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Thread started 07/13/14 2:22pm

Gunsnhalen

Why Does Prince Lose His Women To Rock Stars?

Appolonia went to David Lee Roth (Van Halen singer 1978-84, Solo)
Vanity went to Nikki Sixx (Motley Crue bassist)

Sheila E. Went to Ringo Star
Wendy & Lisa went to Wendy & Lisa
Carmen Electra went to Dave Navarro (Janes Addiction guitarist)
Mayte went to Tommy Lee.


Why do you think this kept happening? do you think they were looking for someone taller? hairier? with more teeth?

Discuss.

[Edited 7/13/14 20:12pm]

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

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Reply #1 posted 07/13/14 2:33pm

morningsong

OK I had to laugh at Wendy & Lisa.

shrug once you get a taste of the thrill you've got to feed the addiction?

Mani's more reasonable?

Heck if I know.
[Edited 7/13/14 14:33pm]
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Reply #2 posted 07/13/14 2:49pm

eyewishuheaven

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Vanity went to Tommy Lee.

It's a textbook career move. "Ooh, look... she's bad now!" confused

[EDIT: I have the dumb. when you said Vanity, I thought you said Mayte. But my point still stands. lol]

[Edited 7/13/14 14:53pm]

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #3 posted 07/13/14 3:02pm

Gunsnhalen

eyewishuheaven said:

Vanity went to Tommy Lee.

It's a textbook career move. "Ooh, look... she's bad now!" confused

[EDIT: I have the dumb. when you said Vanity, I thought you said Mayte. But my point still stands. lol]

[Edited 7/13/14 14:53pm]

lol it's ok! so many Prince women razz hard to keep up sometimes.

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

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Reply #4 posted 07/13/14 3:05pm

Angelsoncrack

Maybe its because Prince is very effeminate in many ways?

And after Prince they feel like they want someone thats more uh..manly? I don't even know.

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Reply #5 posted 07/13/14 3:05pm

Gunsnhalen

morningsong said:

OK I had to laugh at Wendy & Lisa. shrug once you get a taste of the thrill you've got to feed the addiction? Mani's more reasonable? Heck if I know. [Edited 7/13/14 14:33pm]

lol idk... i think most of those rockers were just as crazy. Vanity & Nikki used to do heroin together eek

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Reply #6 posted 07/13/14 3:41pm

ethanthomas

lol, Prince didn't "lose" his women to any of them, they merely got his sloppy seconds.....

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Reply #7 posted 07/13/14 3:58pm

Gunsnhalen

ethanthomas said:

lol, Prince didn't "lose" his women to any of them, they merely got his sloppy seconds.....

Vanity & Sheila are sloppy seconds? you must be hittin that Heroin needle with Nikki & Vanity right now lol

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Reply #8 posted 07/13/14 4:46pm

mimi02

The reason is Prince.

What I thought was interested in why both his exes next relationships were with men who were known for there sexual prowess. And I could only come up with 2 possible reasons. Either sex with Prince is sooooo good that you have to get with someone like Tommy Lee or Eric Benet. Or sex with Prince is sooooo bad that you have to get with someone like Tommy Lee or Eric Benet. shrug

Sheila was with Ringo Starr?????

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Reply #9 posted 07/13/14 5:15pm

treehouse

Prince got Vanity off another Rock Star.

Shiela E. was bed hopping with rock stars, she's just dating her peers.

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But it stands to reason if you're drawn to not just sleeping with a celebrity, but dating them, and putting up with their insecurities, and narcisicism, then that's probably something inside you that makes you gravitate towards that. You also have the lifestyle, which is hard to walk away from.

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The real question is what qualities these women have that so many successful men find themselves drawn into, and letting their guard down for.

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Reply #10 posted 07/13/14 5:30pm

ethanthomas

treehouse said:

Prince got Vanity off another Rock Star.

Shiela E. was bed hopping with rock stars, she's just dating her peers.

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But it stands to reason if you're drawn to not just sleeping with a celebrity, but dating them, and putting up with their insecurities, and narcisicism, then that's probably something inside you that makes you gravitate towards that. You also have the lifestyle, which is hard to walk away from.

.

The real question is what qualities these women have that so many successful men find themselves drawn into, and letting their guard down for.

hmmm, what "Rock Star" did Prince get Vanity from? they met in 1980 and she was a virtual unknown in the industry.

None of them were famous until Prince made them famous!

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Reply #11 posted 07/13/14 5:55pm

mimi02

ethanthomas said:

treehouse said:

Prince got Vanity off another Rock Star.

Shiela E. was bed hopping with rock stars, she's just dating her peers.

.

But it stands to reason if you're drawn to not just sleeping with a celebrity, but dating them, and putting up with their insecurities, and narcisicism, then that's probably something inside you that makes you gravitate towards that. You also have the lifestyle, which is hard to walk away from.

.

The real question is what qualities these women have that so many successful men find themselves drawn into, and letting their guard down for.

hmmm, what "Rock Star" did Prince get Vanity from? they met in 1980 and she was a virtual unknown in the industry.

None of them were famous until Prince made them famous!

I think Vanity was with Rick James. Sheila played with a lot of well-known, established artists like George Duke before she became Sheila E. So, she really can't be lumped in with the others.

[Edited 7/13/14 17:57pm]

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Reply #12 posted 07/13/14 7:03pm

SoulAlive

No,she wasn't! I have never heard of Sheila being with any other rock stars,romantically.

treehouse said:

Shiela E. was bed hopping with rock stars, she's just dating her peers.

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Reply #13 posted 07/13/14 7:12pm

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mimi02 said:



ethanthomas said:




treehouse said:


Prince got Vanity off another Rock Star.


Shiela E. was bed hopping with rock stars, she's just dating her peers.


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But it stands to reason if you're drawn to not just sleeping with a celebrity, but dating them, and putting up with their insecurities, and narcisicism, then that's probably something inside you that makes you gravitate towards that. You also have the lifestyle, which is hard to walk away from.


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The real question is what qualities these women have that so many successful men find themselves drawn into, and letting their guard down for.



hmmm, what "Rock Star" did Prince get Vanity from? they met in 1980 and she was a virtual unknown in the industry.



None of them were famous until Prince made them famous!




I think Vanity was with Rick James. Sheila played with a lot of well-known, established artists like George Duke before she became Sheila E. So, she really can't be lumped in with the others.

[Edited 7/13/14 17:57pm]


Plus Sheila was Lionel Richie's Running With The Night girl. Bam!
What?
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Reply #14 posted 07/13/14 7:59pm

ethanthomas

mimi02 said:

ethanthomas said:

hmmm, what "Rock Star" did Prince get Vanity from? they met in 1980 and she was a virtual unknown in the industry.

None of them were famous until Prince made them famous!

I think Vanity was with Rick James. Sheila played with a lot of well-known, established artists like George Duke before she became Sheila E. So, she really can't be lumped in with the others.

[Edited 7/13/14 17:57pm]

As far as Vanity is concerned, i've never heard of any association with Rick James, Rick had the Mary Jane Girl's, but of course, Vanity was not in any configuration of that group.

Sheila E certainly got gigs and such before she came into Prince's organization, but no one would argue that it was during her association with Prince that she became a star in her own right. I've heard of no romantic involvement with George Duke or any others that she worked with musically before Prince, Sheila is a professional.

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Reply #15 posted 07/13/14 8:06pm

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Mayte did Tommy Lee aswell! lol

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And based on these guys sex tapes, Id say they were all looking for a bigger package, that's all. wink

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lol

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Reply #16 posted 07/13/14 8:22pm

SoulAlive

I had heard that Vanity was (briefly) dating Rick James,but soon left him for Prince.Ironically,when she left Prince,she wound up at Motown Records...which is where Rick was signed lol

ethanthomas said:

mimi02 said:

I think Vanity was with Rick James. Sheila played with a lot of well-known, established artists like George Duke before she became Sheila E. So, she really can't be lumped in with the others.

As far as Vanity is concerned, i've never heard of any association with Rick James, Rick had the Mary Jane Girl's, but of course, Vanity was not in any configuration of that group.

[Edited 7/13/14 20:23pm]

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Reply #17 posted 07/13/14 8:27pm

1contessa

I don't think that Prince lost any of them to rock stars. It seems that after their relationship were over, it was just the direction the women choose to go.

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Reply #18 posted 07/13/14 8:28pm

alphastreet

Gunsnhalen said:

Appolonia went to David Lee Roth (Van Halen singer 1978-84, Solo)
Vanity went to Nikki Sixx (Motley Crue bassist)

Sheila E. Went to Ringo Star
Wendy & Lisa went to Wendy & Lisa
Carmen Electra went to Dave Navarro (Janes Addiction guitarist)
Mayte went to Tommy Lee.


Why do you think this kept happening? do you think they were looking for someone taller? hairier? with more teeth?

Discuss.

[Edited 7/13/14 20:12pm]

Withdrawal sucks I suppose

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Reply #19 posted 07/13/14 8:38pm

SoulAlive

Sheila went to Ringo Starr

to play drums in his band! lol she wasn't dating him!! LMAO

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Reply #20 posted 07/13/14 8:40pm

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Soon is right. I heard that she arrived to an awards show with Rick and left with Prince.

SoulAlive said:

I had heard that Vanity was (briefly) dating Rick James,but soon left him for Prince.Ironically,when she left Prince,she wound up at Motown Records...which is where Rick was signed lol




ethanthomas said:




mimi02 said:




I think Vanity was with Rick James. Sheila played with a lot of well-known, established artists like George Duke before she became Sheila E. So, she really can't be lumped in with the others.





As far as Vanity is concerned, i've never heard of any association with Rick James, Rick had the Mary Jane Girl's, but of course, Vanity was not in any configuration of that group.



[Edited 7/13/14 20:23pm]

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Reply #21 posted 07/13/14 8:51pm

treehouse

SoulAlive said:

No,she wasn't! I have never heard of Sheila being with any other rock stars,romantically.

Well the OP seems to think so. Considering her whole family are musicians it wouldn't be a shock that she dated others.

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Reply #22 posted 07/13/14 8:54pm

treehouse

ethanthomas said:

As far as Vanity is concerned, i've never heard of any association with Rick James

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Every version of how Prince met Vanity involves Rick James.

I thought it was during their tour together, Prince stole her away.

Another version is that he did the whole "come with me, I'll make you a star" routine.

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Reply #23 posted 07/13/14 9:22pm

SoulAlive

treehouse said:

SoulAlive said:

No,she wasn't! I have never heard of Sheila being with any other rock stars,romantically.

Well the OP seems to think so. Considering her whole family are musicians it wouldn't be a shock that she dated others.

name the rock stars that Sheila has been romantically linked with (after Prince) lol hmmm

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Reply #24 posted 07/13/14 10:59pm

treehouse

SoulAlive said:

name the rock stars that Sheila has been romantically linked with (after Prince) lol hmmm

Why are you asking me? I'm working off the OP's premise she dated Ringo, for goodness sakes.

That said, between gods ears, and Shiela's tight yellow pants, I'd doubt Prince was the only musician she dated.

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Reply #25 posted 07/13/14 11:01pm

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Sounds like the women just don't want to go from an international music icon to dating joe regulars as soon as the relationship has ended.

I wouldn't say Prince is the "loser" in those scenarios in any case. Does anyone think guys like Nikki Sixx or Tommy Lee have the type of criticial acclaim and respect by other musicians as Prince does? Eric Bennett does have some, but not that much in the end. Besides many of these guys apparently had a Prince fixation themselves. Tommy Lee said in an interview that Prince was his favourite and it was mindblowing to hear all the stories Mayte told him about Prince. Eric Bennett's obviously tried to mimic Prince on a few songs (to a degree that it's actually silly, if you ask me).

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Reply #26 posted 07/13/14 11:09pm

ethanthomas

treehouse said:



ethanthomas said:



As far as Vanity is concerned, i've never heard of any association with Rick James



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Every version of how Prince met Vanity involves Rick James.


I thought it was during their tour together, Prince stole her away.


Another version is that he did the whole "come with me, I'll make you a star" routine.


I heard something to the effect of RJ wanting Vanity to join his camp before he created the MJ Girls, but she didn't (no contracts were ever signed), but the stories are not well sourced. I think it's safe to say that she was never officially in the RJ camp, so Prince didn't steal Vanity from RJ, Vanity chose Prince
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Reply #27 posted 07/13/14 11:33pm

peri1025

I have to agree with the posters who stated that it's likely because once you have a PRINCE you can just date a SERF. It probably also has to do with the fact that they still want some limelight to launch their business endeavors. It could also relate to sex and possibly how effeminate he is (although I've heard he's pretty manly one on one aside from the makeup, frills etc.).

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Reply #28 posted 07/14/14 2:38am

treehouse

ethanthomas said:

she was never officially in the RJ camp, so Prince didn't steal Vanity from RJ, Vanity chose Prince

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We're talking about dating though, aren't we?

The folklore is Prince stole Vanity from Rick during the American Music Awards, and I think the year attributed is 79', but that sounds off to me.

There are also stories she was just a groupie, and had been with Andre Cymone before Prince.

Also some questions about the timeline of when Vanity dated Adam Ant but his bio suggests it was before Rick James.

[Edited 7/14/14 2:39am]

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Reply #29 posted 07/14/14 3:10am

Militant

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You can't lose something if you've already gotten rid of it.

Prince ended those relationships. Those women did not leave him.

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