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Thread started 10/13/16 9:05am

AnnaStesia91

Celebrities Provide for their families all the time, why is it an issue now?

Why do so many have an issue with Prince's family being taken care of? Its common practice for entertainers to financially support their families but for some reason Prince's family isn't worthy of that same treatment?

I think I know the reason's honestly but I really want some other opinions.
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Reply #1 posted 10/13/16 9:37am

ladygirl99

I most certainly don't have an issue with this and I give anyone mad respect when they look out family first. I thought it was very admirable of Prince still make sure his family is going to be taken care while he was gone. He taught me a lesson on that one.

I have issues with his family more of other things that I already addressed on here for those who followed my posts.

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Reply #2 posted 10/13/16 10:22am

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I think it's jealousy.

You have to hand it to the family, they have one hell of a mess to clean up, all while trying to deal with their grief AND our grief. It sure isn't easy on them.

To top all that off, the people on this forum are really so cruel to them. We don't have the right to tell them what they can or can't do. And I really think that everything they are doing, they ARE keeping the fans in mind.

It's really sad how they are being treated.

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Reply #3 posted 10/13/16 10:54am

scorp84

I think it's because people don't really know much about his family and the extent of their relationships with him to begin with, and what they do find out about them generally comes filtered through the media, and some of it isn't favorable. Add to the fact that Prince was very successful at keeping family business private. All families fall out, have dark secrets and hold grudges for many, many years. That doesn't mean all the love and support dies.
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Reply #4 posted 10/13/16 11:19am

funkaholic1972

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PennyPurple said:

I think it's jealousy.

You have to hand it to the family, they have one hell of a mess to clean up, all while trying to deal with their grief AND our grief. It sure isn't easy on them.

To top all that off, the people on this forum are really so cruel to them. We don't have the right to tell them what they can or can't do. And I really think that everything they are doing, they ARE keeping the fans in mind.

It's really sad how they are being treated.

I agree, a significant amount of people on this board seem pretty quick to point their finger to various members in Prince's camp without having any real understanding or proper knowledge of what is going on behind the curtains. It must be hard if you are in Prince's family/camp and you visit this fansite and you read the stuff that's posted here by some.

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Reply #5 posted 10/13/16 11:23am

Superfan1984

I don't understand this either. Also, his family could really use this windfall - if George Lopez had to give them 20,000 to make it through-- and I"m glad they're getting it. They have been respectful of Prince, they don't seem grubby to me - any of them could have sold stories to the press through the years and they haven't, the only thing I remember was Tyka in the 90's on A Current Affair and she didn't say anything bad about him, only that she needed help. Plus, I think they're doing right by him to turn PP into a museum. I'm happy for all of them.

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Reply #6 posted 10/13/16 12:33pm

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Superfan1984 said:

I don't understand this either. Also, his family could really use this windfall - if George Lopez had to give them 20,000 to make it through-- and I"m glad they're getting it. They have been respectful of Prince, they don't seem grubby to me - any of them could have sold stories to the press through the years and they haven't, the only thing I remember was Tyka in the 90's on A Current Affair and she didn't say anything bad about him, only that she needed help. Plus, I think they're doing right by him to turn PP into a museum. I'm happy for all of them.

Agree family as done nothing but try to honor his wishes. They are not out making buttholes out of themselves but like any family when someone dies bills still need to be taken care of the estate needs to be settled. They cannot go into shut down mode they have to be strong and take care of business.

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Reply #7 posted 10/13/16 12:57pm

phatphuk



The issue is a combination of…



  1. people knowing Jack Shit about the private Prince Rogers Nelson

  2. people projecting the shit-show that is their own family problems onto the blank white screen of Prince's family — {about which they know Jack Shit}

  3. good old fashioned green-eyed monsterism



    “Sometimes People Don't Want To Hear The Truth Because They Don't Want Their Illusions Destroyed” — Friedrich Nietzsche 
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Reply #8 posted 10/13/16 12:58pm

TrivialPursuit

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AnnaStesia91 said:

Why do so many have an issue with Prince's family being taken care of? Its common practice for entertainers to financially support their families but for some reason Prince's family isn't worthy of that same treatment? I think I know the reason's honestly but I really want some other opinions.


Because Prince fans are entitled and spoiled, and perhaps a tad jealous (although jealousy isn't my go-to answer for things like this; I think it is a juvenile and often uneducated stance in general). Frankly, we're owed nothing, on a legal or even moral basis. Before Prince was PRINCE, he was brother, son, cousin. He loved his parents and family, despite what we hear otherwise, and despite any tiffs they had in between the good times. He didn't necessarily owe his family anything either, but he did take care of them. You help those around you when you are able to, whether it's $10 or $1000. Obviously a lot of the chatter is just folks working out their grief, but it could be handled better for all involved.

Everyone yells about the family being "money hungry" or "money grubbers", etc. But then, Londell and Bremer are dipping into the pot, too? Tyka's this or that. Where exactly is all that money supposed to go? Who gets it? The fans? Hardly! Janet for the longest time, and she still might, allocated Marlon a large sum of money per month. I'm not sure about any other brothers, but I saw documents about Marlon (might have been divorce papers for her and Rene, but I forget right now). Michael might have done the same thing. Under Minnesota law, these siblings are entitled to the inheritance. PERIOD. It sucks that Londell couldn't get Prince to put a will in place, but this is where it stands. Life is already moving forward - fans gotta do the same thing, and get off the "sad again, more tears, can't talk"- really? cuz ya just spoke.

Ultimately, it's not our business. What is our business is supporting the legacy how we see fit. Buying merchandise, taking the tour, buying albums - stuff like that. Something we don't like- then don't buy it. But it's really not anyone's business, nor should it even pain someone, how the money is handled. "It tears me up inside..." Oh, sit down. To that melodramatic nonsense I say, "That's your burden to carry. No one put that on you except you".

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Reply #9 posted 10/13/16 2:30pm

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Who has said that they have a problem with prince providing financially for his family? Good on him if he set up a company and put all of his music in the name of said company, of whom his family are shareholders.

I do have a problem with the lack of a will. Finances down the drain. Thats money that could have been used for charity, instead lining the lawyers pockets.
I have a bigger problem with tyka keeping quiet about the underlying cause of death. We fans are trying to keep his legacy up but this woman isnt giving us anything to fight with. The public thinks he was junkie and we just have to accept that? Good looking out tyka. The estate boycott is real until she gets real.
[Edited 10/13/16 14:33pm]
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Reply #10 posted 10/13/16 2:31pm

26ten

TrivialPursuit said:

AnnaStesia91 said:

Why do so many have an issue with Prince's family being taken care of? Its common practice for entertainers to financially support their families but for some reason Prince's family isn't worthy of that same treatment? I think I know the reason's honestly but I really want some other opinions.


Because Prince fans are entitled and spoiled, and perhaps a tad jealous (although jealousy isn't my go-to answer for things like this; I think it is a juvenile and often uneducated stance in general). Frankly, we're owed nothing, on a legal or even moral basis. Before Prince was PRINCE, he was brother, son, cousin. He loved his parents and family, despite what we hear otherwise, and despite any tiffs they had in between the good times. He didn't necessarily owe his family anything either, but he did take care of them. You help those around you when you are able to, whether it's $10 or $1000. Obviously a lot of the chatter is just folks working out their grief, but it could be handled better for all involved.

Everyone yells about the family being "money hungry" or "money grubbers", etc. But then, Londell and Bremer are dipping into the pot, too? Tyka's this or that. Where exactly is all that money supposed to go? Who gets it? The fans? Hardly! Janet for the longest time, and she still might, allocated Marlon a large sum of money per month. I'm not sure about any other brothers, but I saw documents about Marlon (might have been divorce papers for her and Rene, but I forget right now). Michael might have done the same thing. Under Minnesota law, these siblings are entitled to the inheritance. PERIOD. It sucks that Londell couldn't get Prince to put a will in place, but this is where it stands. Life is already moving forward - fans gotta do the same thing, and get off the "sad again, more tears, can't talk"- really? cuz ya just spoke.

Ultimately, it's not our business. What is our business is supporting the legacy how we see fit. Buying merchandise, taking the tour, buying albums - stuff like that. Something we don't like- then don't buy it. But it's really not anyone's business, nor should it even pain someone, how the money is handled. "It tears me up inside..." Oh, sit down. To that melodramatic nonsense I say, "That's your burden to carry. No one put that on you except you".

True that.

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I have a lot of sympathy for those who are grieving in any form but it's so important to not hurt anyone or to make their own grief potentially worse. I'm a fan of Prince and he means a whole lot to me but that doesn't give me any type of entitlement on anything his family is going though.

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I've said it before too - if Prince were alive to see it he'd be just pissed. It comes from the right place but it's the wrong response entirely.

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I just hope everyone starts to channel their grief into more productive and positive a thing than hate. Clearly love for one another is lacking - and that is what should be happening.

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Reply #11 posted 10/13/16 2:34pm

Revolution

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I agree. Starts with the truth. Starts with tyka
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #12 posted 10/13/16 2:57pm

AnnaStesia91

Like I posted somewhere in regards to the cause of death. It's very possible that she is being advised not to comment on the full cause of death due to the actual investigation still being open. Or maybe Prince wouldn't want us to know.
I do feel like people are jealous of them in a lot of ways. I've also seen folks' OUTRIGHT RACISM shine through especially on facebook. It's just all very interesting and sad and people expect things out of them that they possibly couldn't execute their damn selves.
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Reply #13 posted 10/13/16 4:48pm

FunkiestOne

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Yes they provide for their families, but taking care in leaving a will. They don't provide for their families by not leaving a will, and instead leaving everything in disarray.

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Reply #14 posted 10/13/16 4:53pm

DMarieP

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funkaholic1972 said:



PennyPurple said:


I think it's jealousy.



You have to hand it to the family, they have one hell of a mess to clean up, all while trying to deal with their grief AND our grief. It sure isn't easy on them.



To top all that off, the people on this forum are really so cruel to them. We don't have the right to tell them what they can or can't do. And I really think that everything they are doing, they ARE keeping the fans in mind.



It's really sad how they are being treated.



I agree, a significant amount of people on this board seem pretty quick to point their finger to various members in Prince's camp without having any real understanding or proper knowledge of what is going on behind the curtains. It must be hard if you are in Prince's family/camp and you visit this fansite and you read the stuff that's posted here by some.


I agree. Its only natural that his family is taken care of and shown respect. Some "fans/people" are just mean. It's only been six months which is not a lot of time to grieve let alone settle/manage Prince's estate.
He's not here, but still very near

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Reply #15 posted 10/13/16 5:31pm

onefilmchic

laurarichardson said:

Superfan1984 said:

I don't understand this either. Also, his family could really use this windfall - if George Lopez had to give them 20,000 to make it through-- and I"m glad they're getting it. They have been respectful of Prince, they don't seem grubby to me - any of them could have sold stories to the press through the years and they haven't, the only thing I remember was Tyka in the 90's on A Current Affair and she didn't say anything bad about him, only that she needed help. Plus, I think they're doing right by him to turn PP into a museum. I'm happy for all of them.

Agree family as done nothing but try to honor his wishes. They are not out making buttholes out of themselves but like any family when someone dies bills still need to be taken care of the estate needs to be settled. They cannot go into shut down mode they have to be strong and take care of business.

I'd like to know more about what happened, I'd really like to see what's in that vault as well. There's a whole mess of stuff I want to know but like others have said, it's none of my business. That's reality. I'm not entitled to any answers. No will = bad planning to me. Not some statement about what his family meant or didn't mean to Prince. I don't know what they meant to him. I honestly am glad they haven't been out selling stories and giving the details like what Prince's last meal was.

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I keep dreading that one morning I'll open up my news feed and see something like this

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LIFETIME ANNOUNCES IT'S NEW BIOPIC: Prince - The Purple Years - Part I

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So really am glad privacy is being respected (for the most part)

[Edited 10/13/16 17:32pm]

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Reply #16 posted 10/13/16 6:47pm

laurarichardso
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onefilmchic said:



laurarichardson said:




Superfan1984 said:


I don't understand this either. Also, his family could really use this windfall - if George Lopez had to give them 20,000 to make it through-- and I"m glad they're getting it. They have been respectful of Prince, they don't seem grubby to me - any of them could have sold stories to the press through the years and they haven't, the only thing I remember was Tyka in the 90's on A Current Affair and she didn't say anything bad about him, only that she needed help. Plus, I think they're doing right by him to turn PP into a museum. I'm happy for all of them.




Agree family as done nothing but try to honor his wishes. They are not out making buttholes out of themselves but like any family when someone dies bills still need to be taken care of the estate needs to be settled. They cannot go into shut down mode they have to be strong and take care of business.




I'd like to know more about what happened, I'd really like to see what's in that vault as well. There's a whole mess of stuff I want to know but like others have said, it's none of my business. That's reality. I'm not entitled to any answers. No will = bad planning to me. Not some statement about what his family meant or didn't mean to Prince. I don't know what they meant to him. I honestly am glad they haven't been out selling stories and giving the details like what Prince's last meal was.


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I keep dreading that one morning I'll open up my news feed and see something like this


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LIFETIME ANNOUNCES IT'S NEW BIOPIC: Prince - The Purple Years - Part I



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So really am glad privacy is being respected (for the most part)


[Edited 10/13/16 17:32pm]


// No will could mean he was not planning on dropping dead on April 21 2016. He took pills that were mislabeled and who knows what else he was dealing with. Sitting down and writing a will is facing the end and that is hard for some people to do when they are not ill much less when they are ill. In addition, with his estate it would have been a massive undertaking.
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Reply #17 posted 10/13/16 7:06pm

IsufferfromMPS

Next best thread to the discussing Princes sexuality thread made and kept strong by the awesome ladies of the org !!!!!

This is the exact point i was trying to make in the urn in people magazine thread. Prince didnt put his business about ANYTHING besides his music to his so called 'fans' because this is how they act.

He kept his family out of the public eye and conversation REGARDLESS of whatever the state of their relationships were because I'm sure he didn't want them subjected to the same so called fans verbal attacks and incessant need for details of their personal business.
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Reply #18 posted 10/13/16 7:13pm

IsufferfromMPS

These people are truly exposing themselves as the exact type of fan he COULDN'T STAND !!

Thinking they have some sort of right to his and his families business, even down to this mans medical records just because they bought some albums and concert tickets.
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Reply #19 posted 10/13/16 10:37pm

daKotaGeNesis

IsufferfromMPS said:

These people are truly exposing themselves as the exact type of fan he COULDN'T STAND !!

Thinking they have some sort of right to his and his families business, even down to this mans medical records just because they bought some albums and concert tickets.

Exactly the type of behavior I'm talking about.

If he couldn't stand his fans so much, why did he party with them every week.
Why did he give some of his fans backstage passes to his shows?
During his shows, why did he let his fans onstage with him?
I understand the level of privacy you would like to convey but please do not say anything about Prince that is far from the truth. He loved his fans and he cared for his family!

To be honest with you, Prince was one of the nicest people on earth. He was sweet, charming, caring, loving and interesting to talk to.
Is this a fake account I'm talking to?

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Reply #20 posted 10/13/16 10:38pm

daKotaGeNesis

IsufferfromMPS said:

These people are truly exposing themselves as the exact type of fan he COULDN'T STAND !!

Thinking they have some sort of right to his and his families business, even down to this mans medical records just because they bought some albums and concert tickets.

Exactly the type of behavior I'm talking about.

If he couldn't stand his fans so much, why did he party with them every week.
Why did he give some of his fans backstage passes to his shows?
During his shows, why did he let his fans onstage with him?
Is this a fake account I'm talking to?
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Reply #21 posted 10/13/16 10:47pm

rogifan

The entitlement mentality bothers me. Entitled to a public memorial and to know all the details surrounding his death and any heath issues he might have had. As I've said before it's not the family's responsibility to provide "closure". People need to find that on their own and if they can't perhaps they need to seek professional help.
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Reply #22 posted 10/13/16 11:36pm

daKotaGeNesis

AnnaStesia91 said:

Why do so many have an issue with Prince's family being taken care of? Its common practice for entertainers to financially support their families but for some reason Prince's family isn't worthy of that same treatment?

I think I know the reason's honestly but I really want some other opinions.

Anyways, to answer your question and as a person who gives money herself, I don't find anything wrong with it.
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Reply #23 posted 10/14/16 3:40am

IsufferfromMPS

For the comment below this

Im sorry, did u not read the full sentence? I said the TYPE OF FAN , not all fans. When he gave his fans all that you mentioned and that still wasn't enough, that's what I'm referring to. The fans who feel they have the right to know things that had nothing to do with his music and quite frankly were none of their business is who im referring to. Are u one of them? Is that why ur offended? There's a point where said fans cross the line and he has said that it interviews.




Exactly the type of behavior I'm talking about.

If he couldn't stand his fans so much, why did he party with them every week.
Why did he give some of his fans backstage passes to his shows?
During his shows, why did he let his fans onstage with him?
Is this a fake account I'm talking to?[/quote]
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Reply #24 posted 10/14/16 4:23pm

PurplePeace

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AnnaStesia91 said:

Why do so many have an issue with Prince's family being taken care of? Its common practice for entertainers to financially support their families but for some reason Prince's family isn't worthy of that same treatment? I think I know the reason's honestly but I really want some other opinions.

Good question.

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Sure other people take care of their families - usually their mothers/parents. Maybe it would be easier for me to believe Prince wanted his sibs to get his estate if he had left a document stating that was the case. Without that it's hard to say. I honestly think this [not having a will]is almost malpractice on the part of his attorney(s).

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I don't have an issue with it but maybe a subconscious judgment about grown adults living as dependents of their talented brother; so much so that upon his death someone had to loan them $20K just to keep going. Anyway, it's none of my business but you asked so...

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But of course in the end it really doesn't matter. Prince is still gone, no will has been found, and the family will have the responsibilty of not only his estate but to some degree, his legacy. I hope they are up to it. Luckily, we have the music and the memories which is really all we ever had except now it's finite. No new memories, performances, etc.

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