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Reply #30 posted 11/28/16 1:32pm

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Music was always a crutch for Prince.

When he was sad, he would go into a studio. Even Mayte mentioned this. When they lost their child he dived right into music. She and Maunella both had to put him in music rehab because he didn't know when to stop.

Prince once said he dreams music all the time and that it can sometimes be a curse. Because he can't always turn it off.

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Reply #31 posted 11/28/16 7:05pm

214

Nothing to say sadly, but so interesting, thanks.

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Reply #32 posted 11/28/16 9:08pm

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214 said:

Nothing to say sadly, but so interesting, thanks.

same. i have enjoyed reading this.

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Reply #33 posted 12/01/16 12:59am

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This was an interesting read. I too have wondered if his music became obsession or a that it got in the way of his relationships with women. There is a interview done by a Canadian music Channel in Toronto in which he states that he was going to take a break from writing music. His exact words was...I am going into music writing rehab. He said he was going to spend time with his wife . That was Manuela at the time. To me it said that his prolific writing was getting in the way of human relationships. I felt as though he tried and when he got hurt he would go back to old faithful. Music. I also noticed in his early interviews he was expressive , funny, andcomfortable. I think that around this time he was living asomewhat balanced life. But in his later years he went more into himself and eventually talked less and it seemed like he was hurting when he talked. When I think back on it now, in his early years he was a happier person and showed thru his relationships and expressed it thru fashion and daring moves...later on he went into a different look or gone back to the look he had when he was 15 years old. It's like he had done everything he wanted and needed too and he was coasting in a way one thing that really hurts is that he had no kids and no partner. Someone evensaid that he was celebrant. Maybe he stopped feeling...sex to him was god given and spiritual experience. It was interesting that Matye said he divorced her and she didn't divorce him. Manuela left him and in a statement thru his attorney he said he didn't want the separation. I wish he had someone andeven kids because he would have been forced to live outside of music and perhaps perhaps he would still be here. I feel his music stems from his desire to be close to his parents...as they were both into music. Even though he had a strained relationship with his parents periodically in his life...music was his nurturer , learned from music the skills he needed to live his life. He said it himself...I am music. In t
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Reply #34 posted 12/01/16 1:11am

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daingermouz2020 said:

anangellooksdown said:

I think he had so much to protect (people relying on him to feed their families, his music and never-ending chess game with WB, never mind his body from overly-aggressive fans) that he had to be as safe and protected as possible. He must've had to accept that this was his life.

But I know what you mean. There's an old video of him on stage doing a brushing teeth motion that's comical and I always think when he see him doing it, "Prince does that too? Like us?"

I think he was incredibly strong while also vulnerable and teachable. A lot of very nasty and damaging things were said about him by certain people over the years but he didn't age one bit over it. Never fed into it. If he didn't have a very powerful solution for faith, courage and strength, it would've shown on his face.

The makeup was something he liked, I think.

He certainly did seem to pull inspiration from those around him and young people are great for that since life hasn't piled up on them yet. I think he meant it when he said on Arsenio that he likes to learn as much as teach.

I think he just became used to his life being so private but I also think he had more meaningful relationships than most of us. But maybe that's better. He did say he chose to create his own world then bring into it who should be there. Did this begin in childhood when he says he "went into himself"? Or was it a continuation of that? Probably or maybe, and as you say he opened up with time.


I don't recall too many negative damaging things being said about Prince over the years.


That's because he ignored it and just kept doing his thing, showing up for us and keeping his focus on music.
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Reply #35 posted 12/01/16 1:40am

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Talent and genius don't exist. It's all hard work. Now that we've got that out of the way, the answer it yes. He had very little going on upstairs outside of music and music-related matters. That's why his jumbled spiritual and politic announcements were always so comical.

The first part of this is nonsense I'm afraid. A person who is tone deaf and has no rhythm can work as hard as he likes, he will never produce anything of musical merit. Talent very much exists, and must very much be realised and harnessed and put to work by its owner...... Genuis isn't something you are, it's something you experience, it's temporal, a place where talent, hard work, inspiration and just plain old good fortune come together. It is usually, by it's very nature, short-lived.

Now that we've got that out of the way, the conversation can continue.

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Reply #36 posted 12/01/16 10:12am

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Well, parts of his childhood were crappy, moving from house to house, so music was an escape. Once you're living the life of a rock star, you get used to being in charge and being the boss. I'm sure him wanting to be in control and not having any real lasting relationships are the result of having abandoment issues from his childhood. In public at least, he seemed happiest with Mayte, but the marriage fell apart due to their baby dying. I am sure the religious conversion shortly after was a reponse to the grief he felt.

Even though the symbol years were partly for business reasons, it did seem to bring out a more "open" Prince, socially. He appeared on TV, did interviews on TV, did the Muppet show and he seemed less shy and withdrawn.

He was a complicated guy just like anyone else. His Paisley Park estate indulged that shy and withdrawn side of him, but it did allow his genuis to flourish. He also held parties there so he could see more of his fans, showing there there are two sides to the reclusive rock star genius.

He must have felt lonely at times, and it is very sad, that he died alone without any significant other, But, his genuis and purpose was creating music and am sure when he was feeling down, the music was always there.

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Reply #37 posted 12/01/16 10:39am

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It wasn't a crutch. It was his life.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #38 posted 12/01/16 2:11pm

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Genesia said:

It wasn't a crutch. It was his life.

You might be right here, after all it was just His Life. Some get married and live forever happy, some others don't, With money to spend,Some of us were born For races to win, Some of us are aware
That it's good for us to care,Some of us feel the icy wind Of poverty blowing in the air.

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Reply #39 posted 12/06/16 8:20pm

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purplerabbithole said:


That's not exactly what I meant. I do think he was coming more and more out of his shell and had been for years. But the shell was still there and when he retreated back into it, that is when relationships ended. It was still a very structured life and I imagine even his comings and goings in Minnesota were like that. (in his defense, he was a famous man so they would probably have to be)



Remember, this man died alone with very few people knowing he even had a serious drug problem. It is not even surprising that his pain pills were hidden in vitamin c and aleve bottles. He was a secretative man even around people who probably had to sign confidentiality agreements.





darkroman said:


I don't think so at all.


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Lately I've been watching loads of live clips from 2012 - 2015 and he was kicking back, going with the flow and really enjoying himself.


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Similarly, his recordings from 2014 - 2016 shows he was exploring and reinterpretting his old work and experiementing with his new work.


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So that doesn't seem like someone who is crippled by their art.


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lol lol lol




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Ithink Chaka Khan said he was getting more paranoid and yet more relaxed as he aged.Idont remember where i read/heard this




Yes. In December's GQ Magazine, Chaka Kham says that "he seemed to get a little more paranoid on one hand, and on the other hand he became more of a human being. He became more humane. You get older and wiser and you see the commonology of man, how we are all intertwined, all the same. It seems liked he'd come to that sort of recognition in life. I was happy to see that."

Paranoia is just a dress that fear wears. He was afraid. In a certain way. I've always maintained that.
Control is also based on fear. Fear of losing control.
With the family situation he had as a kid, he was left with more fear than some and less than others - but a good amount of it.
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