So Prince's response when a fan asks him why he needs Josh 2 produce his music...

ISA: "Hi!I was wondering what made U feel u needed a producer after all these years?"

NO NEED...JUST WANT. FUNKNROLL, FEEL ME?

Guess he wants to capture the new audience with a younger producer...

Shit, if his plan is to attract a new audience with a producer, then he couldn't have possibly failed more dramatically, at least as far as the TCBU remix. That song is equal parts laughable and cringe-worthy, and there is no "new audience" that's eager for an early 90's fan mix.

I mean goddamn, whoever put together the 3-CD The Dawn set did a fuck of a lot of a better job.

Prince doesn't need a producer. He needs a carer.

[Edited 8/30/15 12:38pm]

having another opinion can be a great thing for an artist

unfortunately, he needs to keep looking and find someone who'll add something interesting to his music

he doesn't need a producer, he needs some quality control. someone to tell him, no! try again. like when he was at WB. i'm not saying at all that everything since 96 has been shit, but he does release whatever he wants instead of what's good enough and sometimes it ain't.

bigd74 said:

he doesn't need a producer, he needs some quality control. someone to tell him, no! try again. like when he was at WB. i'm not saying at all that everything since 96 has been shit, but he does release whatever he wants instead of what's good enough and sometimes it ain't.

Yep.... that's the A&R job and it's been missing. Some objectivity.

A producer can do that too, but I'm not sure if Josh has that kind of relationship with P where he feels he can tell him if something ain't good enough.

Militant said:

bigd74 said:

he doesn't need a producer, he needs some quality control. someone to tell him, no! try again. like when he was at WB. i'm not saying at all that everything since 96 has been shit, but he does release whatever he wants instead of what's good enough and sometimes it ain't.

exactly/

he needs no-people.

some challenge.

something to wake up the beast again

after the career low of 20ten,

the OK'ness of AOA.

bigd74 said:

he doesn't need a producer, he needs some quality control. someone to tell him, no! try again. like when he was at WB. i'm not saying at all that everything since 96 has been shit, but he does release whatever he wants instead of what's good enough and sometimes it ain't.

He's almost 60 fucking years old why the fuck would he allow anyone to tell him no NOW?? His career has made history, he is not chasing ghosts of success and he's not trying to make you or me feel from his current output what we felt from his past output. He's doing what he wants to do and that's it. Hate it or love it that's your perogative but Prince is not looking for validation through fans or sales or hit songs.

Polo1026 said:

bigd74 said:

he doesn't need a producer, he needs some quality control. someone to tell him, no! try again. like when he was at WB. i'm not saying at all that everything since 96 has been shit, but he does release whatever he wants instead of what's good enough and sometimes it ain't.

He's almost 60 fucking years old why the fuck would he allow anyone to tell him no NOW?? His career has made history, he is not chasing ghosts of success and he's not trying to make you or me feel from his current output what we felt from his past output. He's doing what he wants to do and that's it. Hate it or love it that's your perogative but Prince is not looking for validation through fans or sales or hit songs.

Then do tell, what is he looking for? What's the point of him doing this if he's not looking for anything?

1contessa said:

Polo1026 said:

He's almost 60 fucking years old why the fuck would he allow anyone to tell him no NOW?? His career has made history, he is not chasing ghosts of success and he's not trying to make you or me feel from his current output what we felt from his past output. He's doing what he wants to do and that's it. Hate it or love it that's your perogative but Prince is not looking for validation through fans or sales or hit songs.

Then do tell, what is he looking for? What's the point of him doing this if he's not looking for anything?

The point is he loves music and releases music he likes and if people vibe on it they do and if they don't they don't. He's clearly not living and dying on the success or failure of the product he releases now. This is a 57 year old musician that has always been inspired by the talent around him and he's in a creative space with this group of musicians and he wants people to hear it. It's as simple as that, the dude doesn't get paid big off sales anymore atleast since 2004 and actually probably not since Emancipation. He gets paid extremely well for his concerts as we all know. If his name wasn't Prince he'd be any other musician on the planet. To me his releases aren't for any specific reason or plan. They are just one off creations of a vibe he was feeling and he put together a scheme to release it to the public on his terms. In other words, the dude is just having fun. There is no pressure to make a hit record or have a hit song, he's done that stuff already.

There's many reasons to get a co-producer at this point in his career:

- he needs someone who knows how to use modern gear and softwarem-- not because he couldn't learn it himself, but because to try to stay on top of the latest effects and recording tricks can't be done over decades without losing a tremendous amount of valuable time.

That's why he had Kirky J. taking care of the beats and in that respect, Josh is a quantum leap.

They have done many awesome songs together already, including the glorious AOA version of FUNKNROLL. Hardrocklover points to something even better, as their colaboration matures.

Polo1026 said:

bigd74 said:

I think he needs new studio equipment more than a producer. Something that is intuitive and direct and doesn't require a lot of fiddling around. Something he can play almost like an instrument. He is a musician first. I think he brought in Joshua because he couldn't be bothered to learn the computer based recording technology.

He needs (ghost)writers more than anything.