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Thread started 06/01/16 8:23pm

surelyafan

Prince's Relationship with his Mom

What was his relationship with her like? I have read bits and pieces, but given that he lived so close to his mom, I wonder if they ever sorted things out and if they were involved in each other's lives.

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Reply #1 posted 06/01/16 9:01pm

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He took care of his father until he died, and there's no reason he wouldn't have done the same for his mother. His bigger problem was with his stepfather, ultimately. Children and parents always boomerang back around. It's inevitable. As much as we hear about Prince's quiet philanthorpy to people & organizations, I can't imagine that he didn't take care of his mother as well, and have a relationship with her.

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Reply #2 posted 06/01/16 10:07pm

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surelyafan said:

What was his relationship with her like? I have read bits and pieces, but given that he lived so close to his mom, I wonder if they ever sorted things out and if they were involved in each other's lives.

I've read that his mom and he were hanging out around the time of Purple Rain, I never heard that he wouldn't speak to her but I've read that he had a lot of issues about her and would get pissed if anyone mentioned her. His dad was probably not that big of an emotional trigger but I've heard they went through phases of estrangement. I'm sure he helped them out in ways, his father was said to live in P's purple house and recieved a luxury car from P. You're parents are you're parents, it takes a lot for a relationship to be screwed up so bad that children wouldn't speak to them again.

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Reply #3 posted 06/02/16 12:16am

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In one of the recent articles by someone who worked for Prince, they told a story of being backstage or somewhere and Prince's mother was there and he was really sweet to her and the person could tell how much he cared about her, etc. P was such a sensitive soul and I"m sure he loved his Moms, even though I'm sure some issues with her not standing up for him and being fine with him getting kicked out of the home at 13. But he probably eventually figured out she was messed up and not all her faut.

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Reply #4 posted 06/02/16 12:57am

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I read somewhere that his step-father was bitching at Prince to buy a bigger house for him and Prince's mom and Prince hung up on his ass and then threw the phone. I'm not surprised, especially when that very same step-father used to lock him in his room for hours. And his mother...she was wrong for even allowing that shit to go down, especially being a social worker and all.

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Reply #5 posted 06/02/16 1:26am

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AbstractPoetic91 said:

I read somewhere that his step-father was bitching at Prince to buy a bigger house for him and Prince's mom and Prince hung up on his ass and then threw the phone. I'm not surprised, especially when that very same step-father used to lock him in his room for hours. And his mother...she was wrong for even allowing that shit to go down, especially being a social worker and all.

This story is from the LipstickAlley Girl.

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Reply #6 posted 06/02/16 2:13am

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In some cultures they get mad at the parents and never speak to them again or go so far as to feel justification in harming them physically...some just let shit fly. Prince probably the latter cause if he the true Gemini he loved his mother dearly and I believed he did too.
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Reply #7 posted 06/02/16 2:25am

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Just because someone says it, does not make it true. So many twisted stories and downright lies. It's easy when the ones written about are unable to defend themselves.
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Reply #8 posted 06/02/16 3:59am

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I remember seeing her at Paisley Park during one of the celebrations.
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Reply #9 posted 06/02/16 4:15am

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If you watch the 1987 New Year's Eve gig at Paisley his mom is there in the front row of the audience, the band shakes hands with fans in the front row including her.. I think from memory it might be during the extended instrumental intro to purple rain

He seemed to be very close with his dad throughout the entire 1980s - giving him songwriting credits on a few songs, bringing him to movie premieres, buying him a car, letting him live in his purple house, until his dad gave an interview to a current affair in 1990/91 and prince apparently wasn't happy about it and they fell out over it for years
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Reply #10 posted 06/02/16 5:03am

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"I don't know; I was just thinking about... mother" - Reflections
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Reply #11 posted 06/02/16 5:23am

jdcxc

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I remember seeing her at Paisley Park during one of the celebrations.



I sat near her during a Chicago Love Symbol concert...P gave a shoutout from the stage to his family.
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Reply #12 posted 06/02/16 5:55am

destinyc1

What year did the mom and dad pass?Very good looking parents

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Reply #13 posted 06/02/16 5:57am

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They were close. There was a local article after his kingdom hall memorial that quoted an elder in the JW community who said he was with Prince at his monther's bedside when she died. So he was with at the very end and arranged her burial. His mother also wanted him to become a Jehovah's Witness - apparently that was one of her dying wishes - which he obvisously did.

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Reply #14 posted 06/02/16 6:16am

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I'm sure part of why he stayed in Minnesota was because of family.

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Reply #15 posted 06/02/16 7:07am

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Mr. Hayward Baker (Prince´s stepdad) gets a lot of flak here on the org for stuff that supposedly happened when? 45 years ago? Cut the guy some slack, just because some biographies edged it in stone by mentioning his difficult relationship with his stepdad does not mean that Prince and him had a tense relationship until the very end.

I saw Mr.Hayward Baker at Paisley Park, he was very close to me most of the time and then Prince came and when he saw him he smiled, they both hugged each other and everything seemed fine.

And the same goes for his mom and other relatives.

It´s good to get some insight from biographies and interviews but remember that times and people change.

You can´t expect Prince to hold on to a grudge for more than four decades, just like you can´t expect him to cling to certain females for more than three decades.

One of the problems with talking about your private life when you´re famous is that whatever you say becomes almost everlasting.

People saw Madonna and Sean Penn having a conversation at a restaurant a few years ago and boy was there an uproar in the media because, you know, Sean Penn beat her up in the mid 80s and they had a nasty split.

But...so what? They obviously made up again and stayed friends and let bygones be bygones.

And the same goes for Prince , and every other human being.

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Reply #16 posted 06/02/16 7:43am

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KoolEaze said:

Mr. Hayward Baker (Prince´s stepdad) gets a lot of flak here on the org for stuff that supposedly happened when? 45 years ago? Cut the guy some slack, just because some biographies edged it in stone by mentioning his difficult relationship with his stepdad does not mean that Prince and him had a tense relationship until the very end.

I saw Mr.Hayward Baker at Paisley Park, he was very close to me most of the time and then Prince came and when he saw him he smiled, they both hugged each other and everything seemed fine.

And the same goes for his mom and other relatives.

It´s good to get some insight from biographies and interviews but remember that times and people change.

You can´t expect Prince to hold on to a grudge for more than four decades, just like you can´t expect him to cling to certain females for more than three decades.

One of the problems with talking about your private life when you´re famous is that whatever you say becomes almost everlasting.

People saw Madonna and Sean Penn having a conversation at a restaurant a few years ago and boy was there an uproar in the media because, you know, Sean Penn beat her up in the mid 80s and they had a nasty split.

But...so what? They obviously made up again and stayed friends and let bygones be bygones.

And the same goes for Prince , and every other human being.

I agree. And Prince invited both his mother and stepdad to the Purple Rain premier. So, I think they mended fences. Fathers were stern back then, but I think any physical discipline was mostly doled out by his bio-dad (whom he forgave).

Prince said in an early interview that his step-dad showered him and his sister with gifts to try to win their affection. That doesn't sound like a bully. (I think P made some stuff up when he was a kid.) He made the kids do chores, which P didn't like, but every kid complains about their new stepdad initially.

And remember, Hayward Baker is also the same man that put a 10 year old Prince on stage with James Brown, which forever changed his life. So, I'm on Team Baker!

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Reply #17 posted 06/02/16 8:35am

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databank said:

AbstractPoetic91 said:

I read somewhere that his step-father was bitching at Prince to buy a bigger house for him and Prince's mom and Prince hung up on his ass and then threw the phone. I'm not surprised, especially when that very same step-father used to lock him in his room for hours. And his mother...she was wrong for even allowing that shit to go down, especially being a social worker and all.

This story is from the LipstickAlley Girl.

razz lol

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Reply #18 posted 06/02/16 9:55am

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databank said:



AbstractPoetic91 said:


I read somewhere that his step-father was bitching at Prince to buy a bigger house for him and Prince's mom and Prince hung up on his ass and then threw the phone. I'm not surprised, especially when that very same step-father used to lock him in his room for hours. And his mother...she was wrong for even allowing that shit to go down, especially being a social worker and all.



This story is from the LipstickAlley Girl.



Ok lol
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Reply #19 posted 06/02/16 10:10am

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AbstractPoetic91 said:

databank said:

This story is from the LipstickAlley Girl.

Ok lol

The veracity of her tales will always be uncertain. I found most of her posts, however, highly believeable and cohesive with previous knowledge. Certain other things sounded a bit more unlikely. She herself claimed that she had sometimes "arranged" the truth in order to make it more juicy. Now that Prince is gone maybe one day that person will reveal herself, but if she was a mythomaniac she was a hell of a talented one!

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Reply #20 posted 06/02/16 11:35am

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simm0061 said:

They were close. There was a local article after his kingdom hall memorial that quoted an elder in the JW community who said he was with Prince at his monther's bedside when she died. So he was with at the very end and arranged her burial. His mother also wanted him to become a Jehovah's Witness - apparently that was one of her dying wishes - which he obvisously did.

someone else on here said that his mother was a baptist. I also read the version you've stated.

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Reply #21 posted 06/02/16 11:37am

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KoolEaze said:

Mr. Hayward Baker (Prince´s stepdad) gets a lot of flak here on the org for stuff that supposedly happened when? 45 years ago? Cut the guy some slack, just because some biographies edged it in stone by mentioning his difficult relationship with his stepdad does not mean that Prince and him had a tense relationship until the very end.

I saw Mr.Hayward Baker at Paisley Park, he was very close to me most of the time and then Prince came and when he saw him he smiled, they both hugged each other and everything seemed fine.

And the same goes for his mom and other relatives.

It´s good to get some insight from biographies and interviews but remember that times and people change.

You can´t expect Prince to hold on to a grudge for more than four decades, just like you can´t expect him to cling to certain females for more than three decades.

One of the problems with talking about your private life when you´re famous is that whatever you say becomes almost everlasting.

People saw Madonna and Sean Penn having a conversation at a restaurant a few years ago and boy was there an uproar in the media because, you know, Sean Penn beat her up in the mid 80s and they had a nasty split.

But...so what? They obviously made up again and stayed friends and let bygones be bygones.

And the same goes for Prince , and every other human being.

it's great to hear that they made up, it doesn't mean that bad things didn't happen though. My parents did some awful things and I don't really hold it against them anymore, you just realize that it's not easy in this society we live in for anyone to be good to anyone. My bro on the other hand won't talk to my stepdad at all, everyone is different.

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Reply #22 posted 06/02/16 1:36pm

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PeteSilas said:

simm0061 said:

They were close. There was a local article after his kingdom hall memorial that quoted an elder in the JW community who said he was with Prince at his monther's bedside when she died. So he was with at the very end and arranged her burial. His mother also wanted him to become a Jehovah's Witness - apparently that was one of her dying wishes - which he obvisously did.

someone else on here said that his mother was a baptist. I also read the version you've stated.

He was raised seventh day adventist. She may have changed to baptist at some point but she converted to a jw by the time of her death.

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Reply #23 posted 06/02/16 1:40pm

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simm0061 said:

PeteSilas said:

someone else on here said that his mother was a baptist. I also read the version you've stated.

He was raised seventh day adventist. She may have changed to baptist at some point but she converted to a jw by the time of her death.

i've heard baptist, and or jw. I know he was raised seventh day adventist and that would make sense with the JW's because there are a lot of consistencies.

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Reply #24 posted 07/20/16 1:07am

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surelyafan said:

What was his relationship with her like? I have read bits and pieces, but given that he lived so close to his mom, I wonder if they ever sorted things out and if they were involved in each other's lives.

P had a great relationship with his mom before she died, so any problems they had in the years during his childhood had been forgiven.

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Reply #25 posted 07/20/16 9:28am

tish9311

Prince and his dad seemed hot and cold. One day they are dressed like twins and the next they are estranged. There was an interview where Prince stated that he and his dad were estranged and that he hope they would get back together again. I want to say it was a Parade era interview. I don't remember ever hearing any one ask about his mom.

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Reply #26 posted 07/20/16 10:02am

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Melted said:

In some cultures they get mad at the parents and never speak to them again or go so far as to feel justification in harming them physically...some just let shit fly. Prince probably the latter cause if he the true Gemini he loved his mother dearly and I believed he did too.


Which cultures are those then?
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Reply #27 posted 07/20/16 10:11am

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tish9311 said:

Prince and his dad seemed hot and cold. One day they are dressed like twins and the next they are estranged. There was an interview where Prince stated that he and his dad were estranged and that he hope they would get back together again. I want to say it was a Parade era interview. I don't remember ever hearing any one ask about his mom.

Yes,that was the oprah interview.But,he said they would be ok soon

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Reply #28 posted 07/20/16 10:15am

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jdcxc said:

donnyenglish said:
I remember seeing her at Paisley Park during one of the celebrations.
I sat near her during a Chicago Love Symbol concert...P gave a shoutout from the stage to his family.

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Did everybody thank her for carrying Prince in her belly? It seems like the fans would love her.

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Reply #29 posted 07/20/16 12:44pm

wavesofbliss

tyka said in a radio interview that she didn't get all the talk about her mom being a JW. tyka said her mom was a baptist her whole life. this was around 08/09.

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around the time of her death, it was reported that prince didn't attend her funeral. that could mean anything but it's worth mentioning. he always said that his flashy peacock tendencies came from his mom. he always said that she loved to accomplish things and tell everyone about it.

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i never doubted that mattie and prince overcame their personal wierdness from prince's childhood,the step-dad et al. but it was always clear that the damage had been done to both p and tyka. it's kinda like when you accidentally runover the nieghbor's pet; you can say your sorry and eventually speak again but the pet's dead and the pain is real for them, forever.

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prince's treatment of the women throughout his life sure points to an inability to trust women and and inability to believe that one of them would find him loveable. those things come from trouble with mom, not dad. i believe that the way he treated his band and business associates was the way his dad treated him; all hard driving SOB and back- handed compliments. autocratic and extremly rigid.

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i wanna hug him. i'm glad he is at rest now.

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