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Reply #60 posted 01/29/16 11:13am

darkroman

It's really odd that people are assuming 'Electric Fetus' is distributing when they are not.

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The postal service are doing the distribution.

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It's weird that a manufacturer gives a box of CDs to Paisley Park, who gives the box to a Middle Man, who gives the CD to a Post Office.

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Surely prince has a minion who can pop a CD in the post - even Kevin, Bob and Stuart could do that.

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Anyway, in two weeks this will all be forgotten about and we'll be arguing over the quality of HitNRun Part 3 and whether or not it's his greatest work. A week after that we'll argue if it will ever get to be on CD (again).

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Sadly this has become very disposable!

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lol lol lol


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Reply #61 posted 01/29/16 3:58pm

djThunderfunk

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BartVanHemelen said:

djThunderfunk said:


First, I agree CB was a fiasco, and ALMOST everything you said is true. However, each disc is nearly 50 min. I mean, come on, we don't have to exaggerate to make this case as all 3 discs could have easily fit on 2.

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Yes, you're correct.


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Reply #62 posted 01/29/16 7:58pm

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SoulAlive said:



laurarichardson said:


MIRvmn said:
His next album will probably only be a digital release after this mess

-/- All releases will be digital soon.


No,they won't rolleyes


/// What planet are you living on? Go into retail stores Do you see a lot of CDs? Cd plants are closing. New cars do not CDs players. Pc do not have drives and the music industry is already reducing the amount of music on cd. Oh we also have this thing called streaming. Please remove your head from the sand.
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Reply #63 posted 01/29/16 8:00pm

laurarichardso
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darkroman said:



SoulAlive said:


I remember the Crystal Ball fiasco in 1997 and now all these years later,Prince is *still* having problems with distributing a CD..,lol...you'd think by now,he would have learned something!



I do think this CD 'fiasco' is something of a myth. the CD campaign was awesome and flawless from my side of things.



lol lol lol lol


Exactly I went to Best Buy and purchased it. No problems.
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Reply #64 posted 01/29/16 8:11pm

TheGhostlyNun

laurarichardson said:

darkroman said:



SoulAlive said:


I remember the Crystal Ball fiasco in 1997 and now all these years later,Prince is *still* having problems with distributing a CD..,lol...you'd think by now,he would have learned something!



I do think this CD 'fiasco' is something of a myth. the CD campaign was awesome and flawless from my side of things.



lol lol lol lol


Exactly I went to Best Buy and purchased it. No problems.


You clearly haven't bothered to read up on what the problem actually was at the time.

Maybe if you'd have spent money on an expensive five CD set that never arrived with no comeback from the seller, you may realise why it was called, quite rightly, a fiasco.
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Reply #65 posted 01/29/16 9:12pm

ludwig

laurarichardson said:

SoulAlive said:

No,they won't rolleyes

/// What planet are you living on? Go into retail stores Do you see a lot of CDs? Cd plants are closing. New cars do not CDs players. Pc do not have drives and the music industry is already reducing the amount of music on cd. Oh we also have this thing called streaming. Please remove your head from the sand.

A lot of people are still buying CDs and even vinyl, like myself. wink

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Reply #66 posted 01/29/16 10:00pm

djThunderfunk

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laurarichardson said:

SoulAlive said:

No,they won't rolleyes

/// What planet are you living on? Go into retail stores Do you see a lot of CDs? Cd plants are closing. New cars do not CDs players. Pc do not have drives and the music industry is already reducing the amount of music on cd. Oh we also have this thing called streaming. Please remove your head from the sand.


CDs still outsell digital.

http://www.chartattack.co...n-history/

And that says what? wink

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Reply #67 posted 01/29/16 10:02pm

SoulAlive

djThunderfunk said:

laurarichardson said:

SoulAlive said: /// What planet are you living on? Go into retail stores Do you see a lot of CDs? Cd plants are closing. New cars do not CDs players. Pc do not have drives and the music industry is already reducing the amount of music on cd. Oh we also have this thing called streaming. Please remove your head from the sand.


CDs still outsell digital.

http://www.chartattack.co...n-history/

And that says what? wink

Exactly lol she keeps trying to tell me that CDs are fading away and yet,I buy CDs every week or so and they're not hard to find at all....LOL

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Reply #68 posted 01/29/16 10:07pm

SoulAlive

laurarichardson said:

SoulAlive said:

No,they won't rolleyes

/// What planet are you living on? Go into retail stores Do you see a lot of CDs? Cd plants are closing. New cars do not CDs players. Pc do not have drives and the music industry is already reducing the amount of music on cd. Oh we also have this thing called streaming. Please remove your head from the sand.

I'm only gonna say this ONE MORE TIME so pay close attention:

AS LONG AS THERE ARE RECORD COMPANIES,THERE WILL BE CDS AND VINYL BEING MANUFACTURED AND SOLD.

You keep saying that CDs are fading away and yet,I regularly buy CDs (and vinyl) all the time,and it's not hard to find.Reports of the demise of the CD have been greatly exaggerated.Furthermore,there is a new report that,in the past few years,physical copies have actually outsold digital copies.

Are we clear on that? I'm tired of having this argument with you rolleyes

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Reply #69 posted 01/29/16 10:30pm

SoulAlive

ludwig said:

A lot of people are still buying CDs and even vinyl, like myself. wink

Exactly.Many of us aren't really into streaming or listening to music on a computer or iPhone.I buy CDs and vinyl and I play it on my stereo and turntable...the way music was meant to be played.

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Reply #70 posted 01/30/16 4:47am

EroticDreamer

SoulAlive said:

ludwig said:

A lot of people are still buying CDs and even vinyl, like myself. wink

Exactly.Many of us aren't really into streaming or listening to music on a computer or iPhone.I buy CDs and vinyl and I play it on my stereo and turntable...the way music was meant to be played.

Mmm-hmm and streaming ain't sexy.

I like to actually hold my prize, both of them!

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TOPIC- I don't know.

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Reply #71 posted 01/30/16 5:42am

funksterr

darkroman said:

It's really odd that people are assuming 'Electric Fetus' is distributing when they are not.

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The postal service are doing the distribution.

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It's weird that a manufacturer gives a box of CDs to Paisley Park, who gives the box to a Middle Man, who gives the CD to a Post Office.

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Surely prince has a minion who can pop a CD in the post - even Kevin, Bob and Stuart could do that.

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Anyway, in two weeks this will all be forgotten about and we'll be arguing over the quality of HitNRun Part 3 and whether or not it's his greatest work. A week after that we'll argue if it will ever get to be on CD (again).

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Sadly this has become very disposable!

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lol lol lol

I wondered this as well. Electric Fetus is charging $13.99 plus postage. Prince gave them $5 per unit sold for essentially collecting payment from his customers and mailing the cd's. He probably still has the 1800NewFunk nightmare on the brain.

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Reply #72 posted 01/30/16 5:53am

udo

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benjaminira said:

I think it's kind of brilliant, but how is he making money off this?

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How can this be brilliant if he doesn't make any money?

It says a lot about you, writing (!) you think it is brilliant.

I think it is a showing of a failed business undertaking.

His product is not wanted anymore, not even for distribution only.

(yes, I do assume he tried to find a dstribution deal)

If he did not try he is simply lazy and setting himself up to fail even more.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #73 posted 01/30/16 7:52am

warning2all

I don't mind ordering from a legit business like "Electric Fetus" and am excited for my order.

If this is the "new normal", then start printing up those Vault discs, Prince, and get them to Electric Fetus! Take my money!
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Reply #74 posted 01/30/16 8:39am

funksterr

warning2all said:

I don't mind ordering from a legit business like "Electric Fetus" and am excited for my order. If this is the "new normal", then start printing up those Vault discs, Prince, and get them to Electric Fetus! Take my money!


Me too. Even though I've already got the music. I'm thinking it'd be nice if he printed some official Chocolate Invasion and Slaughterhouse discs for Electric Fetus.

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Reply #75 posted 01/30/16 9:13am

darkroman

TheGhostlyNun said:

laurarichardson said:
Exactly I went to Best Buy and purchased it. No problems.
You clearly haven't bothered to read up on what the problem actually was at the time. Maybe if you'd have spent money on an expensive five CD set that never arrived with no comeback from the seller, you may realise why it was called, quite rightly, a fiasco.

In the last 18 years I've only ever heard of one or two people on here complain about ordering the CD set. So I really don't see what the problem is.

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At the time this was a cutting edge campaign and was simple flawless! And it was the first of it's kind in music history. It even came with a surprise free t-shirt! So what more could anyone ask for!

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lol lol lol

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Reply #76 posted 01/30/16 10:17am

djThunderfunk

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darkroman said:

TheGhostlyNun said:

laurarichardson said: You clearly haven't bothered to read up on what the problem actually was at the time. Maybe if you'd have spent money on an expensive five CD set that never arrived with no comeback from the seller, you may realise why it was called, quite rightly, a fiasco.

In the last 18 years I've only ever heard of one or two people on here complain about ordering the CD set. So I really don't see what the problem is.

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At the time this was a cutting edge campaign and was simple flawless! And it was the first of it's kind in music history. It even came with a surprise free t-shirt! So what more could anyone ask for!

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lol lol lol


Fiasco is a nice way to describe it. It was a clusterfuck if there ever was one.

- Orders were lost

- Some were charged double

- Some ordered 1 copy & recieved 2

- Some ordered 1 copy & recieved 0 (but were still charged)

- Some got a t-shirt (I didn't)

- Some got a War cassette (I got 2)

- The so-called hockey puck case damaged CDs instead of protecting them, and looked ridiculous

- The artwork had to be downloaded and printed at home (I didn't have a high-quality printer)

- It took a year to come out from when pre-orders started

- It was promised as a direct sale exclusive but was in stores before shipping, and at a cheaper price

- The 3 CDs of CB material could easily fit on 2 CDs

- For an "official bootleg" the song selection was lacking to those that collect bootlegs

- It was not simple, not flawless and not the first of it's kind

Other than all that it was great. I love the collection and The Truth is essential listening for any fan.

In my not-so-humble opinion, of course... wink


lol lol lol

[Edited 1/30/16 10:18am]

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Reply #77 posted 01/30/16 10:26am

warning2all

1-800-New-Funk was beyond incompetent (first-hand experience). I would never order from Prince again. Hell of a musician- a horrible businessman. Ask anyone who ordered the puck, to anyone @ WB today ;)

Noone should wish a return to that method of distribution.
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Reply #78 posted 01/30/16 10:46am

luvsexy4all

how r "fans" making money off this distributiion way? it doesnt make sense..why not just let amazon do it...people will be listing on amazon anyway....

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Reply #79 posted 02/01/16 11:48am

Vannormal

Prince fans are not easy to please. My god ! biggrin

Since this is 2016, why do you people all need to have a CD or vinyl ?

I mean, I have over 3500 CDs, and 2700 LPs, 1700 singles, hundreds of cassettes... I mean,

I've waited all my life to have STREAMING ! biggrin That's what I really need, everywhere i go ! It's the invention EVER for me as a music lover.

I love everything I have, but hell i don't need to take it with me to the next life.

I have no kids, and whom the hell am I all collecting this for ? Honestly.

I loved collecting, still do. But i prefer to get on the next level.
Of course I buy some nice special stuff, like the latest Bowie on vinyl. Great thing to have. But again, that's about it.


I don't need EVERYTHING that's special or looks great anymore.

A booklet with lyrics or nice copies with great art or whatever. Mmmmyeah, it depends.

But ! The internet is a fucking goldmine !

It wasn't there in the 80s. We were depending on radio dj's and music mags to get some info.

Now you can find everything; if you use your head, and know how to search.

It's fucking great. You can even listen for free to tons of bootlegs (download only of course).

Streaming for me is it !

I know the quality isn't always that great, but I'm not a hunter for excellent our outstanding (latest technology) sound


And if Prince doesn't want to distibute his music on CD or vinyl, so be it.

Yes, and me too sometimes feel dissapointed with his decisions and whatever. I have nothing against the man, although he's never going to change no matter what y'all think or want. Sometimes he's an asshole, sometimes he's just plain brilliant.


You like his eighties output ? Well, you got it. Want more ? I hardly can not imagine any other artist with MORE official music, bootlegs and unreleased live stuff available out there.

I still discover stuff amongst his huge pile of released and unreleased music. Live recordings ? My god !! So much to be found ! Close your eyes and imagine your own video to it.

I can even see Prince live in 1980 on the net !

Want better quality of it all ? Remasters ? Keep on hoping, longing. I won't.

But when it's there, and official, I'll be around too, in line. wink

Not satisfied with the thousands of songs of Prince to be found out there ?
Hop on to another prolific artist. At least, if you know one. And I'm not talking about the great ZAPPA. wink


Prince doesn't need to do ANYTHING. If he want's to burn everything that's in his vault, SO BE IT !

I love the idea that he once erased that great 'Wally' song that everyone knows the story about. (If it's true or not, I don't care. I love 'the story'. And I'd like to believe it too.)
That's rock 'n roll (to me), and that's also somehow why we love everything about him, no ?

I hope I will never hear 'Wally', and that the mystery only gets bigger. In my head I can somehow imagine how he screams his lungs out, or just sings in a plain flat cold tune... I loe that Susan Rogers story behind it. smile

I'm just happy to know PRINCE the way he is, with all his crazy decisions and shit, his horrible Jehova choice and shit... Can't do anything about it no matter what, so be it then.

Be glad for what you have and know.


And his output on CD's and vinyl : it's just the music that counts (to me).

I hope that weird little motherfucker with his tremendous high voice never changes. And the way he wants to release things, well it's totaly up to him.

If you like it or not. So keep on 'longing'... fams and fans. biggrin

[Edited 2/1/16 12:35pm]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #80 posted 02/01/16 1:13pm

feeluupp

luvsexy4all said:

how r "fans" making money off this distributiion way? it doesnt make sense..why not just let amazon do it...people will be listing on amazon anyway....

just check eBAY... that's how they are making money off this... lol

the first couple listings of PHASE 2 all sold for over $100 each.

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Reply #81 posted 02/02/16 1:05am

SoulAlive

For me,it's just an old school thing wink I prefer to have a physical copy of an album.That's the only way I feel like I truly "have" an album,if that makes sense...lol...streaming and downloading music from the Internet takes away the fun of collecting.I remember the great feeling I had when I could go to a record store and purchase several CDs or vinyl records,and walk out of the store with a handful of new records in my hands.Plus,I feel like vinyl and CDs is the way that music was intended to be heard...on a stereo.Nowadays,kids listen to music on their iphones and computers but many of us "old school folks" prefer to listen to music the old fashioned way.

Vannormal said:

Prince fans are not easy to please. My god ! biggrin

Since this is 2016, why do you people all need to have a CD or vinyl ?

I mean, I have over 3500 CDs, and 2700 LPs, 1700 singles, hundreds of cassettes... I mean,

I've waited all my life to have STREAMING ! biggrin That's what I really need, everywhere i go ! It's the invention EVER for me as a music lover.

I love everything I have, but hell i don't need to take it with me to the next life.

I have no kids, and whom the hell am I all collecting this for ? Honestly.

I loved collecting, still do. But i prefer to get on the next level.
Of course I buy some nice special stuff, like the latest Bowie on vinyl. Great thing to have. But again, that's about it.

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Reply #82 posted 02/02/16 2:52am

Vannormal

I'm as old school as can be. I'm 50 years old. wink And yes i know the feeling of buying things, and having it. But it is a never ending story of 'longing'. And I'm happy to have a clear mind so i can remember nearly everything by name and title to search for watever and listen to it where i want to : with good quality speakers in my car, at home and through my iPhone in my headphone. smile

My iCloud is also filled with good live music and unreleased things from Prince. And IF i want my physical CD or LP in my hands, I can get it out of my collection too. smile

Peace.

SoulAlive said:

For me,it's just an old school thing wink I prefer to have a physical copy of an album.That's the only way I feel like I truly "have" an album,if that makes sense...lol...streaming and downloading music from the Internet takes away the fun of collecting.I remember the great feeling I had when I could go to a record store and purchase several CDs or vinyl records,and walk out of the store with a handful of new records in my hands.Plus,I feel like vinyl and CDs is the way that music was intended to be heard...on a stereo.Nowadays,kids listen to music on their iphones and computers but many of us "old school folks" prefer to listen to music the old fashioned way.

Vannormal said:

Prince fans are not easy to please. My god ! biggrin

Since this is 2016, why do you people all need to have a CD or vinyl ?

I mean, I have over 3500 CDs, and 2700 LPs, 1700 singles, hundreds of cassettes... I mean,

I've waited all my life to have STREAMING ! biggrin That's what I really need, everywhere i go ! It's the invention EVER for me as a music lover.

I love everything I have, but hell i don't need to take it with me to the next life.

I have no kids, and whom the hell am I all collecting this for ? Honestly.

I loved collecting, still do. But i prefer to get on the next level.
Of course I buy some nice special stuff, like the latest Bowie on vinyl. Great thing to have. But again, that's about it.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #83 posted 02/03/16 11:59am

darkroman

BartVanHemelen said:

darkroman said:

I do think this CD 'fiasco' is something of a myth. the CD campaign was awesome and flawless from my side of things.

lol lol lol lol

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Oh look, the old "it didn't happen to me so it didn't happen at all" bullshit defense from the famz. The CB fiasco is well-known and well documented.

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Sadly, the only evidence that is well documented is the hardship you suffered while purchasing a CD. If you had so much trouble then perhaps you should have asked an adult to help you use a computer and perhaps even borrow their credit card.

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Personally I had a great experience. The excitement of the pre-order was great! The 5 CDs are amazing - full of unreleased tracks. The free t-shirt was a nice surprise. Even the on-going free tapes and CD from Prince showed genuine engagement and gratitute to the fans!

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After 18 years, if you still don't like this awesome and unique collection, you could either use them as coasters or perhaps seek counceling. You could even listen to an artist or band you actually do like and stop listening to an artist you clearly don't - surely that would be common sense!

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The choice is yours lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

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Reply #84 posted 02/03/16 12:39pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #85 posted 02/03/16 12:48pm

blacknote

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darkroman said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh look, the old "it didn't happen to me so it didn't happen at all" bullshit defense from the famz. The CB fiasco is well-known and well documented.

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Sadly, the only evidence that is well documented is the hardship you suffered while purchasing a CD. If you had so much trouble then perhaps you should have asked an adult to help you use a computer and perhaps even borrow their credit card.

Bart’s ordeal with Prince’s Crystal Ball was not the only well documented hardship.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1...stal-ball/

I guess Bart wasn’t the only dumbass that wasn't technologically proficient at the time also?

[Edited 2/3/16 12:50pm]

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Reply #86 posted 02/03/16 1:43pm

Doalwa

Well, just bought my presumably bootlegged copy off of EBay...Prince and his business antics be damned.

Really want to support the guy, but he's really not making it easy these days.

And fuck streaming, I wanna own my music, at least.
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Reply #87 posted 02/03/16 4:09pm

luvsexy4all

it has hit amazon....same prices as ebay....

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Reply #88 posted 02/08/16 4:11am

BartVanHemelen

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darkroman said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh look, the old "it didn't happen to me so it didn't happen at all" bullshit defense from the famz. The CB fiasco is well-known and well documented.

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Sadly, the only evidence that is well documented is the hardship you suffered while purchasing a CD. If you had so much trouble then perhaps you should have asked an adult to help you use a computer and perhaps even borrow their credit card.

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I'm a programmer, was one back then too. FYI there wasn't an online order site until MONTHS into the process, and it wasn't SSL protected at the time, that only happened days after I and others pointed this out. But don't let those facts get in the way of your baseless opin ions.

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The 5 CDs are amazing - full of unreleased tracks.

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They weren't full, and plenty of tracks were already released. The track list was so shit that it was labeled as a fake one back when it leaked.

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Reply #89 posted 02/08/16 4:20am

Empress

SoulAlive said:



ludwig said:



A lot of people are still buying CDs and even vinyl, like myself. wink




Exactly.Many of us aren't really into streaming or listening to music on a computer or iPhone.I buy CDs and vinyl and I play it on my stereo and turntable...the way music was meant to be played.


----- Yes, the way it was meant to be played. We do the same and I hope I never have to give up vinyl and cd's. If music is not available in either format, I usually don't give a crap about it.
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