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Thread started 12/20/14 9:13am

feeluupp

Pheromone

Pheromone is hands down one of the most under rated under appreciated Prince songs from the 90's.

Not only does it have a killer beat but it has aged incredibly well... Honestly, Pheromone has aged better than anything on The Gold Experience album.

Under rated classic from the 90's... IMO Pheromone is one of his best songs recorded in the last 20 years.

[Edited 12/20/14 9:13am]

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Reply #1 posted 12/20/14 9:22am

SanMartin

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Ohmygodyes. The combination of Pheromone and Space is one of the highlights of Prince's studio output.

And I agree about TGE sounding dated; Come has aged vastly better. In fact, beyond Shhh and I Hate U, I don't really get the appeal of TGE.
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Reply #2 posted 12/20/14 9:43am

feeluupp

SanMartin said:

Ohmygodyes. The combination of Pheromone and Space is one of the highlights of Prince's studio output. And I agree about TGE sounding dated; Come has aged vastly better. In fact, beyond Shhh and I Hate U, I don't really get the appeal of TGE. [Edited 12/20/14 9:22am]

I listened to TGE for 2 days trying to get back into it, don't get me wrong some stand out songs like you said Shhh is one of my favorite Prince songs, I Hate U is one of his BEST ballads ever... But as a whole, it's creativity is undeniable, which I think many fans always praise the album... But as a whole... It's sounds very dated.

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Reply #3 posted 12/20/14 10:59am

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Agree 100% with all the above
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Reply #4 posted 12/20/14 11:01am

thedance

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A beautiful brilliant trio, the material from 1993-1995:

Come - Exodus - The Gold Experience love


An amazing highlight (peak) in the Prince history, imho.

worship

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Reply #5 posted 12/20/14 11:17am

feeluupp

It's funny if you listen to the sound and production on Pheremone, it's stood the test of time... Even lyrically, "Now I c a tear headed down towards her smile..." A very under rated song.

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Reply #6 posted 12/20/14 12:14pm

Noodled24

How many versions of this song exist? I remember it was on the Metropolis CD-ROM in the little mixing console thing.

I know there was the album version and the VH1 version, were there anymore?

Lyrically its one of the darkest songs he's ever released. Possibly purely intentional since the album was designed to piss off WB. One of the catchy commercial songs but with those lyrics not a chance they'd put it out as a single.

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Reply #7 posted 12/20/14 12:15pm

TheEnglishGent

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love it

RIP sad
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Reply #8 posted 12/20/14 12:42pm

feeluupp

Since 1994, I can't name too many songs that I personally thing production wise, sound wise and overall are as inquisitive as Pheromone... That was such a dark unique song, probably the first one since Dance With The Devil...

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Reply #9 posted 12/20/14 1:02pm

KingSausage

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It's an unacknowledged classic. It's bullshit that nobody outside of Prince fans knows this song.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Reply #10 posted 12/20/14 1:29pm

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One of my favourites, love the video too!

3121... Don't U Wanna Come?
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Reply #11 posted 12/20/14 3:15pm

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SanMartin said:

Ohmygodyes. The combination of Pheromone and Space is one of the highlights of Prince's studio output. And I agree about TGE sounding dated; Come has aged vastly better. In fact, beyond Shhh and I Hate U, I don't really get the appeal of TGE. [Edited 12/20/14 9:22am]

The combination of Pheromone and Space? You mean Pheromone and Loose right?

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Reply #12 posted 12/20/14 3:28pm

SanMartin

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nigel1013 said:



SanMartin said:


Ohmygodyes. The combination of Pheromone and Space is one of the highlights of Prince's studio output. And I agree about TGE sounding dated; Come has aged vastly better. In fact, beyond Shhh and I Hate U, I don't really get the appeal of TGE. [Edited 12/20/14 9:22am]

The combination of Pheromone and Space? You mean Pheromone and Loose right?




I just got the order muddled up in my head. That said, I do think the first four tracks of Come fit together exceptionally well as a whole, it's just that the two songs I mentioned are the stand-outs in my eyes. From Papa onwards I find the album loses its momentum and doesn't fully regain it, though I still prefer it to most of TGE.
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Reply #13 posted 12/20/14 3:37pm

feeluupp

SanMartin said:

nigel1013 said:

The combination of Pheromone and Space? You mean Pheromone and Loose right?

I just got the order muddled up in my head. That said, I do think the first four tracks of Come fit together exceptionally well as a whole, it's just that the two songs I mentioned are the stand-outs in my eyes. From Papa onwards I find the album loses its momentum and doesn't fully regain it, though I still prefer it to most of TGE.

I completely agree with you... Man the first original configuration of COME would've been his best album of the 90s imo if it was released that way...

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Reply #14 posted 12/20/14 4:15pm

V10LETBLUES

Agree 100% Pheromone is a very cool piece of music. The entire Come album has aged incredibly well. Along with The Truth, the only 90's albums I ever turn to.
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Reply #15 posted 12/20/14 4:42pm

nigel1013

feeluupp said:

SanMartin said:

nigel1013 said: I just got the order muddled up in my head. That said, I do think the first four tracks of Come fit together exceptionally well as a whole, it's just that the two songs I mentioned are the stand-outs in my eyes. From Papa onwards I find the album loses its momentum and doesn't fully regain it, though I still prefer it to most of TGE.

I completely agree with you... Man the first original configuration of COME would've been his best album of the 90s imo if it was released that way...

Papa turns me off on that album. TGE is overrated in my opinion.

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Reply #16 posted 12/20/14 6:04pm

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The first I heard the tune was on BET's Video LP with Donnie Simpson as host. It was cool watching people that didn't know it was a Prince song bobbing their heads to it. Some critics scoffed at the title, saying that only animals used pheromones, but more recent studies have shown that humans are also susceptible to chemical scent signals in their attraction to a mate.

http://abcnews.go.com/Hea...?id=116833
"So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..."
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Reply #17 posted 12/21/14 5:40am

steakfinger

kenkamken said:

The first I heard the tune was on BET's Video LP with Donnie Simpson as host. It was cool watching people that didn't know it was a Prince song bobbing their heads to it. Some critics scoffed at the title, saying that only animals used pheromones, but more recent studies have shown that humans are also susceptible to chemical scent signals in their attraction to a mate. http://abcnews.go.com/Hea...?id=116833

The critics were right, but only because humans ARE animals.

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Reply #18 posted 12/21/14 8:24am

rusty1

It's okay..
I've always felt " in this bed i scream"
Was highly underrated.
BOB4theFUNK
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Reply #19 posted 12/21/14 8:26am

nosajd

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Love this song, but absolutely disagree with the OP.

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Reply #20 posted 12/21/14 1:07pm

Militant

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Pheromone is pure genius. In fact, the whole Come album is insanely underrated. A fantastic record.

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Reply #21 posted 12/21/14 1:14pm

feeluupp

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Pheromone is pure genius. In fact, the whole Come album is insanely underrated. A fantastic record.

I agree with u, Pheromone is too under rated by Prince fans, I never hear people bring up this song or talk about it. Always hear ppl talk about TGE is the best The Rainbow Children is the best, blah blah...

Come is truely an underated album, yes there are some songs like Papa that detract from the overall greatness but there are so many great tracks, great 90's production that still don't sound dated today vs. albums like TGE and Emancipation...

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Reply #22 posted 12/21/14 2:04pm

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Some of the early configs of Come are just insanely good.
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Reply #23 posted 12/21/14 2:27pm

terrig

Militant said:

Pheromone is pure genius. In fact, the whole Come album is insanely underrated. A fantastic record.

i agree this album needs more love it's amazing!

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Reply #24 posted 12/21/14 4:26pm

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feeluupp said:

The Gold Experience. It's sounds very dated.

Really? An album recorded in the mid 90's sounds like it is from the mid 90's?

What a total failure... rolleyes

thedance said:

A beautiful brilliant trio, the material from 1993-1995:

Come - Exodus - The Gold Experience love


An amazing highlight (peak) in the Prince history, imho.

worship

Absolfreakinlutely smile

[Edited 12/21/14 16:28pm]

Hard to believe I've been on the org for over 25 years now!
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Reply #25 posted 12/21/14 4:28pm

feeluupp

FunkyStrange said:

feeluupp said:

The Gold Experience. It's sounds very dated.

Really? An album recorded in the mid 90's sounds like it is from the mid 90's?

What a total failure... rolleyes

[Edited 12/21/14 16:26pm]

TGE hasn't aged well IMO...

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Reply #26 posted 12/21/14 4:31pm

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feeluupp said:

FunkyStrange said:

Really? An album recorded in the mid 90's sounds like it is from the mid 90's?

What a total failure... rolleyes

TGE hasn't aged well IMO...

I just really don't understand this concept of saying an album sounds 'dated' .

Oh really the production sounds like 1994? Well guess what ? That's BECAUSE IT IS !!

Did you expect it to sound like 2044 production ? or 1944 ?

I just have no concept how people can say an album sounds dated.

EVERY album, every song EVER is dated, it was recorded at a specific time and nothing will ever change that, youy personal perception might be that it sounds like it is from a different time period but nothing changes the fact when it was written, recorded, produced and released...

Nothing.

Hard to believe I've been on the org for over 25 years now!
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Reply #27 posted 12/22/14 3:37am

jaawwnn

FunkyStrange said:

feeluupp said:

TGE hasn't aged well IMO...

I just really don't understand this concept of saying an album sounds 'dated' .

Oh really the production sounds like 1994? Well guess what ? That's BECAUSE IT IS !!

Did you expect it to sound like 2044 production ? or 1944 ?

I just have no concept how people can say an album sounds dated.

EVERY album, every song EVER is dated, it was recorded at a specific time and nothing will ever change that, youy personal perception might be that it sounds like it is from a different time period but nothing changes the fact when it was written, recorded, produced and released...

Nothing.

it's a fair point but I suppose it comes down to what do you hear first - "wow, what a great song" or "wow, listen to that 90's production". If something sounds dated you probably have to get past the production to hear the great song, as opposed to the production helping carry the song. Just a theory.

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Reply #28 posted 12/22/14 4:47am

SanMartin

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FunkyStrange said:



feeluupp said:




FunkyStrange said:




Really? An album recorded in the mid 90's sounds like it is from the mid 90's?


What a total failure... rolleyes




TGE hasn't aged well IMO...





I just really don't understand this concept of saying an album sounds 'dated' .



Oh really the production sounds like 1994? Well guess what ? That's BECAUSE IT IS !!



Did you expect it to sound like 2044 production ? or 1944 ?



I just have no concept how people can say an album sounds dated.



EVERY album, every song EVER is dated, it was recorded at a specific time and nothing will ever change that, youy personal perception might be that it sounds like it is from a different time period but nothing changes the fact when it was written, recorded, produced and released...



Nothing.





To my ears TGE sounds overbearing and tacky as a result of its production, whilst Come doesn't. That's what I mean when I say the former hasn't aged well.
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Reply #29 posted 12/22/14 4:53am

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Great story. rose
What?
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