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Thread started 05/05/16 4:29am

SanMartin

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Question about aftershows

I just finished listening to Small Club for the first time, which was awesome, and I thought I'd get round to asking a question that's bugged me for ages, yet which I never asked in case it was stupid or really obvious.

My question is: how did Prince's aftershows work? Like, did you buy tickets in the normal way? Did you just have to 'know someone'? Or was it a case of being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time?

To two concerts I attended were Arras (07/2010) and Birmingham (05/2014). Am I correct in thinking that Prince didn't perform aftershows on those occasions? Or do I just lack the connections to have known about them?

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Reply #1 posted 05/05/16 4:47am

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You're right about there being no aftershows after those performances you have mentioned.


Details about aftershows were spread in different ways.

Sometimes it would be by word of mouth, sometimes there might be an announcement after the show.

In recent times there might be information about an after party using social media, and Prince might even perform.

Often it was cash at the door. Sometimes, tickets could be purchased in advance (for example, the London 2007 after shows at the IndigO2 could be purchased online in the same way as the standard shows at the O2 on the same evening - but there was no guarantee that Prince himself would perform on a particular night at the after show).

In the days of the NPG Music Club, a purchase of a ticket (by an NPGMC member) to a concert show in 2002 would also give you entry to the soundcheck and the pass also gave you free admission to the after party or after show later that evening.

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Reply #2 posted 05/05/16 4:57am

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Hi SanMartin,

I don't know about your situation, but there were different ways. I attended some aftershows and for those I could buy tickets in advance (2002 & 2007). But some aftershows were announced after the regular shows and you had to hurry to the location to get in. Always different and also he didn't always play an aftershow or had an afterparty.

Hope this answers your questions. If not, there are far more folks on here with more accurate info.

Small Club is great indeed. Favourit tune?
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Reply #3 posted 05/05/16 5:17am

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SanMartin said:

I just finished listening to Small Club for the first time, which was awesome, and I thought I'd get round to asking a question that's bugged me for ages, yet which I never asked in case it was stupid or really obvious.

My question is: how did Prince's aftershows work? Like, did you buy tickets in the normal way? Did you just have to 'know someone'? Or was it a case of being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time?

To two concerts I attended were Arras (07/2010) and Birmingham (05/2014). Am I correct in thinking that Prince didn't perform aftershows on those occasions? Or do I just lack the connections to have known about them?


I went to all three gigs you mentioned, and you are right, Arras and Birmingham didn't have aftershows.

As far as getting in is concerned, there have never been a set of rules.

In the earlier days, word of mouth was used from bouncers near the front. to clubs and people in the 'know'. Sometimes I would seek out staff and ask them. For The Hague for example (small club as you know it), I asked a security guard, who told me where to head.

That type of comunication prevailed till around 93, where they began to announce something on the tannoy (London Emporium Shows for example) which created a mad dash across town; to occasions where you could actually pre-book (Kings Cross - The Dawn and Cafe De Paris).

For 21 nights in London, all were prebookable.

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Reply #4 posted 05/05/16 5:29am

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In 2007 during the 21 nights in London, we used to simply purchase the tickets on the ticketmaster website at £31.21 each. These aftershows took place after the main O2 concerts at a small club (within the Dome) called the IndigO2. A friend and I went to as many of these shows as we could. Best thing we ever did! biggrin

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Reply #5 posted 05/05/16 5:32am

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CherryMoon57 said:

In 2007 during the 21 nights in London, we used to simply purchase the tickets on the ticketmaster website at £31.21 each. These aftershows took place after the main O2 concerts at a small club (within the Dome) called the IndigO2. A friend and I went to as many of these shows as we could. Best thing we ever did! biggrin

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I remember those being formally advertised, but there was no guarantee Prince was there as he was never advertised to perform.

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Reply #6 posted 05/05/16 5:36am

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For the ones I had attended I kept ringing the management to find out. These were in the days before the internet. After a certain time they were then allowed to say.

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At the London Oxford Street signing, after all of the crowds had left, the management went round telling people there was a gig.

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During the New Power Soul tour it was announced on the speakers after most of the stadium had emptied.

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So no great rule really.

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Reply #7 posted 05/05/16 5:36am

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darkroman said:

CherryMoon57 said:

In 2007 during the 21 nights in London, we used to simply purchase the tickets on the ticketmaster website at £31.21 each. These aftershows took place after the main O2 concerts at a small club (within the Dome) called the IndigO2. A friend and I went to as many of these shows as we could. Best thing we ever did! biggrin

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I remember those being formally advertised, but there was no guarantee Prince was there as he was never advertised to perform.

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But he did for most! He actually turned up at all of those I attended except one! And even then, his musicians (including Maceo Parker) did the show and it was absolutely fantastic. Definetely worth far more than the paid £31.21, and worth the gamble anyway.

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Reply #8 posted 05/05/16 5:41am

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Yeah the 21 night aftershows were brilliant but a chance happening. If you remember, the tickets were sold as 'aftershows' when they should have been sold as 'afterparties'.

When Prince did not appear on the second night (luckily one of the few nights I didn't go), people kicked off claiming the tickets should have been sold as afterparties.

I think the result was a lot more shows that they thought they were going to give.

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Reply #9 posted 05/05/16 5:51am

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Thanks to everyone for your replies!

Loefie: since I've only listened to it once, it's hard to say which one's my favourite. I think the guitar solos on Rave especially stand out, although they're great all the way through (I'd also forgotten that song wasn't originally written for the Rave album in the 90s - I don't think I've ever heard the original recording). It's Gonna be a Beautiful Night seems rather more energetic than the album version, although I suppose the same can be said for a lot of Prince's studio releases. Saying that, I don't think Housequake quite stacks up to the album cut. People Without is really cool... to be honest they all are! I'll give it another play-through this afternoon.

SquirrelMeat: I read a couple of threads from a a while ago about Small Club. Having read about your experiences at different concerts, I have to say I'm very envious!

It's a real shame I hadn't discovered Prince when he did the 21 nights in 2007. It was around that time that I saw the video for 1999 on the TV, which was the first step on the road to fandom. However, it wasn't until late 2009 that I bought Ultimate, just in time to get hyped up for and subsequently disappointed by 20Ten.

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Reply #10 posted 05/05/16 5:53am

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SanMartin said:

I just finished listening to Small Club for the first time, which was awesome, and I thought I'd get round to asking a question that's bugged me for ages, yet which I never asked in case it was stupid or really obvious.



My question is: how did Prince's aftershows work? Like, did you buy tickets in the normal way? Did you just have to 'know someone'? Or was it a case of being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time?



To two concerts I attended were Arras (07/2010) and Birmingham (05/2014). Am I correct in thinking that Prince didn't perform aftershows on those occasions? Or do I just lack the connections to have known about them?





My friends and I were lucky to get in the NighTTowN aftershow in Rotterdam in 1998.

After the show in Ahoy, Prince announced the aftershow in NighTTowN. So we got the car and drove to the city center. There was a huge line in the street. We needed to pay cash, luckily we all still had just enough money. Some unfortunate souls had to leave the line to find an ATM. The line proceeded slowly, but finally we were allowed in. We paid for our tickets and noticed straight away we were very lucky, indeed. 1000 people capacity, we had tickets 934 to 936. It is the most prized piece of Prince memorabilia I own.
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Reply #11 posted 05/05/16 6:19am

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During the Jam Of The Year Tour in '97, my friends and I hipped to the fact that if the tickets were $15, it would be an AfterPARTY with Prince in attendance and a DJ spinning tunes. If the tickets were $25, it would be an AfterSHOW and Prince would actually play. Unfortunately I learned this too late. Of the 3 shows I saw, I attended 2 Afterparties and went home after the other show only to miss the Aftershow in Nashville where Prince first jammed with Larry Graham.... I'm still kind of bummed about that 19 years later. neutral

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Reply #12 posted 05/05/16 7:15am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Yeah the 21 night aftershows were brilliant but a chance happening. If you remember, the tickets were sold as 'aftershows' when they should have been sold as 'afterparties'.

When Prince did not appear on the second night (luckily one of the few nights I didn't go), people kicked off claiming the tickets should have been sold as afterparties.

I think the result was a lot more shows that they thought they were going to give.

Yeah I as there and was soooo dissapointed he didn't turn up. But so so pleased as I was there on the final night (and many more in between) and he went on for like 4 hours or more!!! eek cool headbang

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Reply #13 posted 05/05/16 7:36am

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I was incredibly lucky with the 21 Nights aftershows/parties. I went to 5 and all 5 of them he showed up and did an epic set. There was only one I missed that I regret not going to (9th Sept.)

It was a guessing game for when he'd show up, but our logic was that if there was no arena show the next night and a sizable gap between shows that week, he'd be likley to come to the aftershow.

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Reply #14 posted 05/05/16 8:07am

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I don't know how often it was done, but I remember once he had someone go out in the crowd and hand out passes to an after show at Paisley Park. It was a sticker and it was really cool....I wish I still had it, but I think you had to wear it to get in and mine got wrecked.
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Reply #15 posted 05/05/16 8:13am

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During the Musicology Tour in 2004, I went to four after shows. One at House of Blues in Los Angeles, and three at Paisley Park. The L.A. HOB show I think was announced the day of around 12:00 noon, I don't have any idea how I came across a ticket, I honestly don't remember, but I think I had to meet someone that day to pick it up. The Paisley Park aftershows, I vividly remember. They were announced a couple of days ahead of time. I flew in from L.A. got a room at the Chanhassen Inn, and since EVERYONE in MPLS was at the arena gig in St. Paul, I mosied on over to PP around 8:30 in the evening on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friiday nights, and was somewhere between the 2nd and 10th person in line each evening, as it was pretty much deserted at that hour. You paid cash ($40) once the main gate to PP was opened, the girl at the cashbox gave you a laminate, and you stood online until 11:00 or 11:30 then they started letting people in. There was a DJ playing outside, many of the people at the front of the line were from out of town as again the locals had long since purchased their tickets to the arena gig. It was a very good time waiting on line, not tedious in the least, as I remember it. There are NO WORDS to describe the feeling of anticipation and excitement being led by security in a small group and then let into the main soundstage area of Paisley Park when you are at the VERY FRONT of the line. I knew during those three nights I had to be the luckiest son of a bitch that ever lived. Everything you have EVER heard about Prince aftershows is TRUE.

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Reply #16 posted 05/05/16 9:29am

Stimpy

SquirrelMeat said:

SanMartin said:

I just finished listening to Small Club for the first time, which was awesome, and I thought I'd get round to asking a question that's bugged me for ages, yet which I never asked in case it was stupid or really obvious.

My question is: how did Prince's aftershows work? Like, did you buy tickets in the normal way? Did you just have to 'know someone'? Or was it a case of being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time?

To two concerts I attended were Arras (07/2010) and Birmingham (05/2014). Am I correct in thinking that Prince didn't perform aftershows on those occasions? Or do I just lack the connections to have known about them?


I went to all three gigs you mentioned, and you are right, Arras and Birmingham didn't have aftershows.

As far as getting in is concerned, there have never been a set of rules.

In the earlier days, word of mouth was used from bouncers near the front. to clubs and people in the 'know'. Sometimes I would seek out staff and ask them. For The Hague for example (small club as you know it), I asked a security guard, who told me where to head.

That type of comunication prevailed till around 93, where they began to announce something on the tannoy (London Emporium Shows for example) which created a mad dash across town; to occasions where you could actually pre-book (Kings Cross - The Dawn and Cafe De Paris).

For 21 nights in London, all were prebookable.

you were at the Small Club show.

wow, what I would have given to have been there as well.

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Reply #17 posted 05/05/16 9:46am

Marc

Back in 1995 Prince performed two (?) nights in Den Bosch The Netherlands. We were not able to visit the first one, but decided to queue up pretty early (07am) for the second show.

Unfortunately rain was pouring down and a lot a fans were already waiting there (most of them stayed after the first concert). My girl (now wife) and me were pretty disappointed and discussed what to do. Because of the long trip I decided to visit the toilet first.

In the toilet a big dark American guy (security) asked me if I stayed after the first concert and I told him no. After a few minutes he said something like 'just imagine that Prince would perform in Amsterdam Paradiso tonight.', smiled at me and left...

I told my girl about this strange talk and we decided to drive to Amsterdam. During the trip I repeatedly called Paradiso (yes I had a cell phone in 1995). After a few calls I got lucky: the woman on the phone said she didn't know about Prince, but told me that a special party was planned (no artist mentioned). Presale would start at 09 an at Boudisque Records (?) in Amsterdam.

When we arrived at the store, a small queue was lined up. Everybody was expecting Prince in Paradiso that night. After the store opened we bought our tickets (just for us, no scalping. we didn't want to the other people after us to get less lucky).

We then drove back to Den Bosch, had dinner and entered the Brabanthallen to experience a great show (I recall "I love u in me"). After the show Prince yelled "See you in Amsterdam!", causing thousands of fans to run for their cars.

While driving to Amsterdam again (around 22pm), a lot of cars were racing to Amsterdam. When we arrived at Paradiso we had to wait till around 03am to see Prince in one of his best performances ever. He went nuts when the party sung "the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire. We don't need no water let the motherf*cker burn!".

Purple Memories. Thank you Prince

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Reply #18 posted 05/05/16 10:31am

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Some fantastic stories on here. Thanks to all who shared.

I went to 5 after shows at the Indigo (including the last one) and Prince performed at 4 of them. One of them there was no show, not even the band and Prince had apparently jetted off to Prague (I think) straight after the main show to film the Somewhere Here On Earth video.

The 4shows I saw were all really different. I was there for Grupo Fantasma night, Beverly Knight night, Will.I.Am night and the final night. Talked to quite a few band members before the shows who tended to hang out at or near the sound desk and on Will.I.Am night Prince himself walked right past us with about 7/8 security staff (including his own guy) trying to keep up with him before he appeared on the balcony a few minutes later. I acted cool but the group of girls beside us screamed, shouted his name and gave chase. MFer was fast though.

Been remembering a lot of good times in the past couple of weeks.
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Reply #19 posted 05/05/16 10:51am

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Stimpy said:



SquirrelMeat said:




SanMartin said:


I just finished listening to Small Club for the first time, which was awesome, and I thought I'd get round to asking a question that's bugged me for ages, yet which I never asked in case it was stupid or really obvious.



My question is: how did Prince's aftershows work? Like, did you buy tickets in the normal way? Did you just have to 'know someone'? Or was it a case of being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time?



To two concerts I attended were Arras (07/2010) and Birmingham (05/2014). Am I correct in thinking that Prince didn't perform aftershows on those occasions? Or do I just lack the connections to have known about them?






I went to all three gigs you mentioned, and you are right, Arras and Birmingham didn't have aftershows.

As far as getting in is concerned, there have never been a set of rules.

In the earlier days, word of mouth was used from bouncers near the front. to clubs and people in the 'know'. Sometimes I would seek out staff and ask them. For The Hague for example (small club as you know it), I asked a security guard, who told me where to head.

That type of comunication prevailed till around 93, where they began to announce something on the tannoy (London Emporium Shows for example) which created a mad dash across town; to occasions where you could actually pre-book (Kings Cross - The Dawn and Cafe De Paris).

For 21 nights in London, all were prebookable.



you were at the Small Club show.



wow, what I would have given to have been there as well.



Well, you got to go Arras and I loved that gig. One of the venues ever!
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Reply #20 posted 05/05/16 10:56am

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CherryMoon57 said:

In 2007 during the 21 nights in London, we used to simply purchase the tickets on the ticketmaster website at £31.21 each. These aftershows took place after the main O2 concerts at a small club (within the Dome) called the IndigO2. A friend and I went to as many of these shows as we could. Best thing we ever did! biggrin

The aftershow tickets were only £25 + booking fee, I believe.

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Reply #21 posted 05/05/16 11:28am

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Loefie said:

Hi SanMartin,

But some aftershows were announced after the regular shows and you had to hurry to the location to get in. Always different and also he didn't always play an aftershow or had an after party.


That's the way it always was here, for Toronto fans (at least during the 2000s.) An announcement would always be made, before or after the show. The NPGMC was in full swing too, so you had the option of attending preshows as well at an added cost (paid in advance online). They were something, Prince would be super candid, & ask our input for setlists etc.

I was fortunate enough to be living in Toronto when he was, as well. & he was really partial to clubbing, the odd time someone would put the word out. I don't know how they got the info, I am almost convinced it was circulated by someone from Prince's camp, so there was the odd time he would host something impromptu.

The last after party he had in Toronto was @ Everleigh, & we all knew well in advance. They prompted it on the club's website. There was a $25 cover charge. I paid at the door. I never thought it would be the last time I ever saw Prince...
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Reply #22 posted 05/05/16 2:43pm

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leecaldon said:

CherryMoon57 said:

In 2007 during the 21 nights in London, we used to simply purchase the tickets on the ticketmaster website at £31.21 each. These aftershows took place after the main O2 concerts at a small club (within the Dome) called the IndigO2. A friend and I went to as many of these shows as we could. Best thing we ever did! biggrin

The aftershow tickets were only £25 + booking fee, I believe.

It was £56.75 for 2 downstairs tickets on some shows and £57 on other dates. For some reason I had remembered £31.21, I think it had initially been advertised at that price.

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Reply #23 posted 05/05/16 2:57pm

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CherryMoon57 said:

leecaldon said:

The aftershow tickets were only £25 + booking fee, I believe.

It was £56.75 for 2 downstairs tickets on some shows and £57 on other dates. For some reason I had remembered £31.21, I think it had initially been advertised at that price.

The main shows were £31.21 and the aftershows were £25.

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Reply #24 posted 05/05/16 3:24pm

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Ellie said:

I was incredibly lucky with the 21 Nights aftershows/parties. I went to 5 and all 5 of them he showed up and did an epic set. There was only one I missed that I regret not going to (9th Sept.)

It was a guessing game for when he'd show up, but our logic was that if there was no arena show the next night and a sizable gap between shows that week, he'd be likley to come to the aftershow.

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Reply #25 posted 05/06/16 1:30am

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CherryMoon57 said:



Ah, the red hat, loved that show. Did anyone get a picture of it? I'm so sad that he had such a strict control on people taking photo's as it would be great to have the odd pic or two to help boost the fading memories.

RIP sad
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Reply #26 posted 05/06/16 1:36am

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I saw a Prince aftershow in 2002 in the morning of June 7. I heard a rumour about it and contacted a friend I knew in the newspaper business, who confirmed it. I went to the venue and waited outside in line for hours and then waited in the venue for another hour. We paid $30 cash (it was specified that it had to be cash) and Prince went on at 1am and played for about an hour. Totally worth the wait!!

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Reply #27 posted 05/06/16 2:14am

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TheEnglishGent said:

CherryMoon57 said:



Ah, the red hat, loved that show. Did anyone get a picture of it? I'm so sad that he had such a strict control on people taking photo's as it would be great to have the odd pic or two to help boost the fading memories.


You were there too? That's so cool, I love the .org for that, it really helps keep the memories alive. I do have a few photos someone had emailed me after the 13th, with me on stage and a very short clip of Prince, but they are all very blurry. As you say, it is a shame they were so strict about photo taking. I remember a few stories of people's cameras being snatched off by security.

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Reply #28 posted 05/06/16 2:27am

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CherryMoon57 said:

TheEnglishGent said:



Ah, the red hat, loved that show. Did anyone get a picture of it? I'm so sad that he had such a strict control on people taking photo's as it would be great to have the odd pic or two to help boost the fading memories.


You were there too? That's so cool, I love the .org for that, it really helps keep the memories alive. I do have a few photos someone had emailed me after the 13th, with me on stage and a very short clip of Prince, but they are all very blurry. As you say, it is a shame they were so strict about photo taking. I remember a few stories of people's cameras being snatched off by security.


Sure was, great show. headbang

I really wanted to take pics but had seen many people get thrown out at earlier shows for doing it, so didn't dare.

RIP sad
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Reply #29 posted 05/06/16 2:37am

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Ahhh memories! My friend and I were a few rows back from the stage on one of his London shows in '95. It was in Wembley Arena. Anyway, at one point during the show a massive mountain of a man sidled up to us...
Man: "do you want to go to HIS party?"
Me: (annoyed, not wanting to miss a minute of the show) "What? Who's party"
Man: "HIS" pointing to Prince who was still going by his o(-> name at this point.
Me: (laughing) um yeah sure.
We took the invitations thinking for sure it was just some weirdo but after the show we were pumped and thought we'd swing by the club Emporium which was printed on the invite.
We got there and there was a massive queue to get in. We assumed everyone had invitations. We thought we'd try to blag it and go to the front... Turns out they were real invitations and we went straight in...apparently directly from the man himself 😮 Prince played and it was incredible. One of the greatest nights of my life.
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