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Thread started 02/09/16 1:47pm

PurpleJedi

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Another self-destructive single? Why no video for 1,000 X's & O's?

I've been hearing 1,000 X's & O's on the radio with a decent amount of frequency lately.

But there is no video.

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For the first time in a long time, I've heard a Prince song with decent rotation on the radio. I was telling a friend about it, who immediately (as is the norm today) went to YouTube to try to find it.

Is this another self-destructive single from the Purple One???

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Reply #1 posted 02/09/16 1:59pm

NorthC

He doesn't give a damn, so why should you. bored2
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Reply #2 posted 02/09/16 2:00pm

Militant

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Prince just doesn't focus much on music videos these days.

He's only made 4 in the last 5 years : RNRLA, Screwdriver, Breakfast Can Wait, Marz.

If you compare that to any other 5 years in his career it's pretty low. For example, there was 20 videos between 1985-1990.

So I think it's just that music vids aren't a priority, regardless of if the song is a hit or not.


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Reply #3 posted 02/09/16 2:17pm

EmmaMcG

Music videos cost money to make. Unless it's one of those shitty lyric videos, in which case, it can be made in 10 minutes using cheap editing software. But who wants another one of them?
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Reply #4 posted 02/09/16 2:25pm

Genesia

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Produce a video for what? Are there even any channels that show videos anymore?

Because we know how he feels about youtube.

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Reply #5 posted 02/09/16 2:38pm

ludwig

Genesia said:

Produce a video for what? Are there even any channels that show videos anymore?

Yes there are. And we have the internet. A lot of music videos are still getting produced. Open your eyes and look around.

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Reply #6 posted 02/09/16 2:40pm

NorthC

EmmaMcG said:

Music videos cost money to make. Unless it's one of those shitty lyric videos, in which case, it can be made in 10 minutes using cheap editing software. But who wants another one of them?

I think Prince started that whole thing with Sign O' the Times. Damn. That was pretty unusual back then. And it only added power to the song. Imagine how easy it would have been to just add images to the words. "Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling off a church" coupled with images of a hurricane. That would be so boring and ruin the song. The idea of NOT doing that and just show the words was perfect.
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Reply #7 posted 02/09/16 3:35pm

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A video would have made too much sense. Then again, he might be pissed that the most popular song on this new album was written by his old self, not the new and improved watered down Jehovah version of himself.

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Reply #8 posted 02/09/16 3:56pm

RosesRred

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Genesia said:

Produce a video for what? Are there even any channels that show videos anymore?



Because we know how he feels about youtube.


Why waste money,energy and time? Does it really matter at this point??
A video isnt going to have his music flying off the shelves.
Reality check people, sometimes when i mention
Prince to people, I feel like i'm the only person in
the whole universe who really cares about any of his past or his
future projects. I wish I didn't feel
like that but thats reality. A music video will not bring back
the masses. Another reality check for me: I just realize that
Lotusflow3r was the last CD i have purchased.
Now that tells you what? If I'm losing interest then that tells me
Houston we have a problem.
[Edited 2/9/16 16:38pm]
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Reply #9 posted 02/09/16 5:11pm

iZsaZsa

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Why no video for 1,000 X's & O's?

If you have Twitter you could ask him at Prince3EG.
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Reply #10 posted 02/09/16 5:27pm

warning2all

Videos don't mean much anymore. It's not the '80's
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Reply #11 posted 02/09/16 10:33pm

alandail

warning2all said:

Videos don't mean much anymore. It's not the '80's

some videos have over a BILLION views

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Reply #12 posted 02/10/16 1:26am

EmmaMcG

NorthC said:

EmmaMcG said:

Music videos cost money to make. Unless it's one of those shitty lyric videos, in which case, it can be made in 10 minutes using cheap editing software. But who wants another one of them?

I think Prince started that whole thing with Sign O' the Times. Damn. That was pretty unusual back then. And it only added power to the song. Imagine how easy it would have been to just add images to the words. "Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling off a church" coupled with images of a hurricane. That would be so boring and ruin the song. The idea of NOT doing that and just show the words was perfect.


The Sign of the Times video worked so well because the lyrics are great and actually about something. As much as I like 1000 Hugs and kisses (and I REALLY like it) a lyrics video would do it no favours.
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Reply #13 posted 02/10/16 1:35am

EmmaMcG

RosesRred said:

Genesia said:

Produce a video for what? Are there even any channels that show videos anymore?



Because we know how he feels about youtube.


Why waste money,energy and time? Does it really matter at this point??
A video isnt going to have his music flying off the shelves.
Reality check people, sometimes when i mention
Prince to people, I feel like i'm the only person in
the whole universe who really cares about any of his past or his
future projects. I wish I didn't feel
like that but thats reality. A music video will not bring back
the masses. Another reality check for me: I just realize that
Lotusflow3r was the last CD i have purchased.
Now that tells you what? If I'm losing interest then that tells me
Houston we have a problem.
[Edited 2/9/16 16:38pm]


It may not bring back the masses, but most of my friends don't know who Prince is, and the ones that do couldn't name 5 songs. One friend of mine, who is a (semi)well known singer/actress, thought he was dead. And she's in the music industry! If nothing else, a video would create some awareness that he's still around. And you never know, there's every chance that he could have a surprise hit. I mean, nobody expected Nile Rogers to top the charts but he had a big hit a couple of years ago.
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Reply #14 posted 02/10/16 2:28am

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EmmaMcG said:

I mean, nobody expected Nile Rogers to top the charts but he had a big hit a couple of years ago.

I love Nile, but that was a Daft Punk song.

If the price of Prince getting more chart relevance is a collaboration with an electronic act......... Hmm. I don't know how I'd feel about that. Depends on the act, I guess.

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Reply #15 posted 02/10/16 7:02am

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Militant said:

Prince just doesn't focus much on music videos these days.

He's only made 4 in the last 5 years : RNRLA, Screwdriver, Breakfast Can Wait, Marz.

If you compare that to any other 5 years in his career it's pretty low. For example, there was 20 videos between 1985-1990.

So I think it's just that music vids aren't a priority, regardless of if the song is a hit or not.


U 4got Bambi (reloaded), Plectrumelectrum, Indifference, Live Out Loud, Baltimore, Anotherlove, Funknroll and Fixurlifeup. However it seems Marz, Anotherlove and Funknroll were commissioned by WB without any P involvement.

[Edited 2/10/16 7:04am]

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Reply #16 posted 02/10/16 7:41am

EmmaMcG

Militant said:



EmmaMcG said:


I mean, nobody expected Nile Rogers to top the charts but he had a big hit a couple of years ago.


I love Nile, but that was a Daft Punk song.

If the price of Prince getting more chart relevance is a collaboration with an electronic act..... Hmm. I don't know how I'd feel about that. Depends on the act, I guess.



The point I was trying to make is that you never know how a song will be received. Prince could have had a hit with any number of songs over the last 10 years but the lack of promotion is astonishing. People need to know of the songs existence before it can become popular. Now, personally, I don't care if Prince has a hit or not. But if I was Prince, I'd want to make a bit of money so I'd at least try to promote my music.
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Reply #17 posted 02/10/16 9:08am

jayspud

There is clearly a great deal of interest in this song. The views on Youtube for Peach and Black etc prove this. The continued chart positon of the song make me feel a little push would have made this song very high up the charts indeed.

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Reply #18 posted 02/10/16 10:06am

PurpleJedi

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YouTube and whatever other venues exist out there ARE the way youngsters today find & listen to music.

It is a cryng shame that I can sit down with my 15 year old and show her Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Janet Jackson, Celia Cruz, Hector Lavoe, Culture Club, Billy Idol, Diana Ross, Stylistics, Jackson 5, Marvin Gaye, SugarHill Gang, Cover Girls, Exposé, TKA, etc., etc., etc.,

...but I CANNOT show her any PRINCE!!!!

And if a BRAND NEW song is out there, getting radio airplay (!!!) then I consider that somewhat self-destructive towards the success of the single.

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Reply #19 posted 02/10/16 10:11am

2freaky4church
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Singles are done.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #20 posted 02/10/16 10:12am

PurpleJedi

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2freaky4church1 said:

Singles are done.


If you mean 45's or physical "singles", then yes.

However, music today is all ABOUT the singles.

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Reply #21 posted 02/10/16 10:24am

EroticDreamer

Rock n Roll Love Affair could have been a great live video. music

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Reply #22 posted 02/10/16 10:59am

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PurpleJedi said:

YouTube and whatever other venues exist out there ARE the way youngsters today find & listen to music.

It is a cryng shame that I can sit down with my 15 year old and show her Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Janet Jackson, Celia Cruz, Hector Lavoe, Culture Club, Billy Idol, Diana Ross, Stylistics, Jackson 5, Marvin Gaye, SugarHill Gang, Cover Girls, Exposé, TKA, etc., etc., etc.,


...but I CANNOT show her any PRINCE!!!!

And if a BRAND NEW song is out there,
getting radio airplay (!!!) then I consider that somewhat self-destructive towards the success of the single.

shrug



I know how you feel . I remember when I was in the library waiting at the front desk and this teenager walked in returning about six cds
by Prince. I asked him did he enjoy the music. He just said yeah and told me he was just checking out his music and he didn't know much about him. I then turned to stop him as he was walking away to suggest some videos but then I remembered that Prince doesn't want any new fans.

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Reply #23 posted 02/10/16 12:08pm

PurpleJedi

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RosesRred said:

PurpleJedi said:

YouTube and whatever other venues exist out there ARE the way youngsters today find & listen to music.

It is a cryng shame that I can sit down with my 15 year old and show her Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Janet Jackson, Celia Cruz, Hector Lavoe, Culture Club, Billy Idol, Diana Ross, Stylistics, Jackson 5, Marvin Gaye, SugarHill Gang, Cover Girls, Exposé, TKA, etc., etc., etc.,

...but I CANNOT show her any PRINCE!!!!

And if a BRAND NEW song is out there, getting radio airplay (!!!) then I consider that somewhat self-destructive towards the success of the single.

shrug

I know how you feel . I remember when I was in the library waiting at the front desk and this teenager walked in returning about six cds by Prince. I asked him did he enjoy the music. He just said yeah and told me he was just checking out his music and he didn't know much about him. I then turned to stop him as he was walking away to suggest some videos but then I remembered that Prince doesn't want any new fans. neutral neutral


sigh

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Reply #24 posted 02/10/16 2:17pm

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iZsaZsa said:

Why no video for 1,000 X's & O's?

If you have Twitter you could ask him at Prince3EG.

"ONLY TALKS PRINCE IS IN: WHERE 2 HAVE THE AFTERPARTY IN MELBOURNE ON THE 17TH? THOUGHTS?"

lol lol lol Nevermind, sorry, PJ.
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Reply #25 posted 02/10/16 2:26pm

PurpleJedi

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iZsaZsa said:

iZsaZsa said:
Why no video for 1,000 X's & O's? If you have Twitter you could ask him at Prince3EG.
"ONLY TALKS PRINCE IS IN: WHERE 2 HAVE THE AFTERPARTY IN MELBOURNE ON THE 17TH? THOUGHTS?" lol lol lol Nevermind, sorry, PJ. [Edited 2/10/16 14:19pm]


lol

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Reply #26 posted 02/10/16 3:14pm

CharismaDove

Prince does not need promotion. He's the biggest act of all time and '1000 X's and O's' will eventually reach number 1 rolleyes

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #27 posted 02/10/16 6:09pm

savagedreams

alandail said:

warning2all said:

Videos don't mean much anymore. It's not the '80's

some videos have over a BILLION views

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and what does it mean? nothing..... it means people listened to your song a billion times without paying for it. the point of a video basically was a comercial for an album. these days they dont make much difference in album sales since you can stream it anytime, anywhere. these days not having a video available online could actually make people buy it more if they dont have the choice of the free srtream.

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Reply #28 posted 02/10/16 6:12pm

savagedreams

PurpleJedi said:

YouTube and whatever other venues exist out there ARE the way youngsters today find & listen to music.

It is a cryng shame that I can sit down with my 15 year old and show her Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Janet Jackson, Celia Cruz, Hector Lavoe, Culture Club, Billy Idol, Diana Ross, Stylistics, Jackson 5, Marvin Gaye, SugarHill Gang, Cover Girls, Exposé, TKA, etc., etc., etc.,

...but I CANNOT show her any PRINCE!!!!

And if a BRAND NEW song is out there, getting radio airplay (!!!) then I consider that somewhat self-destructive towards the success of the single.

shrug

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you make it sound as if everything he ever released was destroyed. did you not ever buy anything of prince that you can play to show someone about prince? why should all music be available for free online?

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does no one remember that we actually did discover abd ourchase new music once upon a time before the internet existed?

[Edited 2/10/16 18:13pm]

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Reply #29 posted 02/12/16 7:36am

PurpleJedi

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savagedreams said:

PurpleJedi said:

YouTube and whatever other venues exist out there ARE the way youngsters today find & listen to music.

It is a cryng shame that I can sit down with my 15 year old and show her Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Janet Jackson, Celia Cruz, Hector Lavoe, Culture Club, Billy Idol, Diana Ross, Stylistics, Jackson 5, Marvin Gaye, SugarHill Gang, Cover Girls, Exposé, TKA, etc., etc., etc.,

...but I CANNOT show her any PRINCE!!!!

And if a BRAND NEW song is out there, getting radio airplay (!!!) then I consider that somewhat self-destructive towards the success of the single.

shrug

.

you make it sound as if everything he ever released was destroyed. did you not ever buy anything of prince that you can play to show someone about prince? why should all music be available for free online?

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does no one remember that we actually did discover abd ourchase new music once upon a time before the internet existed?

[Edited 2/10/16 18:13pm]


confused

Seriously?

I was making a factual & truthful STATEMENT, not looking to imply any sort of mass destruction of music.
Your opinion is obviously in the vein of Prince's. That's all well and good.
But, the FACT of the matter is; kids today aren't going to Tower Records like we did back in the day. It's ALL about social media and the internet.

The fact that you dismiss the legitimacy of "a billion views" on the internet leads me to believe that you're not entirely up to date with what's going on today.
shrug

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