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Thread started 07/10/16 7:53am

feeluupp

PHASE 1 > PHASE 2

In the beginning we all said the first half of Phase 1 was a confused mismash of edm music that went wrong...

However a year later, I personally feel PHASE 1 is a better album than PHASE 2.

Why...

Phase 1 has more energy, which all the great PRINCE albums always had. PHASE 2 is bland, has a few good moments like REVELATION, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT U, GROOVY POTENTIAL... But that whole album is just boring, non adventerous, hotel elevator music...

PHASE 1 contains this raw energy from start to finish. I'm not saying every track is great, however HARDROCKLOVER, 1000 X'S & 0'S, JUNE eclipse anything on PHASE 2 IMO.

I'm really digging PHASE 1, even gonna buy the bootleg vinyl on eBAY. lol

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Reply #1 posted 07/10/16 9:50am

trickster

interesting, i hated Phase 1 for the same resons when it came out but now it works for me...

with "fall in love tonight" i thougt prince lost his mind completely and i was thinking about left the prince world lol

and today - even this song works on the album for me...

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Reply #2 posted 07/10/16 10:03am

purplethunder3
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No.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #3 posted 07/10/16 10:14am

runningbear

Well maybe, Phase 1 may have higher highs, but the best of both is still groovy potential, enjoy the ones you mentioned, but also got add extralovable as highlight.

Guess Phase 1 is the stronger grower, but Phase 2 still ahead by a nose, best later album by a wide margin to my ears is 3121, sounds so fresh if you have not given a listen in awhile

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Reply #4 posted 07/10/16 11:52am

VelvetKittyKat

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Still don't care for Phase 1. Happy to have Phase 2, tho!
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Reply #5 posted 07/10/16 12:43pm

EmmaMcG

I still really dislike the majority of Phase 1. 1000 Hugs and kisses is the only song I still listen to. I love that song. When the album came out I was very disappointed. The first track barely even features Prince. Then, following that, come some of the very worst songs I think he's ever done. From Fallinlove onwards, the album picks up but it's just not good enough. Like I say, 1000 Hugs and Kisses is the best song on the album.
Phase 2 didn't start much better either, opening with Baltimore. I appreciate the sentiment behind the song, but the song itself is not something I could listen to. The rest of Phase 2, though, features some of my favourite Prince songs. Look at Me, Look at U, Groovy Potential, Revelation, When She Comes, Big City, Stare, 2Y2D and Xtralovable are very, very good songs. I don't understand how some people can refer to them as boring, or as elevator music.
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Reply #6 posted 07/10/16 12:46pm

tish9311

I went from Phase 2 to Phase 1 than back to 3121. I forgot how good that album was. headbang

Beautiful, Loved and Blessed

Thank You Prince
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Reply #7 posted 07/10/16 12:48pm

Guitarhero

Phase 2

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Reply #8 posted 07/10/16 12:50pm

TheEnglishGent

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feeluupp said:

In the beginning we all said the first half of Phase 1 was a confused mismash of edm music that went wrong...


Why do people make these stupid statements like, 'we all said'?

No, we all certainly did not say that. There may have been a large number of people expressing their dislike but some of us loved it from the start.

RIP sad
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Reply #9 posted 07/10/16 1:14pm

anangellooksdo
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If you like to sing, keep giving Baltimore a chance.
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Reply #10 posted 07/10/16 1:29pm

gandorb

Phase 2 strikes my fancy quite a bit more than phaze1. 2 is much more musical and more consistent than much of his later work. He played a key role in developing those wonderful arrangements. He seems refreshingly mature on it, which makes sense given he was 57 at the time. I do agree that phase 1 has some highlights, but overall still seems rather generic musically. I am glad that there are fans for each of them.
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Reply #11 posted 07/10/16 1:40pm

dodger

I agree Hardrocklover, 1000 Hugs & Kisses and June are great tracks but as an album I still prefer Phase 2 by a long way. And murph's Vibe article makes me appreciate it even more.
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The only negative for Phase 2 is the fact we'd had half the tracks for a long time in some cases.
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Reply #12 posted 07/10/16 2:38pm

RJOrion

dodger said:

I agree Hardrocklover, 1000 Hugs & Kisses and June are great tracks but as an album I still prefer Phase 2 by a long way. And murph's Vibe article makes me appreciate it even more. . The only negative for Phase 2 is the fact we'd had half the tracks for a long time in some cases.

that was my problem with it, too... it was never new.. made it feel like a compilation lp or a mixtape

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Reply #13 posted 07/10/16 2:43pm

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I prefer Phase 2 although it doesn't matter that much to me. Both albums are great.

full lips, freckles, and upturned nose
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Reply #14 posted 07/10/16 2:52pm

imago

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I'm not smart enough nor authoritative enough on such matters to say that it is better, but I can say that I enjoy it more than Phase II. I've played phase I several times without skipping tracks, while I only plaed Phase II all the way through once, and that was as background music while I was working.

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Reply #15 posted 07/10/16 4:30pm

bookwomen

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No I prefer Phase II and I listen to it more than Phase I.

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Reply #16 posted 07/10/16 5:24pm

ludwig

I still hate Phase 1 with a passion. There are only 4 tracks on it that I can listen to, and the best track is a rework from the early nineties.

Phase 2 is a much better album.

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Reply #17 posted 07/10/16 5:40pm

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I love Phase 1. I think Prince did such a good job promoting "real music" to the extent that maybe some of his later-era "computer" albums like Phase 1 don't get the love they should, when actually his drum machine / keyboard-based stuff was really what took him to the next level at the start of his career.

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Reply #18 posted 07/10/16 6:09pm

IstenSzek

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i've started to appreciate Phase 1 a bit more now that i've got used to it.

still can't listen to "million $ show". for me the album starts with "shut this down"

the rest is cool enough. i just had a problem with the remixes at first but now i've
got used to the album being what it is and can enjoy it without my own hang ups.

as such, it's a nice album which i play a lot, especially in the car.

Phase 2 i've liked from day 1. but i've stopped listening to it for a bit since i want
to have some 'new' tunes in the months to come, instead of overplaying it now.

as an album i think i like Phase 2 better. but the best back 2 back sequence for me
is still X'S FACE/HARDROCKLOVER.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #19 posted 07/10/16 6:27pm

ludwig

WhisperingDandelions said:

I love Phase 1. I think Prince did such a good job promoting "real music" to the extent that maybe some of his later-era "computer" albums like Phase 1 don't get the love they should, when actually his drum machine / keyboard-based stuff was really what took him to the next level at the start of his career.

It's not his production, Mr. Welton totally ruined the songs with "his" sound.

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Reply #20 posted 07/11/16 1:54am

thedance

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Phase 1 > Phase 2 nod


Phase 1: great album, great songs.... I love it all..

Phase 2: ZzZZzzzzZZzZZZZzzzz BORING

Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #21 posted 07/11/16 4:13am

Rimshottbob

Still don't understand why they have to be compared.... I love them both, for different reasons. One is looking at the music of the present and near future, one is a celebration of 70s funk and soul music...

They're supposed to be two very different records, two very different sides to Prince's musical character.... the whole point is that they're supposed to complement each other. Each song is on the album it's on because it works on that album better than it would on the other...

Two very different, hugely enjoyable albums.... why keep comparing?

Neither of them are boring, both contain some incredible material and performances, as well as some perhaps less successful moments... but what I love is that until the end, Prince was still trying things out, pushing himself, staying fresh, looking forward and back... that is what makes me happiest of all... on these records, he sounds fresher and looser than he had in years... even though I love Art Official Age, on that record he still sounds a little stiff at times... on the Hit N Runs he's just having a ball, and that comes through palpably, I feel.

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Reply #22 posted 07/11/16 5:01am

rainbowchild

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Love both albums. I listen to AOA with Phase 1 and Phase 2 as a triple album. cool
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #23 posted 07/11/16 5:18am

gandorb

Rimshottbob said:

Still don't understand why they have to be compared.... I love them both, for different reasons. One is looking at the music of the present and near future, one is a celebration of 70s funk and soul music...



They're supposed to be two very different records, two very different sides to Prince's musical character.... the whole point is that they're supposed to complement each other. Each song is on the album it's on because it works on that album better than it would on the other...



Two very different, hugely enjoyable albums.... why keep comparing?



Neither of them are boring, both contain some incredible material and performances, as well as some perhaps less successful moments... but what I love is that until the end, Prince was still trying things out, pushing himself, staying fresh, looking forward and back... that is what makes me happiest of all... on these records, he sounds fresher and looser than he had in years... even though I love Art Official Age, on that record he still sounds a little stiff at times... on the Hit N Runs he's just having a ball, and that comes through palpably, I feel.


I appreciate your perspective. I would add that his last 4 albums are so distinct from each other that I can't think of anyone else that could have pulled it off at any point of their career, much less their 37th-40th (?) albums. Remarkable.
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Reply #24 posted 07/11/16 7:51am

CAL3

i still believe 'Phase 1' rocks the hizzy from start to finish and is a stronger, more coherent album than it's follow up. My Fave P album since 'Lotus.'

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Reply #25 posted 07/11/16 9:50am

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CAL3 said:

i still believe 'Phase 1' rocks the hizzy from start to finish and is a stronger, more coherent album than it's follow up. My Fave P album since 'Lotus.'

Phase 1 fizzles the nizzle.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #26 posted 07/11/16 2:51pm

jasminejoey

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I prefer Phase 1. I was excited for what would come next sad . (And I don't mean Phase 2 which ostensibly predates Phase 1.)

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Reply #27 posted 07/12/16 1:36pm

WhisperingDand
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Rimshottbob said:

Still don't understand why they have to be compared.... I love them both, for different reasons. One is looking at the music of the present and near future, one is a celebration of 70s funk and soul music...

They're supposed to be two very different records, two very different sides to Prince's musical character.... the whole point is that they're supposed to complement each other. Each song is on the album it's on because it works on that album better than it would on the other...

Two very different, hugely enjoyable albums.... why keep comparing?

Neither of them are boring, both contain some incredible material and performances, as well as some perhaps less successful moments... but what I love is that until the end, Prince was still trying things out, pushing himself, staying fresh, looking forward and back... that is what makes me happiest of all... on these records, he sounds fresher and looser than he had in years... even though I love Art Official Age, on that record he still sounds a little stiff at times... on the Hit N Runs he's just having a ball, and that comes through palpably, I feel.

Yes. I have this same perspective, and think they're very, very fitting final releases (philosophically) as a result.


You get kind of both ends of the Prince dichotomy. One looking toward the future and the other looking toward the past, and together you get Prince's "musical character" as you put it.

[Edited 7/12/16 13:38pm]

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Reply #28 posted 07/12/16 2:15pm

Purpleone4Eva

Nope. Not in my opinion. There are 2 songs I like on Phase 1. Phase 2, I skip screwdriver, and can enjoy the rest. There are some songs on Phase 2 that i really love and I liked the direction he was going in.

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Reply #29 posted 07/12/16 2:28pm

Baduizm

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I like 'em both.

I'm in the news again
For paying dues my friend
And not the type of ganda U prop up in my way
Don't Play me
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