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Thread started 06/08/16 4:47pm

donnyenglish

Immediate Digital Release of Jan 21 and Final Show would help Bremer

An immediate release of the first and last Piano & Microphone shows would help Bremer, the heirs and the fans. Both shows are ready to go. If they wait, it would be less profitable.
[Edited 6/8/16 16:48pm]
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Reply #1 posted 06/08/16 5:05pm

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donnyenglish said:

An immediate release of the first and last Piano & Microphone shows would help Bremer, the heirs and the fans. Both shows are ready to go. If they wait, it would be less profitable.
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As much as I would love to get my hands on both immediately - there's no reason to believe that profits will dip if they hold off. In fact, I would argue that a properly marketed release in Q4 would do much better than if they rush it.
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Reply #2 posted 06/08/16 5:09pm

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donnyenglish said:

An immediate release of the first and last Piano & Microphone shows would help Bremer, the heirs and the fans. Both shows are ready to go. If they wait, it would be less profitable.


It's not up to Bremer. Are you sure both shows are ready? Who signs the contracts? Who distributes? (I could go on, but what's the point.)

It doesn't matter when the next Prince record comes out -- whether it is today or a year from now -- it will open #1 on the charts and sell plenty. And who cares how much it sells unless the person in charge of everything says a portion will go to charity? I could give two shits if the heirs get a nickel on top of their $125 million. I'd rather Prince had left any future proceeds to charity.

There's no rush. Let everything get sorted out by the professionals (aka not ANYONE on the org) and hope that Drumpf doesn't murder us all after he goes into office in November. It would be nice to hear something new before that happens.

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Reply #3 posted 06/08/16 5:15pm

donnyenglish

But they need cash now. That is an easy way to raise some cash.
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Reply #4 posted 06/08/16 5:27pm

jjam

Nothing that's previously unreleased is coming out any time soon. The estate is in a mess, that will take at least a year to clear up - and that's being optimistic.

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Reply #5 posted 06/08/16 8:57pm

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donnyenglish said:

An immediate release of the first and last Piano & Microphone shows would help Bremer, the heirs and the fans. Both shows are ready to go. If they wait, it would be less profitable. [Edited 6/8/16 16:48pm]

I am drunk too with fantastic ideas! biggrin

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Reply #6 posted 06/08/16 9:02pm

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donnyenglish said:

But they need cash now. That is an easy way to raise some cash.


There are other ways to raise cash than selling off your best assets.

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Reply #7 posted 06/08/16 9:14pm

Strive

suomynona said:

donnyenglish said:

An immediate release of the first and last Piano & Microphone shows would help Bremer, the heirs and the fans. Both shows are ready to go. If they wait, it would be less profitable.


It's not up to Bremer. Are you sure both shows are ready? Who signs the contracts? Who distributes? (I could go on, but what's the point.)

It doesn't matter when the next Prince record comes out -- whether it is today or a year from now -- it will open #1 on the charts and sell plenty. And who cares how much it sells unless the person in charge of everything says a portion will go to charity? I could give two shits if the heirs get a nickel on top of their $125 million. I'd rather Prince had left any future proceeds to charity.


Prince mixed the entire show for release before his death. The trust would sign the CONtract on behalf of the family. Whatever label they go with gets to distribute. Anybody would be willing to do a one off deal for a big payday and a chance to get a distribution deal with the vault in the future.

Open #1 on the charts isn't a difficult task anymore. Jumpstarting Prince's legendary status in the music business, in the eyes of the general public, is more difficult. There's alot of interested people out there and the Piano & A Microphone tour would be a perfect eye opener for them.



Wait too long and you lose those people. Do reissues or release unreleased studio material stuff first and you weaken the appeal of his final live show.

I listened to a bootleg of the full thing and the release of Black Sweat on Tidal and I honestly believe it could be considered one of the best live albums ever released if they release it in time for the mainstream public to pay attention.

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Reply #8 posted 06/08/16 9:18pm

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Let's agree to disagree. I mean, I want new stuff too, but like others have said in the other 50 "estate" threads on the front page -- it is going to take a while. Too long for most fans.

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Reply #9 posted 06/08/16 9:27pm

Strive

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Reply #10 posted 06/08/16 11:50pm

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suomynona said:

donnyenglish said:

An immediate release of the first and last Piano & Microphone shows would help Bremer, the heirs and the fans. Both shows are ready to go. If they wait, it would be less profitable.


It's not up to Bremer. Are you sure both shows are ready? Who signs the contracts? Who distributes? (I could go on, but what's the point.)

It doesn't matter when the next Prince record comes out -- whether it is today or a year from now -- it will open #1 on the charts and sell plenty. And who cares how much it sells unless the person in charge of everything says a portion will go to charity? I could give two shits if the heirs get a nickel on top of their $125 million. I'd rather Prince had left any future proceeds to charity.

There's no rush. Let everything get sorted out by the professionals (aka not ANYONE on the org) and hope that Drumpf doesn't murder us all after he goes into office in November. It would be nice to hear something new before that happens.

PFFFF...Are you kidding? HITNRUN2 was released immediately after Prince's death and it's a flop...Even the Bob Dylan cover album released some weeks ago made the top 10...

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Reply #11 posted 06/09/16 12:03am

NorthC

^And Bib did nothing to promote it. But he has been with the same record company all his life and has a fan base of loyal album buyers. Prince could have had that too if he hadn't insisted on playing his games of hide and seek.
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Reply #12 posted 06/09/16 5:03am

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RODSERLING said:

suomynona said:


It's not up to Bremer. Are you sure both shows are ready? Who signs the contracts? Who distributes? (I could go on, but what's the point.)

It doesn't matter when the next Prince record comes out -- whether it is today or a year from now -- it will open #1 on the charts and sell plenty. And who cares how much it sells unless the person in charge of everything says a portion will go to charity? I could give two shits if the heirs get a nickel on top of their $125 million. I'd rather Prince had left any future proceeds to charity.

There's no rush. Let everything get sorted out by the professionals (aka not ANYONE on the org) and hope that Drumpf doesn't murder us all after he goes into office in November. It would be nice to hear something new before that happens.

PFFFF...Are you kidding? HITNRUN2 was released immediately after Prince's death and it's a flop...Even the Bob Dylan cover album released some weeks ago made the top 10...

Yeah but the "average person" doesn't even know about HitnRun2 or HitnRun1 for that matter. Pretty much no promotion. I'm sure a live recording of Prince's last concert ever, which includes many of his hits and his final performance of "Purple Rain," would do significantly better than HitNRun2.

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Reply #13 posted 06/09/16 7:22am

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RODSERLING said:

suomynona said:


It's not up to Bremer. Are you sure both shows are ready? Who signs the contracts? Who distributes? (I could go on, but what's the point.)

It doesn't matter when the next Prince record comes out -- whether it is today or a year from now -- it will open #1 on the charts and sell plenty. And who cares how much it sells unless the person in charge of everything says a portion will go to charity? I could give two shits if the heirs get a nickel on top of their $125 million. I'd rather Prince had left any future proceeds to charity.

There's no rush. Let everything get sorted out by the professionals (aka not ANYONE on the org) and hope that Drumpf doesn't murder us all after he goes into office in November. It would be nice to hear something new before that happens.

PFFFF...Are you kidding? HITNRUN2 was released immediately after Prince's death and it's a flop...Even the Bob Dylan cover album released some weeks ago made the top 10...


NOPE. Unless he died on December 12, 2015 and there was a Weekend At Bernie's type situation going on for over 4 months.

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Reply #14 posted 06/09/16 7:27am

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The estate is facing a crippling tax bill in January and is now being managed in part by 'industry experts' by order of the court, so latest word is there may be a release of unheard material as early as this year.

Prince's final show, that he himself stated he wished to see released, and was working on in his last days, would be very fitting.

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Reply #15 posted 06/09/16 7:29am

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OperatingThetan said:

The estate is facing a crippling tax bill in January and is now being managed in part by 'industry experts' by order of the court, so latest word is there may be a release of unheard material as early as this year.

Prince's final show, that he himself stated he wished to see released, and was working on in his last days, would be very fitting.


what is the source of this word?

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Reply #16 posted 06/09/16 7:30am

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RODSERLING said:

suomynona said:


It's not up to Bremer. Are you sure both shows are ready? Who signs the contracts? Who distributes? (I could go on, but what's the point.)

It doesn't matter when the next Prince record comes out -- whether it is today or a year from now -- it will open #1 on the charts and sell plenty. And who cares how much it sells unless the person in charge of everything says a portion will go to charity? I could give two shits if the heirs get a nickel on top of their $125 million. I'd rather Prince had left any future proceeds to charity.

There's no rush. Let everything get sorted out by the professionals (aka not ANYONE on the org) and hope that Drumpf doesn't murder us all after he goes into office in November. It would be nice to hear something new before that happens.

PFFFF...Are you kidding? HITNRUN2 was released immediately after Prince's death and it's a flop...Even the Bob Dylan cover album released some weeks ago made the top 10...

It was more widely released in physical form but was available for download and streaming on Tidal and other outlets months earlier, so doesn't really reflect. Plus Prince was giving his version of the CD away for free at concerts and selling it peer-to-peer.

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Reply #17 posted 06/09/16 7:57am

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OperatingThetan said:

RODSERLING said:

PFFFF...Are you kidding? HITNRUN2 was released immediately after Prince's death and it's a flop...Even the Bob Dylan cover album released some weeks ago made the top 10...

It was more widely released in physical form but was available for download and streaming on Tidal and other outlets months earlier, so doesn't really reflect. Plus Prince was giving his version of the CD away for free at concerts and selling it peer-to-peer.

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sO what ? tHIS IS BULLSHIT...That doesn't explain why this immediate physical release after his death sold only 80.000 ex wordwide...It should have sold this same amount the first week in the US alone...

Every album in the world are available on streaming...(except 2010 biggrin )

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Reply #18 posted 06/09/16 9:17am

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And who cares how much it sells unless the person in charge of everything says a portion will go to charity? I could give two shits if the heirs get a nickel on top of their $125 million.

I hope future releases make good $ because if they don't there will be less of them.

The more money they make, the more product they will put out. Previously unreleased material will always get my money because I want it and will want more of it. Reissues & remasters, not so much...

Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'...
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Reply #19 posted 06/09/16 12:44pm

dereksl

I just heard a snippet of the final show from a "new source" and is sure sounded professional. The music was crystal clear with much less crowd noise than the bootleg. Website said "available July 4." Any chance this is Bremer/the estate and the official release could happen that soon?

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Reply #20 posted 06/09/16 3:15pm

jjam

It's just a better quality audience recording and another bootleg.

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