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Reply #30 posted 09/01/15 12:59pm

Polo1026

dandan said:

Prince could release the next Sign O The Times and I don't think it would garner him actual success. It would take a killer hit single in my opinion, but I just can't image what sort of song it would require. A collab with a genuinely talented, hot producer is probably the sort of thing that would need to happen. I don't necessarily care about him being in the charts again and I assume neither does he. Making quality music for his fans should be his main focus these days instead of chasing any trends and chart success. Is it as simple as 'if the music is good enough, naturally it will be successful'? I don't think it is.

Why do Prince fans continue to yearn for this commerical success stuff? Prince doesn't need a GREAT record or a HIT song to be successful! Prince really doesn't need this ever again.

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Reply #31 posted 09/01/15 2:18pm

FUNKYNESS

I was there when real fans had to call their local radio stations to get them to play a Prince record because most didn't know who he was. I was there for the meteoric rise through MTV and 1999 album. I saw the Purple Rain bandwagon fill up with all the white teenage girls from the Duran Duran fan clubs who would abandoned him within the following 5 years. I was there in the 90s when it was trendy to write Prince off despite some of the best work of his career simply because he was not on MTV, the radio, the charts, or the WB anymore. I was down front for Crystal Ball and the NPG music club despite the bitching and complaining. And I love all of the most hated Prince productions: Purple and Gold, Emancipation, Rainbow Children, NewPowerSoul, Come, 20Ten, and so on...

With all that history and devotion to the still staggering, life altering genius of Prince, I actually dont want to see him "back on top" with commercial success. It actually come come to mean the exact opposite of what it once meant when Prince was there. In his commercial heyday, Prince had real peers on an artistic level but there were great artists with enduring talent making real music that has stood the test of time and remains the last relevant era of popular music: Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder, George Michael - even acts like Culture Club, Duran Duran, Van Halen, Rick James. Commercial success today goes to who can be the most outlandish, vulgar, shocking, ignorant, or controversial. For African Americans artists, that means a return to the old disgusting tradition of cooning. If you aren't willing or able to compromise yourself like Kanye West or Nicki Manaj or Beyonce, you most likely will not have a gold record (if they even still have those these days). Prince is not going to do that. He is still making REAL music with REAL instruments and REAL musicians. With only a few exceptions, there is no one doing that to commercial success in pop music.

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Reply #32 posted 09/01/15 2:29pm

MoBettaBliss

yes, it's possible

he just needs to stop trying to sound current, and release a great record

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Reply #33 posted 09/01/15 3:47pm

CharismaDove

Personally, I'm satisfied if Prince's albums go top-10 and he sells out live. He probably is too.

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #34 posted 09/01/15 4:57pm

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If he promotes the album, what does it mean for all you folks that are complaining about no promotion? I ask seriously, and not to puke fun of. To me it just seems a silly thing to concern oneself with, the music remains the same regardless.



Is it validation from peers that you get with promotion? Validation to you personally that it's ok to listen to the music if it is promoted? Is it more money that you hope Prince gets due to the promotion?



I am sincerely curious about the psychology behind this phenomenon.



peace



Uh...because he has a LONG track record of blaming others for his album's failures. I mean, what the fuck else is Warner Brothers, Tidal, and all the other one off record companies supposed to do with their respective albums when the artist refuses to schedule appearances, tours, etc. and proceed to whine in the press about his album flopping hard. If he didn't go on blaming crusades all the time, I'm pretty sure that most of us wouldn't give a rats ass if he promoted his music or not.
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Reply #35 posted 09/01/15 4:58pm

luvsexy4all

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When he dies, his stuff will fly off the shelves. Until then, no...

an exc reason for him to put stuff out himself...at least he can choose where the money goes when its made...not in bootleggers hands

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Reply #36 posted 09/01/15 9:26pm

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PurpleMedley122 said:

leadline said:

If he promotes the album, what does it mean for all you folks that are complaining about no promotion? I ask seriously, and not to puke fun of. To me it just seems a silly thing to concern oneself with, the music remains the same regardless.

Is it validation from peers that you get with promotion? Validation to you personally that it's ok to listen to the music if it is promoted? Is it more money that you hope Prince gets due to the promotion?

I am sincerely curious about the psychology behind this phenomenon.

peace

Uh...because he has a LONG track record of blaming others for his album's failures. I mean, what the fuck else is Warner Brothers, Tidal, and all the other one off record companies supposed to do with their respective albums when the artist refuses to schedule appearances, tours, etc. and proceed to whine in the press about his album flopping hard. If he didn't go on blaming crusades all the time, I'm pretty sure that most of us wouldn't give a rats ass if he promoted his music or not. [Edited 9/1/15 17:00pm] [Edited 9/1/15 17:01pm]

I see, so you want him to treat record companies better, and would also like him to promote his albums so he will stop blaming others and ultimately have nobody to blame but himself when/if horrible sales take place....got it, thank you for the reply.

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Reply #37 posted 09/01/15 10:18pm

scs2000

If you are meaning Is he going to be the thing to hear or talk about in music? I would say no.

I think what he is doing is keeping us interested.

Can he release great music and do something sales wise of Musicology? I would say maybe at best to sales. Yes to music. A whole album??? Hard to say but we have something in the future that has a name and date.

Is he doing singles? Is he doing albums? Does he need to do anything?

He is very successful and few artists have been as successful or have had a career that has lasted as long and still going as we all wait for HITnRUN.

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Reply #38 posted 09/02/15 8:06am

GoldStandard

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Purple Rain remaster + great new album double launch! cool

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Reply #39 posted 09/02/15 9:58am

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MoBettaBliss said:

yes, it's possible

he just needs to stop trying to sound current, and release a great record


interesting, I think I agree he does seem to be trying sound current. Where in the old days it seemed he was into his own thing. He still can put out some interesting stuff. I just listen to the 20TEN ,Chocolate Invasion albums. Didn't care for the whole album but I did like Act Of God, Walk In Sand & Underneath The Cream.
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Reply #40 posted 09/02/15 10:51am

kookooman73

From a purely selfish point of view I hope that P does not achieve mainstream success again. I prefer P as a more 'underground' artist. The music is edgier, the gigs are smaller & the ticket prices are generally more affordable (at least here in the UK). It keeps all of the twats away who attend gigs as P is on their 'bucket list' & who only want to hear Purple Rain & Kiss & who loudly talk crap all through the rest of the performance!!
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Reply #41 posted 09/02/15 10:57am

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Possibly with a reunion tour with the Revolution. wink
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #42 posted 09/02/15 11:04am

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It's not imposible, it might happens

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