Judith Hill's voice just hurts my ears. I mean literally this is not a metaphor. I have fragile ears because I kinda fucked them up by listening and playing music too loud when I was younger, I have tinnitus and certain frequencies (such as cars horns) hurt a bit when too loud. But usually listening to music loud is still fine. Except there are some weird, high frequencies in Judith Hill's voice that just hurt my ears, and because of that I can't really enjoy the album because I can't play it LOUD

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Cool story, dude.

you're not affraid that your tinitus might get worse, since you're still listening to loud music?

IstenSzek said:

you're not affraid that your tinitus might get worse, since you're still listening to loud music?

No. I know exactly my limit, the second it's too loud it hurts, and my tinnitus has been stable for nearly 8 years since it began.

+ anyway without loud music I get depressed and depression is worse than tinnitus.

Genesia said:

Cool story, dude.

Same problem here. I have not "Back in Time", but with other albums I can try to do not use MP3, but cd and good stereo instead. MP3 could be a problem with low compression rate.

fabriziovenerandi said:

Same problem here. I have not "Back in Time", but with other albums I can try to do not use MP3, but cd and good stereo instead. MP3 could be a problem with low compression rate.

I've noticed also that poor mp3 compression or poor sound, such as certain audience recording boots, have high frequencies that hurt. Same with some low quality speakers whatever the music. IDK why but strangely enough the better the sound quality the more my ears will tolerate loud volume.

I "destroyed" my ears with "Rave un2 the joy fantastic" in earphone. After that day, tinnitus and hyperacusis walks with me. I think there is a physical and 'brain' problem. Sometimes a sound hurts me, sometimes a "normal life" situation stress me and my ears try to defend me: every sound become a enemy and I suffer pain for all. For example, if I buy a new cd usually the first time I listen it my brain thinks this is a attack. I have to "learn" how to listen it, before I can really listen it.

funkomatic said:

I recommend you to listen to Black Sweat as loud as you can with ear phones on in order to make your problem go away forever!😉 Especially dangerous are the low frequencies, because you aren't exactly in pain when the damage is already done. [Edited 9/1/15 8:47am]

That one's a bitch, too, I have to turn the volume down everytime it starts

I didn't know low frequencies were dangerous, too, but it makes sense :/

fabriziovenerandi said:

I "destroyed" my ears with "Rave un2 the joy fantastic" in earphone. After that day, tinnitus and hyperacusis walks with me. I think there is a physical and 'brain' problem. Sometimes a sound hurts me, sometimes a "normal life" situation stress me and my ears try to defend me: every sound become a enemy and I suffer pain for all. For example, if I buy a new cd usually the first time I listen it my brain thinks this is a attack. I have to "learn" how to listen it, before I can really listen it.

fabriziovenerandi said:

I "destroyed" my ears with "Rave un2 the joy fantastic" in earphone. After that day, tinnitus and hyperacusis walks with me. I think there is a physical and 'brain' problem. Sometimes a sound hurts me, sometimes a "normal life" situation stress me and my ears try to defend me: every sound become a enemy and I suffer pain for all. For example, if I buy a new cd usually the first time I listen it my brain thinks this is a attack. I have to "learn" how to listen it, before I can really listen it.

I don't understand ur website entirely because it's Italian, but it's cool. Where are the poesie digitale and poesie sonore? I wanted to check that but nothing when I click

databank said:

Ok... for those interested:

Any "loud" sound you listen very regularly for an extended period is bad for your hearing and can cause tinnitus. High, low or medium.

The length and regularity of this exposure as well as the loudness will determine how severe your loss is.

7 hours a day of listening to something at 85 Db (in a plant for instance) will damage your hearing over time.

From there, it grows exponentially. Here is how long you can safely listen to an iPod if you put a certain percentage of the volume..

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Hearing loss caused by noise first affects the highest frequencies. That's because in the shell-like cochlea, which is a spiral, the highest sounds are at the beginning of the spiral, so the cells there are first to go. The lowest frequencies are heard at the end of the spiral.

Tinnitus is (generally) a bit like phantom pain felt by amputees for a limb that is no longer there. Your brain gives you phantom noise because you no longer hear normally. It can also be a sign of oto-toxicity. Some meds, drugs and alcohol can be poison for your inner ear over years.

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Thank you. I'm still building the site, but you can find links to poetry here: http://www.venerandi.com/...host.xhtml

Aerogram said:

Ok... for those interested:

Any "loud" sound you listen very regularly for an extended period is bad for your hearing and can cause tinnitus. High, low or medium.

The length and regularity of this exposure as well as the loudness will determine how severe your loss is.

7 hours a day of listening to something at 85 Db (in a plant for instance) will damage your hearing over time.

From there, it grows exponentially. Here is how long you can safely listen to an iPod if you put a certain percentage of the volume..

.

Hearing loss caused by noise first affects the highest frequencies. That's because in the shell-like cochlea, which is a spiral, the highest sounds are at the beginning of the spiral, so the cells there are first to go. The lowest frequencies are heard at the end of the spiral.

Tinnitus is (generally) a bit like phantom pain felt by amputees for a limb that is no longer there. Your brain gives you phantom noise because you no longer hear normally. It can also be a sign of oto-toxicity. Some meds, drugs and alcohol can be poison for your inner ear over years.

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Thx for the piece of info.

In fact as far as ENT's can tell I suffer from zero hearing loss. Tinnitus isn't necessarily related to hearing loss.

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fabriziovenerandi said:

Thank you. I'm still building the site, but you can find links to poetry here: http://www.venerandi.com/...host.xhtml

Some of that stuff is pretty amazing. Even if I don't know the words I'm pretty amazed at the interactive, conceptual and playful aspects

jazzz said:

Another tinnitus and hyperacusis sufferer here... Too much loud music (playing and listening) caused it, 20 years ago, and I have the impressions it gets worse slowly... So, I quit going to Prince concerts in 2002. Right now, I'm a teacher of acoustics at a conservatory, and I warn the students to be very careful with their ears! To reply to the topic: I also have trouble to listen to some cds, especially those with a modern production which emphasizes the mid/high frequencies. For example Sheila E's latest cd and the one by Liv Warfield [Edited 9/2/15 11:51am] [Edited 9/2/15 11:52am]

Hyperacusis sounds horrible. i've been spared so far.

I also don't go to concerts or clubs anymore, I had to wear earplugs at the last P show I attended and it pretty much spoiled it 4 me.

Maybe also Liv and Judith are shouting a little too much instead of singing? Not Sheila, though.

Hi databank,

Thanks for your reply!

Hyperacusis is no fun, but on the other hand, there are worse things (-:

And, in general, when people get older, they cannot appreciate that "loud noise" of pop music anymore. That's why I listen to intimate jazz and baroque music more and more. Besides comfortable for tjhe ears, it's very beautiful and learnful music too!

Regarding the Sheila E cd, it's not always the voice that is unpleasant for my ears, but also sometimes the aggresive production style... like punchy hi-hats, peircing synths or horn-stabs.

Some time ago, I did an interesting experiment. With a online sine-tone generator, I did a sweep to determine the frequency of my tinnitus tone. Curiously, when I pitched the sine-tone very close to the frequency of the tinnitus (somewhere around 10kHz), my ears started to hurt really bad, like a pinch of a needle. And the volume of the sine-tone was not really loud at all...Maybe that explains the sensitivity of your ears for certain frequencies in Judith Hill's music/voice??

Keep your ears healthy!

True hypoacusis is rare, 1 case for every 50 000 people. Tinnitus is far more common as a symptom of hearing loss, While it seems counterintuitive, people who are hard of hearing can have some form of hypoacusis (wearing no hearing aids).

I've had tinnitus from childhood, it's part of a hearing condition I have. I thoujght everyone heard to pitched sound I hear all the time, so it only bothers me if I think about it.

Like right now. Thanks a lot

My tinnitus was hell for the first 6 to 8 months or so, I couldn't hear anything but it when there wasn't much noise around. Then slowly I learned to ignore it, as ENT's predicted. Now I hardly ever hear it anymore unless, like you, I think about it.

But I will never hear silence again. Ever.

Mine was hell for one/two year. More the hyperacusis than tinnitus, but they was related. I try insufflation and white-noise rumor generator. The first (insufflation) maybe help me in the first weeks, the white-noise rumor generator not. Actually I live fine, but sometimes my ears try to protect me against sounds and begin the hell. I fear earphone, and go to live concert rarely, and only in small places. I see One Nite Alone tour, and was the last Prince live I see because the volume was too high for me. I listen the second half of the concert with my finger pressing the ear. And the day after I suffer hyperacusis a lot. Some years ago instead I see Sananda Maitreya in a little club and I have no problem at all.

databank said:

Aerogram said:

jazzz said:

controversy99 said:

jazzz said:

Why is there an angry emoticon attached to this topic in the listing page?? Someone annoyed by such "unpleasant" subject?

That's chosen by the OP, not a responder. I'm thinking she/he is angry at the album.

Thanks, that clear now!