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Thread started 07/21/14 2:16am

808G30rg3

What happened to the Prince albums on HDTracks.com?

I just did a search & couldn't find them, I could've sworn they were there last week.
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Reply #1 posted 07/21/14 2:47am

fnksoul

Looks like they have been taken off, I dont know how 'Official' they were, I cant imagine they were Full HD from Masters so we're probably unofficially remastered/upscaled from CD/Vinyl recordings or something. I'd have thought if they have been told to remove them they will probabaly be hit with a nice lawsuit too

[Edited 7/21/14 2:51am]

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Reply #2 posted 07/21/14 2:54am

808G30rg3

I guess with all the MP3 compression talk this past week & people tweeting the 3rdeyegirl account with links to this site it's possible Prince decided to flex his newfound ownership muscle & had them taken off & doesn't want any remastered issues out there until he releases them, I think it's more than a coincidence these were there for over a year now all of a sudden they're gone.

fnksoul said:

Looks like they have been taken off, I dont know how 'Official' they were, I cant imagine they were Full HD from Masters so we're probably unofficially remastered from CD recordings or something. I'd have thought if they have been told to remove them they will probabaly be hit with a nice lawsuit too

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Reply #3 posted 07/21/14 6:42am

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Which albums were on there? They certainly weren't proper remasters. Possible now that official remasters are forthcoming, Warners asked for them to be taken down. That's the most likely scenario.

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Reply #4 posted 07/21/14 7:59am

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fnksoul said:

Looks like they have been taken off, I dont know how 'Official' they were

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Oh for crying out loud, HDTracks is a respectable site.

And they're still available here:

http://www.qobuz.com/fr-f...ing-albums

http://www.highresaudio.c...abid=94226

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Reply #5 posted 07/21/14 9:03am

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These releases are/were official. It is interesting that they are no longer available on HDTracks.com. They were gone pretty soon after this tweet:

https://twitter.com/Baron...1124583427

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Reply #6 posted 07/21/14 12:35pm

fnksoul

BartVanHemelen said:

fnksoul said:

Looks like they have been taken off, I dont know how 'Official' they were

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Oh for crying out loud, HDTracks is a respectable site.

And they're still available here:

http://www.qobuz.com/fr-f...ing-albums

http://www.highresaudio.c...abid=94226

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Would have took less effort to just say HDTracks is a respectable site, instead of coming across like a bellend as you do quite often... just saying.

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Reply #7 posted 07/21/14 12:36pm

fnksoul

bfunk said:

These releases are/were official. It is interesting that they are no longer available on HDTracks.com. They were gone pretty soon after this tweet:

https://twitter.com/Baron...1124583427

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Ah fair enough, is strange then that they have been taken down and even how they came about in the first place?

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Reply #8 posted 07/21/14 12:39pm

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fnksoul said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh for crying out loud, HDTracks is a respectable site.

And they're still available here:

http://www.qobuz.com/fr-f...ing-albums

http://www.highresaudio.c...abid=94226

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Would have took less effort to just say HDTracks is a respectable site, instead of coming across like a bellend as you do quite often... just saying.

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Reply #9 posted 07/21/14 12:44pm

ThomasBjj

fnksoul said:

Looks like they have been taken off, I dont know how 'Official' they were, I cant imagine they were Full HD from Masters so we're probably unofficially remastered/upscaled from CD/Vinyl recordings or something. I'd have thought if they have been told to remove them they will probabaly be hit with a nice lawsuit too

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^ You are clearly uninformed. Please preface this post with "I don't know what I'm talking about and can't be bothered to take 5 minutes to look into it... none the less, I'm going to post the following:"

thank you for your cooperation.

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Reply #10 posted 07/21/14 12:52pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

fnksoul said:

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Would have took less effort to just say HDTracks is a respectable site, instead of coming across like a bellend as you do quite often... just saying.

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[Snip - luv4u]



Reported.

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Reply #11 posted 07/21/14 1:08pm

fnksoul

BartVanHemelen said:

fnksoul said:

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Would have took less effort to just say HDTracks is a respectable site, instead of coming across like a bellend as you do quite often... just saying.

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Your entire post is full of SHIT YOU MADE UP about a WELL-KNOWN COMPANY, and you complain about DECORUM?

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If I were an admin I'd revoked your posting privileges for a week simply for posting such defamatory remarks.

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Get a life mate instead of hanging around on a Prince forum being bitter with everyone, theres giving someone something constructive to think about and then there is just trying to come across as you do constantly. I don't claim to know everything about Prince and I enjoyed looking at this forum at one point because there is alot of knowledgeable people even yourself but it seems there is always some sort of drama these days.

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If they were officially released and had been put out with consent all around, they probably wouldnt have been taken off. Its a Fact that HDTracks has and does use some Upscaled tracks and although they are upscaled, they will not be the quality you can get directly from the Master copy. That isnt to say they are not a legit site with a licence to use all the artists music on there.

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"For the last few years though, Chesky Records head David Cheskyhas been building HDTracks, a portal to buy extremely high fidelity digital albums. He and engineer Nick Prout spend a lot of time “auditioning” albums from all eras that can be upscaled to rates as high as 192kHz/24 bit. And not everything makes the cut"

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I think if you were admin youd revoke everyone's posting priveledges and just post things to yourself lol

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Anyway i'm not getting into a feud, I respect the fact you know alot but you dont need to make everything into an issue to share this knowledge smile

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Reply #12 posted 07/21/14 1:09pm

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You know, Bart, it's entirely possibly to correct somebody without the exasperated remarks, as if providing more detailed information somehow depletes your life energy.


What's with the constant condescension? If it upsets you so much, why post? Everyone else around here is perfectly able to provide more accurate information when they spot something perhaps less informed, without belittling the user in the process. As fnksoul pointed out - it would have been the exact same post from you, minus the first 5 words.

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Reply #13 posted 07/21/14 2:59pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

fnksoul said:

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Would have took less effort to just say HDTracks is a respectable site, instead of coming across like a bellend as you do quite often... just saying.

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[Snip - luv4u]

YAY BART VAN HEINEKEN STILL MAD AT WORLD


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Reply #14 posted 07/22/14 2:48pm

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At any rate, it's an encouraging sign - I was beginning to worry that they were only going to remaster and reissue Purple Rain.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #15 posted 07/22/14 4:05pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

fnksoul said:

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Would have took less effort to just say HDTracks is a respectable site, instead of coming across like a bellend as you do quite often... just saying.

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[Snip - luv4u]

[Uncalled for name calling bait - luv4u]

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The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
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Reply #16 posted 07/22/14 5:16pm

rap

Militant said:

You know, Bart, it's entirely possibly to correct somebody without the exasperated remarks, as if providing more detailed information somehow depletes your life energy.


What's with the constant condescension? If it upsets you so much, why post? Everyone else around here is perfectly able to provide more accurate information when they spot something perhaps less informed, without belittling the user in the process. As fnksoul pointed out - it would have been the exact same post from you, minus the first 5 words.

Why hasn't he been banned?

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Reply #17 posted 07/22/14 5:53pm

eyewishuheaven

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rap said:

Militant said:

You know, Bart, it's entirely possibly to correct somebody without the exasperated remarks, as if providing more detailed information somehow depletes your life energy.


What's with the constant condescension? If it upsets you so much, why post? Everyone else around here is perfectly able to provide more accurate information when they spot something perhaps less informed, without belittling the user in the process. As fnksoul pointed out - it would have been the exact same post from you, minus the first 5 words.

Why hasn't he been banned?

I certainly can't say why, but, editorial slants aside, he certainly delivers the facts.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #18 posted 07/22/14 11:24pm

rap

eyewishuheaven said:

rap said:

Why hasn't he been banned?

I certainly can't say why, but, editorial slants aside, he certainly delivers the facts.

With a side order of abuse!!

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Reply #19 posted 07/23/14 4:00am

fnksoul

eyewishuheaven said:

rap said:

Why hasn't he been banned?

I certainly can't say why, but, editorial slants aside, he certainly delivers the facts.

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But he does seem to think that just because they are a legit company they have the access to the Full high def recordings, one of the points I made is that they may not have been mastered from the original Masters, which is probably true because WB hasnt remastered them yet and only they have access to the original recordings. HDTracks are known to Upscale from the best available copies which isnt a remaster/highest quality but there is only so much you can do with a track thats already been mastered, they are essentially remastering music or playing with the eq's to enhance some sounds which have already been compressed/mastered rather than from the Raw track so there is a big difference in the finished article. Weather they are a well known company or not it doesnt mean that they operate within all boundaries but it could be there was an agreement with WB to sell the upscaled music a while ago (Because it does sound better) and now WB have pulled the plug on HDTracks with it in mind that they will be Digitally remastering them themselves. Who knows, its all speculation as is pretty much everything where Prince is concerned but they were there and now they are not, so something has obviously happened.

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If they put the track out as FLAC or what ever but just because something is a FLAC doesnt mean the highest quality, you can turn a 128kbs mp3 to FLAC but you still have the same crappy sounding 128kbs Mp3 just with a higher storage size.

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There is ways of people making a point without being rude, and its things like that, that drive people away or to Lurk instead of posting.

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(Note - Not everything on there will be an upscale but it's highly likely the alot is, but still far better quality than some original recordings already out there on CD/Vinyl)

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[Edited 7/23/14 4:08am]

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Reply #20 posted 07/23/14 6:06am

daPrettyman

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I hit the "Contact Us" tab on their site and asked why the albums were taken down. Here is my response:

The record label (Warner Brothers) no longer has the rights to the albums in high res.


Sincerely,
Stephan
HDTracks Support Team@
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Reply #21 posted 07/23/14 6:27am

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daPrettyman said:

I hit the "Contact Us" tab on their site and asked why the albums were taken down. Here is my response:

The record label (Warner Brothers) no longer has the rights to the albums in high res.


Sincerely,
Stephan
HDTracks Support Team@

interesting. i'm completely clueless on such matters as publishing or rights to masters etc.

but does this mean prince already has all his masters back at this point since he's taking

these things down? or is it only a publishing thing? (or are the two basically the same?).

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it sure would be nice to hear some more from either warners or prince about this new

deal they inked and about what (if any) remasters/reissues we can expect once they've

released the PR remaster (if that is even in the works anymore). it's frustrating that we

haven't heard any word from either side about all of this very exciting stuff.

/

instead we seem to be waiting until Plectrum Electrum finally gets a release, sinks away

into obscurity and then, perhaps, it's time for the remasters :/

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #22 posted 07/23/14 6:41am

fnksoul

daPrettyman said:

I hit the "Contact Us" tab on their site and asked why the albums were taken down. Here is my response:

The record label (Warner Brothers) no longer has the rights to the albums in high res.


Sincerely,
Stephan
HDTracks Support Team@

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Interesting, so it means P has them already or they are prepping for it in advance

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Reply #23 posted 07/23/14 7:18am

cosmoplastic

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Reply #24 posted 07/23/14 10:01am

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IstenSzek said:

daPrettyman said:

I hit the "Contact Us" tab on their site and asked why the albums were taken down. Here is my response:

The record label (Warner Brothers) no longer has the rights to the albums in high res.


Sincerely,
Stephan
HDTracks Support Team@

interesting. i'm completely clueless on such matters as publishing or rights to masters etc.

but does this mean prince already has all his masters back at this point since he's taking

these things down? or is it only a publishing thing? (or are the two basically the same?).

/

it sure would be nice to hear some more from either warners or prince about this new

deal they inked and about what (if any) remasters/reissues we can expect once they've

released the PR remaster (if that is even in the works anymore). it's frustrating that we

haven't heard any word from either side about all of this very exciting stuff.

/

instead we seem to be waiting until Plectrum Electrum finally gets a release, sinks away

into obscurity and then, perhaps, it's time for the remasters :/

I'm not sure about how it all works either.

From what I gather, with the new deal, Prince gets the rights to all of his recordings with WB.

There is a publishing right on the actual recording and a copyright on the song itself.

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Reply #25 posted 07/23/14 1:12pm

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daPrettyman said:

I hit the "Contact Us" tab on their site and asked why the albums were taken down. Here is my response:

The record label (Warner Brothers) no longer has the rights to the albums in high res.


Sincerely,
Stephan
HDTracks Support Team@

Thanks for finding that out, bro!

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Reply #26 posted 07/24/14 4:14pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

fnksoul said:

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Would have took less effort to just say HDTracks is a respectable site, instead of coming across like a bellend as you do quite often... just saying.

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[Snip - luv4u]

Dude, it's a fan site, not a fact checking championship. Stop putting down people for failing to know this and that, you're an idiot to feel the need to be so rude while delivering such trivial knowledge.

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Reply #27 posted 07/24/14 7:01pm

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rap said:



eyewishuheaven said:




rap said:






Why hasn't he been banned?




I certainly can't say why, but, editorial slants aside, he certainly delivers the facts.





With a side order of abuse!!



Let's stop making excuses on that basis. He wouldn't be tolerated in person because he's a classic bully who puts down people for no reason other than the fact they don't know wome Prince minutea. In a workplace or as a teacher somewhere, he'd be in trouble for his verbal abuse and outright hostility, it would not matter how much he knows. There are plenty of knowledgeable people here, we don't have to put up with him, not after so many warnings. He's getting worse, not better.
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