Sounds like bull, do you really think Prince would give his masters to Tidal, just after he thought to get them back off Warner Brothers. Looks like a really gossipy and shitty website too.

Adorecream said:

Sounds like bull, do you really think Prince would give his masters to Tidal, just after he thought to get them back off Warner Brothers. Looks like a really gossipy and shitty website too.

Having "rights to his catalog" does NOT mean ownership of the masters. Tidal is probably claiming that they have rights for the digital distribution of whatever is released from Prince's catalog. It's not impossible that Prince has made such a promise to them.

it probably is exactly what is says on the tin:

they have exclusive streaming rights -for now anyway. depends on what kind of deal they had with
prince. the estate just put the licensing under universal and the masters are owned by the estate.

or by warners for those albums released by them under the old contract in so far as they may not
have reverted back to prince yet.

they were in talks or prince promised them or there is some contract for another hitNrun release,
this time a remix one, plus another new tidal exclusive album.

they just want to make sure that they still get them, if prince did not deliver them to 'm yet, but
the estate has found them amongst his vaulted stuff or on his laptop or such.

or, they already have these items and are making sure everyone is up to date on their deal with
prince and doesn't go trigger happy if and when they decide to put them up on tidal.

just looking out for their own interest, that they get what they were negotiating or had put into a
contract with prince at that time.

JayZ wants his piece of the pie.

Looks like the family isn't too hip on Londell.

Wasn't it HnR1 - There was no planned CD release?

Initially it was suggested that it could be up to a year before the album came out on CD. Which seemed to suggest at the time, some kind of exclusive.

The article only mentions a "legal letter". Surely if any of this was set in stone Tidal would have a contract? Unless P sold Jay a no-contracts just a handshake deal.

Would luuuurvvvv another HitnRun!

Adorecream said:

Noodled24 said:

^ My bad. Seemed like more than a week until the CD came out. There were endless posts on the org about how people wanted CDs.

This is going to be a mess.

I do not believe Prince gave TIDAL the exclusive rights to his catalog or masters. There are no contracts or agreements that states this AND if they are... where are the receipts? A handshake or conversation doesn't count.

Jay Z just wants his dirty hands on Prince catalog and I hope his Estate continues to fight for it.

mjscarousal said:

mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

mjscarousal said:

This is going to be a mess.

I do not believe Prince gave TIDAL the exclusive rights to his catalog or masters. There are no contracts or agreements that states this AND if they are... where are the receipts? A handshake or conversation doesn't count.

Jay Z just wants his dirty hands on Prince catalog and I hope his Estate continues to fight for it.

-- Why do you keep saying masters. This has nothing to do with masters. This has to do exclusive rights to stream on Tidal. That is what Prince wanted and if he signed a deal the court cannot do anything about it. Once the family takes over they can do whatever they wish. If they are happy with the revenue from Tidal what us the problem. If Prince had money in Tidal it is even more ridiculous to take the music off. [Edited 11/5/16 13:38pm]

Well it is unclear if Prince signed a deal saying that he wanted Tidal to permenantly stream his music. Per the below

Another source close to the situation told us that’s wishful thinking — that Tidal only had a one-year deal to stream Prince’s music, and it’s not entitled to rights going forward.

So if infact Prince only gave Tidal the right to stream his music for only a certain time frame, than I think the music should eventually be taken off the service after that time has been fullfilled.That is if there was even a contract.

And lets say hypothetically, there wasn't a contact, how do we even know if Prince was even paid for the streams? There were artists suing the service because they were not getting paid...

mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

mjscarousal said:

Well it is unclear if Prince signed a deal saying that he wanted Tidal to permenantly stream his music. Per the below

Another source close to the situation told us that’s wishful thinking — that Tidal only had a one-year deal to stream Prince’s music, and it’s not entitled to rights going forward.

So if infact Prince only gave Tidal the right to stream his music for only a certain time frame, than I think the music should eventually be taken off the service after that time has been fullfilled.That is if there was even a contract.

And lets say hypothetically, there wasn't a contact, how do we even know if Prince was even paid for the streams? There were artists suing the service because they were not getting paid...

Any deal he signed with Tidal would have a start date and an end date. This would be a part of any contract. I doubt that Tidal would be sending a letter threating an injunction if they did not have something in writting. What in the world would make you think Prince would have signed a deal with Tidal and not have received any money out of it? He was constanly giving praise to the service as well as Jay Z and all of the past albums showed up in June. Who do you think provided the past albums and live clips to Tidal? He was still providing content in the last months of his life and getting a check. It does not matter in the end the family is going to inheriet everything when the probate is over and they seem happy with the Tidal deal so anything the court decideds is only going to be until the probate ends. I also cannot figure out for the life of me where the hatred for this service is coming from. Who would want to get a penny a stream if you could get a dollar?

[Edited 11/6/16 3:56am]

laurarichardson said:

mjscarousal said:

The better question is, why do you adore Jay Z so much?

I have no problems with Tiday if this is the way Prince wanted it to be.

But I wonder how the relationship was in the end, or if the deal changed, because HnR2 is also available for streaming on Apple Music.

mjscarousal said:

I don`t think Prince signed a deal with Tidal...it was more a agreeement and his wish that they had the exclusive rights for streaming...But now -i think it is in the interest of all music fans to have his music on every platform...not on the small tidal streaming service...

And that his albums become available to buy everywhere...

Of course Universal and Warner will not accept any old agreement between Tidal and Prince...

linus4000 said: