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Reply #30 posted 10/21/16 12:13am

udo

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leadline said:

Don't panic, these releases are seperate from the estate stuff and Purple Rain remaster was already delivered to warner months before he passed away. We still have yet to hear about any official vault releases.

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So what is the deal with these non-estate releases?

WB will need the estate for goodies on the PR remaster.

But what is this '4ever' release adding despite milking what is already there?

2 discs? thus no long versions?

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Reply #31 posted 10/21/16 12:20am

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Bring on the vinyl! I

ll be buying it. Looking forwards to a clean Moonbeam Levels. Maybe they´ll release a single with an extra song> That would be nice.

As for PR deluxe... Finally.

"Time is a train, makes the future the past"
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Reply #32 posted 10/21/16 12:21am

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yes A+ positive sign the vault may be handled with care, since the powers that be moved straight away to release one of the most anticipated unreleased Prince songs: 'Moonbeam Levels'. Something Prince stubbornly refused to do for many years, while fans gave him "the side eye" as songs such as Jughead and Mr. Happy got released instead.


Moonbeam Levels could have been a major hit for Prince, IMO.
If promoted as a single, Moonbeam Levels might catch general listeners by surprise, which could generate further interest in Prince's music overall. If the label makes Moonbeam Levels an "album only exclusive" that's gonna annoy hardcore fans who already purchased the "Hits" songs in various formats and configurations.

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Reply #33 posted 10/21/16 12:24am

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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #34 posted 10/21/16 12:41am

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With ample variations already in circulation of WB era hits releases, I was anticipating something more substantial wih regards to a posthumous compilation release. Was an opportunity to present the market with a quality collector piece, Would have liked to see a package that featured particular tracks on different mediums. For example, previousy unreleased tracks on a CD, classic WB hits tracks on Vinyl, live footage on DVD and an accompanying quality book all in the release. Perhaps that's all too much for a presumed mass price point release, however if such a package is ever likely to sell well...now was that time.

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Reply #35 posted 10/21/16 12:41am

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I hereby request the full length 1999 and When Doves Cry and the 7" edit of Alphabet Street.
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Reply #36 posted 10/21/16 12:52am

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RIP OFF!!!! I already have The Hits 3-CD package, as well as the Very Best Of Prince and the Ultimate set, why should I buy YET another greatest hits set, JUST FOR ONE UNRELEASED TRACK???

An excellent example of CASHING IN!!!!!!!

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Reply #37 posted 10/21/16 1:00am

jaawwnn

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Poor tracklist tho yeah, pure money grabbing exercise. It'll sell less now as a result as well. They could have done something really special and never done before with a career retrospective and we get this. Not surprised but Prince deserves better.
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Reply #38 posted 10/21/16 1:00am

antonb

Yep I have got all those too, but I will still buy it!Like it or lump it. Simple as.
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Reply #39 posted 10/21/16 1:03am

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Will 4ever be remastered? Because if not there's really no point, we have 39 of these songs already and

there seems to be nothing post 1993 - so we may as well just keep The Hits series? Oddly the cover shot is from c.2004 even though there is nothing there from that era!

Why no 'Gold' and any of the hundreds of excellent unreleased songs? I'd rather have 'Hard To Get '81' or 'Baby You're A Trip' than another copy of Gotta Stop Messing Around.

It's almost as if they are saying Prince didn't count after he left them / changed his name.

At least things are getting out but concerned this is just a cynical cash in with nothing really new.

Lets hope they do a better job with the PR remaster.

[Edited 10/21/16 1:06am]

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Reply #40 posted 10/21/16 1:16am

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This does point to WBR "owning" outtakes recorded during their contract.

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Reply #41 posted 10/21/16 1:26am

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BartVanHemelen said:

This does point to WBR "owning" outtakes recorded during their contract.

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What is the current situation w.r.t. WB owning any masters/stuff?

Wasn't Prince going to receive his masters back?

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This is relevant because it determines who gets to decide on releases and this crap-looking 4ever release could have been avoided.

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Reply #42 posted 10/21/16 1:31am

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fbueller said:

yes A+ positive sign the vault may be handled with care, since the powers that be moved straight away to release one of the most anticipated unreleased Prince songs: 'Moonbeam Levels'. Something Prince stubbornly refused to do for many years, while fans gave him "the side eye" as songs such as Jughead and Mr. Happy got released instead.



Moonbeam Levels could have been a major hit for Prince, IMO.
If promoted as a single, Moonbeam Levels might catch general listeners by surprise, which could generate further interest in Prince's music overall. If the label makes Moonbeam Levels an "album only exclusive" that's gonna annoy hardcore fans who already purchased the "Hits" songs in various formats and configurations.


-- Jughead and Mr.Happy are just cuts in albums these songs were never singles do why do fans make such big deal out of it.
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Reply #43 posted 10/21/16 1:34am

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BartVanHemelen said:

This does point to WBR "owning" outtakes recorded during their contract.


// No it does not. Rumors are that this was already in the works before he passed. He may provided Moonbeam levels to Warner Brothers and maybe he was going to actually work with them on getting vault material out.
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Reply #44 posted 10/21/16 1:58am

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laurarichardson said:

fbueller said:

yes A+ positive sign the vault may be handled with care, since the powers that be moved straight away to release one of the most anticipated unreleased Prince songs: 'Moonbeam Levels'. Something Prince stubbornly refused to do for many years, while fans gave him "the side eye" as songs such as Jughead and Mr. Happy got released instead.


Moonbeam Levels could have been a major hit for Prince, IMO.
If promoted as a single, Moonbeam Levels might catch general listeners by surprise, which could generate further interest in Prince's music overall. If the label makes Moonbeam Levels an "album only exclusive" that's gonna annoy hardcore fans who already purchased the "Hits" songs in various formats and configurations.

-- Jughead and Mr.Happy are just cuts in albums these songs were never singles do why do fans make such big deal out of it.


You can't really be this obtuse. Jughead and Mr. Happy being released on Albums, instead of being Singles?? The point was that lesser "throwaway" songs like Jughead were released, while incredible songs, like Moonbeam Levels, collected dust in Prince's vault for 30+ years.

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Reply #45 posted 10/21/16 2:00am

Superconductor

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Nothing to get excited about. Next!!

...every night another symphony...
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Reply #46 posted 10/21/16 2:11am

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BartVanHemelen said:

This does point to WBR "owning" outtakes recorded during their contract.

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Not necessarily.

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The role of NPG Publishing is to find commercial opportunities.

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NPG Publishing could have approached Warners or Warners could have approached NPG.

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Warners can't release anything without collaborating with NPG Publishing.

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lol

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Reply #47 posted 10/21/16 2:22am

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laurarichardson said:

BartVanHemelen said:

This does point to WBR "owning" outtakes recorded during their contract.

// No it does not. Rumors are that this was already in the works before he passed. He may provided Moonbeam levels to Warner Brothers and maybe he was going to actually work with them on getting vault material out.


Where did you hear that rumor? Purple Rain Deluxe Remaster was in the works. Purple Rain Remaster was announced in around May 2014 - yet it's getting released 3 years later. Prince had been making comments before his death that clearly indicated that he and WB were not in a good place and weren't getting along.


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Reply #48 posted 10/21/16 2:23am

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Ouch. Only one new song drowned in a weak tracklist for a expensive cd set... This is WB, not Prince style.

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Reply #49 posted 10/21/16 2:47am

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fbueller said:



laurarichardson said:


BartVanHemelen said:

This does point to WBR "owning" outtakes recorded during their contract.



// No it does not. Rumors are that this was already in the works before he passed. He may provided Moonbeam levels to Warner Brothers and maybe he was going to actually work with them on getting vault material out.


Where did you hear that rumor? Purple Rain Deluxe Remaster was in the works. Purple Rain Remaster was announced in around May 2014 - yet it's getting released 3 years later. Prince had been making comments before his death that clearly indicated that he and WB were not in a good place and weren't getting along.



/- Rumor has been around for a while and even if Prince said the remaster was ready but Warner Brothers was holding it up. Could have been true all along plus with revenue from streaming causing a decline in revenue he may have been more open to working with them.
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Reply #50 posted 10/21/16 2:48am

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A disappointing selection, and very (probably necessarily so) limited to his first WB stint - but every single song on that list is excellent.


I expect further releases containing more previously unreleased songs will eventually be forthcoming. This one smells like a "quick! get some Prince stuff out for christmas!" release to me.

A-nis bidh fios aig daoine nuair a tha mi a 'mionnachadh aig dhaibh.
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Reply #51 posted 10/21/16 2:48am

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I'm quite sick at the moment and slightly delirious (no pun intended) but if I'm reading this right, it means there are actually 3 albums on the horizon, not 2. There's the Prince 4ever greatest hits collection, the purple rain remaster and a "second album of previously unreleased material". I'm more interested in that last part than the greatest hits or purple rain.
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Reply #52 posted 10/21/16 2:52am

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PurpleSpirit319 said:

RIP OFF!!!! I already have The Hits 3-CD package, as well as the Very Best Of Prince and the Ultimate set, why should I buy YET another greatest hits set, JUST FOR ONE UNRELEASED TRACK???



An excellent example of CASHING IN!!!!!

yes because everybody has the same collection as you and to whole release is made with only you in their mind.
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Reply #53 posted 10/21/16 2:52am

antonb

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Ouch. Only one new song drowned in a weak tracklist for a expensive cd set... This is WB, not Prince style.


Well this release is for new curious fans and the general public.It ain't for the hardcore. To spark interest in the public.Very simple really.
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Reply #54 posted 10/21/16 2:58am

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fabriziovenerandi said:

Ouch. Only one new song drowned in a weak tracklist for a expensive cd set... This is WB, not Prince style.

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IF NPG publishing is involved they let this happen.

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Reply #55 posted 10/21/16 2:59am

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As usual, whiny fans just don't get it. First, Prince had VERY FEW hits after he left WB. Yeah, WE may know he had some good songs after that, but big hits? Nah.

Second, this is a WB release. Guess what? That means songs he recorded while under contract with WB. All the other stuff after was on various different labels or self released. Do you really think all the contracts/rights etc. would be worked out that quickly? No.

Third. Both of these sets were more than likely in the works before P died, just like the vinyl reissues.

Fourth. Welcome to the world of posthumous releases, where one or two songs are tacked on to greatest hits packages so uber-fans will buy them.

Fifth. There are people in the world who don't know all these songs! This is also for them, not just YOU!!
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Reply #56 posted 10/21/16 3:06am

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fbueller said:

laurarichardson said:

BartVanHemelen said: // No it does not. Rumors are that this was already in the works before he passed. He may provided Moonbeam levels to Warner Brothers and maybe he was going to actually work with them on getting vault material out.


Where did you hear that rumor? Purple Rain Deluxe Remaster was in the works. Purple Rain Remaster was announced in around May 2014 - yet it's getting released 3 years later. Prince had been making comments before his death that clearly indicated that he and WB were not in a good place and weren't getting along.


Prince was quoted saying to one journalist at PP that 'it's the same album' indicating there was no extras.

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Reply #57 posted 10/21/16 3:09am

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BartVanHemelen said:

This does point to WBR "owning" outtakes recorded during their contract.

If WB owns outtakes is a disaster.

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Reply #58 posted 10/21/16 3:12am

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Comparison:

1 1999 [hits 1]
2 Little Red Corvette [hits 2]
3. When Doves Cry [hits 1]
4. Let’s Go Crazy [hits 1]
5. Raspberry Beret [hits 2]
6. I Wanna Be Your Lover [hits 2]
7. Soft and Wet [hits 1]
8. Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad [hits 1]
9. Uptown [hits 1]
10. When You Were Mine [hits 1]
11. Head [hits 2]
12. Gotta Stop (Messin’ About) [the B sides]
13. Controversy [hits 2]
14. Let’s Work
15. Delirious [hits 2]
16. I Would Die 4 U [hits 2]
17. Take Me With U
18. Paisley Park
19. Pop Life [hits 1]
20. Purple Rain [hits 2]
21. Kiss [hits 2]
22. Sign ‘O’ The Times [hits 1]
23. Alphabet Street [hits 1]
24. Batdance
25. Thieves In The Temple [hits 1]
26. Cream [hits 2]
27. Mountains
28. Girls & Boys
29. If I Was Your Girlfriend [hits 2]
30. U Got The Look [hits 2]
31. I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man [hits 1]
32. Glam Slam
33. Moonbeam Levels
34. Diamonds and Pearls [hits 1]
35. Gett Off [hits 2]
36. Sexy MF [hits 2]
37. My Name Is Prince
38. 7 [hits 1]
39. Peach [hits 2]
40. Nothing Compares 2 U [hits 1]

"The Most Beautiful Girl in the World." is mentioned in the OP but not listed.

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Reply #59 posted 10/21/16 3:13am

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BartVanHemelen said:

This does point to WBR "owning" outtakes recorded during their contract.



Not necessarily. What we do know is that Prince used at least one song recorded during the WB period for a post-WB album (Rave). Take from that what you will.
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