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Vinyl now set for 22nd December. edited due to education. [Edited 11/2/14 23:32pm] | |
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Umm, what tf are you talking about? More details please. |
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ilo said: And the depressing part is that it's bog standard, run of the mill, 120 gram vinyl. No depth for greater audio. The guy's a freakin cheapskate and a plonker.
The weight of an LP has nothing to do with the sound quality. It's a myth. And it's the label that chooses the weight to produce, not the artist. Warner doesn't produce vinyl for everything they release these days, so we should be grateful they decided to go ahead at all. [Edited 10/31/14 23:25pm] | |
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ilo said: And the depressing part is that it's bog standard, run of the mill, 120 gram vinyl. No depth for greater audio. The guy's a freakin cheapskate and a plonker. U should give him more money then so that he can spend more money. Me thinks URE the cheapskate. | |
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Not in 180 grams "Deluxe" vinyl..????? Prince 4Ever.  | |
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A CD can be made in a couple of days. Vinyl records, however, take a long time to make. And due to the vinyl boom, every operational vinyl press is working around the clock - and it's still not enough to meet the rising demand. This happens to a lot of releases: if the master and cover art isn't completed 3-4 months in advance of the release date, the vinyl version will be released much later than the CD / digital release. |
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Yeah bit of late night prince bashing. Sorry fella. Easy trap. It's on the WB site. Why they'd state 120g is odd as its like saying, "Sorry there's no insert or lyric sheet." It's not a selling point. With so many releases on vinyl being works of love by the artist lately I guess I've been spoilt. Atomos by A Winged Victory for the Sullen on 180, double, clear vinyl for instance (500 copy limited release), or the lovely, albeit cashcow, heavyweight vinyl remasters of Led Zeppelin I to V. I guess I was hoping for more as the current trend in the UK is this. Maybe he doesn't have a say. I'm sure if he wanted it it'd happen though. Oh as for 120g vinyl, it is more prone to warping over time. Also better is 12" played at 45rpm. Not many releases see this. Radiohead have a few. It's getting into very anal audiophile malarkey then though  | |
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As often as not, the "180gm virgin vinyl" craze is little more than a sales pitch, as these records quite often sound like shit. It's all about the mastering and the pressing. Compared to records I have from the 50s, 60s, 70s and very early 80s, a lot of pressings these days are terrible, amateurish affairs. I have returned a lot of records because out of the wrapper they sound scratchy, dull, brickwalled or are pressed off-centre, leadig to a weird, trippy kind of tone imbalance.
All my Prince records from For You through to The GOld Experience sound fantastic. With Rave things start to dip a bit - The Rainbow Children sounds great, but LotusFlow3r and MPLS have issues in their pressing.
This has always happened with vinyl to an extent, but it's far more common now as unfortunately there's generally less care taken with these things and they are often rushed out. I think it's good that they're taking their time. Of course, when a label/artist does take their time, a modern vinyl pressing can sound incredible. Neil Young apparently does the mastering for vinyl for his albums 'himself', or at least is personally involved. They sound spectacular. The last few Bob Dylan albums sound great on vinyl and sluggish or brickwalled on CD...
I'm no audiophile, but I do like stuff to sound good. It's the mastering that will make Art Official Age sound good on vinyl. 120gm is just fine.
It's not prone to warping at all... No record I own has ever gone from a non-warped state to a warped state by itself. I have been collecting vinyl for about twenty years (and have records from all the decades mentioned above, through to the latest Coltrane release Offering) and have never seen that. The only way a record will warp is if it's left in a place where undue heat can get to it. |
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Like the radiator in my bedroom when I was a teenager  | |
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Good discussion here on the 180gm vinyl issue:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/mastering-forum/454451-does-heavy-weight-vinyl-have-better-sound-than-standard-weight-lp.html
...main point I took from it is:
180 gram weight somehow being "better sounding" is one of the biggest myths in audio there is. Contrary to common misconception groove depth is set during mastering - as long as the biscuit the record is pressed from is the minimum weight needed for good fill (easily achievable at 120 grams) then the weight of the record has absolutely no effect on this.
So, you know, get depressed over something else... | |
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Ya its just more sturdy i guess Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records. | |
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Originally I was given the date by amazon.fr (France): [Edited 11/2/14 18:42pm] Prince 4Ever. | |
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I still prefer the great 180 grams. Prince 4Ever. | |
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I can afford vinyl, prefer vinyl, feel more connected with the music on vinyl. But I know it takes up space, needs care and is a current hipster trend. That doesn't bother me. I also am fully aware that at the end of the day it's only about the music. | |
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thedance said: This sucks. And whats with all those delays....... A CD can be made in a couple of days. Vinyl records, however, take a long time to make. And due to the vinyl boom, every operational vinyl press is working around the clock - and it's still not enough to meet the rising demand. This happens to a lot of releases: if the master and cover art isn't completed 3-4 months in advance of the release date, the vinyl version will be released much later than the CD / digital release. Yep, there are limited Vinyl Pressing machines around these days, hopefully this will be worked on over the next couple of years with the increase in current sales of the format. If anyone is interested, this is how its made, http://www.youtube.com/wa...IaS3oZ6Vqg [Edited 11/3/14 0:29am] [Edited 11/3/14 0:30am] | |
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