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Thread started 10/23/16 2:41pm

purplerabbitho
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What I can't get over about P's death..

...that he was alone. I guess I obsess over his associates' reactions to his death, because I can't fathom anyone whose main job it is to give pleasure through music ever deserving to die alone. I just hope had these people known about what he was suffering from, that they would have tried to be there for him. Sadly, it might be his fault that he was alone--like he didn't trust that older associates could forgive him for past grievances or newer associates could forgive him for not being as strong as he wanted them to think he was.

My apologies for being bitchy towards his associates this week. But sometimes it feels like despite all the tributes and nice words in his direction that he was still one of the loneliest people on the planet because really, who suffers from drug addiction almost completely alone and in complete silence?

Sorry for the depressing post. I will try to decrease the sad or cynical posts I create from this point on.

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Reply #1 posted 10/23/16 2:45pm

purplecandy

Agreed someone as a great as p didn't deserve the way he left. I do wish he would have been with at least one person. Why would his associates leave him all alone if they knew about the pills... cry cry

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Reply #2 posted 10/23/16 7:05pm

Jon1967

mad disbelief at our man. If hed opened up n told the world what was up he might be here, depending on what was really happn w him, ie cancer,hiv,some dreaded fatal disease. Hip pain took him out cmon no fn way, ppl get thru it n recover w that everyday.... wth hapnd???
how did things get to the extent it did,od'ng on planes,other things only some know about . To many qs n no answers. You mean to tell me he refused blood products for a hip(s) procedure that could of helped?
Thats suicide.
[Edited 10/23/16 19:27pm]
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Reply #3 posted 10/23/16 7:17pm

ufoclub

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Well, he was alone at that moment in the evening, but certainly not that day. And people were coming to help him that morning.
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Reply #4 posted 10/23/16 7:42pm

Jon1967

Why arent ppl being sued for prescribing things ?
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Reply #5 posted 10/23/16 8:00pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Understand...think it's because we really don't know much sad
We have heard so many stories from the media but the family is not saying much. they say they are protecting his legacy...well after all that has been said in the media the only guess left is if the fans thought his record label did him in then we would not want to buy any new releases due to the record label making $$.
The truth is what should be told.
No matter what, Prince did not deserve to have it end this way. I agree with where were his friends...true friends are always there for you no matter what.not sure this is something most people can just get over.
I am sad he is not here still doing what he loved making music.
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Reply #6 posted 10/23/16 8:17pm

Jon1967

he was a drug addict why? who od'd why? Protecting means your hiding the truth
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Reply #7 posted 10/23/16 10:17pm

PRNluv2

Jon1967 said:

mad disbelief at our man. If hed opened up n told the world what was up he might be here, depending on what was really happn w him, ie cancer,hiv,some dreaded fatal disease. Hip pain took him out cmon no fn way, ppl get thru it n recover w that everyday.... wth hapnd??? how did things get to the extent it did,od'ng on planes,other things only some know about . To many qs n no answers. You mean to tell me he refused blood products for a hip(s) procedure that could of helped? Thats suicide. [Edited 10/23/16 19:27pm]

I agree with you. If he had some type of health concern which required treatment, he may have not wanted to share it but he could've gotten expert care in L.A. or anywhere in the world in private. I feared for him after the plane incident and felt afraid for him. After that, I had hoped he would check into a hospital. BTW, my aunt who is in her 70's has had both hips replaced and she's very active - walking, going on carribean vacations, etc.

But, what I cannot get over is the fact that he allegedly OD'd on a plane and was not taken to a hospital for a lengthy stay. The supposed Narcan shot could have contributed to him getting sicker and he may have taken pain pills on top of that. He should have remained under care. Also, someone dropped him off that evening and it hasn't been revealed who that person was. That really bothered me that they casually dropped him off with a bag of full of medicine in tow.

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Reply #8 posted 10/23/16 10:33pm

Jon1967

Pill poppin got the better of him but why ??? The man was adored by the planet almost n noone did anyyhing xcept enable? !#&/@€_ what his hips were bothering him so much that he got dope sick off the meds and he couldn't kick it .. why wasnt he wheel chair bound, whats the damn real story??? If he was fucked up a lot noone noticed? These qs arent going away. An elevtr alone omg.
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Reply #9 posted 10/23/16 10:39pm

Jon1967

With you I can be an honest man
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Reply #10 posted 10/23/16 10:58pm

derrick31

It's hard to accept because no one quite knows what was going on with Prince. Something isn't right with the story the public is being told. There's something missing that would make things clear. Only his family and close friends know. I can't believe they are going to let him go down as a drug addict.
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Reply #11 posted 10/23/16 11:15pm

Jon1967

http://prince.org/msg/7/4...?&pg=1

I know I know already discussed
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Reply #12 posted 10/23/16 11:33pm

oliviacamron

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I find it so hard to believe that you people can't see the obvious. Prince was a marked man.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #13 posted 10/24/16 3:28am

rogifan

derrick31 said:

It's hard to accept because no one quite knows what was going on with Prince. Something isn't right with the story the public is being told. There's something missing that would make things clear. Only his family and close friends know. I can't believe they are going to let him go down as a drug addict.

I don't agree that's he's being remembered as a drug addict at all. Aside from trashy tabloids is anyone in the media portraying him that way? Sure you'll find all kinds of people on the internet and comments sections might be full of trolls saying awful things but I don't think they represent the public at large.
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Reply #14 posted 10/24/16 3:47am

tnhybrid

Maybe he went quickly at least, sort of sounds as though that may have been the case.

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Reply #15 posted 10/24/16 5:02am

Suzee

I dont believe an investigation is on going. We haven't heard a single thing about where its leading. Why is no one at least on the hot seat? So tragic that he was left alone to die.
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Reply #16 posted 10/24/16 5:07am

LuxLove

There are many things about his death that I struggle with but I never feel angry that he kept whatever was going on with him private. The whole world saw what Amy Winehouse was going through and it made no difference in her situation. I don't believe people around him didn't know - just not all those who act like they were super close
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Reply #17 posted 10/24/16 5:24am

luvparade

purplerabbithole said:

...that he was alone. I guess I obsess over his associates' reactions to his death, because I can't fathom anyone whose main job it is to give pleasure through music ever deserving to die alone. I just hope had these people known about what he was suffering from, that they would have tried to be there for him. Sadly, it might be his fault that he was alone--like he didn't trust that older associates could forgive him for past grievances or newer associates could forgive him for not being as strong as he wanted them to think he was.

My apologies for being bitchy towards his associates this week. But sometimes it feels like despite all the tributes and nice words in his direction that he was still one of the loneliest people on the planet because really, who suffers from drug addiction almost completely alone and in complete silence?

Sorry for the depressing post. I will try to decrease the sad or cynical posts I create from this point on.

I've read in a few places that it probably happened quick and he most likely felt like he was falling asleep. At that hour I'm sure I wasn't the only one holding my pillow tight, wishing it were Prince heart Telepathically or Spiritually, he wasn't ever alone. I believe his spirit passed quickly to another relam, he had so much love from fans around the would, who truly loved him. Maybe he came back to say one last goodbye. He said he almost died when the plane landed and coming back was the hardest thing he had ever done. If he wanted someone there, I like to think he would have had them there. If his employees were all off duty, it was up to Prince who he let in his home but I sure didn't care for one of his last tweets: 'just when U think U are safe'

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Reply #18 posted 10/24/16 5:32am

heathilly

Its not suprising he died alone and most people die alone anyway but in prince case I pretty sure he spent majority of his life alone. Learning instrument writing songs etc. He pushed people out of his life all the time and his only friend really was the music and thats the life he led you can call that sad but it is what it is. After hear jill jones speak it just clarified and reaffirmed somethings to me. Being at the top is lonely and prince was simliar to his father in that he was a hermit and fully obsessed with music that truly and really was his life.

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Reply #19 posted 10/24/16 5:50am

EmmaMcG

LuxLove said:

There are many things about his death that I struggle with but I never feel angry that he kept whatever was going on with him private. The whole world saw what Amy Winehouse was going through and it made no difference in her situation. I don't believe people around him didn't know - just not all those who act like they were super close


The difference between Prince and Amy Winehouse is that she was a junkie. Prince died from an accidental overdose of pain medication. It could happen to anyone. There's no record in any released hospital documents that he had any underlying health concerns. No cancer, aids or anything else. He had a bad hip. He took medication to ease the pain. That's it. He was probably on meds for the last few years. The problem is, and I know from experience, is that if you're taking these types of painkillers long enough, they get less and less effective. Which can lead to you taking more than what's prescribed to ease the pain. That's what more than likely happened on the plane. It obviously shook him up enough to contact that doctor who was due to come to Paisley Park the morning they found Prince's body. Unfortunately, in the meantime, Prince overdosed again and died. There's no big conspiracy or cover up. A man died from an accidental overdose. End of story. I understand a lot of us are huge fans but if his death is still troubling you to this degree 6 months later, then you need help. Just let the man rest and enjoy the music he left behind. That's his true legacy.
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Reply #20 posted 10/24/16 6:07am

Missmusicluver
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EmmaMcG said:

LuxLove said:
There are many things about his death that I struggle with but I never feel angry that he kept whatever was going on with him private. The whole world saw what Amy Winehouse was going through and it made no difference in her situation. I don't believe people around him didn't know - just not all those who act like they were super close
The difference between Prince and Amy Winehouse is that she was a junkie. Prince died from an accidental overdose of pain medication. It could happen to anyone. There's no record in any released hospital documents that he had any underlying health concerns. No cancer, aids or anything else. He had a bad hip. He took medication to ease the pain. That's it. He was probably on meds for the last few years. The problem is, and I know from experience, is that if you're taking these types of painkillers long enough, they get less and less effective. Which can lead to you taking more than what's prescribed to ease the pain. That's what more than likely happened on the plane. It obviously shook him up enough to contact that doctor who was due to come to Paisley Park the morning they found Prince's body. Unfortunately, in the meantime, Prince overdosed again and died. There's no big conspiracy or cover up. A man died from an accidental overdose. End of story. I understand a lot of us are huge fans but if his death is still troubling you to this degree 6 months later, then you need help. Just let the man rest and enjoy the music he left behind. That's his true legacy.

yeahthat

I understand his death came out of nowhere and we are all still feeling the loss, but to keep asking the same questions over and over (Why was he alone; where were his friends, why didn't anyone help him) isn't going to bring him back!! Yes, let's just please enjoy the music and celebrate his legacy.

[Edited 10/24/16 6:10am]

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Reply #21 posted 10/24/16 6:13am

BillieBalloon

LuxLove said:

There are many things about his death that I struggle with but I never feel angry that he kept whatever was going on with him private. The whole world saw what Amy Winehouse was going through and it made no difference in her situation. I don't believe people around him didn't know - just not all those who act like they were super close



Part of Amy's recovery had to do with her seeing a photo of herself in the press looking out of control and at deaths door. She said this is one of the things that made her want to get help. When she died she was drug free. Now the alcohol..That's something she was still battling but unfortunately she succumbed to it. So Amy's problems being out in the open did help, but I hate the way she was hounded by the press..it was vicious and almost destroyed her. It's a double edged sword. I wish Prince had just quietly gone to rehab and got help. However, we don't know if he had a terminal illness..rehab would not have helped him in the long term for that. I hate a lot of things about what happened to him...including the mystery surrounding his death. One minute he's there, the next he's gone. It was hard and still is.
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Reply #22 posted 10/24/16 6:20am

FUNKNROLL

oliviacamron said:

I find it so hard to believe that you people can't see the obvious. Prince was a marked man.


Seems plenty of anecdotal evidence for fueling that speculation.

- Secretly bankrolling the black lives matter movement, a political movement that amplifies unrest and challenges national law enforcement?

- Consistently putting a thumb in the eye of the music industry, and business deals, when he's reached a point where he's worth more in memory than in the here and now?

Forget "who benefits", maybe its better asked who didn't he piss off?
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Reply #23 posted 10/24/16 6:53am

heathilly

EmmaMcG said:

LuxLove said:
There are many things about his death that I struggle with but I never feel angry that he kept whatever was going on with him private. The whole world saw what Amy Winehouse was going through and it made no difference in her situation. I don't believe people around him didn't know - just not all those who act like they were super close
The difference between Prince and Amy Winehouse is that she was a junkie. Prince died from an accidental overdose of pain medication. It could happen to anyone. There's no record in any released hospital documents that he had any underlying health concerns. No cancer, aids or anything else. He had a bad hip. He took medication to ease the pain. That's it. He was probably on meds for the last few years. The problem is, and I know from experience, is that if you're taking these types of painkillers long enough, they get less and less effective. Which can lead to you taking more than what's prescribed to ease the pain. That's what more than likely happened on the plane. It obviously shook him up enough to contact that doctor who was due to come to Paisley Park the morning they found Prince's body. Unfortunately, in the meantime, Prince overdosed again and died. There's no big conspiracy or cover up. A man died from an accidental overdose. End of story. I understand a lot of us are huge fans but if his death is still troubling you to this degree 6 months later, then you need help. Just let the man rest and enjoy the music he left behind. That's his true legacy.

Prince couldve been a funtioning addict I know people hate to hear the word addict and prince but he had been on pain killers for some years thats a fact. The fact he was taking off brand street drug is clear that he was addicted to painkkillers and had to keep uping the drugs to get relief because his body was getting used to it.

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Reply #24 posted 10/24/16 6:57am

BillieBalloon

EmmaMcG said:

LuxLove said:

There are many things about his death that I struggle with but I never feel angry that he kept whatever was going on with him private. The whole world saw what Amy Winehouse was going through and it made no difference in her situation. I don't believe people around him didn't know - just not all those who act like they were super close


The difference between Prince and Amy Winehouse is that she was a junkie. Prince died from an accidental overdose of pain medication. It could happen to anyone. There's no record in any released hospital documents that he had any underlying health concerns. No cancer, aids or anything else. He had a bad hip. He took medication to ease the pain. That's it. He was probably on meds for the last few years. The problem is, and I know from experience, is that if you're taking these types of painkillers long enough, they get less and less effective. Which can lead to you taking more than what's prescribed to ease the pain. That's what more than likely happened on the plane. It obviously shook him up enough to contact that doctor who was due to come to Paisley Park the morning they found Prince's body. Unfortunately, in the meantime, Prince overdosed again and died. There's no big conspiracy or cover up. A man died from an accidental overdose. End of story. I understand a lot of us are huge fans but if his death is still troubling you to this degree 6 months later, then you need help. Just let the man rest and enjoy the music he left behind. That's his true legacy.



By all accounts and for most of his life Prince was anti-drugs. I belive he did take painkillers for his hip pain but I also believe that since they are highly addictive, that he was addicted, probably for a while. It wasn't a one off incident that can happen to anyone, they found pills at PP that had not been prescribed by any doctor. There is no shame in becoming addicted to painkillers, I don't judge him for it and never will.
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Reply #25 posted 10/24/16 7:04am

Missmusicluver
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heathilly said:

EmmaMcG said:

LuxLove said: The difference between Prince and Amy Winehouse is that she was a junkie. Prince died from an accidental overdose of pain medication. It could happen to anyone. There's no record in any released hospital documents that he had any underlying health concerns. No cancer, aids or anything else. He had a bad hip. He took medication to ease the pain. That's it. He was probably on meds for the last few years. The problem is, and I know from experience, is that if you're taking these types of painkillers long enough, they get less and less effective. Which can lead to you taking more than what's prescribed to ease the pain. That's what more than likely happened on the plane. It obviously shook him up enough to contact that doctor who was due to come to Paisley Park the morning they found Prince's body. Unfortunately, in the meantime, Prince overdosed again and died. There's no big conspiracy or cover up. A man died from an accidental overdose. End of story. I understand a lot of us are huge fans but if his death is still troubling you to this degree 6 months later, then you need help. Just let the man rest and enjoy the music he left behind. That's his true legacy.

Prince couldve been a funtioning addict I know people hate to hear the word addict and prince but he had been on pain killers for some years thats a fact. The fact he was taking off brand street drug is clear that he was addicted to painkkillers and had to keep uping the drugs to get relief because his body was getting used to it.

Has that been proven already? Last I heard, they were still investigating if the Fentanyl was laced with something that may have been off brand and he could've been taking it without even knowing that.

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Reply #26 posted 10/24/16 7:20am

cra1g0s

I don't like to think about there being a conspiracy, in the same way that I don't want to with John Lennon's murder. I'd like to hear from those closest to him (Kirk Johnson I'm thinking of you) but really, it's none of our business to hear Prince's medical history divulged, what good is that going to do? Okay, these unanswered questions we're left with, well, I think Tyka probably does know more but it's a family matter and we should leave it at that - much as we probably don't consider this, he was just human after all with the same frailties.

Noone likes to think about Prince collapsing on his own inside an elevator, but I'd rather put the circumsatnces of it out of my mind, no CCTV footage needed thank you and his last moments should not define the way he's remembered. It was an accidental overdose of illegally obtained fetanyl, one of many such opiod abuse deaths in the US.

Okay, some people will think this is exactly what 'they' want you to believe but come on, let's be serious. He was an incredible artist and entertainer, like Sinatra, or Hendrix, Elvis or Bowie. I can't think the illuminati or government wanted him gone, Obama wouldn't have allowed it for one. There's always political and social unrest, I wouldn't say Prince was a figurehead for the black lives matter movement, he empathised and wanted to bring attention to the problem but he wasn't calling for action or leading protests down Pennsylvania Avenue waving a placard.

The fact that he fell asleep on the plane before Judith Hill's eyes, that's the way I'd like to think he went. A few days before his death, I had some concerns with the the story of his plane's emergency landing, wondered how I would feel if he died. Was it a premonition, what about his mysterious tweets, no, it was pretty obvious looking back that we were seeing some clues as to what was going on, and if a doctor had been contacted about his addiction and it spiralling out of control then quite simply this plane incident was just the most visible moment in what was probably a steady decline over a good couple of years.

It's sad for sure, but let's not consider it to be anything more than an accidental overdose of painkillers and thank goodness that's a world so alien and unfathomable to most of us.

The most talented musician and performer of his and most likely most generations, will be sorely missed but man, what an impact you had.

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Reply #27 posted 10/24/16 7:23am

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I just hope he wasn't scared. I hate when people die in general. But I always wonder about their last moments. Were they scared? Were they in physical pain? I have heard they found him with his pants on backwards and things just kind of jumbled up. Makes me wonder if he was going for help ( I don't know where or to who, because no one was there) ...but maybe he knew something was VERY wrong and wanted help.

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Reply #28 posted 10/24/16 7:23am

BillieBalloon

Tyka said when she got the phone call she wasn't shocked, didn't ask anymore questions, and put the phone down.
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Reply #29 posted 10/24/16 7:42am

destinyc1

purplerabbithole said:

...that he was alone. I guess I obsess over his associates' reactions to his death, because I can't fathom anyone whose main job it is to give pleasure through music ever deserving to die alone. I just hope had these people known about what he was suffering from, that they would have tried to be there for him. Sadly, it might be his fault that he was alone--like he didn't trust that older associates could forgive him for past grievances or newer associates could forgive him for not being as strong as he wanted them to think he was.

My apologies for being bitchy towards his associates this week. But sometimes it feels like despite all the tributes and nice words in his direction that he was still one of the loneliest people on the planet because really, who suffers from drug addiction almost completely alone and in complete silence?

Sorry for the depressing post. I will try to decrease the sad or cynical posts I create from this point on.

Its because your a good human being who prob has a heart of gold.I think we get and understand that he's gone but,we dont know why he is gone.(not really).then when u think ok just an od then his sis said 'he said he would be dead in 2 years.Who says that?Did the dr tell him 2 years for something?

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