of the color of the sky. What's wrong with her saying Prince was emotional during some parts of the show but not this one part? Why does that make it okay for you to compare her to liars and shady characters?

What a silly thing to get so confrontational about. Life's too short, laurarichardson.

I am being real not confrontational. I am being told I don't see what I see with my own two eyes and something anyone with good eyesight should be able to see. It is not just my opinion.

You should have more of a problem with people pretending than with me pointing out the absurdity of the comments and please stop equating pointing out the obvious with the concept that life's too short.

The two things have nothing to do with each other.

lust said:

laurarichardson said:

-- The sky will always be blue no matter what you think you see. You are no different then the women filing a claim that she secretly married Prince in 2002 but the CIA has taken the marriage certificate. You are like Rodney Dixion who is claiming Prince signed away his rights to his music to him back 1996 and he should inherit everything. You see the courts and most people are living in the real world. Prince does not have glitter on his face and he is not cutting up onions on the stage he is crying briefly on that stage. Live in the real world. [Edited 12/20/16 14:11pm]

And if he is crying that means he knew his days were numbered? You need something to link the two. It's just irrational speculation born of nothing.

I can link it two about a dozen different things that we actually know about or have some info on. This has been discussed on this board over and over again. I would tell you to try the search area but some smart people have deleted all entire threads with this info on it.

Something was going on with Prince in the last 3-2 years of his life and I think it was more than pain meds based on the many comments made by people who actually worked for him and knew him.

He is not crying out of happiness in this clip.

"the sky is all purple people running everywhere..."

Does anyone else think that his voice sounds off on Breakdown at Montreux? The other times that he has sung it live I also think that his voice is a bit off. Maybe it is a hard song to sing live, but there are some notes that he doesn't seem to hit when he does that one live.

laurarichardson said:

Gohi said:

Wow, no need to be so rude to someone who disagrees on something so subjective as music. This is not even close to being the same thing as someone denying the OBJECTIVE TRUTH of the color of the sky. What's wrong with her saying Prince was emotional during some parts of the show but not this one part? Why does that make it okay for you to compare her to liars and shady characters?

What a silly thing to get so confrontational about. Life's too short, laurarichardson.

I am being real not confrontational. I am being told I don't see what I see with my own two eyes and something anyone with good eyesight should be able to see. It is not just my opinion.

You should have more of a problem with people pretending than with me pointing out the absurdity of the comments and please stop equating pointing out the obvious with the concept that life's too short.

The two things have nothing to do with each other.

NO laurarichardson, nobody told u what u should see BUT u told others what they have 2 see. thats a huge difference! please re-read the posts and maybe u want 2 re-check ur wording and ur tonality sometimes on this board. this is not a court but a place where ppl want to share their opinion and their feelings and be respected. and its not the 1st time someone on this board told u, isnt it? peace and merry christmas!

its out there BIG time ...

thank GOD

[Edited 12/21/16 9:50am]