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Thread started 12/01/16 10:17pm

heymistermusic

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KISS (Extended Version) - the voices at the end - who's voices are they?

I was lucky enough to receive this song as an advance promotional copy on vinyl a few weeks before it hit the airwaves, and was in shock when I heard the "new" sound this single offered. I also knew early on that this song would be huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge when it was released.

A few weeks later, I purchased the 12" mix on vinyl, but when I heard the song, the ending didn't make sense, it's just two people chatting away. At the time, the TV show "Sienfeld" was a big hit on TV, and I originally thought the two people having a discussion was George Costanza's parents (played by Jerry Stiller and Estelle Harris)

Does anyone know WHO did the voices at the end of that song? I bow to the knowledge of the org, and I've done my research and used the google search button already, I apologize if I've missed it somewhere, and would still love the answer.

Thank you in advance! lips fallinluv

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Reply #1 posted 12/01/16 10:19pm

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Reply #2 posted 12/01/16 10:45pm

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http://princevault.com/in...title=Kiss

Prince + Jill Jones is my guess

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Reply #3 posted 12/01/16 10:57pm

Transformed1

Seinfeld went on the air in 1989. Kiss was 1986. but I see your point

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Reply #4 posted 12/01/16 11:08pm

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lol I was thinking Seinfeld started in 86? confuse

Transformed1 said:

Seinfeld went on the air in 1989. Kiss was 1986. but I see your point

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And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #5 posted 12/01/16 11:09pm

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Sources say Jill Jones, but it sounds more like Sheila to me. Her voice is pretty unique, IMO. And with her and Prince's synergy at that time (remember, she was not only working on albums with him, but playing on stuff like "Pop Life", "Alexa De Paris", "Life Can Be So Nice", and "Venus De Milo"), it'd made sense that she was in the mix even more. But maybe it is Jill Jones.

PS there is information on Princevault.com and they list it as Jill. I just don't remember Jill being around music by that time, at least on many songs (other than "The Ladder"). It was all about Wendy, Lisa, Susannah, and Sheila on stuff. (I love the way he divided them into teams on left or right channels on "Anotherloverholenyohead".)

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Reply #6 posted 12/01/16 11:10pm

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i always guessed it was Susannah as i dont know or recongnize her voice

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Reply #7 posted 12/01/16 11:12pm

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Transformed1 said:

Seinfeld went on the air in 1989. Kiss was 1986. but I see your point



oh my, you're correct, there's no way Sienfeld was on the air in '86. Any idea who the MALE voice is? They make a great married couple! Haha!

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Reply #8 posted 12/01/16 11:16pm

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heymistermusic said:

Any idea who the MALE voice is?

Prince!! brick lol









i mean it sounds like him razz

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

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Reply #9 posted 12/02/16 1:33am

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i always guessed it was Susannah as i dont know or recongnize her voice


--/ I think it is Susan.
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Reply #10 posted 12/02/16 2:02am

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heymistermusic said:


A few weeks later, I purchased the 12" mix on vinyl, but when I heard the song, the ending didn't make sense, it's just two people chatting away. At the time, the TV show "Sienfeld" was a big hit on TV, and I originally thought the two people having a discussion was George Costanza's parents (played by Jerry Stiller and Estelle Harris)

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Look, if you're going to make up bullshit, don't pretend that a show that debuted in 1989 was featured on a 12" released in 1986. Oh, and the show is called Seinfeld.

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Reply #11 posted 12/02/16 4:12am

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Sources say Jill Jones, but it sounds more like Sheila to me. Her voice is pretty unique, IMO. And with her and Prince's synergy at that time (remember, she was not only working on albums with him, but playing on stuff like "Pop Life", "Alexa De Paris", "Life Can Be So Nice", and "Venus De Milo"), it'd made sense that she was in the mix even more. But maybe it is Jill Jones.

PS there is information on Princevault.com and they list it as Jill. I just don't remember Jill being around music by that time, at least on many songs (other than "The Ladder"). It was all about Wendy, Lisa, Susannah, and Sheila on stuff. (I love the way he divided them into teams on left or right channels on "Anotherloverholenyohead".)



Jill was still very much in the mix during that time. Her album was still being fleshed out then. She was also in France during some of the filming of UTCM.
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Reply #12 posted 12/02/16 5:05am

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BartVanHemelen said:

heymistermusic said:


A few weeks later, I purchased the 12" mix on vinyl, but when I heard the song, the ending didn't make sense, it's just two people chatting away. At the time, the TV show "Sienfeld" was a big hit on TV, and I originally thought the two people having a discussion was George Costanza's parents (played by Jerry Stiller and Estelle Harris)

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Look, if you're going to make up bullshit, don't pretend that a show that debuted in 1989 was featured on a 12" released in 1986. Oh, and the show is called Seinfeld.

Be nice.

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Reply #13 posted 12/02/16 5:41am

Rimshottbob

Well aren't we the gallant charmer?

There's a difference between someone making a simple error, and someone 'making up bullshit'.

Learn this and you will go far in life.

Chill out, sweetcheeks, you'll give yourself a heart attack.

BartVanHemelen said:

heymistermusic said:


A few weeks later, I purchased the 12" mix on vinyl, but when I heard the song, the ending didn't make sense, it's just two people chatting away. At the time, the TV show "Sienfeld" was a big hit on TV, and I originally thought the two people having a discussion was George Costanza's parents (played by Jerry Stiller and Estelle Harris)

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Look, if you're going to make up bullshit, don't pretend that a show that debuted in 1989 was featured on a 12" released in 1986. Oh, and the show is called Seinfeld.

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Reply #14 posted 12/02/16 6:25am

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It's clearly Jill. And yes, they are parodizing a kvetching older Jewish couple. I'd say the it's a bit more on the Eddie Murphy routine-side, rather than the Costanza side. Given that the remix was made in late 1985, it obviously isn't referencing Seinfeld (which had a mostly ignored pilot in July 1989, and didn't find mainstream success until at least late 1990), nor is it a particularly inventive comedic trope. It may be good-humored, but not exactly politically correct (although what was in the first half of the 1980s).

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Reply #15 posted 12/02/16 6:52am

RodeoSchro

kingmonkey said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Look, if you're going to make up bullshit, don't pretend that a show that debuted in 1989 was featured on a 12" released in 1986. Oh, and the show is called Seinfeld.

Be nice.



You must be new here.

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Reply #16 posted 12/02/16 6:52am

RodeoSchro

Anyway, it sounds like Mr. Moneyminder from "Jughead". So if you know who Mr. Moneyminder is, you know who the man in "Kiss" is!

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Reply #17 posted 12/02/16 8:59am

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Jill was still very much in the mix during that time. Her album was still being fleshed out then. She was also in France during some of the filming of UTCM.


"What kinda noise is that?"

(Waits for someone to get that joke.)

Yeah, she was around I guess, but I meant more in his music. I don't, off hand, recall her being on credits for anything on Parade or SOTT, was more my point.

Still sounds like Sheila to me. lol

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Reply #18 posted 12/02/16 11:21am

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That is Jill Jones on the extended version (talking and singing)

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Reply #19 posted 12/02/16 11:26am

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Yeah, she was around I guess, but I meant more in his music. I don't, off hand, recall her being on credits for anything on Parade or SOTT, was more my point.

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Draw your own inferences for how frequently or intensely JJ was in P's hair or music during rougly this time period:

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(Not an Exhaustive List):

____________________________________________________

May XX, 1985 (Specific Dates Unknown)

  • Immediately following the Purple Rain Tour, after a brief respite, & occupied initially with single release decision-making and music videos for the contrarily and unevenly marketed ATWIAD, and some laying down the groundwork to the soundtrack (and location scouting) for his forthcoming 'Under the Cherry Moon' film, Jill Jones' long-deferred solo album is high among P's list of priorities, and he directs considerable energies towards culling Vault material, and recording new tracks and parts for her project throughout the late Spring and early Summer of 1985.

May 10, 1985

  • My Man (Lead and Backing Vocals)

May XX, 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • I Guess It’s All Over (Backing Vocals, Mazarati Album; Vocals re-written by Prince; work on all three projects occurring simultaneously in neighboring studios at Sunset Sound; David Z common co-producer/engineer between Mazarati and JJ)
  • Strawberry Lover (Backing Vocals, Mazarati Album; Vocals re-written by Prince; work on all three projects occurring simultaneously in neighboring studios at Sunset Sound; David Z common co-producer/engineer between Mazarati and JJ)

May 24, 1985

  • Hello (Backing Vocals, B-Side to ‘Pop Life’)

May 26, 1985

  • Come Elektra Tuesday (Backing Vocals)

May 29, 1985

  • Killin’ Time at the Soda Shop (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)
  • Married Man (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)

May 30, 1985

  • For Love (Lead and Backing Vocals)

June 2 ,1985

  • Living Doll (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)

Summer 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unkown)

  • Boom, Boom (Can't U Feel the Beat of My Heart) (Lead and Backing Vocals. V6 outtake, Outtake to first JJ album, further work in 1989 for aborted second JJ album)
  • My Baby Knows (Lead and Backing Vocals. V6 outtake, Outtake to first JJ album, further work in 1989 for aborted second JJ album)

Late 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Kiss 12” Single Remix (Additional Vocals at the End)

December XX, 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Eternity (Initial tracking by Prince. Further work conducted in 1986 and early 1987. Was compiled on a demo cassette, alongside 'Euphoria Highway', a JJ album outtake, provided to George Clinton for prospective use by Vanessa Williams in March 1986. That project failed to materialize. Ultimately released by Sheena Easton on her 'No Sound But A Heart' album, heavily overdubbed and reworked, in July 1987. Jill Jones appears uncreditedly on backing vocals, suggesting that a complete studio version with Jill's lead vocals may also exist)

December 23, 1985

  • Manic Monday, promo/lead single to the Bangles' 'In A Different Light' album, is released. The full album would be released the next month in most markets. Features Jill Jones' backing vocals, uncredited, in the mix, retained from the original Apollonia 6 multitrack from February 4, 1984. The single would go on to make #2 in both the UK and US.

January 8, 1986

  • Rough (Lead and Backing Vocals; This track, occasionally referred to as 'Too Rough', had been initially tracked in 1980, either during, or shortly after the sessions that yielded 'Dirty Mind'. Additional overdubbing, or perhaps a complete re-recording of the track, was conducted with Alexander O'Neal in Spring 1981, rumoredly for use on an early version of 'The Time' project, or the fledgling 'The Hookers'. The track was dusted off from the Vault in late 1984 or early 1985 for possible use on 'The Family' project. A copyright was submitted on March 25, 1985. It's unknown whether any additional work occurred in 1984 or 1985, nor which of the 1980 or 1981 recordings was used as the basis for later versions. On January 8, 1986, this song was rechristened for use on Jill Jones' forthcoming album, and a heavily overdubbed version featuring Jill's vocals was recorded on this date. Additional Eric Leeds saxophone parts were recorded later in 1986 [or perhaps retained from any speculative work done in late 1984/early 1985 when the track was being considered for 'The Family'])

January XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Baby, You’re a Trip (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • G-Spot (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • Mia Bocca (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • With You (Lead and Backing Vocals)

February 17, 1986

  • Euphoria Highway (Miscellaneous Vocal Work, JJ album outttake; used as the opening to the album, or opening to one side of the prospective LP, on an early sequencing of 'Jill Jones')

February XX, 1986 (Specific Dates Unknown)

  • Prince sequences an early configuration of the 'Jill Jones' album.

March 27, 1986

  • Movie Star (?) (Some Sources Indicate Susannah Melvoin, Miscellaneous Vocal Work)

May XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown; Further Work Summer/Fall 1986)

  • If I Could Get Your Attention (Lead and Backing Vocals; DF/CB-era P outtake; Both Jill Jones-only lead vocal, and Jill-Prince duet mixes known to have been tried out; likewise with Taja Sevelle after the track was dropped from Jill's and P's 1986/1987 projects)

July XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown

  • All Day, All Night (Lead and Backing Vocals)

August XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • My Sex (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track; Considered briefly in 1986 as the title to Jill's first album)

Summer 1986 (Specific Recoding Dates)

  • 77 Bleeker St (Lead and Backing Vocals, B-Side to ‘Mia Bocca’, Overdub Work by Prince in January 1987)

September XX,1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Superfunkycalifragisexy (?) (Limited Input/Additional Vocals, Uncredited; Some sources claim Susannah Melvoin; further mixing and overdub work conducted by Prince in January 1987, during approximately the time SOTT's final configuration was being sequenced. A version of the track, edited for time, was slated to appear on December 1987's aborted 'The Black Album'.)

October 11, 1986

  • Violet Blue (Lead and Backing Vocals)

October 30, 1986

  • Good Love (Backing Vocals, Uncredited)

November 12, 1986

  • Studio work by Prince on album sequencing and further overdubs to the 'Jill Jones' album. This sequencing is possibly, but not necessarily, the final (released) configuration of the album. 'Jill Jones' would not be released until May 26, 1987.

November 22, 1986

  • It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night (Overdubbed Backing Vocals)

Early/Mid 1987 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • For Lust (Co-Lead and Backing Vocals, Outtake to aborted second JJ album (and, perhaps, the first JJ album); additional mixing in late 1987/early 1988; Clare Fischer overdubbing in January 1988; /rumors/ that this P outtake was revamped as a duet sometime in 1987 for use as a complementary B-Side to the 'For Love' single, but was ultimately held back for more production and eventual use on Jill's unrealized follow-up album; a Jill Jones-only lead vocal version was also tried out)

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Addenda:

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Rumors of a Jill Jones 1986 vocal version of 'Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me?' (later released by Taja Sevelle, as with 'If I Could Get Your Attention'), uncredited backing vocal work on 'Feel U Up' (1986); 'Stella and Charles' (May 26, 1985), 'Polka-Dot Tiger' (May 28, 1985), and 'Zebra with the Blonde Hair' (May 29, 1986) have been speculated to be (at a minimum) instrumentals recorded for potential use on the first JJ album. It was previously speculated that 'Rebirth of the Flesh', and 'Rockhard in a Funky Place', both recorded October 28, 1986, featured Jill Jones on backing vocals (alongside Susannah Melvoin), but that claim appears to have been more recently discredited. Still, no official attribution regarding the participants has yet been provided, nor has an authoritative source come forward.

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imprimis said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Yeah, she was around I guess, but I meant more in his music. I don't, off hand, recall her being on credits for anything on Parade or SOTT, was more my point.

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Draw your own inferences for how frequently or intensely JJ was in P's hair or music during rougly this time period:

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(Not an Exhaustive List):

May 10, 1985


[snip]


I appreciate your efforts, but I know that. My statement was her involvement in 1986/1987 (which is sort of where you list ended). I know she was around and in things before that.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #21 posted 12/02/16 6:38pm

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Goddman you guys

its fucking Jill Jones and Prince

please dont listen to The Walk or the beginning of Chili Sauce

your heads will explode

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Reply #22 posted 12/02/16 6:53pm

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imprimis said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Yeah, she was around I guess, but I meant more in his music. I don't, off hand, recall her being on credits for anything on Parade or SOTT, was more my point.

.

Draw your own inferences for how frequently or intensely JJ was in P's hair or music during rougly this time period:

.

(Not an Exhaustive List):

____________________________________________________

May 10, 1985

  • My Man (Lead and Backing Vocals)

May XX, 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • I Guess It’s All Over (Backing Vocals, Mazarati Album; Vocals re-written by Prince; work on all three projects occurring simultaneously in neighboring studios at Sunset Sound; David Z common co-producer/engineer between Mazarati and JJ)
  • Strawberry Lover (Backing Vocals, Mazarati Album; Vocals re-written by Prince; work on all three projects occurring simultaneously in neighboring studios at Sunset Sound; David Z common co-producer/engineer between Mazarati and JJ)

May 24, 1985

  • Hello (Backing Vocals, B-Side to ‘Pop Life’)

May 26, 1985

  • Come Elektra Tuesday (Backing Vocals)

May 29, 1985

  • Killin’ Time at the Soda Shop (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)
  • Married Man (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)

May 30, 1985

  • For Love (Lead and Backing Vocals)

June 2 ,1985

  • Living Doll (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)

Summer 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unkown)

  • Boom, Boom (Can't U Feel the Beat of My Heart) (V6 outtake, Outtake to first JJ album, further work in 1989 for aborted second JJ album)
  • My Baby Knows (V6 outtake, Outtake to first JJ album, further work in 1989 for aborted second JJ album)

Late 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Kiss 12” Single Remix (Additional Vocals at the End

January XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Baby, You’re a Trip (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • G-Spot (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • Mia Bocca (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • With You (Lead and Backing Vocals)

February 17, 1986

  • Euphoria Highway (Miscellaneous Vocal Work, JJ album outttake)

March 27, 1986

  • Movie Star (?) (Some Sources Indicate Susannah Melvoin, Miscellaneous Vocal Work)

May XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • If I Could Get Your Attention (Lead and Backing Vocals)

July XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown

  • All Day, All Night (Lead and Backing Vocals)

August XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • My Sex (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)

Summer 1986 (Specific Recoding Dates)

  • 77 Bleeker St (Lead and Backing Vocals, B-Side to ‘Mia Bocca’, Overdub Work by Prince in January 1987)

September XX,1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Superfunkycalifragisexy (?) (Additional Vocals, Uncredited; Some sources claim Susannah Melvoin)

October 11, 1986

  • Violet Blue (Lead and Backing Vocals)

October 30, 1986

  • Good Love (Backing Vocals, Uncredited)

November 22, 1986

  • It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night (Overdubbed Backing Vocals)

Early/Mid 1987 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • For Lust (Co-Lead and Backing Vocals, Outtake to first and/or aborted second JJ album, additional mixing and Clare Fischer overdubbing in Late 1987/Early 1988)

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Rumors of a Jill Jones 1986 vocal version of 'Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me?', uncredited backing vocal work on 'Feel U Up' (1986); 'Stella and Charles' (May 26, 1985) and 'Zebra with the Blonde Hair' (May 29, 1986) have been speculated to be (at a minimum) instrumentals recorded for potential use on the first JJ album.

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[Edited 12/2/16 17:05pm]

Great list thumbs up! Also Jill is featured on Vanity 6's classic Vibrator (1983) "OMG, look at the size of that thing" lol nuts

[Edited 12/2/16 18:58pm]

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #23 posted 12/02/16 8:24pm

ladygirl99

OldFriends4Sale said:

That is Jill Jones on the extended version (talking and singing)

Yeah that sounds like Jill. I was listening to Movie Star (with Susannah) and Kiss extended version and the female voices are so different. So yeah I knew it was Jill on the Kiss but when someone said it was Susannah I have to hear those two songs.

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Reply #24 posted 12/02/16 8:31pm

ladygirl99

imprimis said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Yeah, she was around I guess, but I meant more in his music. I don't, off hand, recall her being on credits for anything on Parade or SOTT, was more my point.

.

Draw your own inferences for how frequently or intensely JJ was in P's hair or music during rougly this time period:

.

(Not an Exhaustive List):

____________________________________________________

May 10, 1985

  • My Man (Lead and Backing Vocals)

May XX, 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • I Guess It’s All Over (Backing Vocals, Mazarati Album; Vocals re-written by Prince; work on all three projects occurring simultaneously in neighboring studios at Sunset Sound; David Z common co-producer/engineer between Mazarati and JJ)
  • Strawberry Lover (Backing Vocals, Mazarati Album; Vocals re-written by Prince; work on all three projects occurring simultaneously in neighboring studios at Sunset Sound; David Z common co-producer/engineer between Mazarati and JJ)

May 24, 1985

  • Hello (Backing Vocals, B-Side to ‘Pop Life’)

May 26, 1985

  • Come Elektra Tuesday (Backing Vocals)

May 29, 1985

  • Killin’ Time at the Soda Shop (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)
  • Married Man (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)

May 30, 1985

  • For Love (Lead and Backing Vocals)

June 2 ,1985

  • Living Doll (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)

Summer 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unkown)

  • Boom, Boom (Can't U Feel the Beat of My Heart) (V6 outtake, Outtake to first JJ album, further work in 1989 for aborted second JJ album)
  • My Baby Knows (V6 outtake, Outtake to first JJ album, further work in 1989 for aborted second JJ album)

Late 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Kiss 12” Single Remix (Additional Vocals at the End

January XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Baby, You’re a Trip (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • G-Spot (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • Mia Bocca (Lead and Backing Vocals)
  • With You (Lead and Backing Vocals)

February 17, 1986

  • Euphoria Highway (Miscellaneous Vocal Work, JJ album outttake)

March 27, 1986

  • Movie Star (?) (Some Sources Indicate Susannah Melvoin, Miscellaneous Vocal Work)

May XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • If I Could Get Your Attention (Lead and Backing Vocals)

July XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown

  • All Day, All Night (Lead and Backing Vocals)

August XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • My Sex (Lead and Backing Vocals, Unreleased JJ Album Track)

Summer 1986 (Specific Recoding Dates)

  • 77 Bleeker St (Lead and Backing Vocals, B-Side to ‘Mia Bocca’, Overdub Work by Prince in January 1987)

September XX,1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • Superfunkycalifragisexy (?) (Additional Vocals, Uncredited; Some sources claim Susannah Melvoin)

October 11, 1986

  • Violet Blue (Lead and Backing Vocals)

October 30, 1986

  • Good Love (Backing Vocals, Uncredited)

November 22, 1986

  • It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night (Overdubbed Backing Vocals)

Early/Mid 1987 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)

  • For Lust (Co-Lead and Backing Vocals, Outtake to first and/or aborted second JJ album, additional mixing and Clare Fischer overdubbing in Late 1987/Early 1988)

__________________

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Rumors of a Jill Jones 1986 vocal version of 'Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me?', uncredited backing vocal work on 'Feel U Up' (1986); 'Stella and Charles' (May 26, 1985) and 'Zebra with the Blonde Hair' (May 29, 1986) have been speculated to be (at a minimum) instrumentals recorded for potential use on the first JJ album.

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Wow thanks

That also explained why she was super pissed with that Facebook comment she made about feeling excluding from some of Prince's 80s associates and proteges. She sung over the female weakness in almost every track.

Jill need to write a book.

Zebra with the Blonde Hair definately was about Wannabe Marlyn Monroe Jill and her biracial ancestry.

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Reply #25 posted 12/02/16 8:45pm

EddieC

TrivialPursuit said:

imprimis said:

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Draw your own inferences for how frequently or intensely JJ was in P's hair or music during rougly this time period:

.

(Not an Exhaustive List):

May 10, 1985


[snip]


I appreciate your efforts, but I know that. My statement was her involvement in 1986/1987 (which is sort of where you list ended). I know she was around and in things before that.

The list began in 85, is about half in 86, and ends in 87. So, if you're interested in 1986/1987, there it is. It's not about before that. (and yeah, I know imprimis could respond, but that just seemed like a silly complaint in response to someone actually providing what it seems like had been asked for). But since the discussion in this thread is about the extended version of Kiss, which was probably remixed (as the list said) in late 85 (or at the latest very very early 86) what on earth does Sign o the Times have to do with anything--especially since the as-released album is largely a break from anything involving much of anybody from the old scene (beyond some horns)--Prince dropped most people's contributions as he dropped the Dream Factory tracks. Heck, I had the 12'' of Kiss on my record player before most of the recordings on this list even happened--so maybe the list could be faulted for covering material that's too late to be relevant? It's almost like questioning whether Rosie's on Daddy Pop because she wasn't on featured on Come--so it must be Mayte. Or maybe Tony. Keep up, man. smile

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Reply #26 posted 12/02/16 11:25pm

PeteSilas

i read somewhere that it was dr. fink's mom and i think the dad is prince. don't know it for a fact though, the voice does sound new york jewish.

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Reply #27 posted 12/03/16 4:07am

Rimshottbob

I don't know about the woman - I'd always assumed it was Jill, but how anyone can listen to that male voice and not know that it's Prince, 2000%, I just do not understand.

Of course, it's Prince. Listen to the male voice. It's easy to tell, because, errrrrrr, that's Prince's voice.

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Reply #28 posted 12/03/16 4:49am

imprimis

TrivialPursuit said:

imprimis said:

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Draw your own inferences for how frequently or intensely JJ was in P's hair or music during rougly this time period:

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May 10, 1985


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I appreciate your efforts, but I know that. My statement was her involvement in 1986/1987 (which is sort of where you list ended). I know she was around and in things before that.

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Around approximately mid/late July 1986, he increasingly distanced himself from other contributors in general (he uses mostly Susannah Melvoin, Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss to embellish his own album material, where desired or as necessary, from this point forward, until the time Susannah moved out of the Galpin Blvd house for good in January 1987, at which point Cat/Bonnie/Sheila enter as visible contributors)

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Revolution Frees Lisa And Wendy

September 13, 1987 | DENNIS HUNT

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"There was one obvious indication that Prince was about to make some kind of change. "He had been working more on his own than usual," Coleman said about the recording sessions last year for Prince's latest album, "Sign 'O' the Times." "We weren't with him in the studio as much."

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Yes, this is all information that virtually everyone here knows.

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However, at the same time, and regardless, it doesn't seem as though Jill was featured on any released album of his own, aside from '1999', 'Automatic', 'Free', and 'Lady Cab Driver' on 1999, and a credited backing vocal attribution on 'It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night' on SOTT. (I am excluding B-Side, outtake, protege, and remix appearances)

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If you were to use her presence on his albums, from his career prior to 1991, to gauge the familiarity of their relationship, or her intersection with his work, they'd seem nearly to be strangers.

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Reply #29 posted 12/04/16 5:34pm

djThunderfunk

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heymistermusic said:

Transformed1 said:

Seinfeld went on the air in 1989. Kiss was 1986. but I see your point



oh my, you're correct, there's no way Sienfeld was on the air in '86. Any idea who the MALE voice is? They make a great married couple! Haha!


Actually, Frank & Estelle Castanza didn't debut on Seinfeld until several years later, like '93 or so.
So, timing seems WAY off here...

Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'...
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