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Thread started 05/09/16 5:27am

clairew1975

Van Jones on Twitter says Prince knew who the "fake" friends were

I came across this interesting Twitter conversation from Van Jones regarding the awful rumours about Prince that we have seen splashed all over the media etc.

Black_Out_Abe: " I don't understand why more of his friends aren't coming out in defense of him and crap being put out there..."

Van Jones' Response - /we are just waiting to see who is who -- who is loyal & who is fake. I will tell you: he predicted every phony, 99 percent.

I hope his loyal friends will speak out soon, Prince deserves so much better....

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https://twitter.com/VanJones68/status/729081911218450434


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Reply #1 posted 05/09/16 5:33am

endiadj

i don't understand that reply. why wait until his name is mud, so to speak, just to flush out phonies? what's the point?
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Reply #2 posted 05/09/16 5:35am

clairew1975

endiadj said:

i don't understand that reply. why wait until his name is mud, so to speak, just to flush out phonies? what's the point?

I don't understand it either, what does he mean "we are waiting to see who is who?" Why?

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Reply #3 posted 05/09/16 5:39am

PurpleMusic07

Not sure exactly what we are waiting means, but defending Prince could be a full time job and most of these people already have one of those. Theyre his friends, not his PR person.

People have said things in his defense since the day. It is what it is at this point.
"Where you are now is in a place that does not require time." - Rest In Power, PRINCE
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Reply #4 posted 05/09/16 6:00am

destinyc1

PurpleMusic07 said:

Not sure exactly what we are waiting means, but defending Prince could be a full time job and most of these people already have one of those. Theyre his friends, not his PR person. People have said things in his defense since the day. It is what it is at this point.

I agree. But,i think van is speaking about those people that prince owed money to.That contacted the estate.Some on here have said prince didn't pay a few people.mj owed the thriller prod a mint never pd him and he submitted to the estate and they paid it.Now people like van thinks that they didn't do this while he was alive why now

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Reply #5 posted 05/09/16 6:15am

babynoz

Seeing what information leaks out helps to determine the source of the leak sometimes. Someone else mentioned claims being made to the estate. It isn't really that hard to figure out why they're waiting to see what crawls out of the woodwork.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #6 posted 05/09/16 6:20am

endiadj

babynoz said:

Seeing what information leaks out helps to determine the source of the leak sometimes. Someone else mentioned claims being made to the estate. It isn't really that hard to figure out why they're waiting to see what crawls out of the woodwork.



but why are they waiting. to say, ah ha, gotcha? why? what's the point?
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Reply #7 posted 05/09/16 6:21am

thedoorkeeper

Who is Van Jones?
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Reply #8 posted 05/09/16 6:22am

doodles

endiadj said:

i don't understand that reply. why wait until his name is mud, so to speak, just to flush out phonies? what's the point?


Ditto. His response was nonsensical. This isn't high school (i.e. worrying about who is "phony" or not).
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Reply #9 posted 05/09/16 6:23am

BombFunk

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Since Van seems to be one of Prince's closest friends ...

prince

Where the fuck was Van on Prince's lonely last night, just days after Prince's life already had to be saved for the first time with a save shot after the emergency landing? Even Prince cannot escape death twice in a row dude! That first time of saving his life should have been a fucking wake-up call for his fucking inner circle! But no, they all just left Prince alone, nothing changed. Did Van not realize it's not a good idea to leave Prince all alone by himself right after his life was already saved ONCE because of some medical urgent situation? (flu my ass!)

prince

Why did Van not send someone over (nurse, doctor, personal assistent, friend, family member etc) to make 100% sure Prince was alright or to just keep an eye out? No matter what Prince wanted, just sleep on the kitchen floor and stay out of his way but just be there!

prince

Why was there no (portable) emergency GPS system in place so Prince could press a button in case of an emergency (medical/robbery/kidnap attempt etc) and help would race to his location asap!? He was worth millions ffs. Not sure Prince had a cellphone, I think I read he did not have one which makes such a system even more important!

prince

What a mess ... and now Van is waiting for what exactly?


dove Forever changed dove wilted

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Reply #10 posted 05/09/16 6:30am

TheEnglishGent

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thedoorkeeper said:

Who is Van Jones?


I have no idea. I'd never heard of him (her?) until Prince passed.

RIP sad
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Reply #11 posted 05/09/16 6:31am

McD

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destinyc1 said:



PurpleMusic07 said:


Not sure exactly what we are waiting means, but defending Prince could be a full time job and most of these people already have one of those. Theyre his friends, not his PR person. People have said things in his defense since the day. It is what it is at this point.

I agree. But,i think van is speaking about those people that prince owed money to.That contacted the estate.Some on here have said prince didn't pay a few people.mj owed the thriller prod a mint never pd him and he submitted to the estate and they paid it.Now people like van thinks that they didn't do this while he was alive why now



Why now? I know people think this is just opportunism, but it's probably much simpler than that.

If you get stiffed by a major talent / global icon, or even a top businessman you've worked with, you may be loathe to start a war. The allure of further collaboration or business dealing remains, and you don't want to burn that bridge.

When they die? Half of the argument dies with them. Go get your money! If Prince didn't properly pay someone - and I'd be gobsmacked if this isn't true - they are far more deserving of THEIR money, than a half-sibling is of someone else's.
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Reply #12 posted 05/09/16 6:37am

clairew1975

thedoorkeeper said:

Who is Van Jones?

He is an "American political activist, commentator, author and attorney. He is a cofounder of several nonprofit organizations"

source: wikipedia

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Reply #13 posted 05/09/16 6:47am

babynoz

endiadj said:

babynoz said:

Seeing what information leaks out helps to determine the source of the leak sometimes. Someone else mentioned claims being made to the estate. It isn't really that hard to figure out why they're waiting to see what crawls out of the woodwork.

but why are they waiting. to say, ah ha, gotcha? why? what's the point?



It isn't "gotcha".....come on, disbelief

Shouldn't anyone trying to protect his legacy know who they are protecting it from? If stuff is leaking or bogus claims are being made then lawsuits, injunctions or other punitive measures may need to happen. I need to remind people again that this is an open probate case.

This really isn't hard to figure out.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #14 posted 05/09/16 6:49am

McD

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BombFunk said:

Since Van seems to be one of Prince's closest friends ...



I doubt that. Apart from anything else he was on a live political panel show the next night. A close friend wouldn't have done that, nor been able to.

BombFunk said:


Why did Van not send someone over (nurse, doctor, personal assistent, friend, family member etc) to make 100% sure Prince was alright or to just keep an eye out? No matter what Prince wanted, just sleep on the kitchen floor and stay out of his way but just be there!



Aside from the fact it wasn't his place, he probably didn't know the extent of the problem, and Prince wouldn't have allowed it... how does one do this? Pay someone to sleep on Prince's floor for 10 years? He didn't have a crystal ball and know when it might be needed. You know, he probably doesn't even have the Crystal Ball either.
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Reply #15 posted 05/09/16 6:55am

babynoz

BombFunk said:

Since Van seems to be one of Prince's closest friends ...

prince

Where the fuck was Van on Prince's lonely last night, just days after Prince's life already had to be saved for the first time with a save shot after the emergency landing? Even Prince cannot escape death twice in a row dude! That first time of saving his life should have been a fucking wake-up call for his fucking inner circle! But no, they all just left Prince alone, nothing changed. Did Van not realize it's not a good idea to leave Prince all alone by himself right after his life was already saved ONCE because of some medical urgent situation? (flu my ass!)

prince

Why did Van not send someone over (nurse, doctor, personal assistent, friend, family member etc) to make 100% sure Prince was alright or to just keep an eye out? No matter what Prince wanted, just sleep on the kitchen floor and stay out of his way but just be there!

prince

Why was there no (portable) emergency GPS system in place so Prince could press a button in case of an emergency (medical/robbery/kidnap attempt etc) and help would race to his location asap!? He was worth millions ffs. Not sure Prince had a cellphone, I think I read he did not have one which makes such a system even more important!

prince

What a mess ... and now Van is waiting for what exactly?





Coulda, shoulda, woulda..... rolleyes

Make a list of everybody YOU think should have done something....don't just single out one person.

How about starting with people who actually worked in the building/lived in Minneapolis, etc. Why would they need Van to tell them what to do if they were already there up close and personal?

I wish he hadn't been left alone either but I'm not going to sit here and single out individual people to lash out at.

Get. Over. Yourself.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #16 posted 05/09/16 7:03am

endiadj

babynoz said:



endiadj said:


babynoz said:

Seeing what information leaks out helps to determine the source of the leak sometimes. Someone else mentioned claims being made to the estate. It isn't really that hard to figure out why they're waiting to see what crawls out of the woodwork.



but why are they waiting. to say, ah ha, gotcha? why? what's the point?



It isn't "gotcha".....come on, disbelief

Shouldn't anyone trying to protect his legacy know who they are protecting it from? If stuff is leaking or bogus claims are being made then lawsuits, injunctions or other punitive measures may need to happen. I need to remind people again that this is an open probate case.

This really isn't hard to figure out.



like fake family members? i'm speaking about all the claims of prince being a long time drug addict, having aids, etc., from media and fans, people who have no claim to his estate. close associates can speak on that.
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Reply #17 posted 05/09/16 7:04am

starkitty

not sure if this fits here, but, cat is dropping so much shade on fb.

.

https://www.facebook.com/catherine.glover.37/posts/1089434337769473?pnref=story

.

"Catherine Glover

20 hrs ·

It's so funny that me and Miko Miko and other people that were involved in Prince's life as band members and dancers are so irrelevant that's because these Fame seeking whores !try to make themselves Prince's business manager Chief Chef who ever ..."

.

and some of her comments on that same post:

.

Catherine Glover Oh I was engaged to prince!! Bullshit! Liar!!!

.

Catherine Glover Not true!!!;

.

.

but then her kids(?) posted using her account saying that cat is in the hospital, so, who knows.

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Reply #18 posted 05/09/16 7:09am

irresistiblebi
tch666

starkitty said:

not sure if this fits here, but, cat is dropping so much shade on fb.


.


https://www.facebook.com/catherine.glover.37/posts/1089434337769473?pnref=story


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"Catherine Glover








20 hrs ·









It's so funny that me and Miko Miko and other people that were involved in Prince's life as band members and dancers are so irrelevant that's because these Fame seeking whores !try to make themselves Prince's business manager Chief Chef who ever ..."


.


and some of her comments on that same post:


.



Catherine Glover Oh I was engaged to prince!! Bullshit! Liar!!!



.



Catherine Glover Not true!!!;



.


.


but then her kids(?) posted using her account saying that cat is in the hospital, so, who knows.




It is very possible to use wifi from a hospital room so Cat could posting from her twitter account. I think Cat might be thtowing some serious shade at Sheila. Hmmmmph.
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Reply #19 posted 05/09/16 7:15am

emesem

That last one seems to be clear dig at Shiela.

THe "business manager" must be that dude in LA who claimed to be President of Paisely Park and gave interview to ABC. I think that even Dr. Funkenberry called him out.

irresistiblebitch666 said:

starkitty said:

not sure if this fits here, but, cat is dropping so much shade on fb.

.

https://www.facebook.com/catherine.glover.37/posts/1089434337769473?pnref=story

.

"Catherine Glover

20 hrs ·

It's so funny that me and Miko Miko and other people that were involved in Prince's life as band members and dancers are so irrelevant that's because these Fame seeking whores !try to make themselves Prince's business manager Chief Chef who ever ..."

.

and some of her comments on that same post:

.

Catherine Glover Oh I was engaged to prince!! Bullshit! Liar!!!

.

Catherine Glover Not true!!!;

.

.

but then her kids(?) posted using her account saying that cat is in the hospital, so, who knows.

It is very possible to use wifi from a hospital room so Cat could posting from her twitter account. I think Cat might be thtowing some serious shade at Sheila. Hmmmmph.

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Reply #20 posted 05/09/16 7:16am

starkitty

irresistiblebitch666 said:


It is very possible to use wifi from a hospital room so Cat could posting from her twitter account. I think Cat might be thtowing some serious shade at Sheila. Hmmmmph.

there's no think - that's exactly what she's doing. her kids posted the hospital stuff after all the shady stuff.

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Reply #21 posted 05/09/16 7:16am

clairew1975

endiadj said:

babynoz said:



It isn't "gotcha".....come on, disbelief

Shouldn't anyone trying to protect his legacy know who they are protecting it from? If stuff is leaking or bogus claims are being made then lawsuits, injunctions or other punitive measures may need to happen. I need to remind people again that this is an open probate case.

This really isn't hard to figure out.

like fake family members? i'm speaking about all the claims of prince being a long time drug addict, having aids, etc., from media and fans, people who have no claim to his estate. close associates can speak on that.

Looking through his Twitter he posted on May 8 saying "This" with a link to an article originally posted by PrinceWatchUK

http://allhiphop.com/2016/05/02/prince-theories-op-ed/

Maybe because Prince guarded his privacy so fiercly, all those speaking out about him and claim to be his "friend" are one of the 99% fake friends? I'm speculating here of course but it seems like Van Jones was making a barbed comment aimed at Prince's "friends" who have spoken out.

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Reply #22 posted 05/09/16 7:17am

starkitty

PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.

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Reply #23 posted 05/09/16 7:31am

irresistiblebi
tch666

clairew1975 said:



endiadj said:


i don't understand that reply. why wait until his name is mud, so to speak, just to flush out phonies? what's the point?


I don't understand it either, what does he mean "we are waiting to see who is who?" Why?



There are people who laughed in Prince's face but cut him all down his back. Not every person who came out in defenae of Prince has been legitimately tore up on the loss. We are talking about a brilliant musician who just so happened to be difficult in business and relationships and when you are like that, you will gain lots of enemies. You will gain enemies in people that you never expected. Some of the people that you see coming out right now either want money from that estate or 15 minutes of fame. There is a lot of proverbial money in that vault if the contents of it get released and the phonies are waiting around to see what happens with it. If that vault is opened, albums could be released for years to come. A lot of those albums are protege projects. If that vault is ordered to be destroyed, the mood of everything changes. Some of those people that were in Prince's inner circle who claim to be so torn up about his passing will start to gossip about him and spread rumors and even write salacious books. I would love to know who has already started to write a nasty memoir about Prince because they are coming and it will be from people that man trusted. The fate of the vault changes a lot basically. We talking about money here and aint a damn thing funny.
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Reply #24 posted 05/09/16 7:33am

emesem

Not if she thinks Sheila is lying.

starkitty said:

PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.

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Reply #25 posted 05/09/16 7:34am

irresistiblebi
tch666

starkitty said:

PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.



A lot changes in nearly 30 years and they might have had a falling out at some point.
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Reply #26 posted 05/09/16 7:40am

TheW00denLeg

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starkitty said:

PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.

I wanted to ask the same thing. I thought she mentioned herself that those 2 and Boni were friends.

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Reply #27 posted 05/09/16 8:04am

BombFunk

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babynoz said:




Coulda, shoulda, woulda..... rolleyes

Make a list of everybody YOU think should have done something....don't just single out one person.

How about starting with people who actually worked in the building/lived in Minneapolis, etc. Why would they need Van to tell them what to do if they were already there up close and personal?

I wish he hadn't been left alone either but I'm not going to sit here and single out individual people to lash out at.

Get. Over. Yourself.

prince

lol, Van is singling himself out by saying "Prince knew who the fake friends are" ... implying Van himself is not one of those fake friends.

prince

Anyway, here is Van himself telling how he feels about it ... (and rightly so, he fucking damn well should feel that way, like many others of Prince's inner circle of "friends" ... why the fuck did nobody of them do anything after the doctors saved his life only A FEW DAYS earlier? That should have been a fucking wake-up call to anyone close to Prince to DO SOMETHING, to ACT ... not just send him a fucking text or email or whatever asking "U ok?" WTF?!

prince

[Edited 5/9/16 8:05am]

[Edited 5/9/16 8:06am]


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Reply #28 posted 05/09/16 8:06am

destinyc1

Well,cat better get over herself cause tyka and sheila are pretty close

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Reply #29 posted 05/09/16 8:08am

destinyc1

destinyc1 said:

Well,cat better get over herself cause tyka and sheila are pretty close

Damn this made me cry

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