I need everyone to take this as a RUMOR because I'm very, very, VERY far down on the food chain, but someone I may or may not know, who may or may not have some west coast connections, told me WB is working on three separate releases.

3. A remastered boxed set with Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign o' the Times and Lovesexy to follow about six months after the first boxed set.

Hope that helps.

I doubt it is dead and buried. Prince cant just sign a contract with WB, get his masters back and then run away from the deal. His ass would be sued quick time. Im sure it hasnt quite gone to plan in as far as WB are concerned. But you can bet they will still be wanting their side of the deal because they were never going to give back ALL his masters in return for 2 relatively poor selling albums. They would have been better off holding onto the masters and giving each one back as and when it was due.

Im sure we will still get a PR reissue but it may not be as full of gems as we had hoped. It may just have extra songs that WB already have their hands on as opposed to Prince mining the vault for the project. That would be a shame.

December1984 said:

I need everyone to take this as a RUMOR because I'm very, very, VERY far down on the food chain, but someone I may or may not know, who may or may not have some west coast connections, told me WB is working on three separate releases.

1. A THREE-DISC Purple Rain remaster. No, he (or she) wouldn't say what was on discs 2 and 3.

2. A remastered boxed set with Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain. The version of Purple Rain in the boxed set would be the same as the one sold separately.

3. A remastered boxed set with Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign o' the Times and Lovesexy to follow about six months after the first boxed set.

I couldn't get any word on extras for any of the remasters besides Purple Rain. That doesn't mean there aren't any, just that I don't know.

And finally, the person who may or may not have told me this thought Dirty Mind was Prince's first album so he or she was confused to begin with.

Hope that helps.

That's complete bullshit.

Why, in the first place would WB have waited 2015 to release a 30th anniversary release ?

Remember Kobalt ? Epic ? Prince signed two other deals ths year than WB, and those deals lead to nowhere.

Same with WB, aside the release AOA and PE which were expected to sell far better, because Prince was supposed to get involved in the promotion.

love2thenines2003 said:

December1984 said:

I need everyone to take this as a RUMOR because I'm very, very, VERY far down on the food chain, but someone I may or may not know, who may or may not have some west coast connections, told me WB is working on three separate releases.

1. A THREE-DISC Purple Rain remaster. No, he (or she) wouldn't say what was on discs 2 and 3.

2. A remastered boxed set with Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain. The version of Purple Rain in the boxed set would be the same as the one sold separately.

3. A remastered boxed set with Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign o' the Times and Lovesexy to follow about six months after the first boxed set.

I couldn't get any word on extras for any of the remasters besides Purple Rain. That doesn't mean there aren't any, just that I don't know.

And finally, the person who may or may not have told me this thought Dirty Mind was Prince's first album so he or she was confused to begin with.

Hope that helps.

.

I want to believe.

RODSERLING said:

December1984 said:

I need everyone to take this as a RUMOR because I'm very, very, VERY far down on the food chain, but someone I may or may not know, who may or may not have some west coast connections, told me WB is working on three separate releases.

1. A THREE-DISC Purple Rain remaster. No, he (or she) wouldn't say what was on discs 2 and 3.

2. A remastered boxed set with Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain. The version of Purple Rain in the boxed set would be the same as the one sold separately.

3. A remastered boxed set with Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign o' the Times and Lovesexy to follow about six months after the first boxed set.

I couldn't get any word on extras for any of the remasters besides Purple Rain. That doesn't mean there aren't any, just that I don't know.

And finally, the person who may or may not have told me this thought Dirty Mind was Prince's first album so he or she was confused to begin with.

Hope that helps.

That's complete bullshit.

Why, in the first place would WB have waited 2015 to release a 30th anniversary release ?

Remember Kobalt ? Epic ? Prince signed two other deals ths year than WB, and those deals lead to nowhere.

Same with WB, aside the release AOA and PE which were expected to sell far better, because Prince was supposed to get involved in the promotion.

He kind of was involved in the promotion only not in the lead up to the album release specifically, although not mentioned at the time WB would have been behind the Hit & Run shows as part of the run up and although not seen as promotion as such for AOA and PE specifically, it was promotion for Prince in general to increase his presence in the European market and to an extent it worked (Both albums hitting the UK album chart top 10) along with doing semi-well in other european countires.

I know myself personally that the crew bedrooms were booked months in advance at the hotel they stayed at in Manchester for the Arena shows, They just wasnt aware who it was for, because I had taken up 150 of their rooms for one of my clients and they tried to get me to release some so they had rooms to sell for an event going on sale at double the price.

December1984 said:

I need everyone to take this as a RUMOR because I'm very, very, VERY far down on the food chain, but someone I may or may not know, who may or may not have some west coast connections, told me WB is working on three separate releases.

1. A THREE-DISC Purple Rain remaster. No, he (or she) wouldn't say what was on discs 2 and 3.

2. A remastered boxed set with Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain. The version of Purple Rain in the boxed set would be the same as the one sold separately.

3. A remastered boxed set with Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign o' the Times and Lovesexy to follow about six months after the first boxed set.

I couldn't get any word on extras for any of the remasters besides Purple Rain. That doesn't mean there aren't any, just that I don't know.

And finally, the person who may or may not have told me this thought Dirty Mind was Prince's first album so he or she was confused to begin with.

Hope that helps.

That sounds pretty similar thing somone posted on here months ago who said they knew someone at Warner brothers and it was going to be released in November. That's where the November release date stemmed from.

I would take it with a pinch of salt because Prince will hold this up when and where possible and make it hard for WB.

I honestly wouldnt be surpised if he had dug his little heels in and told them they can only release PR as it is now with no addiitonal content just remastered, and the negotiation is holding it up.

love2thenines2003 said:

S3V3N said:

What does Prince need to do, exactly, to support PR30? Seems like remastering is mostly studio tech work. That's WB's effort, right? WB just needs Prince to show up and do retro themed appearances to move some units. But he made it clear to fans and former associates he isn't looking back. FDeluxe and The Revolution have shared some of those insights, directly, at their own reunion shows. Prince has been getting word out and managing expectations for at least three years now. Seems like anybody who winds up disappointed hasn't been listening.

I wonder Why....WB have signed this Deal with Prince ...just to loose some Money & Time for peanuts????

The thing is, they wont have signed him for his sales, he is never going to sell millions its 2014 not the 1980's.

They have signed him for the numebrs he can still bring in touring which is where the money is made. They will make more from 3-4 concerts than they would from AOA & PE together.

WB are behind a tour as they have said Tour info is coming soon.

This is an artists main source of revenue these days, not album sales, if they were hevily focused on Album sales alone these albums would not be on the likes of Spotify to listen to for free.

fnksoul said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I wonder Why....WB have signed this Deal with Prince ...just to loose some Money & Time for peanuts????

The thing is, they wont have signed him for his sales, he is never going to sell millions its 2014 not the 1980's.

They have signed him for the numebrs he can still bring in touring which is where the money is made. They will make more from 3-4 concerts than they would from AOA & PE together.

WB are behind a tour as they have said Tour info is coming soon.

This is an artists main source of revenue these days, not album sales, if they were hevily focused on Album sales alone these albums would not be on the likes of Spotify to listen to for free.

Prince doesn't need WB to tour. All this is fucking nonsense.

Why WB would wait 2015 for the reissues ? They've already the existing material, surely even the packaging ready since 10 years.

So, the 2015 release is bullshit

Why would Prince share a piece of the cake with WB to tour ? He toured without them during the last twenty years, and made more money than with touring with them.

So, the forthcoming tour with WB is bullshit.

RODSERLING said:

fnksoul said:

The thing is, they wont have signed him for his sales, he is never going to sell millions its 2014 not the 1980's.

They have signed him for the numebrs he can still bring in touring which is where the money is made. They will make more from 3-4 concerts than they would from AOA & PE together.

WB are behind a tour as they have said Tour info is coming soon.

This is an artists main source of revenue these days, not album sales, if they were hevily focused on Album sales alone these albums would not be on the likes of Spotify to listen to for free.

Prince doesn't need WB to tour. All this is fucking nonsense.

Why WB would wait 2015 for the reissues ? They've already the existing material, surely even the packaging ready since 10 years.

So, the 2015 release is bullshit

Why would Prince share a piece of the cake with WB to tour ? He toured without them during the last twenty years, and made more money than with touring with them.

So, the forthcoming tour with WB is bullshit.

I agree with you... I really fear for the worst with the remaster... According to hits daily double, they show a list of all the upcoming major label releases until March and there is no Purple Rain re issue.

I have a bad feeling the deal got sour after the release of AOA and PE... Personally I think the only reason WB allowed for Prince to release those two albums was in junction with releaseing the Purple Rain re issue... I guess time will tell.

RODSERLING said:

fnksoul said:

The thing is, they wont have signed him for his sales, he is never going to sell millions its 2014 not the 1980's.

They have signed him for the numebrs he can still bring in touring which is where the money is made. They will make more from 3-4 concerts than they would from AOA & PE together.

WB are behind a tour as they have said Tour info is coming soon.

This is an artists main source of revenue these days, not album sales, if they were hevily focused on Album sales alone these albums would not be on the likes of Spotify to listen to for free.

Prince doesn't need WB to tour. All this is fucking nonsense.

Why WB would wait 2015 for the reissues ? They've already the existing material, surely even the packaging ready since 10 years.

So, the 2015 release is bullshit

Why would Prince share a piece of the cake with WB to tour ? He toured without them during the last twenty years, and made more money than with touring with them.

So, the forthcoming tour with WB is bullshit.

He doesnt need them to do a tour, but when was the last time he did a massive world tour and not just 6 or so odd dates or just shows in one country?

Prince will not put up the money himself to self fund a big world tour and take the financial risk we learnt with his albums that he wouldnt take the risk to release them himself which is why he sold certain albums to Newspapers to give out in exchange for a lump sum, this is what labels fund on a larger scale. For a start if for what ever reason it was to fall through what happens then to Prince's money? I work in event management and contracts on Arenas etc... require large deposits and cancellation policies are in places for charges should it cancel and things.

If WB says right we'll give you £40/50m for a world tour up front (as an example fee) do you think he'd turn it down?

Im not sure how you can say a tour with WB is bullshit though when they have already specified on a press release that they will be releasing tour dates?

Think everyone needs to calm down to be fair, he and wb owe us nothing and they will be out there when they are ready.

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fnksoul said:

I honestly wouldnt be surpised if he had dug his little heels in and told them they can only release PR as it is now with no addiitonal content just remastered, and the negotiation is holding it up.

And I would have no interest in this, "with no additional content just remastered".

I think the current master sounds much better (sonically) than say the new albums.

I'm only in this for "additional content" and will continue to listen to the original master of the album itself...

Bonus trax however will get me to throw my money at Prince & WB!!

djThunderfunk said:

fnksoul said:

I honestly wouldnt be surpised if he had dug his little heels in and told them they can only release PR as it is now with no addiitonal content just remastered, and the negotiation is holding it up.

And I would have no interest in this, "with no additional content just remastered".

I think the current master sounds much better (sonically) than say the new albums.

I'm only in this for "additional content" and will continue to listen to the original master of the album itself...

Bonus trax however will get me to throw my money at Prince & WB!!

that's exactly the amount of Intrest Prince has in being involved

fnksoul said:

RODSERLING said:

Prince doesn't need WB to tour. All this is fucking nonsense.

Why WB would wait 2015 for the reissues ? They've already the existing material, surely even the packaging ready since 10 years.

So, the 2015 release is bullshit

Why would Prince share a piece of the cake with WB to tour ? He toured without them during the last twenty years, and made more money than with touring with them.

So, the forthcoming tour with WB is bullshit.

He doesnt need them to do a tour, but when was the last time he did a massive world tour and not just 6 or so odd dates or just shows in one country?

Prince will not put up the money himself to self fund a big world tour and take the financial risk we learnt with his albums that he wouldnt take the risk to release them himself which is why he sold certain albums to Newspapers to give out in exchange for a lump sum, this is what labels fund on a larger scale. For a start if for what ever reason it was to fall through what happens then to Prince's money? I work in event management and contracts on Arenas etc... require large deposits and cancellation policies are in places for charges should it cancel and things.

If WB says right we'll give you £40/50m for a world tour up front (as an example fee) do you think he'd turn it down?

Im not sure how you can say a tour with WB is bullshit though when they have already specified on a press release that they will be releasing tour dates?

Think everyone needs to calm down to be fair, he and wb owe us nothing and they will be out there when they are ready.

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WB already specified on a press release they would release PR for its 30th anniversary in 2014.

Kobalt already specified they had a deal with Prince.

EPIC already specified they had a deal with prince.

All of that the same fucking year.

Prince only tour in countries where he can earn money. He knows this countries well : USA, UK, france, Swiss, belgium, Netherlands, Australia, etc.

Plus, a world tour means you have something to promote.

Prince doesn't to promote anything associated with WB.

20 years after leaving WB, you think prince is such an asshole that he would have earn more money on tour with WB ?

Come on, everybody knows that Prince would fuck up a WB world tour, just for fun, and would turn it into a HIT and RUN tour.

I am yet to see that fabled Warner Bros press release.

Never saw anything beyond variations on this - http://www.billboard.com/...bum-coming

RODSERLING said:

fnksoul said:

He doesnt need them to do a tour, but when was the last time he did a massive world tour and not just 6 or so odd dates or just shows in one country?

Prince will not put up the money himself to self fund a big world tour and take the financial risk we learnt with his albums that he wouldnt take the risk to release them himself which is why he sold certain albums to Newspapers to give out in exchange for a lump sum, this is what labels fund on a larger scale. For a start if for what ever reason it was to fall through what happens then to Prince's money? I work in event management and contracts on Arenas etc... require large deposits and cancellation policies are in places for charges should it cancel and things.

If WB says right we'll give you £40/50m for a world tour up front (as an example fee) do you think he'd turn it down?

Im not sure how you can say a tour with WB is bullshit though when they have already specified on a press release that they will be releasing tour dates?

Think everyone needs to calm down to be fair, he and wb owe us nothing and they will be out there when they are ready.

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WB already specified on a press release they would release PR for its 30th anniversary in 2014.

Kobalt already specified they had a deal with Prince.

EPIC already specified they had a deal with prince.

All of that the same fucking year.

Prince only tour in countries where he can earn money. He knows this countries well : USA, UK, france, Swiss, belgium, Netherlands, Australia, etc.

Plus, a world tour means you have something to promote.

Prince doesn't to promote anything associated with WB.

20 years after leaving WB, you think prince is such an asshole that he would have earn more money on tour with WB ?

Come on, everybody knows that Prince would fuck up a WB world tour, just for fun, and would turn it into a HIT and RUN tour.

Purple Rain - No where in the Press release did it state 2014 - no official source has mentioned 2014 therefore, album not specified for a 2014 release only 30th Anniversary, just because the release date fell on 2014 there is a 12 month window to release something to co-inside.

Kobalt - Wasnt a normal record deal, it was an outlet should he have wanted to put something out he could, sounded like a no strings thing imo

EPIC - Was a 1 song Deal - (Fallinluv2nite) Hence why that isnt on AOA

Prince will want to put out more albums and the only way to get that done eventually with Warner Brothers is to make it worth their while and the only way he will bring in revenue worth it for them is by touring. His album sales are weak, he could put out his best work of his life but in 2014 onwards he wont sell high volumes. There is a reason very little money was put into promotion for AOA and PE because they still needed to make something on it.

Legally they owned his Masters for Years to come and at the end of it it still could have been a legal battle to get them back. So he must have offered something quite sustancial to get them handed over.

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jaawwnn said:

I am yet to see that fabled Warner Bros press release.

Never saw anything beyond variations on this - http://www.billboard.com/...bum-coming

That was the Official one they linked to on the 3EG twitter.

If this HAS turned sour, I hope WB sues Prince for everything he's got and he even has to sell his instruments, clothes and purple cock ring collection.

I seriously doubt that WB ever intended to release it this year, and probably hoped to arouse interest in Prince again with these so-called "comeback" albums. Releasing it next year makes a lot of sense, as it give the other two albums a little time to sell, and get Prince in the public eye again with his appearances to promote these albums.

There is no way WB would have deliberately competed against themselves by releasing the sure-to-sell PR remaster up against new albums that only die-hards would care about. They don't care if it's 1984 or 1985 that is the "Anniversary", since PR's popularity was at its zenith in 85. The general public isn't going to even know or care. "Hmmm, 30 years? I guess that's about right", will be the average joe's reaction. I doubt this will be shelved, as I believe this was the main reason WB went for this deal to begin with. HOPEFULLY, this just means WB is actually taking their time to put together a nice package that we'll all enjoy.

JediMaster said:

I seriously doubt that WB ever intended to release it this year, and probably hoped to arouse interest in Prince again with these so-called "comeback" albums. Releasing it next year makes a lot of sense, as it give the other two albums a little time to sell, and get Prince in the public eye again with his appearances to promote these albums.

There is no way WB would have deliberately competed against themselves by releasing the sure-to-sell PR remaster up against new albums that only die-hards would care about. They don't care if it's 1984 or 1985 that is the "Anniversary", since PR's popularity was at its zenith in 85. The general public isn't going to even know or care. "Hmmm, 30 years? I guess that's about right", will be the average joe's reaction. I doubt this will be shelved, as I believe this was the main reason WB went for this deal to begin with. HOPEFULLY, this just means WB is actually taking their time to put together a nice package that we'll all enjoy.

Glad that someone see's there is Zero logic in releasing 3 albums in Close proximity of each other, there really is only die hard fans who are bothered the general casual fan wont commit to 3 albums in the space of months. Just floods the market.

The only way for WB to make some money was ...selling an Anthology Box set & a single release of PR Remastered but the deal is Dead now!

December1984 said:

I need everyone to take this as a RUMOR because I'm very, very, VERY far down on the food chain, but someone I may or may not know, who may or may not have some west coast connections, told me WB is working on three separate releases.

1. A THREE-DISC Purple Rain remaster. No, he (or she) wouldn't say what was on discs 2 and 3.

2. A remastered boxed set with Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain. The version of Purple Rain in the boxed set would be the same as the one sold separately.

3. A remastered boxed set with Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign o' the Times and Lovesexy to follow about six months after the first boxed set.

I couldn't get any word on extras for any of the remasters besides Purple Rain. That doesn't mean there aren't any, just that I don't know.

And finally, the person who may or may not have told me this thought Dirty Mind was Prince's first album so he or she was confused to begin with.

Hope that helps.

These ideas are great but somehow,I don't believe it's really going to happen.I'm sure that Warners would be interested in doing it,but I get the feeling that a remastered Purple Rain is all we're going to see I hate to be so skeptical,but this is Prince we're talking about,lol.

fnksoul said:

JediMaster said:

I seriously doubt that WB ever intended to release it this year, and probably hoped to arouse interest in Prince again with these so-called "comeback" albums. Releasing it next year makes a lot of sense, as it give the other two albums a little time to sell, and get Prince in the public eye again with his appearances to promote these albums.

There is no way WB would have deliberately competed against themselves by releasing the sure-to-sell PR remaster up against new albums that only die-hards would care about. They don't care if it's 1984 or 1985 that is the "Anniversary", since PR's popularity was at its zenith in 85. The general public isn't going to even know or care. "Hmmm, 30 years? I guess that's about right", will be the average joe's reaction. I doubt this will be shelved, as I believe this was the main reason WB went for this deal to begin with. HOPEFULLY, this just means WB is actually taking their time to put together a nice package that we'll all enjoy.

Glad that someone see's there is Zero logic in releasing 3 albums in Close proximity of each other, there really is only die hard fans who are bothered the general casual fan wont commit to 3 albums in the space of months. Just floods the market.

Exactly. The new albums JUST came out, and chances are strong that Prince insisted these two discs be released BEFORE the PR remaster. They'll wait at least six months, I would imagine, unless these two albums really take off in popularity...which is unlikely.

I think his hair in his latest picture is a bit Purple Rain-ish, so maybe the reissue is still on.

At this point I think it's become less of an "anniversary" release and more of a "collector's edition" or "deluxe edition" or whatever they end up calling it.

JediMaster said:

I seriously doubt that WB ever intended to release it this year, and probably hoped to arouse interest in Prince again with these so-called "comeback" albums. Releasing it next year makes a lot of sense, as it give the other two albums a little time to sell, and get Prince in the public eye again with his appearances to promote these albums.

There is no way WB would have deliberately competed against themselves by releasing the sure-to-sell PR remaster up against new albums that only die-hards would care about. They don't care if it's 1984 or 1985 that is the "Anniversary", since PR's popularity was at its zenith in 85. The general public isn't going to even know or care. "Hmmm, 30 years? I guess that's about right", will be the average joe's reaction. I doubt this will be shelved, as I believe this was the main reason WB went for this deal to begin with. HOPEFULLY, this just means WB is actually taking their time to put together a nice package that we'll all enjoy.

post full of contradictions.

You said WB wouldn't want to release 3 albums coast-to-coast ( no need to be Sherloch Holmes to guess that) but, alas! they released 2 albums the same fucking day, which is a terrible commercial mistake.

You said WB wants to give the albums a little time to sell. AOA is at 92.000 now in the USA, in 3 months, it will be at 120.000. PE is at approximatively 40.000, in 3 months maybe 50.000. What's the point ?

And then, what's the point on promoting theses albums months later ? Casual people who bought it surely will be disappointed. AOA is not the same music style as PR. hell, AOA doesn't even has a booklet, a real thievery.

You said they wanted to capitalize on a "comeback" , but they didn't even bother to shoot one music video, or to create an event with the releases of the albums.

They should have released PR deluxe on summer, with a tour,and eventually release the two albums now. Only in that direction you could have create a comeback.

WB doesn't need time to create a package for PR they already have this in mind since at least ten years. They have already the bonus material in hand : b-faces, and extented versions.

It doesn't take more than a few days to design the reeditions such as PARADE, 1999, etc.

It's not a matter of time, at all, it's just a matter that AOA and PE flopped, because Prince didn't want to be involved.

warning2all said:

AOA and PlEl have to run their course in the marketplace, before PR comes out. Even at his peak, WB would never release 3 Prince albums in one season.

You think in the wrong way. Why are you all talking about releaseing 3 albums in one season ? IIRC, WB released 2 albums the same fucking day.

That's PR deluxe they should have released first, that's the one everybody waited for. And AOA and PE in 2015...or never.

RODSERLING said:

warning2all said:

AOA and PlEl have to run their course in the marketplace, before PR comes out. Even at his peak, WB would never release 3 Prince albums in one season.

You think in the wrong way. Why are you all talking about releaseing 3 albums in one season ? IIRC, WB released 2 albums the same fucking day.

That's PR deluxe they should have released first, that's the one everybody waited for. And AOA and PE in 2015...or never.

PR is the one the Die Hards waited for, the vast majority coudlnt care less