phatphuk said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

These comments by the inimitable Leonard Cohen seems more than a little apropo for this discussion…

Leonard Cohen says he’s “ready to die” — Legendary singer comes to terms with mortality…

…Leonard Cohen has seen a lot of life and made a lot of music, but…he’s finally coming to terms with the fact that it may all be over soon…

…Cohen confirms that his touring days may be coming to a close and that he’s now more or less “confined to barracks” on account of his health…

…[Cohen] opened his eyes, paused awhile. Then he said, “I don’t think I’ll be able to finish those songs. Maybe, who knows? And maybe I’ll get a second wind, I don’t know. But I don’t dare attach myself to a spiritual strategy. I don’t dare do that. I’ve got some work to do. Take care of business. I am ready to die. I hope it’s not too uncomfortable. That’s about it for me.”…

…“The big change is the proximity to death,” he reflects. “I am a tidy kind of guy. I like to tie up the strings if I can. If I can’t, also, that’s OK. But my natural thrust is to finish things that I’ve begun”…

…That activity at certain points of your day or night insists on a certain kind of response. Sometimes it’s just like: ‘You are losing too much weight, Leonard. You’re dying, but you don’t have to coöperate enthusiastically with the process.’ Force yourself to have a sandwich…

How does that line in Zep's Stairway To Heaven go?

<lyrics>“…Oooooo, It really makes me wonder…”</lyrics>

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

-Stop with the future Queen nonsense. He blew it with every women he was with so if he had no it was by choice.

I happen to know that the right woman would've made him very happy. But she would've had to have things that no one else has. She would have to be the "full package". That person couldn't make it to him. If you'd done your homework, you'd know that. [Edited 10/12/16 10:53am]

I would tend to agree with what you're saying Angel. Furthermore, I would say that he was looking, and not only waiting for his future Queen because of the following:

1. I think he was in love with Judith Hill, or at least he had a big, big crush. There was a post last may by Wizardtelly IIRC, post saying that there was a young artistic lady (not very well known) that had his... attention, let's say. In a post on FB on May 14/16, she said that P once told her that he wanted to take up all of her time and that he wanted to be the only one she would hang out with;

2. AOA and the song Breakdown, and the last verse particularly;

3. a post he made on Princestagram on Nov 17/15 with the caption U WOULD CALL THIS ONE? referring to WDYCMA. I know that his captions were funny or cryptic but this one didn't seem to be, to me at least. Just direct;

4. during one P&M in Sydney last Feb, he did a shortened version of JIRep. Just listen to him at the end, he seems to be longing for love. It's heartwrenching;

So, yes, I think he wanted to be in love with someone.

And please describe "full package" for us.

2004Fan said:

I see the org matchmakers are still in action...

anangellooksdown said:

2004Fan said:

I would tend to agree with what you're saying Angel. Furthermore, I would say that he was looking, and not only waiting for his future Queen because of the following:

1. I think he was in love with Judith Hill, or at least he had a big, big crush. There was a post last may by Wizardtelly IIRC, post saying that there was a young artistic lady (not very well known) that had his... attention, let's say. In a post on FB on May 14/16, she said that P once told her that he wanted to take up all of her time and that he wanted to be the only one she would hang out with;

2. AOA and the song Breakdown, and the last verse particularly;

3. a post he made on Princestagram on Nov 17/15 with the caption U WOULD CALL THIS ONE? referring to WDYCMA. I know that his captions were funny or cryptic but this one didn't seem to be, to me at least. Just direct;

4. during one P&M in Sydney last Feb, he did a shortened version of JIRep. Just listen to him at the end, he seems to be longing for love. It's heartwrenching;

So, yes, I think he wanted to be in love with someone.

And please describe "full package" for us.

I saw the Instagram post and didn't see any thing about it except him asking what we'd call that photo, one of many he posted. Am I missing something? And what is WDYCMA? No idea. JIR in Sydney sounded normal to me. It was beautifully done but again, I didn't pick up anything about him particularly yearning for love for himself there... The full package would he someone older who is very spiritual, beautiful, sexy, sensual, kind, confident, has some kind of talent or at least "gets" music on an experiential basis (actual experience) - but most of all puts God first. Someone strong but humble. Someone who helps others. Someone with a lot of wisdom. There's nothing more attractive than a spiritual woman. If you take a look at his last RS interview (the "lost" one), that shows a LOT of clues as to how he was thinking, at least a few years ago. [Edited 10/12/16 16:38pm]

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Well, Prince had so many "females" in his life, it's hard to know what he was searching for. He always hung around younger women. His ex-wife Manuela was more mature, and he seemed very happy with her. As of late, he was very fond of "Tamron Hall" (NBC), and she said he called her every day. He was mentoring Judith Hill and others. There's that singer from the UK too; I can't think of her name at the moment.

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I wish he had that special someone in his life.

purplethunder3121 said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

-Stop with the future Queen nonsense. He blew it with every women he was with so if he had no it was by choice.

I happen to know that the right woman would've made him very happy. But she would've had to have things that no one else has. She would have to be the "full package". That person couldn't make it to him. If you'd done your homework, you'd know that. [Edited 10/12/16 10:53am]

No women is going to be the right women if you run around with 10 others. This is the same old thing guys do. It is always the women were not right maybe men should spend time trying to work on themselves before looking for some perfect women. If P wanted to stay married he would have tried to make it work.

anangellooksdown said:

2004Fan said:

I would tend to agree with what you're saying Angel. Furthermore, I would say that he was looking, and not only waiting for his future Queen because of the following:

1. I think he was in love with Judith Hill, or at least he had a big, big crush. There was a post last may by Wizardtelly IIRC, post saying that there was a young artistic lady (not very well known) that had his... attention, let's say. In a post on FB on May 14/16, she said that P once told her that he wanted to take up all of her time and that he wanted to be the only one she would hang out with;

2. AOA and the song Breakdown, and the last verse particularly;

3. a post he made on Princestagram on Nov 17/15 with the caption U WOULD CALL THIS ONE? referring to WDYCMA. I know that his captions were funny or cryptic but this one didn't seem to be, to me at least. Just direct;

4. during one P&M in Sydney last Feb, he did a shortened version of JIRep. Just listen to him at the end, he seems to be longing for love. It's heartwrenching;

So, yes, I think he wanted to be in love with someone.

And please describe "full package" for us.

I saw the Instagram post and didn't see any thing about it except him asking what we'd call that photo, one of many he posted. Am I missing something? And what is WDYCMA? No idea.

Sorry, my mistake. Should've been HCYDCMA, How come you don't call me anymore. I understood his caption as IF we/u would call this one, not as what or how. Totally subjective on my part.

JIR in Sydney sounded normal to me. It was beautifully done but again, I didn't pick up anything about him particularly yearning for love for himself there... Again, totally subjective. The 4 last LOVE MEs are full of emotion, the last he whispered just like if it was him looking for love... I never heard him sing this song this way..

The full package would he someone older who is very spiritual, beautiful, sexy, sensual, kind, confident, has some kind of talent or at least "gets" music on an experiential basis (actual experience) - but most of all puts God first. Someone strong but humble. Someone who helps others. Someone with a lot of wisdom. There's nothing more attractive than a spiritual woman. If you take a look at his last RS interview (the "lost" one), that shows a LOT of clues as to how he was thinking, at least a few years ago. [Edited 10/12/16 16:38pm] As Laurie as said, this would be the perfect woman.

Also, you said "I happen to know that the right woman would've made him very happy". I agree with you but what did you mean by "I happen to know"? Someone told you or "you have done your homework"?

P.S.: Please bear with me as english is not my 1st language.

And thnx for ur reply.

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cloveringold85 said:

There's that singer from the UK too; I can't think of her name at the moment.

I believe her name is Delilah.

cloveringold85 said:

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Well, Prince had so many "females" in his life, it's hard to know what he was searching for. He always hung around younger women. His ex-wife Manuela was more mature, and he seemed very happy with her. As of late, he was very fond of "Tamron Hall" (NBC), and she said he called her every day. He was mentoring Judith Hill and others. There's that singer from the UK too; I can't think of her name at the moment.

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I wish he had that special someone in his life.

Why are the word females and Tamron Hall in quotation marks?

This is one of the many things the sister knew, when she said, “I've known for 2 years”…

By Amy Forliti and Michael Tarm — Aug. 23, 2016 11:09 AM EDT

Counterfeit pain pills likely came to Prince illegally

"…MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The disclosure that some pills found at Prince's Paisley Park home and studio were counterfeit and contained the powerful synthetic opioid fentanyl strongly suggests the pills came to the superstar musician illegally.

But exactly how Prince obtained the drugs is still unknown, four months after he collapsed in an elevator on April 21 and died of an accidental fentanyl overdose. Authorities have so far revealed little about their investigation, saying it's active and moving forward.

Former prosecutors and defense attorneys who are familiar with drug investigations say it's likely someone will be prosecuted, whether or not Prince knew he was consuming illegal drugs.

“They will not say it was just Prince's fault and let it go at that,” said Phil Turner, a former federal prosecutor in Chicago now in private practice.

An official close to the investigation told The Associated Press on Sunday that some of the pills found at Paisley Park were falsely labeled as a common generic painkiller similar to Vicodin but actually contained fentanyl. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, also said that records show Prince did not have a prescription for any controlled substances in Minnesota in the last 12 months.

The only way to get fentanyl — a synthetic opioid that is 50 times more powerful than heroin — is through a legal prescription, or illegally from the black market, said Joe Tamburino, a Minnesota defense attorney.

“When you have weird stamped pills in aspirin bottles, sometimes things {ARE} what they seem, which is illegally obtained controlled substances,” Tamburino said. “How he got them? Who knows.”

Fentanyl has been responsible for a surge in overdose deaths in some parts of the country. When made into counterfeit pills, users don't always know they're taking fentanyl, increasing the risk of fatal overdose.

Tamburino, who is not connected to the Prince case, said investigators will likely talk to those close to Prince, and they'll also search the computers, phones and communications of Prince and his associates, to see whether the pills were purchased online. Those searches would typically involve examining text messages, Instagram messages and other communications.

“This is not to say the people close to him are guilty — we have no idea of that. But that's where it would start,” Tamburino said. He also added that investigators are probably looking at security footage from Paisley Park, if any exists, to see who might have been going to and from the studio.

Gal Pissetzky, a defense attorney in Chicago, said there are many ways Prince could have obtained the drugs: from a close adviser or friend, from a dealer on one of the stops he made as he was on tour, or over the Internet. He added that investigators might also use cellphone data to track Prince's whereabouts.

If someone gave Prince the drug that killed him, that person could face a third-degree murder charge, punishable in the state of Minnesota by more than 12 years in prison, Tamburino said.

In addition, any illegal operation that involved making and dealing fentanyl could open many people up to a host of drug charges, from trafficking to conspiracy. Because the sale resulted in Prince's death, it would increase the chances that someone could get the maximum sentence of life in prison if convicted, Turner said.

Turner said he believed there was a good chance someone will eventually be charged. Improved forensics tools, including the ability to use narcotics chemical signatures to narrow down possible manufacturers, also increase the chances of arrests.

If China- or Mexico-based producers were involved, American authorities may have to focus on a dealer or doctor in the U.S. who supplied the drugs knowing the substance was illegal, Turner said. But U.S. agents can and do go after suspects based in countries not inclined to closely cooperate with law enforcement here, such as China.

The drugs could also be made by people who are not associated with cartels. Enticed by big profits, small-time drug dealers are buying pill presses online and using low-cost fentanyl powder from China to make fake pills, according to a July 2016 Drug Enforcement Administration intelligence brief.

Dealers unaffiliated with drug cartels can buy a kilogram of fentanyl powder for a few thousand dollars from a Chinese supplier and turn it into hundreds of thousands of counterfeit pills for millions of dollars in profit.

But inexperience has a cost. The small-time operators aren't mixing fentanyl correctly and turning out pills with varying strengths, some containing three times a lethal dose. “Such wide disparity in dosing reveals that the producers were likely new to incorporating fentanyl in pill production, as the fentanyl was not thoroughly mixed with the other powders before binding and pressing into pills,” the DEA brief said.

Pissetzky said news of the falsely labeled drugs tells him that the pills did not come from a doctor.

“There's a big, big black market for counterfeit drugs. When people buy these, they don't personally know, many times, that they are not the real thing, and that's when you get overdoses,” Pissetzky said…"

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laurarichardson said:

2004Fan said:

laurarichardson said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said: I happen to know that the right woman would've made him very happy. But she would've had to have things that no one else has. She would have to be the "full package". That person couldn't make it to him. If you'd done your homework, you'd know that. [Edited 10/12/16 10:53am]

No women is going to be the right women if you run around with 10 others. This is the same old thing guys do. It is always the women were not right maybe men should spend time trying to work on themselves before looking for some perfect women. If P wanted to stay married he would have tried to make it work.

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Prince's music always came first.....women, second. Any woman who chose to be with Prince, had to accept that fact, although it's certainly not easy. I know it wouldn't be easy for me.

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Sheila E. even said she could not marry Prince because of his "adulterous" ways. I mean, to have that constant fear in your mind "is he cheating on me." That's just too much to take!

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This is another one of the many things the sister knew, when she said, “I've known for 2 years”…

By Amy Forliti and Michael Tarm — Jun. 3, 2016 10:01 AM EDT

Finding overdose killed Prince just the beginning of probe

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Word from authorities that Prince died of an overdose of fentanyl, a powerful opioid that is up to 50 times more potent than heroin, is far from the end of the investigation. In some ways, it's just the beginning.

After Thursday's announcement about the superstar's death, investigators in the months to come will try to determine whether the singer had a prescription for the drug or whether it was supplied illegally. If it's the latter, someone could face criminal charges carrying years, or even decades, in prison.

Prince was found dead April 21 at his Minneapolis-area estate, and at least one friend has said he suffered from intense knee and hip pain from many years of performances.

Although the death was formally ruled an accident, that merely signified that it was not intentional and does not preclude a criminal prosecution.

According to a one-page report released by a medical examiner, Prince administered the drug himself on an unknown date. The office said the death investigation is complete, and it had no further comment.

Confirmation that Prince died of an opioid overdose was first reported by The Associated Press. The autopsy report was released hours later.

Fentanyl is a synthetic painkiller. Patients who have built up a tolerance to other prescription painkillers sometimes seek it out, and it is partly responsible for a recent surge in overdose deaths in some parts of the country. Because of its risks, it is tightly controlled by the Food and Drug Administration, but much of it is manufactured illegally.

Kent Bailey, head of the DEA in Minneapolis, said the agency will continue investigating along with Carver County authorities and the U.S. Attorney's Office. He declined to offer details, but said “rest assured, we will be thorough.”

Legal experts say the focus of the investigation will now probably turn to whether the source or sources of the fentanyl were legal or not. Often, such investigations include grand jury subpoenas for records or for testimony from individuals.

Authorities may also look to the singer's associates.

“The investigation may expand to people who surround him,” said Gal Pissetzky, a Chicago-based attorney who has represented multiple clients facing drug charges who has no link to Prince. “If fentanyl was obtained illegally, I don't think Prince would have gone out to meet someone in a dark alley to get the substance.”

If a street dealer was the source, identifying that person won't be easy.

“It'll be very, very difficult,” he said. “These guys don't write receipts, and they change phones all the time.”

Illegally distributing fentanyl to someone who then dies from it is punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence of 20 years under federal law. Under Minnesota law, the same actions can result in third-degree murder charges and up to 25 years in prison.

Prince, 57, died less than a week after his plane made an emergency stop in Moline, Illinois, for medical treatment as he was returning from an Atlanta concert. The Associated Press and other media reported, based on anonymous sources, that he was found unconscious on the plane, and first responders gave him a shot of Narcan, an antidote used in suspected opioid overdoses.

The names of at least two doctors have come up in the death investigation.

Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg, a family practitioner, treated Prince twice in the weeks before his death and told investigators he prescribed medications for the singer, according to a search warrant that did not specify which medications.

Schulenberg saw Prince April 7 and April 20 — the day before his death — according to the warrant. Schulenberg's attorney, Amy Conners, said the doctor was interviewed by investigators April 21, right after Prince's death, but has had “no further requests from investigators” since. She declined to comment further.

Dr. Howard Kornfeld, a California addiction specialist, was asked by Prince's representatives on April 20 to help the singer.

Kornfeld sent his son Andrew on a flight that night, and Andrew Kornfeld was among the people who found Prince's body the next morning, according to Kornfeld's attorney, William Mauzy.

The younger Kornfeld, who is not a doctor, was carrying a medication that can be used to treat opioid addiction, Mauzy said, explaining that Andrew Kornfeld intended to give the medication to a Minnesota doctor who had cleared his schedule to see Prince on April 21.

Mauzy has refused to identify that doctor. Schulenberg is not authorized to prescribe buprenorphine.

On Thursday, Mauzy said his clients never delivered, dispensed or administered any medication to Prince. The Kornfelds “were simply trying to help,” he said.

Prince's death came two weeks after he canceled concerts in Atlanta, saying he wasn't feeling well. He played a pair of makeup shows, and then came the emergency landing in Moline. He canceled two shows in St. Louis shortly before his death.

The superstar had a reputation for clean living, and some friends said they never saw any sign of drug use.

Longtime friend and collaborator Sheila E. has told the AP that Prince had physical issues from performing, citing hip and knee problems that she said came from years of jumping off risers and stage speakers in heels.

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Prince autopsy report:

The one-page report relea... examiner,

TopazGirl said:

teach49 said:

Can you say how you know she was legitimate? I'm just curious.

On the one hand, it sounds like a crazy story that she just made up. OTOH, it also sounds just like something Prince would do (tell an acquaintance not to travel to abroad and why but not tell someone like JH).

If she is legit, then Prince should have picked his friends better since this one had loose lips lol.

Having better friends have nothing to do with it. We all knew how Prince was. If he wanted to do something he did it. Nobody could stop him or tell him nothin.

TurnItUp said:

TopazGirl said:

If she is legit, then Prince should have picked his friends better since this one had loose lips lol.

Having better friends have nothing to do with it. We all knew how Prince was. If he wanted to do something he did it. Nobody could stop him or tell him nothin.

Hey there TurnItUp, I guess I don't understand your reply. I was referring to this supposed woman that was on this forum saying that she knew Prince was dying and some on here were saying she was legit. My thoughts were that if she was legit, then Prince should have picked better friends that would keep that quiet since if it were true, I doubt Prince would want someone on this forum talking about it. We have not heard any of his verified close friends talking in this manner about Prince after all. It was me joking a bit (in my post above) and trying to say that "hey, I doubt this woman is real since I don't think a real friend would do something like that", etc. That's all I meant.

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Never mind.

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TopazGirl said:

TurnItUp said:

Having better friends have nothing to do with it. We all knew how Prince was. If he wanted to do something he did it. Nobody could stop him or tell him nothin.

Hey there TurnItUp, I guess I don't understand your reply. I was referring to this supposed woman that was on this forum saying that she knew Prince was dying and some on here were saying she was legit. My thoughts were that if she was legit, then Prince should have picked better friends that would keep that quiet since if it were true, I doubt Prince would want someone on this forum talking about it. We have not heard any of his verified close friends talking in this manner about Prince after all. It was me joking a bit (in my post above) and trying to say that "hey, I doubt this woman is real since I don't think a real friend would do something like that", etc. That's all I meant.

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I thought you meant not having "yes men" around him. Sorry if I didn't read the previous post. But about the "loose lip friends" that's just gonna be. He's gonna have his people that won't talk and say a word and there will be the loose lip people. That's how you find out who's real and who's not.

Neal Karlen, the writer, said Prince had a history of being lonely and/or depressed. It went back years. There were some comments, after April 21, which said that Prince was depressed about his career ... that it had become stagnant. Frankly, anyone who put out AOA two years ago shouldn't be concerned about stagnancy - that album is a masterpiece. The only people who know what was going on aren't talking. But Judith Hill got pride of place in The New York Times article (the main photo) on the tribute concert, so she made a good connection there.

I don't want the poster to feel I am being personally critical but wanted to address the remarks, so the poster's name has been removed.

The only people who know what was going on aren't talking.

Not openly in public anyway.

But Judith Hill...

JH lost credibility and my regard with her NYT's plane article. When associates/proteges/muses/whoever are promoting anything of theirs while talking about what they know about Prince (especially in this particular instance), well...... eyerolls and sideyes aimed their way from me. It's clearly done for self-promotion in my eyes and that's exactly what I felt happened in that article. Good luck to her with her "connection". My opinion and I am completely fine with it if others don't agree.

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anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

No women is going to be the right women if you run around with 10 others. This is the same old thing guys do. It is always the women were not right maybe men should spend time trying to work on themselves before looking for some perfect women. If P wanted to stay married he would have tried to make it work.

Wow. That's a lot of blanket-statementing. I hope you give a good guy a chance someday because they are out there. But most of us don't WANT those ones; we want the JERKS, which makes us jerks for wanting them, and is probably why i am suddenly seeing gifs on FB of Prince whacking Appolonia around and the girls liking it. I guess we could all use a little treatment, buoys and gulls alike. And we all know P wanted to stay married to Manuela. Probably Mayte too, but things happened.

If he wanted to stay married to Mayte, then he shouldn't have had all the affairs while he was married.

As far as Manuela is concerned, if he wanted it bad enough he would've made it work.

PennyPurple said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said: Wow. That's a lot of blanket-statementing. I hope you give a good guy a chance someday because they are out there. But most of us don't WANT those ones; we want the JERKS, which makes us jerks for wanting them, and is probably why i am suddenly seeing gifs on FB of Prince whacking Appolonia around and the girls liking it. I guess we could all use a little treatment, buoys and gulls alike. And we all know P wanted to stay married to Manuela. Probably Mayte too, but things happened.

If he wanted to stay married to Mayte, then he shouldn't have had all the affairs while he was married.

As far as Manuela is concerned, if he wanted it bad enough he would've made it work.

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Prince didn't want to divorce Manuela; she filed for divorce, not him.

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As for his marriage to Mayte, Prince himself even said "Marriage was the last thing on his mind." Furthermore, they had an "open marriage".

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Personally, I think P was happiest with Manuela. He seemed very happy with Bria Valente too, but things didn't work out there either.

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flyscdiva said:

1Sasha said:

Neal Karlen, the writer, said Prince had a history of being lonely and/or depressed. It went back years. There were some comments, after April 21, which said that Prince was depressed about his career ... that it had become stagnant. Frankly, anyone who put out AOA two years ago shouldn't be concerned about stagnancy - that album is a masterpiece. The only people who know what was going on aren't talking. But Judith Hill got pride of place in The New York Times article (the main photo) on the tribute concert, so she made a good connection there.

Thanks for the info. Yup that what I thought Prince had history of depression and that shouldnt be overlook.

laurarichardson said: