This was a great, raw out-of-the-soundboard performance.
What the fuck did you expect?
Moses parting the red sea?

Now that auto-tune works in realtime, do you have any idea of how much artists fake their live performances, especially on TV ?

It was great the hear Clouds in a somewhat fragile state. This ain't no studio, this is live, motherfuckas! And here you go again whining about the sound, counting the missed notes, while you passively lay on your couch, instead of living every second with him. You obviously don't know nothing about live performances, how frightening it is to be on stage, moreover performing a song live for the first time.

He's no trained monkey, you pigs.

He's the Last Man Standing, and Alan Leeds, I love U, but go soak yo head.

All you naysayers can kiss his skinny ass. You're always opening your stinky mouths, babbling about the past or some imaginary golden era, when in fact you're just aging, and that pisses you off.

He's aging, more than you are, he's 56 and still shows you the finger.
Skipper is brilliant and always will be.

MattyJam said:

bonatoc said:

This was a great, raw out-of-the-soundboard performance.
What the fuck did you expect?
Moses parting the red sea?

Now that auto-tune works in realtime, do you have any idea of how much artists fake their live performances, especially on TV ?

It was great the hear Clouds in a somewhat fragile state. This ain't no studio, this is live, motherfuckas! And here you go again whining about the sound, counting the missed notes, while you passively lay on your couch, instead of living every second with him. You obviously don't know nothing about live performances, how frightening it is to be on stage, moreover performing a song live for the first time.

He's no trained monkey, you pigs.

He's the Last Man Standing, and Alan Leeds, I love U, but go soak yo head.

All you naysayers can kiss his skinny ass. You're always opening your stinky mouths, babbling about the past or some imaginary golden era, when in fact you're just aging, and that pisses you off.

He's aging, more than you are, he's 56 and still shows you the finger.
Skipper is brilliant and always will be.

um... dude, do you want to talk about it?

I think plenty of us here on the org know a thing or two about music and live performance so no need for you to trying to educate

Seems like you are pissed because you're way far up in Prince's ass. He is a fucking brilliant musician and I will forever admire him for his child-like creativity but I'm quite alright with listening to a lot of other GREAT music (jazz, opera, classical, contemporary etc, etc) that not only has nothing to do with P but often far more valuable and sacred in my eyes than pop/rock.

bonatoc said:

This was a great, raw out-of-the-soundboard performance.
What the fuck did you expect?
Moses parting the red sea?

Now that auto-tune works in realtime, do you have any idea of how much artists fake their live performances, especially on TV ?

It was great the hear Clouds in a somewhat fragile state. This ain't no studio, this is live, motherfuckas! And here you go again whining about the sound, counting the missed notes, while you passively lay on your couch, instead of living every second with him. You obviously don't know nothing about live performances, how frightening it is to be on stage, moreover performing a song live for the first time.

He's no trained monkey, you pigs.

He's the Last Man Standing, and Alan Leeds, I love U, but go soak yo head.

All you naysayers can kiss his skinny ass. You're always opening your stinky mouths, babbling about the past or some imaginary golden era, when in fact you're just aging, and that pisses you off.

He's aging, more than you are, he's 56 and still shows you the finger.
Skipper is brilliant and always will be.

Well put. It was a fun performance, people. Everyone outside the org and Alan Leeds' basement is raving about it. Lighten up and enjoy the new music ffs.

bonatoc said:

This was a great, raw out-of-the-soundboard performance.
What the fuck did you expect?
Moses parting the red sea?

Now that auto-tune works in realtime, do you have any idea of how much artists fake their live performances, especially on TV ?

It was great the hear Clouds in a somewhat fragile state. This ain't no studio, this is live, motherfuckas! And here you go again whining about the sound, counting the missed notes, while you passively lay on your couch, instead of living every second with him. You obviously don't know nothing about live performances, how frightening it is to be on stage, moreover performing a song live for the first time.

He's no trained monkey, you pigs.

He's the Last Man Standing, and Alan Leeds, I love U, but go soak yo head.

All you naysayers can kiss his skinny ass. You're always opening your stinky mouths, babbling about the past or some imaginary golden era, when in fact you're just aging, and that pisses you off.

He's aging, more than you are, he's 56 and still shows you the finger.
Skipper is brilliant and always will be.

Exaclty, and to the folks saying Lianne and hannah were off key; please go listen to any boot from the PR era and hear your gooddeses cat schreecing backing vocals live..Horrid

limoncello said:

bonatoc said:

This was a great, raw out-of-the-soundboard performance.
What the fuck did you expect?
Moses parting the red sea?

Now that auto-tune works in realtime, do you have any idea of how much artists fake their live performances, especially on TV ?

It was great the hear Clouds in a somewhat fragile state. This ain't no studio, this is live, motherfuckas! And here you go again whining about the sound, counting the missed notes, while you passively lay on your couch, instead of living every second with him. You obviously don't know nothing about live performances, how frightening it is to be on stage, moreover performing a song live for the first time.

He's no trained monkey, you pigs.

He's the Last Man Standing, and Alan Leeds, I love U, but go soak yo head.

All you naysayers can kiss his skinny ass. You're always opening your stinky mouths, babbling about the past or some imaginary golden era, when in fact you're just aging, and that pisses you off.

He's aging, more than you are, he's 56 and still shows you the finger.
Skipper is brilliant and always will be.

Well put. It was a fun performance, people. Everyone outside the org and Alan Leeds' basement is raving about it. Lighten up and enjoy the new music ffs.

By the way, never after all these years actually watched skipper play the boards,, he plays very very well, nice touch and feel to it..

bashraka said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

bashraka said:

Alan Leeds:

Prince on SNL - I fully realize I'm opening up a can of worms here, will probably regret saying this tomorrow, but I'm so disappointed by someone who has so much more to offer than mixed agendas that get in the way of his usually brilliant music.
I love his lifelong devotion to promoting women in rock but the appearance on SNL proved only that a girl band can play clichés, the talented Lianne La Havas can be under-utilized and Prince is no Alice Smith. In trivializing Smith's song has Prince embraced Alice's right to cover one of HIS songs? File this appearance under trying to do too much and ending up not doing much at all. Many, many years ago Prince asked me why he wasn't taken more seriously as a musician and I suggested he leave the bells and whistles home and tour in jeans and turtleneck, placing all the focus on the music. He sarcastically replied, "what? And look like you?". Back then he was probably right and I was naïve. BUT two decades later and two decades older, I would suggest the same thing. Leave the costumes and cartoon logos to the kids and give the music the mature respect it deserves. A shame..........a master lowering the bar is never fun to watch."

Courtesy of https://www.facebook.com/housequakecom

It's about time somebody other than us "haters" have the balls to tell the truth and shame the devil. Of couse he'll be called every name under the sun but that won't the reality and truth of his words.

What makes it the truth.. So alan knows more then Alice Smith, the woman who wrtoe the song? She is on cloud 9 as we speak,,Whats Alans agenda, he overstates his imporatnce a lot of times.. He was a tour manager which means he booked hotels and airfare..dont get it twisted

KaresB said:

Seems like you are pissed because you're way far up in Prince's ass. He is a fucking brilliant musician and I will forever admire him for his child-like creativity but I'm quite alright with listening to a lot of other GREAT music (jazz, opera, classical, contemporary etc, etc) that not only has nothing to do with P but often far more valuable and sacred in my eyes than pop/rock.

I'm pissed off at naysayers. This was a fine live performance.

I'm fed up with people bitching about details.

From the first second, their little inquisitive eyes and ears were waiting for the smallest flaw. Is that appreciating music? Living it?

Dude, at 11 I was singing Fauré, Vierne, Bach, Mozart and countless others, knew part I of The Köln Concert by heart.

Don't you dare musicologize me.

bonatoc said:

This was a great, raw out-of-the-soundboard performance.
What the fuck did you expect?
Moses parting the red sea?

Now that auto-tune works in realtime, do you have any idea of how much artists fake their live performances, especially on TV ?

It was great the hear Clouds in a somewhat fragile state. This ain't no studio, this is live, motherfuckas! And here you go again whining about the sound, counting the missed notes, while you passively lay on your couch, instead of living every second with him. You obviously don't know nothing about live performances, how frightening it is to be on stage, moreover performing a song live for the first time.

He's no trained monkey, you pigs.

He's the Last Man Standing, and Alan Leeds, I love U, but go soak yo head.

All you naysayers can kiss his skinny ass. You're always opening your stinky mouths, babbling about the past or some imaginary golden era, when in fact you're just aging, and that pisses you off.

He's aging, more than you are, he's 56 and still shows you the finger.
Skipper is brilliant and always will be.

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Dude.....tell us how you really feel.

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But I must admit I agree with most of what you said to some extent. I loved the rendition of Clouds for the very reasons you mentioned above. I love when he changes songs a bit here and there, and what you said about Clouds sounding a tad fragile is exactly why I liked this live version, especially with Prince on keyboards....this was a nice change from the usual guitar god or piano solo intros.

As far as Alan Leeds is concerned....I don´t know, I don´t think he´s wrong but he could´ve been a bit more diplomatic or maybe tried to reach out to him personally instead of posting stuff online. But I do think that Mr.Leeds has so much experience and wisdom, and so much history with Prince that what he says should be taken seriously. A bit of constructive criticism is not a bad thing. I think Prince does not really NEED help or advice, he´s good where he´s at but there seems to be this nagging feeling here in the fan community and even among his former associates that yes, he´s good, but things could be so much better because Prince still has so much untapped potential in him that he doesn´t utilize to the fullest. As far as I ´m concerned, I tend to see the good rather than the bad.

KoolEaze said:

bonatoc said:

This was a great, raw out-of-the-soundboard performance.
What the fuck did you expect?
Moses parting the red sea?

Now that auto-tune works in realtime, do you have any idea of how much artists fake their live performances, especially on TV ?

It was great the hear Clouds in a somewhat fragile state. This ain't no studio, this is live, motherfuckas! And here you go again whining about the sound, counting the missed notes, while you passively lay on your couch, instead of living every second with him. You obviously don't know nothing about live performances, how frightening it is to be on stage, moreover performing a song live for the first time.

He's no trained monkey, you pigs.

He's the Last Man Standing, and Alan Leeds, I love U, but go soak yo head.

All you naysayers can kiss his skinny ass. You're always opening your stinky mouths, babbling about the past or some imaginary golden era, when in fact you're just aging, and that pisses you off.

He's aging, more than you are, he's 56 and still shows you the finger.
Skipper is brilliant and always will be.

-

Dude.....tell us how you really feel.

-

But I must admit I agree with most of what you said to some extent. I loved the rendition of Clouds for the very reasons you mentioned above. I love when he changes songs a bit here and there, and what you said about Clouds sounding a tad fragile is exactly why I liked this live version, especially with Prince on keyboards....this was a nice change from the usual guitar god or piano solo intros.

As far as Alan Leeds is concerned....I don´t know, I don´t think he´s wrong but he could´ve been a bit more diplomatic or maybe tried to reach out to him personally instead of posting stuff online. But I do think that Mr.Leeds has so much experience and wisdom, and so much history with Prince that what he says should be taken seriously. A bit of constructive criticism is not a bad thing. I think Prince does not really NEED help or advice, he´s good where he´s at but there seems to be this nagging feeling here in the fan community and even among his former associates that yes, he´s good, but things could be so much better because Prince still has so much untapped potential in him that he doesn´t utilize to the fullest. As far as I ´m concerned, I tend to see the good rather than the bad.

yep....if alan was soo concerned,pick up the phone ..

as far as his concern for alice: here are her thoughts:

Definitely freaking out. Dying. I just saw @3RDEYEGIRL performance. Stunning of course but PRINCE SANG MY SONG !!! So basically I'm all set

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

bonatoc said:

knew part I of The Köln Concert by heart.

LOL, then you do know there's no point in replicating improvisations, don't you? Jarrett would never be able to do that note-for-note even if you'd point a pistol at him.

Just as James Brown, Aretha Franklin or Ray Charles weren't able to lipsync their own performances in Blues Brothers.

Anyway, calm down and enjoy your Prince concert from last night as much as you want. I'm off to something else instead.

KaresB said:

bonatoc said:

knew part I of The Köln Concert by heart.

LOL, then you do know there's no point in replicating improvisations, don't you? Jarrett would never be able to do that note-for-note even if you'd point a pistol at him.

Just as James Brown, Aretha Franklin or Ray Charles weren't able to lipsync their own performances in Blues Brothers.

Anyway, calm down and enjoy your Prince concert from last night as much as you want. I'm off to something else instead.

Girl Bye! lol

There's nothing wrong about being a little passionate.

My post probably is outta proportions, but come on, the performance was more than decent, and had to be defended properly.

We're not here to measure whose fiddle/dick is the longest.

Those of us who didn't like the performance are negative, miserable, fussy, hating, grumpy, sinful, EVIL, bitter old fucking whiny-ass little bitches who seriously need help! Wow! What does that make you all??

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[Edited 11/2/14 7:36am]

KoolEaze said:

there seems to be this nagging feeling here in the fan community and even among his former associates that yes, he´s good, but things could be so much better because Prince still has so much untapped potential in him that he doesn´t utilize to the fullest. As far as I ´m concerned, I tend to see the good rather than the bad.

There are two types of critique that one generally sees. One that focuses on something falling outside a person's preferred genre or aesthetic, where the critique is "X doesn't sounds like my favorite song/performance/time-period" etc. And another that focuses on critiques of sound-quality, song-craft, musicianship etc. Only the latter are valid IMO. The former is more a statement about the listener than the artist creating it. The problem with the former is that humans always tend to think that their aesthetic is more universal than it ever really is. The problem with the latter is that the person giving those critiques has to know what the intended goal is of the person their critiquing so that it doesn't fall flat.

It pains me to say I agree with Alan Leeds here: "File this appearance under trying to do too much and ending up not doing much at all." Go back and read Leeds' liner notes for The Hits. He kind of knows what he's talking about re: Prince's music. Just saying.

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For a new Prince listener that was a lot to take in at once. We all already know the songs very well and could appreciate even the snippets. I still hope it helps sell some albums, though.

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I'll take Prince anytime I can get him, but the performance did feel a bit rushed/forced to me. I understand it's a medley and maybe that comes with the territory in a live TV performance. We're lucky it was as good as it was, considering all the change ups, etc. I still enjoyed it, but would have preferred two full songs: One from AOA and one from PE. More specifically, "Way Back Home" with live strings and nice backing singers for the chorus. And "Another Love" in all its full rocking glory.

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His performance of "Fury" on SNL had much more feeling and emotion. I think I stood up out of my chair at the end of it like I just watched my favorite team score a touchdown. I just didn't get that from this medley. Again, not being harsh...he had a lot on his plate.

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Yeah and SNL sucks now. Too much politics and not enough good writing and players.

A thanks to bonatoc for his passionate write-up. It was what I needed, especially the "raw out of the soundboard" comment.

I was listening to clouds and my head was reeiling. "Bad mix? What's wrong with this?". So I did NOT like it.

But then... in this age of nothing but sound effects... "raw out of the soundboard" is unique. And I know enough about recording to know if it sounds THAT GOOD raw.... adding all the icing makes it... well in honesty it makes it good with icing on it.

I'd love to see ANY OTHER performer on SNL go out there and do the raw sound version. Many of their careers would end immediately. Somehow Lana Del Rey managed to get by her performance, but...

luv4u said:

novabrkr said:

The only real problem with the performance was that the singing was questionable. "Clouds" sounded messy, as neither Prince nor Lianne was singing the song like on the record and the two voices just didn't mix together that well. Hannah's background vocals were off-key during "Another Love" - she was playing the drums and apparently wasn't able to pull of doing the vocals that well at the same time. They should have just made Shelby's singing in the background louder (say what you want about her, but she can sure hit the right notes despite how bad the monitoring might be).

That was Liv

jasminejoey said:

novabrkr said:

luv4u said:

That was Liv

Yep Liv sounded amazing backing P up

Am I really the only one that thought it seemed like they had audio problems all throughout? The monitors on stage or ...something. It was a make the best of it, let's just get through it kinda performance.

I wasn't all that blown away. The song choice was good but...

Clouds didn't sound great live, like there was no rehersal.

Princes guitar wasn't plugged in when they went into PlectrumElectrum - which is fine - shit happens - but Prince didn't even seem to notice for about a minute.
Marz had no melody to it at all - it rocked but could have been so much better
AnotherLove was the highlight but Prince is more interesting on guitar than Donna so I wish he'd stop giving away so many solos.

All in it was enjoyable to see and nice to hear so many new songs played live. Perhaps it would have been more memorable had they just picked 2 songs and rocked out a bit more

Thanks 4 reaching my Xpectations 2nite! U r still the muziq genius & my HERO.

put his heart & soul in that SnL per4mance....

"Clouds" was amazing!!!

"Marz" & PLECTRUMELECTRUM ROCKED!

ANOTHERLOVE was ELECTRIFYING!!!!

U never seize to AMAZE me....U are the BEST musician on the planet!!!!

#PrinceOnSNL #Prince @3RDEYEGIRL