independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince Guitar Work on The Time Albums
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 12/01/15 2:59pm

feeluupp

Prince Guitar Work on The Time Albums

Listening to the first 2 Time albums and I just realized Prince played the electric guitar much better on those albums than his early albums...

The ending of Get It Up, 777 9311 are just amazing guitar solos, much better than anything from For You- 1999 in my opinion...

Does anyone else feel he played the electric guitar "better" on the Time albums than he did his first 4 albums?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 12/01/15 3:27pm

controversy99

avatar

Yep, I agree. And it seems odd to me that he would do it that way.
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 12/01/15 3:57pm

EroticDreamer

hmmm

I've never considered this and will check it out.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 12/01/15 5:06pm

thebanishedone

avatar

Prince played great guitar solos on The Time Albums but he also had great solos on his albums also.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 12/01/15 5:07pm

funksterr

biggrin

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 12/01/15 5:14pm

feeluupp

thebanishedone said:

Prince played great guitar solos on The Time Albums but he also had great solos on his albums also.

Yes I agree, and I'm not saying he didn't have great solos on his albums... But when you listen to the guitar work Prince did on those first two Time albums... The energy, the sophisitcation of those solos especially the ending of 7779311... Surpasses technically IMO any guitar work he's done on the albums from For You - 1999 with the exception of the ending of Lady Cab Driver... IMO of course...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 12/01/15 7:04pm

thebanishedone

avatar

DP you think his solos on Get IT Up and 777 9311 are better compared to Automatic,Ronnie Talk To Russia,Jack U Off,Why U Wanna Treat Me so Bad? I would says solos are longer,not better.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 12/01/15 7:06pm

feeluupp

thebanishedone said:

DP you think his solos on Get IT Up and 777 9311 are better compared to Automatic,Ronnie Talk To Russia,Jack U Off,Why U Wanna Treat Me so Bad? I would says solos are longer,not better.

Personally I think the guitar solo on 777 9311 has more energy than any of his guitar solos on For You, Prince, Dirty Mind and Controversy.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 12/01/15 7:07pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

thebanishedone said:

DP you think his solos on Get IT Up and 777 9311 are better compared to Automatic,Ronnie Talk To Russia,Jack U Off,Why U Wanna Treat Me so Bad? I would says solos are longer,not better.

I think the 777-9311 is not long enough. That is some lustful communication going on there

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 12/01/15 7:08pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

The little guitar screech on Sexuality "Mama R U listening?" rrrrrreeaarrrrrr

is better than the Get It Up solo. It's wicked, and not enough

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 12/01/15 7:23pm

Ego101

P

[Edited 12/7/15 14:31pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 12/01/15 7:30pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

solos 2 hear: Drive Me Wild (extended) Let's Work (extended with Morris on drums) Sexy Dancer (extended) My Stick (the Time) and I love the guitar work on Make Up(Vanity 6)

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 12/02/15 4:57am

paulludvig

funksterr said:

biggrin

?

The wooh is on the one!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 12/02/15 6:57am

BEAUGARDE

I recognized that back in the day. It seems like on his their records the guitar is on top & a little more in ur face & on his records it's kinda in the background. Maybe he did to kinda give them a different sound (kinda sorta). LADY CAB DRIVER!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 12/02/15 8:51am

Militant

avatar

moderator

I think it depends on your style preference.

On "777" Prince was deliberately mimicking Jesse Johnson's guitar style.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 12/02/15 9:16am

LovesexyIsThe1

avatar

777-9311 is one of his best guitar solos, laid down in the studio and put on record, imo.
I'm Yours gets my love as well. The guitar skills were strong at an early age. headbang guitar

Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad and Bambi, are incredible too!

Lovesexy Funkateer
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 12/02/15 9:34am

Ego101

Its Weird when people use words like 'BEST' ..

These songs are only cared about and known by a tiny handful of Purple fanatics..

ask 99.9% of the world if they know or care who played guitar on the Time's early 80s albums...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 12/02/15 9:40am

feeluupp

Ego101 said:

Its Weird when people use words like 'BEST' ..

These songs are only cared about and known by a tiny handful of Purple fanatics..

ask 99.9% of the world if they know or care who played guitar on the Time's early 80s albums...

Same can be said about his "best" songs... Ask the general population if they ever heard of Anna Stesia or Joy in Repetition, or Crucial or Moonbeam Levels...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 12/02/15 10:26am

Ego101

none of the songs that you mentioned would be in my 'Best of Prince' collection..

and nobody gives a damn! biggrin

feeluupp said:

Ego101 said:

Its Weird when people use words like 'BEST' ..

These songs are only cared about and known by a tiny handful of Purple fanatics..

ask 99.9% of the world if they know or care who played guitar on the Time's early 80s albums...

Same can be said about his "best" songs... Ask the general population if they ever heard of Anna Stesia or Joy in Repetition, or Crucial or Moonbeam Levels...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 12/02/15 10:41am

feeluupp

Ego101 said:

none of the songs that you mentioned would be in my 'Best of Prince' collection..

and nobody gives a damn! biggrin

feeluupp said:

Same can be said about his "best" songs... Ask the general population if they ever heard of Anna Stesia or Joy in Repetition, or Crucial or Moonbeam Levels...

Yes.. Since those are such bad quality Prince songs... lol

Planet Earth puts those songs to shame... lol lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 12/02/15 10:45am

Ego101

I never said all that! biggrin

Those songs you mentioned are cool... Great even... compared to crap like Planet Earth,AOR and whatever the last Josh produced crap was called! smile

I'm into Prince's early stuff... ALL OF IT! but i LOVE the Funk!

Head.. Sexy Dancer.. Let's Work.. Data Bank... DMSR.. Lady Cab Driver.. The end of 'I feel for you' .. ect..

feeluupp said:

Ego101 said:

none of the songs that you mentioned would be in my 'Best of Prince' collection..

and nobody gives a damn! biggrin

Yes.. Since those are such bad quality Prince songs... lol

Planet Earth puts those songs to shame... lol lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 12/04/15 7:09am

steakfinger

Militant said:

I think it depends on your style preference.

On "777" Prince was deliberately mimicking Jesse Johnson's guitar style.

Jesse Johnson's "style" was that of a generic 80s dude without the shredder technique. It seems clear to me that Prince was having fun goofing around with techniques he would never do on his own records, (tapping, for example - which he's not doing super-well on the Time record). I would say Jesse STILL doesn't have a style in terms of lead playing. If you sat Jesse behind a curtain with any number of modern dudes playing in modern R&B kind of shit you'd be hard-pressed to identify him. What is a defining part of his style? There isn't one. He might be able to write and produce some songs, but as a lead guitarist he's always been pretty unremarkable.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 12/04/15 8:07am

thebanishedone

avatar

Are you sure about tapping? Prince didn't play tapping until Lotus Flower album Jesse is not generic 80s guy.Jesse is better than Prince in terms of flash but Jesse is rooted in pentatonic while Prince compose better guitar solos and he use modes
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 12/06/15 6:19am

steakfinger

thebanishedone said:

Are you sure about tapping? Prince didn't play tapping until Lotus Flower album Jesse is not generic 80s guy.Jesse is better than Prince in terms of flash but Jesse is rooted in pentatonic while Prince compose better guitar solos and he use modes


There's definitely tapping on 777-9311. On other songs I recall some EVH-style stuff of the non-tapping variety, too.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 12/06/15 9:03am

KCOOLMUZIQ

During that period a lot of RNB artist didn't use a lot of lead guitar in their muziq. It wasn't needed.

prince felt ore safe using it on his protege projects. He knew what he was doing. But LIVE he didn't hold back.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 12/06/15 6:16pm

Mindbells9

avatar

Who played the solo on "Jungle Love"? I've always thought it was Jesse, it sounds like his syle of playing. But someone recently told me that it was actually Prince playing it. Can anyone shine any light on this?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 12/06/15 7:11pm

kidmelody2012

so Jesse better than Prince? eek

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 12/06/15 7:36pm

joyinrepetitio
n

avatar

Mindbells9 said:

Who played the solo on "Jungle Love"? I've always thought it was Jesse, it sounds like his syle of playing. But someone recently told me that it was actually Prince playing it. Can anyone shine any light on this?


That's Jesse on Jungle Love as it was recorded live. Studio might be a different story though.
__________________________________________________
2 words falling between the drops and the moans of his condition
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 12/06/15 11:15pm

Mintchip

avatar

Ego101 said:

Its Weird when people use words like 'BEST' ..

These songs are only cared about and known by a tiny handful of Purple fanatics..

ask 99.9% of the world if they know or care who played guitar on the Time's early 80s albums...

it's prince.org. this is where you go to ask about obscure prince songs. nothing weird about it.

[Edited 12/6/15 23:16pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 12/07/15 2:53am

Adorecream

I agree the soloing on those albums is jaw dropping and I suspect it was aimed at Jesse, Prince felt challenged when Morris was like "Look at this cat, he can play, look at these Marshall amps and stacks of whammy bar" and Prince was like - well I will show you.

.

Of all the solos, I love the Get it up one most, but kind of like the solo on The Stick, 777 9311 and melodic guitar in I don't want to leave you. Prince was a big bad axe man.

.

Has anyone mentioned the synth solos though, is it Fink like most people think or is it Prince playing those too, like I suspect. Especially as most books say that first and even second album was Prince doing everything and Morris singing vocals over Prince's guide vocals. Plus the bit in DMSR by Per Nilsen, where Prince comes in, throws a tape at Jesse in 1982 and says "Here's the next album, Jesse you play really well here" and smirks.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince Guitar Work on The Time Albums