databank said:

fnksoul said:

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On this same kinda thing, I posted something about they could put out a crowd funding site where fans could buy it in a digital format say £10 each until it his a target and then a download link gets emailed out. They could have different levels of donations so a next package could be CD, then Vinyl etc... that way they dont need a label and when it hits their taget they have the funds in advance to go ahead and sort the distribution independently and it leaves them with a lump sum probably more than what they would get after a Labels cut. (If its successful)

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Although im looking forward to it, I dont think the album will be worthy of being toured like art, maybe if it were just a Prince record and it was his finest record yet but I think there will be alot of people disappointed if they are just expecting a Prince only record when they hear songs from Hannah and Josh etc...

The whole point of crowd-funding is that artists can get enough money to finance the creation (i.e. studio costs for music) of the product itself. It makes no sense here at all given that the material for Plectrum Electrum is already recorded and that anyway is a multimillionaire who OWNS a recording studio and can rent any other at any time and at any cost

Of course crowd-funding could just pay for the manufacturing of CD's or vinyls (it's a nonsense for downloads since it's virtually costless) but hell once again doesn't need us to advance the money to be able to press discs. Crowd funding is for people who ain't got cash, not for multimillionaires

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Even Multimillionaires will take peoples money to fund things no one wants to take a financial risk if it can be avoided. He wouldnt want to use his own money to finance production/distribution of Vinyl/cd's for something that will potentially flop and leave him out of pocket if he was going to do that and be at no financial gain he could just put it out for free as a download. Very few artists will fund things like that themselves that's why they sign to lables, the labels will fund all of that plus tours etc... Although he has money he wont want to end up out of pocket himself.

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I mean come on, he's charging $25 for people to go to Paisley this weekend and listen to a handful of songs if he felt he had the money to spare he would cover that himself, say 150 people turn up $3750 is pocket change yet he wouldnt cover it, he wants people to listen to his music and is charging them for the pleasure.

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RodeoSchro said:

fusk said:

pffff, there re plenty of people here who love prince like crazy, but just want to have an album in their hands. No need to get all defensive and accuse those people of prince-hating...

But you've got one! Didn't you read the second sentence of my post? And the third?

You've gotten 2, maybe 3 albums' worth of material over the last two years. Do you not realize that?

i mean people want an something presented as an album. A finished, uncut, nicely packaged artistic statement. I think it's a little disingenuous to act like there's no difference between that kind of album-package and a bunch of singles released online over the span of years.

fusk said:

fusk said:

RodeoSchro said:

But you've got one! Didn't you read the second sentence of my post? And the third?

You've gotten 2, maybe 3 albums' worth of material over the last two years. Do you not realize that?

i mean people want an something presented as an album. A finished, uncut, nicely packaged artistic statement. I think it's a little disingenuous to act like there's no difference between that kind of album-package and a bunch of singles released online over the span of years.

Unless the album is of a specific theme, what's the difference? I mean, besides some liner notes.

I like albums too, but my main point is that we have DEFINITELY been presented with an album's worth of material. We're not starved for music from Prince.

I will say though, that I believe "20Ten" is DEFINITELY an album, and when listened to from start to finish, it shines IMO.

But maybe Prince wrote those songs for that specific reason, and wrote the stuff from the last couple years for a completely different, one-song-at-a-time reason.

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Actually, sounds like a good idea to me...tour with a single copy, charge nominal fees (all profit) until you're bored, then sell it to the record company (for millions), who will distribute it to recoup their investment.

I wish this theory made sense because that would be much cooler. They've already implied it was a traditional release however.

Prince isn't releasing shit until he's been reassured by 7000 synchophants that his new album is better than Purple Rain. So what you have to do is is get the exact tally of attendees at these listening parties, estimate the number of azz-kissing synchophants participating (probably all them because who else ain't got nothing better to do than drive to Minnesotta on a Sat night), multiply that by the number of listening parties and you will begin to have an idea when this shit is going to drop. I remember when peeps were demanding the release date of the Bria record and Mayte's album. Some folks really wanted Prince to produce a Scrap D album.

in all honesty, that idea has scared me!

i'll never be able to go to a listening party probably ever! because i'm here in england and Paisley Park is over in America, and the same goes for touring unless he does the £70 down to £10 thing again.

for now, you and i can only iMAGiNE what the album and its sound is like.

and i don't know about y'all, but i would die for it to be released like now.

psyche2 said:

IstenSzek said:

in an embryonic (is that a word?) way, that was what the "Crystal Ball" release was like,

when pre-orders hit 100.000 or something they released it. remember how well that one

went?

CB never managed 100,000 preorders. Sevenmag debunked that back in the days of the PPML. And those preorder numbers were only used to entice a regular distributor.

SlightlyWIRED said:

P is simply waging a PR war. All this nonsense about not wanting to release it because of MP3 compression etc is to hide the truth - Warners do not want to release it, yet.

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3EG isn't the "new" P album. That's a different one. Please read Jon Bream's listening party article.

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P on the other hand is all about the here and now and wants people focussing on Plectrum Electrum.

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Which is at least six months old.

NouveauDance said:

Prince sees the $$$ so doesn't much care about anything else for the moment, until it's time to do some work, he'd rather not bother and just put out the 3EG album since that's in the can by now - but Warners rightly so turn it down because it's a) not PR 30th and b) not a Prince album per se.

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We already know 3EG is not the album WB were going to release. Jon Bream reported on TWO albums for his listening party, one of them was a Prince album.

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My guess is that P wanted to independently release the 3EG record now before the onslaught of the PR Deluxe + whatever new P album this Fall, only to discover that there's an exclusivity clause.

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Also note that the Kobalt deal went nowhere. Wouldn't surprise me if they were presented with the 3EG some time ago and rejected it.

EyeHatechu said:

If only he would have listened to what trax and lstenSzek said we would all be alot happier. Its like he got his name back around by making TV appearances, made headlines by signing back with Warners and made up all this hype, then everything just paused for a moment. It would have been a perfect time to release SOMETHING, at least.

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Once the WB deal was in place, nothing was going to be released unless WB gives the nod.

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Prince had plenty of chances to release the 3EG record, it just seems like nobody wanted to pay the advance he was demanding.

I've lost interest in PE and will be fine if its never released.

In fact I hope its never released.

thedoorkeeper said:

I've lost interest in PE and will be fine if its never released.

In fact I hope its never released.

Agreed.

The album doesn't exist...it's not coming out.

BartVanHemelen said:

EyeHatechu said:

If only he would have listened to what trax and lstenSzek said we would all be alot happier. Its like he got his name back around by making TV appearances, made headlines by signing back with Warners and made up all this hype, then everything just paused for a moment. It would have been a perfect time to release SOMETHING, at least.

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Once the WB deal was in place, nothing was going to be released unless WB gives the nod.

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Prince had plenty of chances to release the 3EG record, it just seems like nobody wanted to pay the advance he was demanding.

do you know what advances he was demanding?