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Iconic performance or something else? Just revisited the 1991 MTV performance where Prince wore 'the pants' after several years of not having seen it. What statement was he making with that performance? How odd that he had those guys mount him at the begin as he made that crying out sound. Any thoughts? | |
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.....and the pants!!! | |
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I remember watching that at a party and hearing a loud collective groan when Tony M did the dry hump with P. My friends looked at me (they knew I was a big fan) and asked; "Yo what's up with your boy?..I think he's trying to tell us something". I stayed quiet and didn't say anything. | |
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Some distrubing mess...damn you for bringing it up | |
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it was only this week I found out his errr backside wasn't really exposed . wish I'd known that back then . really like the performance. it was one of the first P performances I saw 'live' on TV | |
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THe dance move with Prince and Tony M was a really old school pre-hip-hop move. I think I first saw Fred Berry's crew (Rerun frrm What's Happening) do it. The pants costume was something Prince had worn by that point roughly 10 years, just in black not yellow. | |
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OMG...Prince fans took a lot of teasing that week | |
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I never liked that song. Prince tried to be less sexual with Lovesexy album, and just felt that he was retreating to the sex thing to sell records. And that performance was a big Caligula type orgy, just designed to shock people and just wasn't imaginative. . I just felt at the time that he wasn't being true to himself with that song and was doing it for commercial reasons. It's not a bad song but it is very contrived. | |
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Something else. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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rightbluecheek said: Something else. How is 'iconic' defined in your book? Its definitely one that people often mention when talking about Prince. In this past week alone there have been countless notations of the man who was "bold enough to wear ass chaps" and things of that nature. It definitely struck a cord with people...and the fact that it was widely televised gives it even more impact on the overall composite that we piece together of him | |
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mightycow said: it was only this week I found out his errr backside wasn't really exposed . wish I'd known that back then . really like the performance. it was one of the first P performances I saw 'live' on TV It was a lace window | |
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He was ass out trying to show us he still mattered. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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funksterr said: THe dance move with Prince and Tony M was a really old school pre-hip-hop move. I think I first saw Fred Berry's crew (Rerun frrm What's Happening) do it. The pants costume was something Prince had worn by that point roughly 10 years, just in black not yellow. I never saw Rerun nor Ozone do ANYTHING like that. | |
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FunkiestOne said: I never liked that song. Prince tried to be less sexual with Lovesexy album, and just felt that he was retreating to the sex thing to sell records. And that performance was a big Caligula type orgy, just designed to shock people and just wasn't imaginative. . I just felt at the time that he wasn't being true to himself with that song and was doing it for commercial reasons. It's not a bad song but it is very contrived. I liked it back then...it was Prince! But in retrospect, there was a climate being set around that time with Madonna and Truth or Dare/Blonde Ambition. Did Prince feel he had to outsex her? [Edited 5/3/16 3:57am] | |
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I think he set out to reclaim pop territory and have a big hit album with Diamonds & Pearls, and it worked. Now I'm wondering if his ass was really out or was that just flesh colored fabric though? Either way it got people talking and earned him a lot of free publicity. ¡The Future Is Ours, If You Can Count! https://www.youtube.com/w...A_zTY0qWWk | |
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Does noone remember Prince at the Grammys winning numerous awards with his butt-out britches on and Lionell Ritchie screaming, "OUTRAGEOUS!"??? Prost! "Whatever skin we're in
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nayroo2002 said: Does noone remember Prince at the Grammys winning numerous awards with his butt-out britches on and Lionell Ritchie screaming, "OUTRAGEOUS!"??? Prost! Just watched that last night in YouTube. It was the American Music Awards (back when that was still taken seriously) and there was no ass-out that I saw. But then...at one point Lionel did make a comment about Prince staying in his seat that I neglected to go back and clarify the meaning behind | |
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mechanicalemotion17 said: rightbluecheek said: Something else. How is 'iconic' defined in your book? Its definitely one that people often mention when talking about Prince. In this past week alone there have been countless notations of the man who was "bold enough to wear ass chaps" and things of that nature. It definitely struck a cord with people...and the fact that it was widely televised gives it even more impact on the overall composite that we piece together of him You gave two possible answers. I chose the second one. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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nursev said: Some distrubing mess...damn you for bringing it up I would really like to delve into this reaction of repulsion more. It seems that most of us (Prince die hards anyway) are comfortable with his blatant androgeny....as long as it's quickly backed up/countered by a deep voice and something on the verge of womanizing. He could be as effeminate as he wanted/needed to be personally as long as there was no uncomfortable male on male innuendo that creeped its way into our fantasies about what his sexuality entailed. Do you think that Prince new the line in the sand and respected it by not daring to cross it for the most part? Hence his objection to the 'Bad' collaboration with Michael and the awkward jokes he made about it | |
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Even when he was dressing in heels, leggings and the bikini briefs there was that proverbial 'line' that he didn't dare to cross [Edited 5/3/16 3:57am] | |
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FunkiestOne said: I never liked that song. Prince tried to be less sexual with Lovesexy album, and just felt that he was retreating to the sex thing to sell records. And that performance was a big Caligula type orgy, just designed to shock people and just wasn't imaginative. . I just felt at the time that he wasn't being true to himself with that song and was doing it for commercial reasons. It's not a bad song but it is very contrived. My thoughts exactly! | |
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rightbluecheek said: mechanicalemotion17 said: How is 'iconic' defined in your book? Its definitely one that people often mention when talking about Prince. In this past week alone there have been countless notations of the man who was "bold enough to wear ass chaps" and things of that nature. It definitely struck a cord with people...and the fact that it was widely televised gives it even more impact on the overall composite that we piece together of him You gave two possible answers. I chose the second one. Ok, I'm going to elaborate on this, as I don't want to be misunderstood. I don't think he needed this kind of things to be "Iconic", as you say. I was a big fan in the eighties and for me personally, that was definitely not the way I expected him to portray himself. This has nothing to do with the dance with Tony M, or the fact that he was wearing those yellow pants, it's the overall situation I personally did not appreciate. Hope I explained my position. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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NorthC said: FunkiestOne said: I never liked that song. Prince tried to be less sexual with Lovesexy album, and just felt that he was retreating to the sex thing to sell records. And that performance was a big Caligula type orgy, just designed to shock people and just wasn't imaginative. . I just felt at the time that he wasn't being true to himself with that song and was doing it for commercial reasons. It's not a bad song but it is very contrived. My thoughts exactly! You're forgetting about Graffiti Bridge being smak in the middle of those two albums. Tick, Tick, Bang, Bang was definitely sexual. We Can Funk was also dripping with innuendo | |
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^^^ LOL "dripping"  | |
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mechanicalemotion17 said: NorthC said: My thoughts exactly! You're forgetting about Graffiti Bridge being smak in the middle of those two albums. Tick, Tick, Bang, Bang was definitely sexual. We Can Funk was also dripping with innuendo Not really, because Graffiti Bridge was still about finding enlightenment and saving your soul or whatever you want to call it. But both Lovesexy and GB were flops in the US, so Prince must have figured, sex sells and made Gett Off. And the Diamonds and Pearls album which was the first time he started chasing trends instead of creating them. That was the biggest complaint fans and critics had about D&P: ihis music was becoming more and more commercial. And I always thought Prince himself felt this too and that's what led to the name change (not just a contract thing): the only way to be himself again was to lose the "Prince" image. | |
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Its fantastc, because it was pure Prince. Never scared, and never duplicated. (Insert something clever here) | |
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NorthC said: mechanicalemotion17 said: You're forgetting about Graffiti Bridge being smak in the middle of those two albums. Tick, Tick, Bang, Bang was definitely sexual. We Can Funk was also dripping with innuendo Not really, because Graffiti Bridge was still about finding enlightenment and saving your soul or whatever you want to call it. But both Lovesexy and GB were flops in the US, so Prince must have figured, sex sells and made Gett Off. And the Diamonds and Pearls album which was the first time he started chasing trends instead of creating them. That was the biggest complaint fans and critics had about D&P: ihis music was becoming more and more commercial. And I always thought Prince himself felt this too and that's what led to the name change (not just a contract thing): the only way to be himself again was to lose the "Prince" image. It also deserves mention that the Love Symbol album fell in between Lovesexy and D&P. Sexy M.F. was overtly sexual (and never one of my favorite songs) [Edited 5/3/16 15:28pm] | |
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