KingSausage said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

YES! And didn't he go right into ICNTTPOYM? I'm remembering looking at the suspended symbol with the clouds moving behind it, hearing those songs, and thinking it was so surreal. Shit, I'm going to hunt down the boot for that show. I hope there's one out there.

I went to the show with a friend of a friend who videotaped the whole thing. The VHS is somewhere in my parents' basement. I never heard an audio boot of it, but i wish there was one!

I found both video and audio but the video cuts off after Purple Rain. Mayte must have come out at the end? I didn't see her in the vid I have. The sound is suprisingly decent for a handheld cam in the 90s. I forgot how killer his cover of Motherless Child was! Sorry, this thread is getting way derailed. Let me stop.

"Fellas, when U create under God, U ain't got no time to beat your woman!" DA FUCK?!

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Militant said:

MattyJam said:

Aerogram said

That's because NPS was so boringly conventional -- so the few decent tracks were shining. It's underprocessed Prince, so the properly processed tracks stand out.

Rave is an overprocessed album -- but still starts out with one of the most irritating songs of his career. Man, when I bought the Rave DVD, I hated that the menu played the opening chant of that song, I always hit mute before or as soon as I could. Some songs sound ok now but there's just very little that could not have stayed in his vault. TGRES is just too overearnest and sweet, but with lyrics you can't connect to. Undisputed and Hot wit U are too plastic -- So Far So Pleased almost gets there but ends up sounding to calculated, like Prince was really trying too hard to be catchy -- it's the same problem with Baby Knows, though the former is better.

It's almost like on Rave, true musicality only surfaces here and there, asphixiated by Prince's idea of what people want to hear from him.

Always surprised me how Prince could rate that song so much, having composed it as far back as late 80s, and it still made the cut.

Yet it got referenced in a hifi magazine for audiophile headphones just this month, so it can't be that bad.

Naw... Too much discussion on an album simply over produced, not worth it... Better albums to talk about.

Rave was trying waaaay too hard to be a hit album. It was also a victim of its time. Combined with the need for a hit and using production techniques at the time that garnered hits, the album just sinks for me. If the music was more organic and less polished, he might have had something. The only saving graces for me are Strange But True, an awsome synth funk jam, and from In2 Undisputed (moneyapolis mix) and Beautiful Strange.

The year 1999 should've by its very nature had a slammin' Prince album. There was mention of a Roadhouse Garden release in 1999 (which would negate Rave). I think Roadhouse Garden -- with the "reunited" Revolution (at least that's how the public would perceive it) -- would've made a huge impact.

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I still think it would make a decent impact now, and the good news is that he could release it tomorrow if he wanted to.

Rebeljuice said:

Rave was trying waaaay too hard to be a hit album. It was also a victim of its time. Combined with the need for a hit and using production techniques at the time that garnered hits, the album just sinks for me. If the music was more organic and less polished, he might have had something. The only saving graces for me are Strange But True, an awsome synth funk jam, and from In2 Undisputed (moneyapolis mix) and Beautiful Strange.

Rave really touted the "guest stars" on this album, but Gwen Stefani was the only one who was really current at that time. I read somewhere (maybe here on the Org) that Damned If Do was blocked for single release by her record company because they didn't want to confuse buyers.

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Actually, Sheryl Crow was current too, but she is barely audible on the finished Baby Knows.

Militant said:

Agreed.

I also think, with a bit of trimming, better sequencing and mashing up the best of Un2 and In2, you've got a classic Prince album.

I've always felt the record is underrated and doesn't get it's due props.

I have a playlist in my iTunes w/ a different sequencing and some swapped out tracks and it's become one of my favorite records of his tbh.

According to rateyourmusic.com, this is his weakest album.

I listened to it to death at the time and never understood why it was so unpopular. It was a very inspired album IMHO. It could have been a success à la D&P, I never really understood why it spiralled into oblivion like that past the first single.

The first album I ever bought from him & my introduction to his music. Been a fan eversince.