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It seems that Queslove has put his hands on studio Prince vocal version of The Scream of Passions (Not the Rehearsal!)

Has he been in the Vault or What??

https://mobile.twitter.co...88/video/1

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Reply #1 posted 07/21/16 6:17am

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Holy, so much better than St Paul, and considering the track was already a classic.

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Reply #2 posted 07/21/16 6:23am

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That's one of those songs I've always maintained if people had a Prince vocal it would skyrocket up some Top 5s. One of the best songs he'd ever written.

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Reply #3 posted 07/21/16 6:28am

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Thanks - this is dope!!! cool

Prince was so on fire in 86 - Parade...Hit N Runs...Cobo...The Family

My fave!!!!

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Reply #4 posted 07/21/16 6:35am

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hmmm

Is it possible that he is mixing officially released studio tracks with outtakes or rehearsals? From the audio quality on the video it's hard to say.
He is MIXING after all... cool




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Reply #5 posted 07/21/16 6:57am

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I think that one was already circulating although I don't remember for sure.

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Reply #6 posted 07/21/16 7:06am

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FunkiestOne said:

I think that one was already circulating although I don't remember for sure.

2 my ears clearly this is an unreleased Studio Prince version of the song...not a mix from the official/Rehearsal one already known!

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Reply #7 posted 07/21/16 7:10am

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What was the secoond song played?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #8 posted 07/21/16 7:21am

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bluegangsta said:

What was the secoond song played?


Yo Mister
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Reply #9 posted 07/21/16 7:43am

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what the heck he has Yo Mister too? I have been wanting to hear Princes version of that song for decades.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #10 posted 07/21/16 7:56am

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Reply #11 posted 07/21/16 7:56am

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love2thenines2003 said:

FunkiestOne said:

I think that one was already circulating although I don't remember for sure.

2 my ears clearly this is an unreleased Studio Prince version of the song...not a mix from the official/Rehearsal one already known!


2 my ears, nothing can be said "clearly" about what we are hearing on this audience recording made from across the room on a cellphone. It's not enough to make the call in my opinion.

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Reply #12 posted 07/21/16 8:07am

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djThunderfunk said:

love2thenines2003 said:

2 my ears clearly this is an unreleased Studio Prince version of the song...not a mix from the official/Rehearsal one already known!


2 my ears, nothing can be said "clearly" about what we are hearing on this audience recording made from across the room on a cellphone. It's not enough to make the call in my opinion.

The fact that he has Yo Mister studio version, which is also uncirculating, leads me to believe that The Screams of Passion is the studio version. It honestly sounds that way to my ears as well.

So the question is, where did he get this stuff, how did he get it, and why does 'he' have it while nobody else seems to?

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Reply #13 posted 07/21/16 8:13am

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leadline said:

what the heck he has Yo Mister too? I have been wanting to hear Princes version of that song for decades.


I'm not sure that the part of Yo Mister that Questlove played was not just Prince's background vocals from Patti's version. He only brought in the hook.
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Reply #14 posted 07/21/16 8:17am

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iZsaZsa said:

leadline said:

what the heck he has Yo Mister too? I have been wanting to hear Princes version of that song for decades.

I'm not sure that the part of Yo Mister that Questlove played was not just Prince's background vocals from Patti's version. He only brought in the hook.


Definitely sounds like the Prince version. As we know, he does the songs firsts, some not even beyond demo form, and submits them to the artist to learn the song. That is what this sounds like to me, the stripped down version that Patti would have received from Prince. That is easier for me to believe that Questlove somehow having the isolated Prince vocal track from the Patti version. I say Patti version loosely since Prince is playing all instruments on her version.

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Reply #15 posted 07/21/16 8:25am

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Is this circulating?
"I like to watch."
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Reply #16 posted 07/21/16 8:26am

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leadline said:



iZsaZsa said:


leadline said:

what the heck he has Yo Mister too? I have been wanting to hear Princes version of that song for decades.



I'm not sure that the part of Yo Mister that Questlove played was not just Prince's background vocals from Patti's version. He only brought in the hook.


Definitely sounds like the Prince version. As we know, he does the songs firsts, some not even beyond demo form, and submits them to the artist to learn the song. That is what this sounds like to me, the stripped down version that Patti would have received from Prince. That is easier for me to believe that Questlove somehow having the isolated Prince vocal track from the Patti version. I say Patti version loosely since Prince is playing all instruments on her version.


Prince vs. Patti. Bring it on!
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Reply #17 posted 07/21/16 8:30am

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eek cool love it music headbang

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Reply #18 posted 07/21/16 8:30am

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Come on, Q! Spread the purple love!
"I like to watch."
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Reply #19 posted 07/21/16 8:37am

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sulls said:

Come on, Q! Spread the purple love!


He wont, he wants to be the guy that has the stuff that nobody else does, while teasing them every now and then about it.

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Reply #20 posted 07/21/16 8:44am

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Q - don't make me pull out the "punk o' the month" chant onya! biggrin
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Reply #21 posted 07/21/16 9:02am

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Doesn't he have 'Wallly' too? Man, this guy. He needs to organize a tribute concert one day. But he is basically the reason that the Fallon show is watchable. If it were not for The Roots on that show, I might not tune in. Also, Questlove is pretty cool. He once let me in to a sold out show because I was wearing a Prince t-shirt that he liked. Then inside the show, he even said at one point "I see we have some Prince fans here". This was a project of his called The Philadelphia Experiment.

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Reply #22 posted 07/21/16 10:24am

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iZsaZsa said:

leadline said: I'm not sure that the part of Yo Mister that Questlove played was not just Prince's background vocals from Patti's version. He only brought in the hook.


Definitely sounds like the Prince version. As we know, he does the songs firsts, some not even beyond demo form, and submits them to the artist to learn the song. That is what this sounds like to me, the stripped down version that Patti would have received from Prince. That is easier for me to believe that Questlove somehow having the isolated Prince vocal track from the Patti version. I say Patti version loosely since Prince is playing all instruments on her version.

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P's version (recorded Fall 1986) is complete in production as to Patti's 1989 release. I would consider it a finished take, suitable for release, and a missed commercial opportunity in 1987.

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An excellent radio track that didn't have a particular goodness of fit to any of his projects of the time, and was disregarded as he moved on in other directions.

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Although some of his female associated-artist tracks were written and recorded specifically with such a vocalist in mind, I believe this one was one of his own outtakes kindly given to Patti after languishing in the Vault for a couple of years.

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Patti's version is very good in and of itself, but as a P release it would have been a chartbuster. Most assuredly a Billboard Pop and R&B crossover Top 10. Patti's release did earn a 6 on the R&B Charts in 1989; nevertheless, this simply isn't a very well-remembered track all these years later.

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The extended mixes of Patti's release feature small excerpts where P's vocal tracks are left mostly intact.

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imprimis said:

The extended mixes of Patti's release feature small excerpts where P's vocal tracks are left mostly intact.


And that portion could easily be the source for what we hear in this mix. No?

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Reply #24 posted 07/21/16 10:36am

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djThunderfunk said:

imprimis said:

The extended mixes of Patti's release feature small excerpts where P's vocal tracks are left mostly intact.


And that portion could easily be the source for what we hear in this mix. No?

No, he clearly has a full P-vocal take of the track.

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Reply #25 posted 07/21/16 10:38am

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imprimis said:

leadline said:


Definitely sounds like the Prince version. As we know, he does the songs firsts, some not even beyond demo form, and submits them to the artist to learn the song. That is what this sounds like to me, the stripped down version that Patti would have received from Prince. That is easier for me to believe that Questlove somehow having the isolated Prince vocal track from the Patti version. I say Patti version loosely since Prince is playing all instruments on her version.

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P's version (recorded Fall 1986) is complete in production as to Patti's 1989 release. I would consider it a finished take, suitable for release, and a missed commercial opportunity in 1987.

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An excellent radio track that didn't have a particular goodness of fit to any of his projects of the time, and was disregarded as he moved on in other directions.

.

Although some of his female associated-artist tracks were written and recorded specifically with such a vocalist in mind, I believe this one was one of his own outtakes kindly given to Patti after languishing in the Vault for a couple of years.

.

Patti's version is very good in and of itself, but as a P release it would have been a chartbuster. Most assuredly a Billboard Pop and R&B crossover Top 10.

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The extended mixes of Patti's release feature small excerpts where P's vocal tracks are left mostly intact.

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Yeah I could agree that it could have been an outake that was just shelved and then given to Patti.

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imprimis said:

djThunderfunk said:


And that portion could easily be the source for what we hear in this mix. No?

No, he clearly has a full P-vocal take of the track.


I'm not saying he does or he doesn't. In my opinion nothing in clear from this video. Maybe someone who was present at the event could opine?

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Reply #27 posted 07/21/16 10:46am

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djThunderfunk said:

imprimis said:

No, he clearly has a full P-vocal take of the track.


I'm not saying he does or he doesn't. In my opinion nothing in clear from this video. Maybe someone who was present at the event could opine?

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He had something of a personal acquaintanceship with Prince, he discusses 'Wally', he has played other outtakes or versions of songs unavailable to the general fan/collector community. He has industry connections.

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He's played P's take of 'The Screams of Passion' a number of times over the past several years. I believe it was played from beginning to end at a party about three years ago. This is the first time someone has leaked a recording of it, captured on their phone, here in a DJ mix (it's unclear from the muddled sound quality whether this has the Clare Fischer overdubs). What I can hear is that P's on both main and background vocals. And the whole nature of the performance is exactly as I had always imagined it would be.

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I see no reason to believe that he wouldn't have this track as well, one that would be inconsequential to many people. He's likely received some of these things from very high-in-the-food-chain traders, and some even with P's blessing directly from P's own people, or the associates thereof.

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His fetish seems to be in the original recordings of songs partially squandered on underperforming third-party associates and acts.

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Reply #28 posted 07/21/16 10:52am

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The more I listen to it and the more I think about the fact that Quest is one of the most well-known superfans as well as friends with many of the people that might have unleaked tracks laying around, the more I think that he probably does have something that we don't...

That said, I still maintain that it is possible for a dj of his talents to manipulate elements from several sources to create a mix that was good enough to sound like something new. Unfortunately I can't make a definitive call from the quality of the sample we have access to.

Regardless, I suspect everyone is correct and Quest is holding out on us. Seems the most likely scenario anyway... wink

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imprimis said:

djThunderfunk said:


I'm not saying he does or he doesn't. In my opinion nothing in clear from this video. Maybe someone who was present at the event could opine?

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He had something of a personal acquaintanceship with Prince, he discusses 'Wally', he has played other outtakes or versions of songs unavailable to the general fan/collector community. He's played P's take of 'The Screams of Passion' a number of times over the past several years. This is the first time someone has captured a recording of it, here in a DJ mix. He has industry connections. I see no reason to believe that he wouldn't have this track that would be inconsequential to many people. He's likely received some of these things from very high-in-the-food-chain traders, and some even with P's blessing directly from P's own people, or the associates thereof.

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I agree with all this and suspect you are correct. I just wish it sounded good enough to be "clear" to me as it is to you. biggrin

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