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Reply #810 posted 06/25/16 1:49pm

laytonian

Guitarhero said:

luv4u said:

No

It's called ignore them. cool

[Edited 6/25/16 13:18pm]

Yeah...no use to further entertain or feed it.

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Reply #811 posted 06/25/16 2:42pm

endiadj

morningsong said:

endiadj said:

maybe he didn't have a dependency/addiction problem until recently, so he didn't know any doctors who specialized in it and kirky did.



Not the dependency issues the original pain issues, there had to be some doctor at the beginning of all this. And any self respecting doctor would refer his patients to another doctor if they were retiring.


hmm if he did have hip surgery then that doctor would be the one with some answers. maybe after the surgery he took pain medication sporadically, so it wasn't an issue. then the pain returned and he got the meds again somehow instead of seeking out a pain specialist until it was too late.
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Reply #812 posted 06/25/16 4:31pm

wildgoldenhone
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luv4u said:



laytonian said:




udo said:



The topic lasts way too long and we cannot unsubscribe from it.


Judith gave her story and that was that but not for most people.


I just painted some circumstances that, together with Judith observations, lead to his demise.


You can rant about the subject but the subject is exactly that: the way he lived, what effect that had on people and also on himself.


Even Judith describes these effects.


If you think my statements are speculation then read again.


Then think again.




Is there a way to block people here?



No


Yes... If they cancel their account. nod
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Reply #813 posted 06/25/16 5:14pm

ACharmed1

wildgoldenhoney said:

luv4u said:

No

Yes... If they cancel their account. nod

lol lol U're awesome.

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Reply #814 posted 06/25/16 5:23pm

benni

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benni said:

One other thing that I want to point out, that no one has mentioned that I can see, is during the second interview about how they went about getting this story from Judith. Did no one else find it disturbing to hear the journalists talking about "We knew there was a story here so we stayed with it". Judith is still fairly new to all of this. We know journalists pick and choose what they want to report and how they report it. Things are often taken out of context (one of the reasons that our man didn't like doing interviews). These journalists "stayed with it" because they felt there was a story to be had from Judith about the plane incident. Does that mean they were taking advantage of her mourning to try to get this story? As for the announcement of the tour, couldn't it have been much further in the interview that the journalist asked her specifically about her tour to get her talking about it and how she felt about doing it now, without Prince here supporting her and the chosen which parts of her reply to report?


i feel really sorry for her. dealing with the loss of a loved one is hard, but having to fend off greedy journalists while mourning must be hell for her.

i hope they leave her alone, and let her heal. whatever transpired on the plane, i doubt prince would have ever wanted anyone to harass Ms. Hill over anything related to his passing.

[Edited 6/25/16 8:54am]


I do, too. I can't imagine what she is going through. I know what I experienced with his passing, but it has to be so much worse for those that knew him. I just can't imagine.

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Reply #815 posted 06/25/16 5:33pm

laytonian

.

On a lighter note: Prince's cooking --

Omelets: good

Smoothies: not so good.

We need the recipes wink

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Reply #816 posted 06/25/16 5:54pm

morningsong

endiadj said:

morningsong said:




Not the dependency issues the original pain issues, there had to be some doctor at the beginning of all this. And any self respecting doctor would refer his patients to another doctor if they were retiring.


hmm if he did have hip surgery then that doctor would be the one with some answers. maybe after the surgery he took pain medication sporadically, so it wasn't an issue. then the pain returned and he got the meds again somehow instead of seeking out a pain specialist until it was too late.
[Edited 6/25/16 14:43pm]


Given his symptoms over the last few months, then it can be guessed he was going on and off pain meds, because those type of visible flu-like symptoms do not last for months and months if you are completely off the meds. He would need a current prescpition for those meds for recent use. He would have needed to see a Dr. long before April 7th to get more.
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Reply #817 posted 06/25/16 7:37pm

wildgoldenhone
y

ACharmed1 said:



wildgoldenhoney said:


luv4u said:


No



Yes... If they cancel their account. nod

lol lol U're awesome.


lol
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Reply #818 posted 06/25/16 7:42pm

laytonian

.

I forgot to mention: this was part of the podcast. Judith Hill had described how Prince "cooked" for her. Apparently, it was no joke that all his friends had high cholesterol from all those eggs.

.

laytonian said:

.

On a lighter note: Prince's cooking --

Omelets: good

Smoothies: not so good.

We need the recipes wink

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Reply #819 posted 06/25/16 8:24pm

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babynoz said:

1. You do understand that an independent artist who has to pay their own overhead necessarily operates differentlly from one who has a record label/corporate entity behind them, right?

.

`Different` is not necessarily cheaper.

With an estate of millions he does need to be cheap.

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2. Do you understand that his business operations are not a credible basis on which to speculate about how he prioritized his health care?

.

I do not need to speculate.

He died because overdose.

That means that no medical oversight was present.

Also there is no info on who supplied the medication.

This makes the whol situation very much fitting in what I described.

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3. Do you realize that you are going to die too? Regardless of how many doctors you may or may not have around or your level of stupidity, it will happen, period.

.

I think about dieing often enough. People around me know what to do.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #820 posted 06/25/16 8:36pm

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I really do feel for Judith. She lost her friend, someone she was close to and knew, had watched him fade away at one point, a very traumatic experience, decides to talk about the experience of it and rather than finding sympathy from those that say they loved him the most she is essentially condemned. If Prince heard everyone bad mouthing Judith (someone he obviously cared for) how do you think he'd feel? If the event on the plane had not happened, Judith would not have talked about it. If Prince had not ..., she would not have talked about it. She would not have needed to, because Prince would have received the help he needed and he'd still be here. There would have been nothing to talk about.

The fact is, Prince is not here, having witnessed that event a week earlier before he ... it highlighted that event in her mind and made that event that much more traumatic and difficult to process. And she needs to process the event. Do you think she's not looking back at every moment of that event and thinking "What if I had done this differently?" "What if I had said this or did this, would he still be here?' "What if I had cancelled my concert and stayed with him?" "What if...?" There is no way that neither Kirk or her are not playing the "What if I ...?" game right now and have been ever since Prince ... By saying it out loud, by putting it in print, perhaps she is looking for confirmation that she did everything she could. We all know Prince would have told her the "show must go on" and would not have allowed her to cancel the concert because of him.

She didn't just walk away though. That event bothered her so much that she was the one that called others to let them know that this was serious and that Prince needed help. She got the ball rolling towards getting him that help by alerting the others. Yes, that help came too late, unfortunately, but this was the first indication someone had that there was something seriously wrong, someone that would actually step in and say to others, "We've got to do something because we almost lost him, it's serious." Within that week, they'd found him a facility, had scheduled a meeting to discuss their program with Prince, had actually gotten quite a bit done during that week. For someone like Prince, knowing he would have had been very specific in the facility and the help he was willing to get, finding that place and that doctor and getting that visit scheduled, was a lot in the less than a week that it took. I say, less than a week, because it's obvious they had found this place and arranged for them to come within 5 days, the doc's son arrived in Minne on the 6th day, and unfortunately, Prince was gone on the 7th.

As for the relationship angle, I never heard her once claim to be his girlfriend, so someone will need to point me to that exact quote. What I heard her say when asked what her relationship is was it was "intense" and that was all she was going to say about it. It sounds like a very Princely answer to me, ambiguous. I can hear him saying something like, "Judith, people are going to ask about what our relationship is to each other. It ain't none of their business. So instead of giving them a straight up answer, say something that lets them draw their own conclusions, and don't worry about what they say afterwards. It don't matter if you say "no, we're just friends", because they aren't going to believe it. And if you say, "yes, we're in a relationship" people will find some way to judge you or they won't believe you. Let them draw their own conclusions. At the end of the day, you and I know what our relationship is and we're the only two that need to know." Prince was the king of being ambigous and I'm sure he coached those women he was close friends with how to answer the relationship question. If you remember Diamond and Pearl in the video Cream, "Are you two in a relationship with Prince?' One says "yes" the other says "no", they look at each other, then both switch their answer to the other.

thank u 4 this post smile . his relationships will always be ambiguous and she respects that.

  • i think the most questionable thing about this is her timing of her tour. but look at prince, who continued his tour the day after Denise passed, and rescheduled his tour still feeling sick. He may be worth a lot but still had a lot of expenses. Maybe that was one cue Judith took in thinking "what would Prince do?" It may be that being an independent artist, and tours being the main way to make a living, that is what Judith has to do since prince was her alternative to a record deal. Her voice is a healing gift from God that she probably still feels called to share. if mention of the tour had been omitted, though, she would be searched just as much. i suspect another reason prince rescheduled atlanta was for the healing effects of the "proverbial energy exchange" that he has mentioned, and perhaps Judith also hopes for some healing through doing what she was put on this planet to do -- sing.

  • this article had zero effect on how much i want to see her on tour. if she ever comes to my city, i still would like to hear that voice live, ever since i heard it at mj's memorial. but i have more respect for her as a person now, standing up for prince. i think she's actually pure in heart, she was born into the perfect setting to be a fulltime musician, and like prince she has commited her life to music with great focus and dedication, and like prince, eagerly working with her musical heroes such as stevie wonder, elton john, prince, etc..

  • i think everything in the article edifies Prince and i appriciate the little details like zootopia, etc. that remind us how lovely he is smile many publications have probably been pursuing her and i think the nyt was a respectable choice to hopefully make an impression on the general public consciousness about who prince is, instead of letting it go as 'another rock star who succumbed to a drug issue'. any1 who ends up choosing to sign a book deal is questionable, but this article is respectful. The words about his nde were very healing to me.

  • i think she was around him too much to notice gradual changes.

am i the only one who thinks that photo with the prayer beads is one of the most gorgeous i've ever seen? serious?, yes, but so spiritual and lovely in my eyes.

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Reply #821 posted 06/25/16 8:54pm

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one interesting thing to know would be if people were usually in face-to-face conversations with prince when he flew. I would imagine the answer to be yes. But if this was a mild form or seizure, what if it did happen now and then on a plane but was just assumed to be dozing off in other instances. The main thing i would wonder about seizures is, if he had been having them, how could he prevent them from happening in the middle of a concert? Though each individual is different, could performing be one of his 'safe' acitivities that had always been free from triggering a seizure? Would there be anything to temporarily suspend the possibility of one for an evening of performing? Sorry to keep asking about this but it's one of the central questions this article raised for me. thanks again! smile

vandeluca said:

Yes, altitude can affect some who have epilepsy or are prone to seizures....But the weird thing is he flew all the time. However, that is what sucks about it...IT just comes when you least expect it, even if dormant. As a young child my child had those 'fixated eyes' staring off (the are called complex partial seizures if you want to google them)..oddly enough...one of the 'triggers' used to be....SWINGS. Some people laugh with seiziures, some have nausea of vomit, etc as a seizure. Every person is totally different, not just what you see on tv.

>>Breathing drops during a seizure and heartrate changes during one. You can ask me anything, or PM if you want to know anything. I rememver when he first said he had it as a kid, that maybe some more exposure hence research/cures would be on the increase...There is so much they don't know about it.

>>

And I would say, my opinion, that some who have seizures are more sensitive to alot or things, noises, etc than others who don't have it..

>>

We know he had some type of drug is his body, maybe he was sick, maybe his epilepsy returned, maybe it was a combo of all... It sucks totally.

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

thank you for your insights here. have they mentioned anywhere what his breathing and heartbeat were like, aside from him being unresponsive?

  • sorry this is way out there, but i wonder if the being in the plane had anything at all to do with.... anything... and what the weather was like, would be so weird if it were connected to his unique sensitivity to some solar storm or something.

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[Edited 6/23/16 21:10pm]

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Reply #822 posted 06/25/16 8:57pm

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PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

one thing the rainbow reminded me of was, sometime last year prince posted a recording of one of his paisley concerts where he covered the waterboys "the whole of the moon" with many lyric changes and one of them was "you saw the rainbow, but i held it in my hand" wink

  • one thing i would like clarified again, sorry because i probably overlooked it, but regarding the "save shot", would that have really affected his body's response to new doses of opioids 5 or 6 days later?</li>
  • and a few questions for those who have seizures or know someone who does. i will google it if i must but prefer to ask here first wink do you recall being able to hear peoples voices far away during the seizure? do drug-related seizures mainly happen to people who already have a history of seizures, or to anyone, and are 'fixed eyes' a symptom of epileptic as well as drug-related seizures?
  • telling himself to "follow the voices" made me think he wanted to get back, if only for 'a few days'
  • it just seems like the plane incident may have been a drug-induced seizure instead of an OD, if there is a difference? if P had been having any seizures in recent years, surely at least Kirk would have known about it.
  • i think the timing of this article is appropriate. definitely had to wait until after things settled after the official results were released. and she is literally the only one with these pieces of this puzzling night. it's really just a confession of what she witnessed, i'm sure in hindsight she wished she had done more. i wish i had declared a fast but i wanted to believe 'just the flu'. i think the purpose of her saying she spent half of the past 2 years with prince is because thats a significant amount of time to have some insight into a person's behavior.
  • but unless there is a superdeep conspiracy here, everyones part in this seems to be without malice, even if it was a seizure that he would have recovered from if they had been looking away and just thought he was napping, and an unneeded save shot caused what would have been a safe dose a few days later to become an overdose
If the save shot cleared his system of the opiate effect and he went into withdrawal, which happens after narcan is administered, then his tolerance was automatically lowered...If he didnt do any opiates that week until the 20th then he was highly vulnerable to overdose as his tolerance was lowered...A narcan shot increases the chance of another OD within a week after being given. Its like a critical period or something...

thanks for clarifying this. this is the saddest detail to me that makes it seem so preventable.

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Reply #823 posted 06/25/16 10:50pm

vandeluca

Well, one thing he could have been doing (and not saying he was)...but maybe if he still had that condition or it reemerged, he could have been taking seizure medications. They attempt to stop them from happening, but it is still no guarentee..ever.. They have side effects....All drugs interact with each other , and even some natural products interact with the medicines.

>>

He did alot of the things in his life that are seizure triggers--mainly lack of sleep or stress. That can make one happen. for most with epilepsy. Illness is another trigger for most w epilepsy.. Because I never heard of him having one in concert, I also assumed he was controlled or done with the seizures. I don't know if there is ever a 'safe' time, such as performing. Some people have different triggers to make them or encourage them to happen.For example, most people think bright flashing lights (ie stage)make people with epilepsy have a seizure. This is not true, unless that is that person's trigger. He must have known what his tirggers were if indeed he had them as an adult...In my case, my chid's main trigger was SWINGS and believe it or not, the beginning of sleep! You had asked if he could take something to make them not come during a concert? I am not a doctor, but since my chiild's issue was upon falling asleep, they used to give her the larger dose of medicine at bedtime, and almost nothing all day. So I don't know, I guess you can tweak the meds depending on the mediicine...So in essence, I guess you can lower the possibility of it at certain times... By the way, on a good note, we don't have any anymore....Supposedly cured but I never fully trust it.

>>

As far as him having them and no one noticing, it could be true, because most people think of the flailing only. And, actually that is not always the case. And sometimes they can really subtlle, or strange presentations such as vomiting, zoning out, and even laughing. Put it this way, I have seen my child have one, and even I had to question 'was that one?' It's really weird. Maybe the condition was starting to return..who knows... But, The brain practices having them and gets good at it and they happen more frequently. (its called kindling).

>

>>Again, I don't think a seizure is what killed him. But the more I read, the more Iwonder if that issue maybe was returning for him.--even due to his drug use, withdrawal or even being il, or simply just reemerging...I am not convinced though, that he died solo fro the accidental overdose. Something else or additional issues besides the drugs combinted to make the 'perfect storm' and now he's gone. sad You have to remember, that I am sure it is something he didn't discuss with people at all. It has a bad stigma in society overall, people don't understand it. I doubt he was forthcoming with it or made it the central topic or worry in his life. I mean the day he said he had seizures when he was younger and he was cured by an angel was so out of the blue . Random. Stange, as most things with him (but that's ok)smile

> One thing, unless I read it wrong, with JH interview,) have to reread)--- She said something about not having medicine or the necessary items on the plane to deal with that..They also have emergencey medications to stop seizures.I was wondering what she meant by" that"..or if she really meant just the NArcan. In other words, I was wondering or it seemed maybe she already knew what "THAT" was. Perhaps I read too much into iit.

>

Anyway, hope this helps.

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

one interesting thing to know would be if people were usually in face-to-face conversations with prince when he flew. I would imagine the answer to be yes. But if this was a mild form or seizure, what if it did happen now and then on a plane but was just assumed to be dozing off in other instances. The main thing i would wonder about seizures is, if he had been having them, how could he prevent them from happening in the middle of a concert? Though each individual is different, could performing be one of his 'safe' acitivities that had always been free from triggering a seizure? Would there be anything to temporarily suspend the possibility of one for an evening of performing? Sorry to keep asking about this but it's one of the central questions this article raised for me. thanks again! smile

vandeluca said:

Yes, altitude can affect some who have epilepsy or are prone to seizures....But the weird thing is he flew all the time. However, that is what sucks about it...IT just comes when you least expect it, even if dormant. As a young child my child had those 'fixated eyes' staring off (the are called complex partial seizures if you want to google them)..oddly enough...one of the 'triggers' used to be....SWINGS. Some people laugh with seiziures, some have nausea of vomit, etc as a seizure. Every person is totally different, not just what you see on tv.

>>Breathing drops during a seizure and heartrate changes during one. You can ask me anything, or PM if you want to know anything. I rememver when he first said he had it as a kid, that maybe some more exposure hence research/cures would be on the increase...There is so much they don't know about it.

>>

And I would say, my opinion, that some who have seizures are more sensitive to alot or things, noises, etc than others who don't have it..

>>

We know he had some type of drug is his body, maybe he was sick, maybe his epilepsy returned, maybe it was a combo of all... It sucks totally.

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[Edited 6/23/16 21:10pm]

[Edited 6/25/16 22:55pm]

[Edited 6/26/16 6:18am]

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Reply #824 posted 06/25/16 11:00pm

vandeluca

Yes, the Narcan and tolerance, etc was so disppointing and sad for me to hear as well. It's the ultimate 'if only."

Is it 100% confrimed though that he received NARCAN or is it assumed or taboids? To me that is a big question that I am sure the autopsy showed. I don't know what substances are in Narcan

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

RachB65 said:

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said: If the save shot cleared his system of the opiate effect and he went into withdrawal, which happens after narcan is administered, then his tolerance was automatically lowered...If he didnt do any opiates that week until the 20th then he was highly vulnerable to overdose as his tolerance was lowered...A narcan shot increases the chance of another OD within a week after being given. Its like a critical period or something...

thanks for clarifying this. this is the saddest detail to me that makes it seem so preventable.

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Reply #825 posted 06/25/16 11:06pm

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thank you -- all very helpful smile glad to hear that your daughter seems cured and hope its a permanent cure. i also wondered if his mention of his childhood cure was a hint of a reoccurence or just meant he believed anything could be cured smile

vandeluca said:

Well, one thing he could have been doing (and not saying he was)...but maybe if he still had that condition or it reemerged, he could have been taking seizure medications. They attempt to stop them from happening, but it is still no guarentee..ever.. They have side effects....All drugs interact with each other , and even some natural products interact with the medicines.

>>

He did alot of the things in his life that are seizure triggers--mainly lack of sleep or stress. That can make one happen. for most with epilepsy. Illness is another trigger for most w epilepsy.. Because I never heard of him having one in concert, I also assumed he was controlled or done with the seizures. I don't know if there is ever a 'safe' time, such as performing. Some people have different triggers to make them or encourage them to happen.For example, most people think bright flashing lights (ie stage)make people with epilepsy have a seizure. This is not true, unless that is that person's trigger. He must have known what his tirggers were if indeed he had them as an adult...In my case, my chid's main trigger was SWINGS and believe it or not, the beginning of sleep! You had asked if he could take something to make them not come during a concert? I am not a doctor, but since my chiild's issue was upon falling asleep, they used to give her the larger dose of medicine at bedtime, and almost nothing all day. So I don't know, I guess you can tweak the meds depending on the mediicine...So in essence, I guess you can lower the possibility of it at certain times... By the way, on a good note, we don't have any anymore....Supposedly cured but I never fully trust it.

>>

As far as him having them and no one noticing, it could be true, because most people think of the flailing only. And, actually that is not always the case. And sometimes they can really subtlle, or strange presentations such as vomiting, zoning out, and even laughing. Put it this way, I have seen my child have one, and even I had to question 'was that one?' It's really weird. Maybe the condition was starting to return..who knows... But, The brain practices having them and gets good at it and they happen more frequently. (its called kindling).

>

>>Again, I don't think a seizure is what killed him. But the more I read, the more Iwonder if that issue maybe was returning for him.--even due to his drug use, withdrawal or even being il, or simply just reemerging...I am not convinced though, that he died solo fro the accidental overdose. Something else or additional issues besides the drugs combinted to make the 'perfect storm' and now he's gone. sad You have to remember, that I am sure it is something he didn't discuss with people at all. It has a bad stigma in society overall, people don't understand it. I doubt he was forthcoming with it or made it the central topic or worry in his life. I mean the day he said he had seizures when he was younger and he was cured by an angel was so out of the blue . Random. Stange, as most things with him (but that's ok)smile

> One thing, unless I read it wrong, with JH interview,) have to reread)--- She said something about not having medicine or the necessary items on the plane to deal with that...I was wondering what she meant by that..

>

Anyway, hope this helps.

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

one interesting thing to know would be if people were usually in face-to-face conversations with prince when he flew. I would imagine the answer to be yes. But if this was a mild form or seizure, what if it did happen now and then on a plane but was just assumed to be dozing off in other instances. The main thing i would wonder about seizures is, if he had been having them, how could he prevent them from happening in the middle of a concert? Though each individual is different, could performing be one of his 'safe' acitivities that had always been free from triggering a seizure? Would there be anything to temporarily suspend the possibility of one for an evening of performing? Sorry to keep asking about this but it's one of the central questions this article raised for me. thanks again! smile

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Reply #826 posted 06/25/16 11:17pm

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It's this kind of stupidity and ignorance that is the problem with all of this in the first place. People being too side-tracked by fame and seperating 'drug addicts' who take 'street drug's from those who may or may not have a perscription. Drugs are drugs. You clearly and most certainly do not have an ounce of understanding of this very elementary and simple fact. Now that is ignorance.



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Reply #827 posted 06/26/16 12:03am

morningsong

laytonian said:

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On a lighter note: Prince's cooking --


Omelets: good


Smoothies: not so good.



We need the recipes wink




Makes e wonder what the heck he was putting in those smoothies.
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Reply #828 posted 06/26/16 12:35am

avajane

morningsong said:

laytonian said:

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On a lighter note: Prince's cooking --


Omelets: good


Smoothies: not so good.



We need the recipes wink




Makes e wonder what the heck he was putting in those smoothies.

Are you implying he mixed the medication in his smoothies? It appears that he must have put in his drink or something since he went unconscious while he was eating.
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Reply #829 posted 06/26/16 5:32am

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avajane said:

morningsong said:




Makes e wonder what the heck he was putting in those smoothies.

Are you implying he mixed the medication in his smoothies? It appears that he must have put in his drink or something since he went unconscious while he was eating.



Uh no, something like that never crossed my mind.

Fruit smoothies mostly taste good was mostly what I was thinking, was he putting alfafa sprouts or something was what was on my mind.
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Reply #830 posted 06/26/16 6:51am

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laytonian said:

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I forgot to mention: this was part of the podcast. Judith Hill had described how Prince "cooked" for her. Apparently, it was no joke that all his friends had high cholesterol from all those eggs.

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laytonian said:

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On a lighter note: Prince's cooking --

Omelets: good

Smoothies: not so good.

We need the recipes wink

foodnow Vegans don't eat eggs. wink

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Reply #831 posted 06/26/16 8:28am

laytonian

morningsong said:

laytonian said:

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On a lighter note: Prince's cooking --

Omelets: good

Smoothies: not so good.

We need the recipes wink

Makes e wonder what the heck he was putting in those smoothies.

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Sounded to me like those awful "green smoothies" full of kale and soy milk wink

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Reply #832 posted 06/26/16 8:31am

laytonian

Tresha68 said:

laytonian

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I forgot to mention: this was part of the podcast. Judith Hill had described how Prince "cooked" for her. Apparently, it was no joke that all his friends had high cholesterol from all those eggs.

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foodnow Vegans don't eat eggs. wink

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He was vegan only for awhile. Vegetarian. Ate salmon. Apparently went to Dairy Queen A LOT (what's even vegetarian there)?

He mentioned several times that he made omelets for his friends.

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Reply #833 posted 06/26/16 11:04am

amerigoldusa

Makes my heart break all over again! He didn't want to die, especially if he fought so hard to come back! Then he wanted to get help, but it was too late! Doesn't get easier when you find out more information about his passing. And you know more people will be coming out of the woodworks to tell their story.

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Reply #834 posted 06/26/16 11:12am

GustavoRibas

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Honestly, I dont understand why some fans are so upset or denying the fact that Prince took painkillers

Just to make it clear. ...I will NEVER see him as a junkie and I am sad because of all those comments trying to put Prince in the same box of Kurt Cobain and such. Never believed in this ´drugs for stage fright´also.

But, at the same time, I acknowledge that Prince took drugs for pain and it´s a very common problem in America. I only feel (very) sad that he couldnt get help in time enough to save his life. This thought makes me devastated.

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Reply #835 posted 06/26/16 11:28am

Blakbear

GustavoRibas said:

Honestly, I dont understand why some fans are so upset or denying the fact that Prince took painkillers

Just to make it clear. ...I will NEVER see him as a junkie and I am sad because of all those comments trying to put Prince in the same box of Kurt Cobain and such. Never believed in this ´drugs for stage fright´also.

But, at the same time, I acknowledge that Prince took drugs for pain and it´s a very common problem in America. I only feel (very) sad that he couldnt get help in time enough to save his life. This thought makes me devastated.

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People want to see Prince as superhuman and incapable of failing.

Unfortunately, Prince was a mere mortal like the rest of us.

And yeah, I'm with you. He took pain meds because he was in pain. That's it, that's all.

I do wish people would quit attacking Judith, too. She didn't do anything wrong, here,a nd having seen this man die right in front of her -- I say she damn well has a right to say what she wants to, and screw the people who don't think it's 'respectful'. So freaking what. You try having someone die in front of you and see how you feel. Of COURSE she's emotional right now -- she spent 2 years with this man, and had to go through a horrible experience with him. SHe didn't say a damn thing that would make him look bad -- she actually painted a positive picture. He /wanted to come back/. She did what she could to help him, she put her neck out there and got some shit happening. Wasn't that what you people wanted?

Then why are you screaming at her for doing it.

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Reply #836 posted 06/26/16 11:39am

Nadz777

nursev said:

As for these women arguing on social media about Ms. Hill speaking out Im glad she did...Princes fans needed to hear that so fuck what they say.




This thread reminds me of the first few verses in June

Pasta simmers on the stove in June
Makes no sense yet but it will soon
Conversation starters come way too hard
Nobody wants to be the martyr
Playing the wrong cards...

I'm just saying it's June
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Reply #837 posted 06/26/16 11:50am

XxAxX

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Nadz777 said:

nursev said:

As for these women arguing on social media about Ms. Hill speaking out Im glad she did...Princes fans needed to hear that so fuck what they say.

This thread reminds me of the first few verses in June Pasta simmers on the stove in June Makes no sense yet but it will soon Conversation starters come way too hard Nobody wants to be the martyr Playing the wrong cards... I'm just saying it's June [Edited 6/26/16 11:42am]

eek

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Reply #838 posted 06/26/16 11:54am

PeteSilas

Nadz777 said:

nursev said:

As for these women arguing on social media about Ms. Hill speaking out Im glad she did...Princes fans needed to hear that so fuck what they say.

This thread reminds me of the first few verses in June Pasta simmers on the stove in June Makes no sense yet but it will soon Conversation starters come way too hard Nobody wants to be the martyr Playing the wrong cards... I'm just saying it's June [Edited 6/26/16 11:42am]

wow, i hadn't noticed that, thanks.

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Reply #839 posted 06/26/16 11:56am

babynoz

udo said:

babynoz said:

1. You do understand that an independent artist who has to pay their own overhead necessarily operates differentlly from one who has a record label/corporate entity behind them, right?

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`Different` is not necessarily cheaper.

With an estate of millions he does need to be cheap.

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I do not need to speculate.

He died because overdose.

That means that no medical oversight was present.

Also there is no info on who supplied the medication.

This makes the whol situation very much fitting in what I described.

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3. Do you realize that you are going to die too? Regardless of how many doctors you may or may not have around or your level of stupidity, it will happen, period.

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I think about dieing often enough. People around me know what to do.



1. Unless you are privy to his financial statements/expenditures you have no basis for your claims. There is no basis whatsoever to make any connections between his business costs and his health care that proves he was either cheap or stupid about it, which is what you were alleging. Don't try to backpedal now.

2. An accidental overdose is just that....an accident. It is impossible for you to describe the whole situation if you do not know all of the facts. Therefore you are speculating and reading it according to your own biases just like everybody else, period.

3.If you have thought about dying than you should have sense enough to know that tomorrow is not promised even if there are "people around you who know what to do.... lol In your infinite brilliance it's funny that you do not understand that you are no more or less likely to have a fatal accident than anyone else, heaven forbid. So perhaps you haven't actually thought about it enough?

Something else to think about is why you were not taught manners enough to know what is and is not appropriate to say about the departed when you are amongst people who are grieving? While it is not unusual for people to have a degree of anger, one must know that certain things are best expressed in private rather than in public. That is what proper home training should have taught you.



You're welcome.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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