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Thread started 10/28/16 11:01am

IstenSzek

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UNITED STATES OF DIVISION - who's on backing vocals?



i just checked princevault but they have no info about other people on the song
except for prince himself.

to me it always sounded like wendy/lisa, especially the bit that goes:

how far from heaven must we go before the wind of change will blow and show..

everybody stop fighting, everybody make love..

maybe i'm just hearing things because i couple the musicology era to the duet
between prince and wendy on "reflection", as performed on tv.

it also seems like the kind of message song that he would ask them for input on,
considering. kinda like 'in this bed eye scream'.

did it every come to light who is on backing?

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Reply #1 posted 10/30/16 7:06am

IstenSzek

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so, no one? smile

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Reply #2 posted 10/30/16 7:52am

dodger

IstenSzek said:

so, no one? smile



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I've just listened on headphones out of pity for your thread... wink
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There is definitely some female vocals in there and you may be right, I guess it could be W&L. Rhonda and Candy were around then so they could be possibities
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Reply #3 posted 10/30/16 8:05am

Guitarhero

dodger said:

IstenSzek said:

so, no one? smile

biggrin I've just listened on headphones out of pity for your thread... wink . There is definitely some female vocals in there and you may be right, I guess it could be W&L. Rhonda and Candy were around then so they could be possibities

I think it's Rhonda too.

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Reply #4 posted 10/30/16 8:58am

thedoorkeeper

UNITED STATES OF DIVISION was recorded in 2004 - why would you think it could be Wendy & Lisa on background vocals?
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Reply #5 posted 10/30/16 9:27am

paulludvig

Prince could recreate that W&L sound with other singers.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #6 posted 10/30/16 10:28am

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thedoorkeeper said:

UNITED STATES OF DIVISION was recorded in 2004 - why would you think it could be Wendy & Lisa on background vocals?


Wendy & Lisa are on the 'Planet Earth' album released in 2007 and Prince performed Reflection live on TV with Wendy in 2004, along with a performance at The Brits with both Wendy & Lisa in 2006.

Given that, I'd say it's quite possible.
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Reply #7 posted 10/30/16 11:10am

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Most likely it's Rhonda because it sounds like her talking on the black,white,straight,gay breakdown or it could be both Rhonda and Candy. I don't know how you could think it's W&L. Any Prince fan would know their voices without a doubt.

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Reply #8 posted 10/30/16 11:32am

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dodger said:

IstenSzek said:

so, no one? smile

biggrin I've just listened on headphones out of pity for your thread... wink . There is definitely some female vocals in there and you may be right, I guess it could be W&L. Rhonda and Candy were around then so they could be possibities


lol bow


rhonda and candy? hmmm sounds about right i think.

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OperatingThetan said:

thedoorkeeper said:
UNITED STATES OF DIVISION was recorded in 2004 - why would you think it could be Wendy & Lisa on background vocals?
Wendy & Lisa are on the 'Planet Earth' album released in 2007 and Prince performed Reflection live on TV with Wendy in 2004, along with a performance at The Brits with both Wendy & Lisa in 2006. Given that, I'd say it's quite possible.


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Reply #10 posted 10/30/16 11:37am

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dbpdexter said:

Most likely it's Rhonda because it sounds like her talking on the black,white,straight,gay breakdown or it could be both Rhonda and Candy. I don't know how you could think it's W&L. Any Prince fan would know their voices without a doubt.


first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones
that are on the background singing vocals.

second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have
worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.

but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan smile i've only been around
since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online. smile

but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan sad


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Reply #11 posted 10/30/16 4:10pm

paulludvig

IstenSzek said:



dbpdexter said:


Most likely it's Rhonda because it sounds like her talking on the black,white,straight,gay breakdown or it could be both Rhonda and Candy. I don't know how you could think it's W&L. Any Prince fan would know their voices without a doubt.





first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones
that are on the background singing vocals.

second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have
worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.

but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan smile i've only been around
since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online. smile

but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan sad




A lot of people thought W&L sang background vocals on Planet Earth based on the sound. Turned out it was The Twins
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The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #12 posted 10/30/16 4:19pm

IstenSzek

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paulludvig said:

IstenSzek said:


first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones
that are on the background singing vocals.

second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have
worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.

but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan smile i've only been around
since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online. smile

but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan sad


A lot of people thought W&L sang background vocals on Planet Earth based on the sound. Turned out it was The Twins biggrin



not true fans, none of them lol boxed

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Reply #13 posted 10/31/16 1:12am

jaypotton

It would be a nice little Easter egg if it was them on USOD. Certainly plausible though why would it be a big secret?

Will have to have a listen (not that my old ears are any better than anyone else's)

On Planet Earth (album) I remember reading that W&L were never in the same studio as Prince. He sent them files/tapes and they added their bits. He gave them free reign to just add what they thought was right.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #14 posted 10/31/16 6:38am

leecaldon

IstenSzek said:

dbpdexter said:

Most likely it's Rhonda because it sounds like her talking on the black,white,straight,gay breakdown or it could be both Rhonda and Candy. I don't know how you could think it's W&L. Any Prince fan would know their voices without a doubt.


first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones
that are on the background singing vocals.

second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have
worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.

but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan smile i've only been around
since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online. smile

but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan sad


I thought it was common knowledge that Wendy was involved in this track - but the only things I can find written about it are from you, IstenSzek, from 2004 and me from 2007!

[Edited 10/31/16 12:35pm]

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leecaldon said:

IstenSzek said:


first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones
that are on the background singing vocals.

second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have
worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.

but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan smile i've only been around
since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online. smile

but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan sad


I thought it was common knowledge that Wendy was involved in this track - but the only things I can find written about it are you from you, IstenSzek, from 2004 and me from 2007!



eek

i've just looked this up and i'm going omfg lol jeez, that was a long time ago.

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