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Thread started 09/03/15 6:16pm

AndrePatrone

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Lovesexy and the Black Album should've been a double LP

in the begnning of eye no, prince says: "..eye know what spooky electric say.. it's not ok...love is the only way.."




it's a declaration of religious epiphany following his dark night of the soul.

what if prince read too deep into his own work and tried to hide it from himself (...only to confess it during the alphabet street video.)

following the critical acclaim of SOTT -- had listeners traveled the entire journey of "dark prince" into prince reborn (which was essentially the live show..)

do you think it would've "hit"?

LP 1: Prince Goes to Hell

Side 1

"Le Grind" – 6:44

"Cindy C." – 6:15

"Dead on It" – 4:37

Side 2

"Bob George" – 5:36

"Superfunkycalifragisexy" – 5:55

"2 Nigs United 4 West Compton" – 7:01

"Rockhard in a Funky Place" – 4:31

LP 2: Prince Goes to Heaven

Side 1

"Eye No" 5:47

"Alphabet St." 5:38

"Glam Slam" 5:04

"Anna Stesia" 4:56

Side 2

"Dance On" 3:44

"Lovesexy" 5:48

"When 2 R in Love" 4:01

"I Wish U Heaven" 2:43

"Positivity" 7:15

[Edited 9/3/15 20:59pm]

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Reply #1 posted 09/03/15 6:21pm

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I'm especially curious to hear from orgers who were older than 3 at the time. as i was not.

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Reply #2 posted 09/03/15 8:00pm

SoulAlive

It's an intriguing idea,but I doubt that Warners would have allowed him to release another double album so soon after the 'Sign O' The Times' double album.

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Reply #3 posted 09/03/15 8:04pm

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No.

The Black Album SHOULD'VE been released before Lovesexy. Simple as that. wink

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Reply #4 posted 09/03/15 8:55pm

AndrePatrone

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SoulAlive said:

It's an intriguing idea,but I doubt that Warners would have allowed him to release another double album so soon after the 'Sign O' The Times' double album.

yeah but was the record buying/listening public ready in 1988? warners may not have been interested in the risk, but lovesexy always made more sense to me while considering the black album's complimentary nature.

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Reply #5 posted 09/03/15 8:57pm

AndrePatrone

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callimnate said:

No.

The Black Album SHOULD'VE been released before Lovesexy. Simple as that. wink

so

86 - parade

87 - The Black Album

87 - SOTT

88 - Lovesexy ?

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Reply #6 posted 09/03/15 9:39pm

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It would have been cool, if they were a double album! After Purple Rain, I, as I imagine many others, simply had to have everything that Prince did.

I think I found out about the album, after reading about it in a magazine...probably Rolling Stone.

You best believe...I checked every damn record store from here to shinola to find it. I found a casette tape of it with photocopied writing on the front that said, 'The Black Album". I bought it and opened it up and it's just a plain Magnavox or whatever tape. The shit cost me a bundle...30 bucks at the time. I listened to it at home on my boom box. It was copied to tape at low volume. So, I had to turn my boom box all the way up to 10 to listen to it. I was in heaven and gipped out of my money at the same time.

I was more in love with the Black Album than Lovesexy at the time, as I imagine were most hardcore Prince fans.

Thank the Creator that he and Warners released it 7 damn years later!

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Reply #7 posted 09/03/15 10:23pm

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AndrePatrone said:

callimnate said:

No.

The Black Album SHOULD'VE been released before Lovesexy. Simple as that. wink

so

86 - parade

87 - The Black Album

87 - SOTT

88 - Lovesexy ?

Nah...

Had the Black album come out as it was s'posed to after SOTT, it would've had that dark wooooooo feel about it (as it was intended).

Then... BAM! P sees the light, and releases Lovesexy. cool

Would've been a marketing/advertising/publicist dream. wink

Sure, it's how WE saw it, but everyone else missed this magical moment and mood change in P's career.

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Reply #8 posted 09/03/15 10:34pm

SoulAlive

I think Prince made the right decision by not releasing The Black Album.By cancelling it's December 1987 release,the album instantly became a mysterious collector's item.I think it works better as a controversial 'bootleg' that you had to track down.That was all very exciting! I remember obtaining a bootleg copy on cassette,only days before Lovesexy was released.I thought I had died and gone to heaven,lol.

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Reply #9 posted 09/03/15 10:48pm

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SoulAlive said:

I think Prince made the right decision by not releasing The Black Album.By cancelling it's December 1987 release,the album instantly became a mysterious collector's item.I think it works better as a controversial 'bootleg' that you had to track down.That was all very exciting! I remember obtaining a bootleg copy on cassette,only days before Lovesexy was released.I thought I had died and gone to heaven,lol.

the best time to be a Prince fan for sure!

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Reply #10 posted 09/03/15 10:50pm

SoulAlive

ufoclub said:

SoulAlive said:

I think Prince made the right decision by not releasing The Black Album.By cancelling it's December 1987 release,the album instantly became a mysterious collector's item.I think it works better as a controversial 'bootleg' that you had to track down.That was all very exciting! I remember obtaining a bootleg copy on cassette,only days before Lovesexy was released.I thought I had died and gone to heaven,lol.

the best time to be a Prince fan for sure!

indeed! nod

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Reply #11 posted 09/04/15 6:44am

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I found a bootleg vinyl copy in Camden market (London) for £30(!)
I grinned all the way home.
Exciting times!
I wouldn't change it.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #12 posted 09/04/15 7:16am

darkroman

callimnate said:

No.

The Black Album SHOULD'VE been released before Lovesexy. Simple as that. wink

I suppose you could say it was as we were all listening to it during the gap between SOTT and Lovesexy.

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Reply #13 posted 09/04/15 9:35am

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Lovesexy and The Black Album..

Two wonderful albums imho... I love them both.

I don't like the idea of a double album, they are brilliant both but still very different,

The Black Album have much more in common with the funky edgy Sign O The Times album, imo smile

Lovesexy actually sounds nothing like any of the 80-Prince albums....

I love both albums deeply, Prince in his funky prime.. 1987-1988, wow. music

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Reply #14 posted 09/04/15 2:44pm

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i would love that Anna Stesia and The Future were in the Sign O' The Times album

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Reply #15 posted 09/04/15 10:07pm

AndrePatrone

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ufoclub said:

SoulAlive said:

I think Prince made the right decision by not releasing The Black Album.By cancelling it's December 1987 release,the album instantly became a mysterious collector's item.I think it works better as a controversial 'bootleg' that you had to track down.That was all very exciting! I remember obtaining a bootleg copy on cassette,only days before Lovesexy was released.I thought I had died and gone to heaven,lol.

the best time to be a Prince fan for sure!

i can imagine how much fun that was

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Reply #16 posted 09/04/15 10:08pm

AndrePatrone

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thedance said:

Lovesexy and The Black Album..

Two wonderful albums imho... I love them both.

I don't like the idea of a double album, they are brilliant both but still very different,

The Black Album have much more in common with the funky edgy Sign O The Times album, imo smile

Lovesexy actually sounds nothing like any of the 80-Prince albums....

I love both albums deeply, Prince in his funky prime.. 1987-1988, wow. music

thats cuz there was no "smack" in his brain.

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Reply #17 posted 09/05/15 12:30am

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SoulAlive said:

I think Prince made the right decision by not releasing The Black Album.By cancelling it's December 1987 release,the album instantly became a mysterious collector's item.I think it works better as a controversial 'bootleg' that you had to track down.That was all very exciting! I remember obtaining a bootleg copy on cassette,only days before Lovesexy was released.I thought I had died and gone to heaven,lol.


Yes, same here, although I didn't get the Black Album until after Lovesexy. But holding that album back surely added to the hype that surrounded Prince at the time.
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Reply #18 posted 09/07/15 6:55am

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AndrePatrone said:

callimnate said:

No.

The Black Album SHOULD'VE been released before Lovesexy. Simple as that. wink

so

86 - parade

87 - The Black Album

87 - SOTT

88 - Lovesexy ?

i remember it being a very sad day .i was ready to go buy a new album,got to tower records to find release was cancelled.

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Reply #19 posted 09/07/15 10:49am

AndrePatrone

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lrcrouse said:



AndrePatrone said:




callimnate said:


No.


The Black Album SHOULD'VE been released before Lovesexy. Simple as that. wink





so



86 - parade


87 - The Black Album


87 - SOTT


88 - Lovesexy ?



i remember it being a very sad day .i was ready to go buy a new album,got to tower records to find release was cancelled.



Did you have to wait for the release or did you find a dub?
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Reply #20 posted 09/07/15 10:50am

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NinaB said:

I found a bootleg vinyl copy in Camden market (London) for £30(!)
I grinned all the way home.
Exciting times!
I wouldn't change it.


What was the first listen like
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Reply #21 posted 09/07/15 12:29pm

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U kno what? i can't actually remember that! What really sticks with me was holding it close 2 my chest all the way home on a packed tube, grinning. Beaming.

I couldn't believe my luck! It hadn't been out that long & suddenly I accidentally stumbled across it.
I was basically a kid, earning £50 a wk in a college/apprentice situation, yet 2 make any mpls/music collector friends.
Reading about it in the mags, i thought i'd never get 2 hear it.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #22 posted 09/07/15 12:40pm

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...yet I vividly remember the first time I laid the needle down on SOTT eek excited love
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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #23 posted 09/07/15 12:56pm

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Not a completely bad idea for a double LP release: Prince's dark side and not so dark side. But I think the best time for tat was the Batman album with the good/evil duality that Prince eluded to with the Batman and Joker concept.

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Reply #24 posted 09/07/15 1:20pm

AndrePatrone

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NinaB said:

U kno what? i can't actually remember that! What really sticks with me was holding it close 2 my chest all the way home on a packed tube, grinning. Beaming.

I couldn't believe my luck! It hadn't been out that long & suddenly I accidentally stumbled across it.
I was basically a kid, earning £50 a wk in a college/apprentice situation, yet 2 make any mpls/music collector friends.
Reading about it in the mags, i thought i'd never get 2 hear it.


Was it as shocking as Prince "declared" it would be? I always wondered if it would've sounded more racey had I heard it in 87/88.

Same with dirty mind. Sister is a motherfucker but I cant imagine what it sounded like in the conservative early 80s
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Reply #25 posted 09/07/15 1:21pm

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FUNKYNESS said:

Not a completely bad idea for a double LP release: Prince's dark side and not so dark side. But I think the best time for tat was the Batman album with the good/evil duality that Prince eluded to with the Batman and Joker concept.



Yeah that was cool look
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Reply #26 posted 09/07/15 4:09pm

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AndrePatrone said:

NinaB said:

U kno what? i can't actually remember that! What really sticks with me was holding it close 2 my chest all the way home on a packed tube, grinning. Beaming.

I couldn't believe my luck! It hadn't been out that long & suddenly I accidentally stumbled across it.
I was basically a kid, earning £50 a wk in a college/apprentice situation, yet 2 make any mpls/music collector friends.
Reading about it in the mags, i thought i'd never get 2 hear it.


Was it as shocking as Prince "declared" it would be? I always wondered if it would've sounded more racey had I heard it in 87/88.

Same with dirty mind. Sister is a motherfucker but I cant imagine what it sounded like in the conservative early 80s


It wasn't shocking to me, but then again I was well acquainted with Sister/Irresistible Bitch etc (& in some ways those years did have a code of conduct/community/checks & balances culture but at the same time life/culture was more rough/blatant/real than nowdays in a lot of ways imo)
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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