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Reply #180 posted 11/23/16 2:44am

oliviacamron

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803 said:

What are you typing into the search function? I typed Syracuse live and it didn't come up. Then I added Prince and it still doesn't come up..

Had the same problem. Tidal is stupid. Did you go into the Tidal shop? You have to buY it for like $14.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #181 posted 11/23/16 10:01am

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oliviacamron said:

803 said:
What are you typing into the search function? I typed Syracuse live and it didn't come up. Then I added Prince and it still doesn't come up..
Had the same problem. Tidal is stupid. Did you go into the Tidal shop? You have to buY it for like $14.

Why would you want to buy it. It is a bootleg.

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Reply #182 posted 11/24/16 5:46am

zenarose

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-05-28/why-jay-z-s-tidal-streaming-music-service-has-been-a-disaster

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Reply #183 posted 11/24/16 7:56am

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zenarose said:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-05-28/why-jay-z-s-tidal-streaming-music-service-has-been-a-disaster

Why is everybody in the business world so interested in seeing this guy fail. That is a question that really needs to be answered. This article was from last year yet the service is still up and running.

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Reply #184 posted 11/24/16 8:10am

Ingela

Look both Apple, all Android devices, Amazon all have their music apps pre-intalled in all their devices. They have that advantage plus the infringement and the deep pockets to lose millions upon millions.....and they still can barely get a fraction of users as Spotify.

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Jay Z is probably a great business man but this is a difficult business. Spotify had the benefit of being one the first and best services, while the record companies were happy with the old Apple model of selling a song for .99 cents.
Even a company like Apple fell asleep at the wheel and was lulled by its own little monopoly. Apple is now scrambling to make up for lost time with the introduction and 3 free month promotion of its own streaming service but like I said it only has a fraction of the customers Spotify has.

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Its a difficult business to be in right now and wish Jay Z all the best, but like most people I'm happy with Spotify and don't plan on switching. Having Prince as an exclusive is great for them but as a huge Prince fan I've had all that music to stream already. I use Spotify to find new artist and music that I might otherwise not have explored. And as a music lover, that's what it's all about. Like being a kid in a candy store able to taste all the candies you want.
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Reply #185 posted 11/24/16 9:00am

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Ingela said:

Look both Apple, all Android devices, Amazon all have their music apps pre-intalled in all their devices. They have that advantage plus the infringement and the deep pockets to lose millions upon millions.....and they still can barely get a fraction of users as Spotify. . Jay Z is probably a great business man but this is a difficult business. Spotify had the benefit of being one the first and best services, while the record companies were happy with the old Apple model of selling a song for .99 cents. Even a company like Apple fell asleep at the wheel and was lulled by its own little monopoly. Apple is now scrambling to make up for lost time with the introduction and 3 free month promotion of its own streaming service but like I said it only has a fraction of the customers Spotify has. . Its a difficult business to be in right now and wish Jay Z all the best, but like most people I'm happy with Spotify and don't plan on switching. Having Prince as an exclusive is great for them but as a huge Prince fan I've had all that music to stream already. I use Spotify to find new artist and music that I might otherwise not have explored. And as a music lover, that's what it's all about. Like being a kid in a candy store able to taste all the candies you want.

Podcast about Tidal and the lawsuit

http://podcastjuice.net/category/shows/the-prince-podcast/.

They have an attorney that gives some good insight.

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Reply #186 posted 11/26/16 5:21pm

mjscarousal

laurarichardson said:

zenarose said:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-05-28/why-jay-z-s-tidal-streaming-music-service-has-been-a-disaster

Why is everybody in the business world so interested in seeing this guy fail. That is a question that really needs to be answered. This article was from last year yet the service is still up and running.

Because he is a crook and he has screwed over a lot of people. I don't think people want to see him fall but more so see him get exposed. He is full shit.

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Reply #187 posted 11/26/16 5:23pm

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mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

Why is everybody in the business world so interested in seeing this guy fail. That is a question that really needs to be answered. This article was from last year yet the service is still up and running.

Because he is a crook and he has screwed over a lot of people. I don't think people want to see him fall but more so see him get exposed. He is full shit.

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yeahthat

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Reply #188 posted 11/26/16 7:21pm

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mjscarousal said:



laurarichardson said:




zenarose said:


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-05-28/why-jay-z-s-tidal-streaming-music-service-has-been-a-disaster



Why is everybody in the business world so interested in seeing this guy fail. That is a question that really needs to be answered. This article was from last year yet the service is still up and running.



Because he is a crook and he has screwed over a lot of people. I don't think people want to see him fall but more so see him get exposed. He is full shit.


-- Well he has been exposed according to those articles but nothing changes. The lawsuit that was filed by Breamer has a court order to removed the content but nothing has been removed how does Jay-z best a court order. I am sorry guys Tidal must have some written agreement and must have sent some payment. I am sorry but Prince wanted his music Tidal and anyone who thinks he sent files with out getting money up front is losing it. How in the world did Jay-z get the files from as you know he was sending them while Prince was alive. I think Breamer has no idea where the funds went to it does not mean he was not paid.
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Reply #189 posted 11/26/16 8:40pm

rogifan

I see people on Facebook reporting some albums now missing from Tidal, specifically Emancipation and 3121. The Estate really needs to get this sorted. Priority #1 should be making ALL of his music available for purchase on all platforms. I know he had a lot of different relationships after WB but that's what people like Londell get paid the big bucks for. Get it sorted already.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #190 posted 11/26/16 10:08pm

mjscarousal

laurarichardson said:

mjscarousal said:

Because he is a crook and he has screwed over a lot of people. I don't think people want to see him fall but more so see him get exposed. He is full shit.

-- Well he has been exposed according to those articles but nothing changes. The lawsuit that was filed by Breamer has a court order to removed the content but nothing has been removed how does Jay-z best a court order. I am sorry guys Tidal must have some written agreement and must have sent some payment. I am sorry but Prince wanted his music Tidal and anyone who thinks he sent files with out getting money up front is losing it. How in the world did Jay-z get the files from as you know he was sending them while Prince was alive. I think Breamer has no idea where the funds went to it does not mean he was not paid.

These things are not as simple and cut and dry as they might appear. I heard some of his albums have been removed so they are probably still working on it Where is the written agreement? Nothing has been proven yet that there is a written agreement. I am not believing a word until I see a receipt and until then I hope the Estate continues to fight Tidal. Also, Tidal was not paying multiple artists a couple artists sued so it wasn't just Prince.

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Reply #191 posted 11/27/16 9:49am

XxAxX

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oliviacamron said:

mnfriend said: Is it confirmed he went to Switzerland? I keep hearing about it but was there any proof? I remember the very first time I heard xxx went on vacation after the death, I said aloud to myself in a joking way " where Switzerland to open a Swiss bank account" . Now I actually keep hearing he really went there.

who is xxx?



sad awwww. this feeds my fantasy that prince is alive, seeking treatment away from the public eye. switzerland is known not only for its banking system, but also for its clinics

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Reply #192 posted 11/27/16 9:49am

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cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, I read about that story about Kanye -- he was so pissed at JayZ. I also read that Tidal owes a lot of money to people, and now they are being sued by Prince's estate....so, maybe its ADIOS for Tidal!! wave

Maybe that was what Kanye's rant was about this weekend with JayZ. He said JayZ had killers.




dang. i'm as paranoid as yeezy, because this is what i thought when i read yeezy had said that...

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Reply #193 posted 11/27/16 12:08pm

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XxAxX said:

TheEnglishGent said:

who is xxx?



sad awwww. this feeds my fantasy that prince is alive, seeking treatment away from the public eye. switzerland is known not only for its banking system, but also for its clinics

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Wouldn't that be wonderful if he was still alive and well? biggrin

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #194 posted 11/27/16 12:11pm

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XxAxX said:

PennyPurple said:

Maybe that was what Kanye's rant was about this weekend with JayZ. He said JayZ had killers.




dang. i'm as paranoid as yeezy, because this is what i thought when i read yeezy had said that...

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Kanye West said: “Jay Z—call me, bruh. You still ain’t called me. Jay Z, I know you got killers. Please don’t send them at my head. Please call me. Talk to me like a man.”

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Now, that didn't come from us!! eek

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #195 posted 11/27/16 12:33pm

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mjscarousal said:



laurarichardson said:


mjscarousal said:


Because he is a crook and he has screwed over a lot of people. I don't think people want to see him fall but more so see him get exposed. He is full shit.



-- Well he has been exposed according to those articles but nothing changes. The lawsuit that was filed by Breamer has a court order to removed the content but nothing has been removed how does Jay-z best a court order. I am sorry guys Tidal must have some written agreement and must have sent some payment. I am sorry but Prince wanted his music Tidal and anyone who thinks he sent files with out getting money up front is losing it. How in the world did Jay-z get the files from as you know he was sending them while Prince was alive. I think Breamer has no idea where the funds went to it does not mean he was not paid.

These things are not as simple and cut and dry as they might appear. I heard some of his albums have been removed so they are probably still working on it Where is the written agreement? Nothing has been proven yet that there is a written agreement. I am not believing a word until I see a receipt and until then I hope the Estate continues to fight Tidal. Also, Tidal was not paying multiple artists a couple artists sued so it wasn't just Prince.


-- The search area is wacky so I really don't think any music is gone. When you get a court it means all not some. We now are going into the two week mark. Also other artist may sued but Prince was speaking highly of Tidal the whole time he was alive and sent music a few days before he passed. You will also notice in the court docs that you do not see a lot of debts that Prince owed and only Tidal being gone after for a outstanding debt. Prince got his money up front from everyone.
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Reply #196 posted 11/27/16 3:02pm

mjscarousal

laurarichardson said:

mjscarousal said:

These things are not as simple and cut and dry as they might appear. I heard some of his albums have been removed so they are probably still working on it Where is the written agreement? Nothing has been proven yet that there is a written agreement. I am not believing a word until I see a receipt and until then I hope the Estate continues to fight Tidal. Also, Tidal was not paying multiple artists a couple artists sued so it wasn't just Prince.

-- The search area is wacky so I really don't think any music is gone. When you get a court it means all not some. We now are going into the two week mark. Also other artist may sued but Prince was speaking highly of Tidal the whole time he was alive and sent music a few days before he passed. You will also notice in the court docs that you do not see a lot of debts that Prince owed and only Tidal being gone after for a outstanding debt. Prince got his money up front from everyone.

Multiple people have reported that some of the albums are gone. I don't have Tidal so I don't know for certain but this is based off of what multiple fans have said. Regardless of what Prince said, we still don't know the specifics of his agreement with TIDAL. For example, just because he might have given Tidal permission to stream his music this year doesn't mean he gave TIDAL the permanent authority to stream forever. I am sure there was a time limit to it and that is what some of us are questioning.

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Reply #197 posted 11/27/16 6:24pm

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mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

mjscarousal said: -- The search area is wacky so I really don't think any music is gone. When you get a court it means all not some. We now are going into the two week mark. Also other artist may sued but Prince was speaking highly of Tidal the whole time he was alive and sent music a few days before he passed. You will also notice in the court docs that you do not see a lot of debts that Prince owed and only Tidal being gone after for a outstanding debt. Prince got his money up front from everyone.

Multiple people have reported that some of the albums are gone. I don't have Tidal so I don't know for certain but this is based off of what multiple fans have said. Regardless of what Prince said, we still don't know the specifics of his agreement with TIDAL. For example, just because he might have given Tidal permission to stream his music this year doesn't mean he gave TIDAL the permanent authority to stream forever. I am sure there was a time limit to it and that is what some of us are questioning.

I'm a Tidal member and the albums Emacipation and 3121 are gone..if you click on a deleted track you get a message saying the record label does not permit streaming of this track. There is still a lot of Prince music on Tidal that's available. That is why I joined. All I want is to be able to listen to and purchase Prince music..I don't mind paying a membership, I'm all for supporting the artisit..I don't care who's involved in the dispute, all I want is for them to work this out..I want my Prince music!!!! In the meantime, people can purchase the albums and download them..except for Emancipation and 3121..so that's what I'll do...I buy as many as I can. They're not terribly expensive..Chocolate Invasion was $9. Altogether, there are 44 Prince albums.

[Edited 11/27/16 18:32pm]

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Yes, this is a prettyman, Princey!
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Reply #198 posted 11/27/16 7:42pm

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mjscarousal said:



laurarichardson said:


mjscarousal said:


These things are not as simple and cut and dry as they might appear. I heard some of his albums have been removed so they are probably still working on it Where is the written agreement? Nothing has been proven yet that there is a written agreement. I am not believing a word until I see a receipt and until then I hope the Estate continues to fight Tidal. Also, Tidal was not paying multiple artists a couple artists sued so it wasn't just Prince.



-- The search area is wacky so I really don't think any music is gone. When you get a court it means all not some. We now are going into the two week mark. Also other artist may sued but Prince was speaking highly of Tidal the whole time he was alive and sent music a few days before he passed. You will also notice in the court docs that you do not see a lot of debts that Prince owed and only Tidal being gone after for a outstanding debt. Prince got his money up front from everyone.


Multiple people have reported that some of the albums are gone. I don't have Tidal so I don't know for certain but this is based off of what multiple fans have said. Regardless of what Prince said, we still don't know the specifics of his agreement with TIDAL. For example, just because he might have given Tidal permission to stream his music this year doesn't mean he gave TIDAL the permanent authority to stream forever. I am sure there was a time limit to it and that is what some of us are questioning.


--I belong to Tidal those two are not there today but titles have disappeared before and returned and their search engine is terrible. Please go to the Carver County website a read Tidal claim. They are saying they have a five years agreement and ninety days exclusivity. Go read the court docs and explain why all of the music has not been removed even 5
4ever is on Tidal.
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Reply #199 posted 11/27/16 8:59pm

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Its been over a day and 3121 and Emancipation is still missing. I dont think its an error.....
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Reply #200 posted 11/27/16 9:06pm

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beautyunaffected said:

Its been over a day and 3121 and Emancipation is still missing. I dont think its an error.....
Last night
I added everything else Prince has on Tidal to my offline playlist. Once you download them to your offline playlist, they won't go away. I still have Emancipation, I never had 3121 to my offline list so I don't have it anymore
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #201 posted 11/27/16 9:07pm

mjscarousal

ldmendes said:

mjscarousal said:

Multiple people have reported that some of the albums are gone. I don't have Tidal so I don't know for certain but this is based off of what multiple fans have said. Regardless of what Prince said, we still don't know the specifics of his agreement with TIDAL. For example, just because he might have given Tidal permission to stream his music this year doesn't mean he gave TIDAL the permanent authority to stream forever. I am sure there was a time limit to it and that is what some of us are questioning.

I'm a Tidal member and the albums Emacipation and 3121 are gone..if you click on a deleted track you get a message saying the record label does not permit streaming of this track. There is still a lot of Prince music on Tidal that's available. That is why I joined. All I want is to be able to listen to and purchase Prince music..I don't mind paying a membership, I'm all for supporting the artisit..I don't care who's involved in the dispute, all I want is for them to work this out..I want my Prince music!!!! In the meantime, people can purchase the albums and download them..except for Emancipation and 3121..so that's what I'll do...I buy as many as I can. They're not terribly expensive..Chocolate Invasion was $9. Altogether, there are 44 Prince albums.

[Edited 11/27/16 18:32pm]

That means something in the milk ain't clean. If they were there, why are they now gone? That is why I said there must be more things going on behind the scenes. If TIDAL had permission to stream all his music, IMO those albums would still be there.

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Reply #202 posted 11/28/16 4:36am

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oliviacamron said:

beautyunaffected said:

Its been over a day and 3121 and Emancipation is still missing. I dont think its an error.....
Last night
I added everything else Prince has on Tidal to my offline playlist. Once you download them to your offline playlist, they won't go away. I still have Emancipation, I never had 3121 to my offline list so I don't have it anymore


This isn't true. I for one had 3121 on my offline playlist and its still not working.
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Reply #203 posted 11/28/16 10:05am

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mjscarousal said:

ldmendes said:

I'm a Tidal member and the albums Emacipation and 3121 are gone..if you click on a deleted track you get a message saying the record label does not permit streaming of this track. There is still a lot of Prince music on Tidal that's available. That is why I joined. All I want is to be able to listen to and purchase Prince music..I don't mind paying a membership, I'm all for supporting the artisit..I don't care who's involved in the dispute, all I want is for them to work this out..I want my Prince music!!!! In the meantime, people can purchase the albums and download them..except for Emancipation and 3121..so that's what I'll do...I buy as many as I can. They're not terribly expensive..Chocolate Invasion was $9. Altogether, there are 44 Prince albums.

[Edited 11/27/16 18:32pm]

That means something in the milk ain't clean. If they were there, why are they now gone? That is why I said there must be more things going on behind the scenes. If TIDAL had permission to stream all his music, IMO those albums would still be there.

Two are gone what about the rest of the catalogue.

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Reply #204 posted 11/28/16 9:34pm

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beautyunaffected said:

oliviacamron said:

Last night
I added everything else Prince has on Tidal to my offline playlist. Once you download them to your offline playlist, they won't go away. I still have Emancipation, I never had 3121 to my offline list so I don't have it anymore


This isn't true. I for one had 3121 on my offline playlist and its still not working.

Oh. I wonder why some still work and some dont
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #205 posted 11/29/16 11:57am

Ingela

Any of you folks still on Tidal, I would start looking at other options. Tidal is not long for this world. I don't see any knight in shining armor anywhere on the horizon to come save it. It's the living dead.

Much respect to what Jaz Z tried to do. He had the balls to tackle it, hopefully he can find a buyer to salvage parts of it and not lose his shirt over it. I wish him all the best. But things don't look good.
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Reply #206 posted 11/29/16 1:54pm

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I just read on another thread that all the bootlegs were taken down.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #207 posted 11/29/16 6:10pm

zenarose

I got an email today from Tidal.

Notice of Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy Updates

Did anyone else receive notice today??
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Reply #208 posted 11/29/16 6:25pm

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zenarose said:

I got an email today from Tidal.

Notice of Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy Updates

Did anyone else receive notice today??


Yes. It is unrelated to anything to do with Prince.
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Reply #209 posted 11/29/16 6:40pm

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TwiliteKid said:

zenarose said:

I got an email today from Tidal.

Notice of Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy Updates

Did anyone else receive notice today??


Yes. It wis unrelated to anything to do with Prince.

How is it unrelated? I think it could be related to the lawsuitS .
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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