Same thing was said about all musicians that have died from overdoses. Yet...

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With that said, the autopsy report hasn't even been released.

suomynona said:

Same thing was said about all musicians that have died from overdoses. Yet...

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With that said, the autopsy report hasn't even been released.

Yep.............

suomynona said:

I do think Prince is a unique case (assuming of course what we think we know is true).

Many dismissed Michael's death (me included) as "Dude was already nuts and unstable" and that he paid his way to the pills and all the wierd treatments. We unfairly put the blame all on him, even in the face of criminal conviction of his Dr.

Similar with other drug deaths (Hoffman etc)....we all blame the victim of addiction more so than the systematic and persistent reasons why this poison is out there.

Prince was known to have lived a relatively clean life. I think its shocking to everyone that this has gone down this way. Its a wake up call to many.

suomynona said:

What a load of nonsense this thread is.

One can only hope. I had thought that would be the case with MJ's death. Because while propofol was the ultimate cause, he'd had an off and on pain killer problem since the 80s from the Pepsi accident, so in that sense he started in a way similar to Prince (if it turns out that everything we have been hearing about pain pills, etc... does turn out to be true), and then there was the bridge accident in the 90s.

MJ's death really should have been the wake up call for the public and law agencies to try to do more (on top of the massive prescription problem that this country has). So we'll see. With Prince everything was SO unexpected, so maybe that will be the push. I hope that his family gets involved with changing legislation. That could certainly make a difference. Start a foundation for alternative research or something.

Doubt it. How can a doctor say NO he would've got elsewhere. Money equals power. Similar to jacko.. Problem with the rich they dont belive in NO!!!. and who would say no to Prince.. sad way to go

donnyenglish said:

Prince was always bigger than life. His death has led to an international focus on pain management and addiction. Laws will be changed, behaviors will be changed and lives will be saved. It has even become an issue in the presidential race. Doctors will know be more careful. Enablers will be more careful. Sad that it had to happen to my hero but this should give us some com.

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suomynona said:

Same thing was said about all musicians that have died from overdoses. Yet...

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With that said, the autopsy report hasn't even been released.

I have lost count of how many times we keep having to say it.

I'm a part of a VA (veterans) Facebook group and a lot of vets depend on opiod meds from their service related injury for permanent pain. They are upset because Dr's have taken their medicine in light of recent opioid events. They are worried because nothing else works and they are worried about how much the ibuprofen and acetaminophen is hurting their liver. Some taking over 4000 mgs a day. And it still only brings the pain down to 6/10 in some cases. A life in pain is no life at all. They maintain that dependency is different from addiction. That my dad must be an insulin addict and my friend is a lipitor addict if they are opioid addicts.

It's infuriating that the minority must ruin it for everyone and it is unacceptable to simply remove something without putting something in its place (to take away the pain). It's not ok to complain without suggesting a solution.

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violectrica said:

I'm a part of a VA (veterans) Facebook group and a lot of vets depend on opiod meds from their service related injury for permanent pain. They are upset because Dr's have taken their medicine in light of recent opioid events. They are worried because nothing else works and they are worried about how much the ibuprofen and acetaminophen is hurting their liver. Some taking over 4000 mgs a day. And it still only brings the pain down to 6/10 in some cases. A life in pain is no life at all. They maintain that dependency is different from addiction. That my dad must be an insulin addict and my friend is a lipitor addict if they are opioid addicts.

It's infuriating that the minority must ruin it for everyone and it is unacceptable to simply remove something without putting something in its place (to take away the pain). It's not ok to complain without suggesting a solution.

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My brother is in germany and he was given those pills .But,they're only suppose to be 7-10 days only.Thats the problem.He said the biggest prob he heard about are the pain patches.

violectrica said:

I'm a part of a VA (veterans) Facebook group and a lot of vets depend on opiod meds from their service related injury for permanent pain. They are upset because Dr's have taken their medicine in light of recent opioid events. They are worried because nothing else works and they are worried about how much the ibuprofen and acetaminophen is hurting their liver. Some taking over 4000 mgs a day. And it still only brings the pain down to 6/10 in some cases. A life in pain is no life at all. They maintain that dependency is different from addiction. That my dad must be an insulin addict and my friend is a lipitor addict if they are opioid addicts.

It's infuriating that the minority must ruin it for everyone and it is unacceptable to simply remove something without putting something in its place (to take away the pain). It's not ok to complain without suggesting a solution.

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THIS is why medical marijuana needs to be more widespread thoguh. Like this entire opiod/perscription med thing really speaks to a larger issue of how we classify "drugs" in this country and how we prescribe things. I'm not saying that medical marijuana would work in all cases, but I'm fairly confident that it would be a better alternative for some of the people you know that are dealing w/ injury related pain, especially since it won't kill if you if you become dependent.

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ya, i threw out my codiene pills last week. I'll just accept the migraines I get, go lay down, put some ice on my head, whatever. Sometimes it's better to just deal with the pain, life is pain, it's one of the great truths of most religions.

violectrica said:

I'm a part of a VA (veterans) Facebook group and a lot of vets depend on opiod meds from their service related injury for permanent pain. They are upset because Dr's have taken their medicine in light of recent opioid events. They are worried because nothing else works and they are worried about how much the ibuprofen and acetaminophen is hurting their liver. Some taking over 4000 mgs a day. And it still only brings the pain down to 6/10 in some cases. A life in pain is no life at all. They maintain that dependency is different from addiction. That my dad must be an insulin addict and my friend is a lipitor addict if they are opioid addicts.

It's infuriating that the minority must ruin it for everyone and it is unacceptable to simply remove something without putting something in its place (to take away the pain). It's not ok to complain without suggesting a solution.

[Edited 5/12/16 7:23am]

I knew a navy seal, he really had no choice than to be an addict. You can't go back in time and undo severe wounds. The result is, they just have to accept a shorter lifespans. I am grateful to the people I saw make mistakes in my life. I could have gotten myself screwed up real bad myself so I have a lot of sympathy.

avajane said:

Well, it seems the country is taking this opioid epidemic seriously. Check this article of President Obama with Macklemore discussing opioid abuse. http://www.nbcnews.com/po...74081[url]

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They have been taking it seriously for a great while. I don't know why this thread is still active.

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THE AUTOPSY RESULTS HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED. ENOUGH WITH THE GOSSIP FFS.

suomynona said:

Same thing was said about all musicians that have died from overdoses. Yet...

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With that said, the autopsy report hasn't even been released.

Unfortunately true...

Yea it might help with the epidemic. But if it wasnt for opioids when I had reproductive surgery twice and very severe menses pain, I wouldnt know what to do. Tylenol, Aleve and Ibu dont work to alevate this pain. Women can u hear me?? And once again Im faced with having ANOTHER surgery and have to get on this meds again. Funny thing is that I still have a few pills in my possession from long ago.

suomynona said:

Yes, this War on Drugs ramp up has been an Obama administration priority for a while now. It's so far resulted in more restrictive and privacy-invading laws and regulations, mainly against patients/citizens, and has led directly to a substantial increase in heroin overdoses.

The Prince coverage has given their efforts a huge shot in the arm, yet nothing proposed to develop safer pain meds or increase availability of medical marijuana. It's 95% the same old War on Drugs thinking that grants DEA/law enforcement budget increases, death and jail sentences and suffering for the rest of us.

PeteSilas said:

This is about what I expected...

Big Pharma Cashes In: Jacks Up Price of Overdose Antidotes

http://www.thedailybeast....ouble.html

"The auto-inject version of the drug that used to cost $575 for two doses now costs $3,750, according to Politico. The generic, Naloxone, isn’t much better: pre-crisis, the drug cost $1.84 per dose. Now, the drug costs 17 times that."

no rock star dying from drugs has saved someone else from doing them....even him

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