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Reply #90 posted 05/23/16 3:37pm

Dandroppedadim
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200 Balloons
Feel U Up
I Love U In Me
Sex

We also got:

Batmix

Vicki Vale Mix

Future Remix

Electric Chair Remix

Partyman (Remixes)

Scandalous (Sex Suite)

+ Dance With The Devil

+ Batdance (Big Daddy Kane Mix!!!!)

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Reply #91 posted 05/23/16 3:43pm

PeteSilas

Everyone has a different idea of when P "jumped the shark' I don't think he ever did and I can't say that I've really disliked anything although some of his albums just never caught me, the lotusflower thing with the horrid bria set was a lowpoint for me and chaos and disorder never caught me but i don't even know if that's because of all the negativity i've heard or the album itself, some of his albums, for some reason, i never really did listen too. then others, most i'd say, i'd wear out.

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Reply #92 posted 05/23/16 3:47pm

Noodled24

Cloreen said:

SoulAlive said:

.His soundtrack was massively successful, so apparently folks liked it, for the most part.

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Went through this already. Once again: that BATMAN film was a juggernaut. Anything associated with it sold big. You put that Batman logo on friggin' breakfast cereal back then, people bought it.



This is true, but that's advertising. People buy cereal. Put a Batman logo on something and what kid doesn't want the one with the Batman logo on it?

Simply putting the Batman logo on something with artistic merit doesn't mean you've got a hit. Ask George Cloony.



Now think about this: Prince has well over 1,000 songs out there. The majority of them are good to great. But out of all that material only five made it to number 1 in the US.


"out there" and "elligable for charts" aren't the same thing though are they trolly mctrolltheorg?



And one of those five was...."Batdance"? Now are you going to tell me "Batdance" made it to number one on the strength of it being one of Prince's greatest songs or did it hit number one on the strength of the BATMAN film juggernaut? That song and Prince's album were successful because they rode the BATMAN coat-tails. Do I and others find the album and the song "Batdance" great? Of course. But the big numbers they achieved were due to the fact that anything BATMAN related sold big then.


Radios played the Batdance single because of the sleeve? The song stayed on charts around the world because of the sleeve?

I'm not sure the charts had ever heard anything like Batdance.

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Reply #93 posted 05/23/16 3:52pm

Noodled24

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GirlBrother said:

The album has sold over eleven million copies. That's pretty big. I see the album as the last of his classic run from Dirty Mind onwards. Many people stop at Lovesexy, but Batman has that classic Prince vibe. More importantly, the singles had his last run of classic B-sides. 200 Balloons Feel U Up I Love U In Me Sex They were all real standalone songs, and not reworkings of the A-sides, like many other later B-sides were. That trend started earlier with "This Is Not Music, This Is A Trip" and "Escape." I'm thankful that we got one last flourish of classic B-sides before the 80s ended.

That number is incorrect. U took that from Wikipedia, which anyone can submit...

The actual sales are over 4.7 million copies world wide and certified 2x platinum in the U.S. alone.


Your source?

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Reply #94 posted 05/23/16 3:54pm

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Noodled24 said:



Cloreen said:




SoulAlive said:



.His soundtrack was massively successful, so apparently folks liked it, for the most part.



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Went through this already. Once again: that BATMAN film was a juggernaut. Anything associated with it sold big. You put that Batman logo on friggin' breakfast cereal back then, people bought it.





This is true, but that's advertising. People buy cereal. Put a Batman logo on something and what kid doesn't want the one with the Batman logo on it?

Simply putting the Batman logo on something with artistic merit doesn't mean you've got a hit. Ask George Cloony.




Now think about this: Prince has well over 1,000 songs out there. The majority of them are good to great. But out of all that material only five made it to number 1 in the US.




"out there" and "elligable for charts" aren't the same thing though are they trolly mctrolltheorg?





And one of those five was...."Batdance"? Now are you going to tell me "Batdance" made it to number one on the strength of it being one of Prince's greatest songs or did it hit number one on the strength of the BATMAN film juggernaut? That song and Prince's album were successful because they rode the BATMAN coat-tails. Do I and others find the album and the song "Batdance" great? Of course. But the big numbers they achieved were due to the fact that anything BATMAN related sold big then.




Radios played the Batdance single because of the sleeve? The song stayed on charts around the world because of the sleeve?

I'm not sure the charts had ever heard anything like Batdance.


To reinforce... E.T was like one of the biggest movies ever...E.T the video game? Shittiest game ever...and MILLIONS got sold...TO THE LANDFILL. Why? It was a shitty game.
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Reply #95 posted 05/23/16 3:59pm

GirlBrother

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feeluupp said:


That number is incorrect. U took that from Wikipedia, which anyone can submit...



Yes, I did. lol

Anyway. Never mind that. It's still a fucking huge number of sales...

While I was googling, I found an excerpt from a book. It's super-interesting.

https://books.google.co.u...mp;f=false

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Reply #96 posted 05/23/16 4:07pm

feeluupp

Noodled24 said:

feeluupp said:

That number is incorrect. U took that from Wikipedia, which anyone can submit...

The actual sales are over 4.7 million copies world wide and certified 2x platinum in the U.S. alone.


Your source?

not u again... im not rodserling lol

just check RIAA.

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Reply #97 posted 05/23/16 4:14pm

CherryMoon57

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Am I the only one here that had only gone to see the film because Prince had written the soundtrack?

As for the album, The Future has remained one of my all times favs, I listened to it a few days ago and thought it still sounds good after all these years. I can't really say that about the rest of the songs on this album though.

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Reply #98 posted 05/23/16 4:49pm

Cloreen

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BobGeorge909 said:

To reinforce... E.T was like one of the biggest movies ever...E.T the video game? Shittiest game ever...and MILLIONS got sold...TO THE LANDFILL. Why? It was a shitty game.

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Yeah, and now imagine how even less it would have sold if it were called A.T. and had nothing at all to do with the film.

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So let me get this straight. Your position is that tie-in products to super successful films only sell well if that tie-in is of high quality? You've got to be kidding.

I (and millions of others) have some real shitty MEGO Planet Of The Apes action figures that prove your "theory" is absurd.

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Reply #99 posted 05/23/16 4:52pm

Cloreen

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Noodled24 said:



Radios played the Batdance single because of the sleeve? The song stayed on charts around the world because of the sleeve?

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Uhh, you do realize the song had some thing to do with Batman other than the sleeve, no?

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Reply #100 posted 05/23/16 4:55pm

PeteSilas

CherryMoon57 said:

Am I the only one here that had only gone to see the film because Prince had written the soundtrack?

As for the album, The Future has remained one of my all times favs, I listened to it a few days ago and thought it still sounds good after all these years. I can't really say that about the rest of the songs on this album though.

i went to see it because it was hyped all to hell.

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Reply #101 posted 05/23/16 5:06pm

SoulAlive

I think Prince's album brought some *coolness* to the movie.His "Batdance" single was THE song of summer '89.People say that he latched onto something that was bound to be massively successful,but let's give him some credit for what he brought to the table.
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Reply #102 posted 05/23/16 5:09pm

Lianachan

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CherryMoon57 said:

Am I the only one here that had only gone to see the film because Prince had written the soundtrack?



As for the album, The Future has remained one of my all times favs, I listened to it a few days ago and thought it still sounds good after all these years. I can't really say that about the rest of the songs on this album though.


I was a big Batman fan and a huge Prince fan, so news that he was doing the soundtrack for a more gritty Batman film was, well, music to my ears.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov
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Reply #103 posted 05/23/16 5:10pm

PeteSilas

it worked for him, like i said, too bad he squandered his clout on graffiti bridge. I will always believe he could have been a very good filmaker and sign o' the times was fanfuckingtastic. Even UTCM had really good cinemetography. His problem was he just couldn't take advice or help and had to control everything, worked with music, didn't work with cinema.

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Reply #104 posted 05/23/16 5:11pm

SoulAlive

and I'll tell you something else: I think his "Batdance" music video was more fun and more exciting than the Batman movie was! I'm serious.
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Reply #105 posted 05/23/16 5:21pm

PeteSilas

SoulAlive said:

and I'll tell you something else: I think his "Batdance" music video was more fun and more exciting than the Batman movie was! I'm serious.

also, the partyman vid, which we didn't get to see much of at the time, P was rarely that open and joyous in his vids, it's refreshing to see, also a great acting performance with all the mugging for the camera. it's obvious our man had a full vocabulary of expressions as an american child of tv.

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Reply #106 posted 05/23/16 5:23pm

SPYZFAN1

There's a long time rumour that P was briefly in the film. Supposedly he's (disguised) in one of the crowd scenes.

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Reply #107 posted 05/23/16 5:24pm

Cloreen

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SoulAlive said:

and I'll tell you something else: I think his "Batdance" music video was more fun and more exciting than the Batman movie was! I'm serious.

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You damn right it was. More fun and more exciting. You said it.

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I remember walking out of BATMAN opening night and thinking, "Why is this movie called BATMAN? It should be called THE JOKER." The whole movie was Jack. Movie was a huge let down. To put it bluntly, it sucked. But at least we got a Prince CD and some Batman cereal out of it.

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Reply #108 posted 05/23/16 5:25pm

laurarichardso
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Cloreen said:



endiadj said:


i thought the songs fit fine. this was not a dark batman. this was lighter tone.

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What!?! Not a dark BATMAN???


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OK, compared to the Heath Ledger Joker and those Chris Nolan Batman films, yeah, the Tim Burton Batman does not appear dark. But that is looking at it from a 2016 perspective. Go back to 1989 and all we had was Adam West and Burt Ward and Cesar Romero and all that goofy WHAM! SPLAT!!! stuff...and Tim Burton's film was a new DARK version of Batman. It was seen as a really dark look at the Dark Knight. And the Prince songs -- these 1980s synth songs -- did not fit.


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Watch the darn movie. The albums songs are really conveniently left out of the film. No one involved in the film was happy with what Prince came up with. Aside from "Partyman" were the album songs really front and center?


-- But the songs are good and the album sold 2 million copies. In addition, the future and electric chair are not happy tunes and no one was laughing about Prince doing the soundtrack.
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Reply #109 posted 05/23/16 5:26pm

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NorthC said:

Guitarhero said:



weirdozmedia said:




10000Degrees said:


Cloreen said: None of this is true!!! What's the point of making things up?

That guy's always trolling this board with complete nonsense, can't believe more people don't call him out on it.



If you think he is a troll , why do so many take the bate? Let him open a thread and if you think he is trolling people should just not reply biggrin


I don't think Cloreen is a troll, just like I don't think Bart was a troll or any of the other so-called haters. Everybody's got a right to state their opinion! You think Mountains was the last time Prince was really great? Go on, say it! Nothing wrong with that!

-- opionions are one thing lies are another.
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Reply #110 posted 05/23/16 5:27pm

PeteSilas

Cloreen said:

SoulAlive said:

and I'll tell you something else: I think his "Batdance" music video was more fun and more exciting than the Batman movie was! I'm serious.

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You damn right it was. More fun and more exciting. You said it.

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I remember walking out of BATMAN opening night and thinking, "Why is this movie called BATMAN? It should be called THE JOKER." The whole movie was Jack. Movie was a huge let down. To put it bluntly, it sucked. But at least we got a Prince CD and some Batman cereal out of it.

naw, the movie was great, deep, alot of stuff over people's heads, the idea of opposites, the confusion over who is really who which was a theme throughout the movie. the choice of michael keaton in a role where the emphasis was on real acting than on physicality. And Nicholson of course stole the show, like Morris stole Purple rain, by being the loveable, unpredictable devil.

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Reply #111 posted 05/23/16 5:30pm

SoulAlive

SPYZFAN1 said:

There's a long time rumour that P was briefly in the film. Supposedly he's (disguised) in one of the crowd scenes.




Yeah I heard that rumor.I need to go back and watch the film again.Maybe this time,I will find him,lol
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Reply #112 posted 05/23/16 5:35pm

Cloreen

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PeteSilas said:

naw, the movie was great,

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Hey, that's cool, you enjoyed it. Millions sure did.

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I just hate superhero movies. Loved the first two Christopher Reeves SUPERMAN films. To me that's how superhero films should be done. Grand, fun entertainment. This dark crap is annoying. Yeah, wealth, super powers, get the nice looking girls, drive a bitchin' car....and Batman is gloomy. I ain't buying it. I also hate the fact that every movie that opens is a friggin' super hero movie! What are we up to now? THOR PART MCXIII?. What ever happened to movies made for adults? Boy, I would kill if someone would make a movie like THE FRENCH CONNECTION today. Nah, instead of realistic gritty dramas we get gloomy Iron Man taking on a villain from Pluto.

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Reply #113 posted 05/23/16 5:40pm

PeteSilas

Cloreen said:

PeteSilas said:

naw, the movie was great,

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Hey, that's cool, you enjoyed it. Millions sure did.

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I just hate superhero movies. Loved the first two Christopher Reeves SUPERMAN films. To me that's how superhero films should be done. Grand, fun entertainment. This dark crap is annoying. Yeah, wealth, super powers, get the nice looking girls, drive a bitchin' car....and Batman is gloomy. I ain't buying it. I also hate the fact that every movie that opens is a friggin' super hero movie! What are we up to now? THOR PART MCXIII?. What ever happened to movies made for adults? Boy, I would kill if someone would make a movie like THE FRENCH CONNECTION today. Nah, instead of realistic gritty dramas we get gloomy Iron Man taking on a villain from Pluto.

I haven't seen too many of them and the later batman movies weren't that good. Heath Ledger had his outstanding performance but I don't really like modern movies that much period.

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Reply #114 posted 05/23/16 6:01pm

Noodled24

Cloreen said:

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Uhh, you do realize the song had some thing to do with Batman other than the sleeve, no?


Yes, and there was obvious synergy. But I think Batdance was released before the film. Thus creating hype rather than riding on the success of.
I know that playing the record today it sounds cheesy. Back in 1989 it was still kind of edgy. For contrast - Madonna was on the charts around the same time with "Express Yourself".


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Reply #115 posted 05/23/16 8:46pm

Cloreen

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Noodled24 said:

But I think Batdance was released before the film. Thus creating hype rather than riding on the success of.

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True, but that's not the way it works.

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Yes, the "Batdance" single was released prior to the film. Just look at the Billboard charts and you can find the dates. Single came out June 8 and its first appearance on US charts was June 17. The film came out June 23. So, yeah, the single was out before the film. But it just was a simple chart entry before the film.

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Film came out on June 23, was one of the biggest releases I can recall, all things Batman went through the roof. Then, on August 8th, was when the Prince tune made it to number 1. So, you see, the film and its overwhelming popularity carried the song to number 1. Two weeks after the BATMAN film was out, Prince had the number 1 song in the nation with a Batman song.

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The song didn't create hype for the film. Sure, the idea that Prince was doing music for the film was a part of the film's hype, but the song "Batdance" itself was not driving the film. The film drove that song to number 1 two weeks after the film was released.

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Reply #116 posted 05/24/16 1:57am

CherryMoon57

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SoulAlive said:

and I'll tell you something else: I think his "Batdance" music video was more fun and more exciting than the Batman movie was! I'm serious.

Same here, I remember how entranced I was with that video and the choreography at the time. It was (and still is) brilliant. Didn't think much of the film, and actually the whole time I was watching it I was wondering how long until a Prince song would come on, and thought we didn't hear enough of them.

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Reply #117 posted 05/24/16 7:36pm

thedance

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Dandroppedadime said:

200 Balloons
Feel U Up
I Love U In Me
Sex

We also got:

Batmix

Vicki Vale Mix

Future Remix

Electric Chair Remix

Partyman (Remixes)

Scandalous (Sex Suite)

+ Dance With The Devil

+ Batdance (Big Daddy Kane Mix!!!!)

amazing I agree, just wonderful:..... woot!

I wonder why anyone would seek for "bigger plans".

That makes no sense Batman from Prince was a huge succes commercially and artistically, AFAIK..!

Just wonderful.... music

[Edited 5/24/16 19:37pm]

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Reply #118 posted 05/24/16 7:43pm

SoulAlive

CherryMoon57 said:



SoulAlive said:


and I'll tell you something else: I think his "Batdance" music video was more fun and more exciting than the Batman movie was! I'm serious.


Same here, I remember how entranced I was with that video and the choreography at the time. It was (and still is) brilliant. Didn't think much of the film, and actually the whole time I was watching it I was wondering how long until a Prince song would come on, and thought we didn't hear enough of them.



I was thinking the same thing as I was watching the movie smile parts of the movie were so boring to me
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Reply #119 posted 05/24/16 7:46pm

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^^ imo the number 1 hit Batdance should have been played during the end credits..

I wonder why they chose "Scandalous"... very strange... imo...

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