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A Very Eerie Older Blog Post

I was reading the old blogs and ran across this. Just to be clear I do not think that he died in 1985, just that the April stuff is odd to me.

http://prince.org/msg/7/344036

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peec2fengaz

what is the weirdest prince story you ever heard

here's one that's hard to beat..

i came across this crap on the web..i've been a fan of prince since "83" but i have never heard this one till now..check this bs out..

Prince is Dead (PrID)

After filming "Purple Rain", on April 7, 1985, near the end of the "Purple Rain" Tour, Prince Rogers Nelson died in a tragic motorcycle accident. Considering the success of "Purple Rain" and the fact that Prince was reaching his peak at the time of his demise, those close to him made the decision to replace him with a double, heavily modified with cosmetic surgery. Government ties ensured that the secret remained buried.

This double differed from Prince in several ways:

He was shorter.

He was a bit more pale skinned.

He was a devout Jehovah's Witness with reservations about singing "dirty songs".

His voice is close, but not identical to the original's.

Prince had a great sense of humor. The new one didn't take a joke very well.

The new one is younger by several years (how many is uncertain)

The new one's name was Christopher Victor Tracy.

Prince still had a large catalog of music that was unreleased, and they figured they could float on that for a long time, or at least re-record it with the new Prince.

Immediately after Prince's death, it was announced that Prince would discontinue live performances and music videos. This was because Christopher was still in need of refining his act as Prince. Christopher's first live show was in Minneapolis in October 1985. He did a few shows to rehearse the act in smaller venues, or with some of the Prince-related groups.

The first album featuring the new Prince was "Around the World in a Day", released without advertisement a few weeks after Prince's death. Christopher co-composed one track for the album; "The Ladder" - on which he also sang as Prince for the first time (although the track has a lot of older Prince vocals mixed in). He also insisted on re-editing the song "Temptation" to be less "lusty" and turned it to a religiously-oriented song of judgment, instead of the testament to sexual indulgence that it was originally.

"Hello" is a Prince song reworked into a Christopher song, and renamed to "introduce" Christopher to the world on a B-side, and describe his introduction to being famous. "I tried to them that I didn't want to sing..." It was also a response to Christopher's hesitation to join "Live Aid" because he wasn't quite ready for a big event so close to Prince's former friends and colleagues in the music industry.

Christopher began doing videos as Prince when the sales of "Around the World in a Day" started to stall. The first video he did was "Raspberry Beret".

Christopher credited himself as "Christopher" on the Bangles' song "Manic Monday", as well as many others. Record execs (and the federal agents who arranged his cover and cosmetic surgery) were not pleased that he kept trying to take credit as Christopher. He was sternly warned to stop dropping hints, but he kept doing it anyway.

Clues are scattered through all albums from 1985 onward; Especially in soundtrack to Batman. "Batdance" is practically a retelling of Prince's death and the disdain that Christopher feels for his predecessor's sinful lifestyle. This is why "Batman" is out of print and has been all-but written out of the Warner Bros. Prince discography.

The cover of "The Hits/The B-Sides" is meant to be viewed sideways, to show a "dead" Prince laying in repose.

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Christopher, as Prince, laying in repose.

The total shift in musical style was because Christopher was simply uninterested in Prince's former bare-bones Funk style, feeling more at home with R&B and Soul with more "spiritual" lyrics. While Prince was also a devout Christian, he was not as restricted by his religious background as Christopher was. Christopher even refused to perform any of Prince's "racy" songs in concert.

Basically, songs after 1985 that are explicitly sexual are old Prince songs that were in his catalog of unreleased tracks when he died.

"Under The Cherry Moon" was chock full of clues (both the movie and the soundtrack, "Parade".) A lot of the music in "Parade" was written by Wendy & Lisa, or adapted from Prince's older works. "New Position" is one such song that was Prince, but rerecorded with Prince's vocals by the Revolution. "Sometimes it Snows in April" was about Prince. They filmed in France to avoid the American press, and American film unions. The theme of Christopher being a gigolo was to parallel the idea of him being paid to replace another man. This was entirely Christopher's project. He even used his real name in the film, under the banner of "fiction".

The song "Christopher Tracy's Parade" was about inviting people to experience Christopher's choice in music, rather than Prince's. Christopher saw himself as a "holy" crusader of sorts, and his task was to clean up Prince's music and "save" his fans.

The Revolution didn't really like the Christopher, and some of them actively worked to out him, but they were told that if they revealed the truth, they would "regret it". It wasn't long after the new Prince's debut that the Revolution disbanded.

Christopher didn't release another album until 1987, with "Sign o' the Times" which was a mix of some older Prince and the Revolution tunes, some original Christopher compositions. Christopher bowed to Warner Bros' requests that he "keep the style Prince had" in his music, because he was still very much under their control at the time. His answer was to record two songs in the "Camille" voice, which was his voice sped up to sound like a parody of Prince's voice from his first few albums. The record execs were not amused.

To his credit, Christopher is an amazing performer, but he's not as open-minded as Prince was. Still, he managed to get some top-10 hits from "Sign O' the Times" and the record execs were satisfied, even if critics said the album was "less polished" than previous Prince albums, and reports from the studio said that Prince was loathe to work with other people in the room.

The NPG (Publicly, the New Power Generation. Privately, "Not Prince's Group") was formed to cover up Christopher's inability to produce a whole album on his own at the time (as was evidenced by the poor reviews of his solo projects) - Christopher doesn't perform very much on "Diamonds & Pearls" because this was an attempt by record execs to shift the focus from Prince to the band. It didn't work out, though. Prince was still the focus.

The whole "The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" thing was Christopher's attempt to get out from under the Prince legacy. It failed.

"Spooky Electric", the Prince alter-ego, is actually code for "naughty" songs that were performed or written by Prince. Christopher tried not to take credit for them by saying it was "Spooky Electric" who performed them.

"My Name is Prince" is a declaration of Christopher taking Prince's name and making what he sees as positive changes in Prince's reputation.

"The Black Album" is the real Prince's last album, most of it written years before, and Christopher did everything he could to prevent its release, wanting to avoid having the "dirty" Prince back in the public eye. It's black because the actual composer was dead. He said his decision to prevent its release was due to a "spiritual epiphany." Instead, Christopher released his reworked, solo, gospel project "Lovesexy" to a less-than-thrilled audience. Again, the identity of Spooky Electric was used, but this time it was only in reference to Prince, while "Camille" was Christopher's own mocking version of the old "horny" Prince, but toned into a more "faithful" version. The album ends in sounds of water, signifying "purity and rebirth". This was also the first album where Christopher uses the "eye" symbol extensively.

This marked the beginning of Christopher truly "preaching" to his audience.

Christopher did dub and perform songs from "The Black Album" - These were most likely his only contributions to the album, with the rest being Prince. These tracks are "Bob George", "When 2 R in Love" and "Superfunkycalifragisexy". They were performed during the "evil" side of his concerts (Prince music, or "naughty" songs) in Act I, and were then answered by his "good" side (Christopher music, and "godly" Prince music) in Act II.

Christopher was trying desperately to "reform" Prince's image to fit his own sensibilities, but audiences weren't as interested in this toned down, more spiritual Prince. His albums sales slipped, and his response was "Graffiti Bridge", which is meant as Christopher's sequel/answer to "Purple Rain". In it, the Kid, now played by Christopher, laments people turning away from his music because he's spiritual, but wins out in the end because of his faith.

The Love Symbol as a name was another part of Christopher's attempt to break away from Prince's legacy. "The Artist" was so sick of being called "Prince" that he simply flipped out for a while and refused to acknowledge the name.

In 2001 Christopher took his religion public by having "Prince" get baptized as a Jehovah's Witness. This was sold as a "conversion" but was just a cover for the religion he'd always had, since before becoming Prince.

Christopher was having increasing problems being Warner Bros. Prince stand-in. He didn't like the direction they wanted him to go. He didn't like the contract he was under. He hated being Prince during this period in time, and was told that if he revealed the truth he would be "taken care of." He responded by writing "Slave" on his cheek. It was shortly after this that Warner Bros released "The Black Album" despite Christopher still being against it.

He called his album "Emancipation" because he was finally stepping free from Prince's shadow and Warner Bros' control, and was free to do his own thing as long as he never openly revealed the truth. However, he continued to seed his music with references to his true identity, and inferences that Warner Bros were an evil organization with Illuminati ties.

in 1998, Christopher angered a lot of Prince fans with his "treatment" of the "Crystal Ball" compilation. He edited the music heavily, and relied mostly on his own tracks rather than older, unheard Prince tracks. "Cloreen Baconskin" seems to be the only true Prince track on the album.

On May 16, 2000 Christopher stopped using the Love Symbol and returned to allowing himself to be called "Prince", once he was completely out from Warner Bros' control. The company felt he had dried up as an artist, and didn't pressure him anymore. He was free to perform whatever he pleased now.

"The Rainbow Children" is Christopher's critique of the shadowy organizations who made him into Prince, and exerted such control over him for so many years. He imagines a world without such negative influences, as he sees them.

Still a phenomenal artist, he tends to record albums that could be described as "gospel funk" rather than the mainstream, risque music that was Prince's favorite. He has even managed to bury the hatchet with former members of The Revolution, and they have worked with him since.

Of course, Warner Bros. still repackages and sells everything Prince made, and much of the music Christopher performed while under contract.

Prince Rogers Nelson ------------ Christopher Tracy

When played backwards, in the song "Temptation" Christopher says:

@ 3:25 "I'm in you, I'm in you, I'm in you."

@ 4:24 "I ain't him."

Various times after 5:00 mark: "I'm gonna stay here."

Past 6:45 "Let me out, let me out, let me out!"

Just one example. More to follow.

Ed. Note: It seems that the April 7 concert-- the last Prince performance before he "retired from live performances" may not have been the actual day of death, but just the last day he appeared publicly.

Whether he died that night (unlikely) or in the following days is unknown. All that's known is that he dropped out of existence for a short while, and it was announced by his manager that "Prince's concert April 7th at Miami's Orange Bowl will be his last performance for an indefinite number of years"

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We are now making our final approach to Satisfaction
Please bring your lips, your arms, your hips
Into the upright and locked position
For landing ? Can you feel it? Can you feel it?
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Reply #1 posted 06/09/16 3:27pm

Mumio

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Google "Paul McCartney double". You'll find the same type of thing was said about him too.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #2 posted 06/09/16 3:35pm

Cloreen

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Mumio said:

Google "Paul McCartney double". You'll find the same type of thing was said about him too.

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But the Paul dead and replaced by a double is actually true. I don't buy all the silly signs on the album covers stuff, I just let the music tell me Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a double. No way on Earth could the man who gave us "Sgt. Pepper's" be the same guy who gave us "Ebony And Ivory."

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Reply #3 posted 06/09/16 3:38pm

SPYZFAN1

"I buried Paul" = cranberry sauce.

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Reply #4 posted 06/09/16 3:38pm

jjam

In that case, Stevie Wonder was replaced somewhere along the line cos "I Just Called To Say I Love You" is shite.

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Reply #5 posted 06/09/16 3:41pm

RodeoSchro

Cloreen said:

Mumio said:

Google "Paul McCartney double". You'll find the same type of thing was said about him too.

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But the Paul dead and replaced by a double is actually true. I don't buy all the silly signs on the album covers stuff, I just let the music tell me Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a double. No way on Earth could the man who gave us "Sgt. Pepper's" be the same guy who gave us "Ebony And Ivory."



A radio station here once did a bit where a guy was calling in to request that song. It went like this (you have to imagine the voice of a not-too-bright, maybe inebriated guy saying this):

"Yeah. Uhhh, I want to hear Emminy and Ooobany...wait. Elibony and Vivry....no, ummmm....Abny and Chutney. Ahhhhhh, you know.....that song by Bill McCartney".

falloff That must have been 30 years ago and I STILL laugh when I think of it!

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Reply #6 posted 06/09/16 3:45pm

SPYZFAN1

"I Just Called To Say I Love You" is shite"... lol lol!!! Just spit bottled water out laughing at that one.

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Reply #7 posted 06/09/16 3:46pm

Cloreen

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Yeah, it is true that lots of our great artists died and were replaced by doubles who never could match the original's greatness:
Paul McCartney

Stevie Wonder

Bruce Springsteen

Bob Dylan

Bowie

Madonna

Elvis (died while in the army in Germany)

Michael Jackson (died right after "Thriller", his double gave us "Bad')

Prince (died at the time he left Warners. Obvioulsy, "Xpectation" is clearly the work of a double)

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And it isn't just in music that these shenanigans take place. Even Robert DeNiro died and was replaced by an imposter.

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Reply #8 posted 06/09/16 3:56pm

BillieBalloon

Did this double hear wally?
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
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Reply #9 posted 06/09/16 4:05pm

Marrk

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"a very stupid older blog post" should've been the title.

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Why even repost this bollocks? Eerie my ass. rolleyes

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Reply #10 posted 06/09/16 4:10pm

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I heard a similar theory about Sting.

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In the early days of the Police he was a laugh, then at some point his body was replaced by an alien being who was a self-important, humourless arse. Said alien split The Police up before anybody realised he couldn't get the high notes in Roxanne.

thank u 4 a funky time
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Reply #11 posted 06/09/16 4:13pm

JenNpurple4eve
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Marrk said:

"a very stupid older blog post" should've been the title.

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Why even repost this bollocks? Eerie my ass. rolleyes

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I do not believe the post, just he odd things about him retiring, passing and that song being reased the the 21st (Sometimes It Snows in April). It is all very odd to me.

We are now making our final approach to Satisfaction
Please bring your lips, your arms, your hips
Into the upright and locked position
For landing ? Can you feel it? Can you feel it?
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Reply #12 posted 06/09/16 4:17pm

maplesyrupnjam

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Cloreen said:

Mumio said:

Google "Paul McCartney double". You'll find the same type of thing was said about him too.

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But the Paul dead and replaced by a double is actually true. I don't buy all the silly signs on the album covers stuff, I just let the music tell me Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a double. No way on Earth could the man who gave us "Sgt. Pepper's" be the same guy who gave us "Ebony And Ivory."

You're alright Cloreen smile That made me laugh.

A bloke called Stan from Cheshire with a laughable scouse accent made Pipes of Peace as well. My mate told me. wink

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Reply #13 posted 06/09/16 4:46pm

morningsong

eek confused zipped

*moving along*

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Reply #14 posted 06/09/16 5:18pm

slakk

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This is WAY off. Everyone knows that the double from UTCM, William Rector, replaced Prince after filming UTCM. Prince then went to live on his private island and still write the music, but it was Rector who was in the public spotlight. cool

The color of the Pharaoh's hand is purple
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Reply #15 posted 06/09/16 5:40pm

Mumio

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morningsong said:

eek confused zipped

*moving along*

Ha! lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #16 posted 06/09/16 7:41pm

injuredpinky

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Cloreen said:

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Yeah, it is true that lots of our great artists died and were replaced by doubles who never could match the original's greatness:
Paul McCartney

Stevie Wonder

Bruce Springsteen

Bob Dylan

Bowie

Madonna

Elvis (died while in the army in Germany)

Michael Jackson (died right after "Thriller", his double gave us "Bad')

Prince (died at the time he left Warners. Obvioulsy, "Xpectation" is clearly the work of a double)

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And it isn't just in music that these shenanigans take place. Even Robert DeNiro died and was replaced by an imposter.

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I don't think they replaced Madonna. I think it's more of a Weekend at Bernie's thing.

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Reply #17 posted 06/09/16 7:55pm

Cloreen

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maplesyrupnjam said:

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A bloke called Stan from Cheshire with a laughable scouse accent made Pipes of Peace as well. My mate told me. wink

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Yeah, and that guy Stan also gave us "Say Say Say."

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Pity. Paul was something else. But then he blew his mind out in a car and Stan or whoever was brought in to replace him and we got "Mary Had A Little Lamb." Oh, my God, do you remember that one? Unfortunately for me, I do.

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[img:$uid]http://www.windmill-records.co.uk/ekmps/shops/windmgkmill/images/paul-mccartney-wings-mary-had-a-little-lamb-little-woman-love-r-5949--[2]-55555-p.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #18 posted 06/09/16 8:13pm

RiotPaisley

What the what.

I'm all for conspiracy theories but ... Why? William Rector? Am I missing a pun?
Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick.
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Reply #19 posted 06/09/16 8:16pm

EnDoRpHn

The old timers know the truth: William Rector replaced Prince.

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Reply #20 posted 06/09/16 9:22pm

maplesyrupnjam

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Cloreen said:

maplesyrupnjam said:

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A bloke called Stan from Cheshire with a laughable scouse accent made Pipes of Peace as well. My mate told me. wink

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Yeah, and that guy Stan also gave us "Say Say Say."

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Pity. Paul was something else. But then he blew his mind out in a car and Stan or whoever was brought in to replace him and we got "Mary Had A Little Lamb." Oh, my God, do you remember that one? Unfortunately for me, I do.

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[img:$uid]http://www.windmill-records.co.uk/ekmps/shops/windmgkmill/images/paul-mccartney-wings-mary-had-a-little-lamb-little-woman-love-r-5949--[2]-55555-p.jpg[/img:$uid]

I heard it once, but I thought I was hallucinating. Lol. Just had a listen, Yes, I was hallucinating. I refuse to believe that actually exists. eek

Still, I've told you about Wings. biggrin

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