I'd love to see a list of those 100 songs! I wonder if "ExtraLovable" is on the list?

TrevorAyer said:

I dont want PR to turn into Graffitti Bridge .. I would rather have the Time Dez Apple tracks in their own separate package.

Would love to see the proper 1999 follow up PR should have been

CD 1

Lets Go Crazy 12"

Erotic City 12"

Take Me With You

The Beautiful Ones

Computer Blue Extended

Darling Nikki

When Doves Cry

17 Days

Another Lonely Christmas

I would Die 4 U

Baby I'm A Star

Purple Rain

God

CD 2

a pile of outtakes from that era such as electric intercourse and g spot and stuff we never heard of

CD 3

Birthday Show

CD 4

Benefit Show

DVD 1

Prince and the REvolution Live

DVD 2

Purple Rain the movie duh

^^^^^^^

THIS

nothing else, please... just this .. this is perfect...

Not to be greedy....but if Syracuse is a possibile DVD, I can't help but wish for maybe another professionally filmed show on the same tour. There's Altanta, though it is only one angle.

I have to admit, I find a lot of the Syracuse show, between the smoke effects and the lighting design, really dark and hard to see.

It would be more expense than Prince or WB would put out, but that whole concert could be recut from scratch, utilizing better camera angles (when they exist).

mushmackalenta said:

kewlschool said:

Most of those songs are just the same music used on the Purple Rain albums official release. Like there is "different" songs but at its core of some songs its Darling Nikki (Kind of like remixes but not.).

and how on earth do you know that?

I had a friend who played them for me-

I think they are known circulating songs. I can't remember any titles, but some one else here has surely heard them. I'm not saying all 100 songs sound like Purple Rain album(Because I haven't heard all 100 songs), just the 10 or 15 songs I did hear. Perhaps more songs-It's been like 20 years since I heard them. It was the first time I was introduced to "collector's" music. I was so shock that these things exists and still am. I'm naive what can I say?

LeGrinde said:

Not to be greedy....but if Syracuse is a possibile DVD, I can't help but wish for maybe another professionally filmed show on the same tour. There's Altanta, though it is only one angle.

I have to admit, I find a lot of the Syracuse show, between the smoke effects and the lighting design, really dark and hard to see.

It would be more expense than Prince or WB would put out, but that whole concert could be recut from scratch, utilizing better camera angles (when they exist).

How about we all stop giving P and WB bad ideas? All that stuff has to be rereleased EXACTLY AS IT WAS.

mynameisnotsusan said:

Yeah Al Magnoli said Prince gave him 100 songs fully produced to choose from. I would love to hear unreleased stuff rather than the more likely scenario of a compilation of b sides and extended mixes I already have.

Me too.

I could put together a set with all the 12 inches and B Sides myself.

The most encouraging thing is they did mention unheard songs.

I would think the Purple Rain reissue is already pretty much finalised if it's to get a June release.

Hopefully more info will be made available in the next few weeks.

mushmackalenta said:

mynameisnotsusan said:

Yeah Al Magnoli said Prince gave him 100 songs fully produced to choose from. I would love to hear unreleased stuff rather than the more likely scenario of a compilation of b sides and extended mixes I already have.

Me too.

I could put together a set with all the 12 inches and B Sides myself.

The most encouraging thing is they did mention unheard songs.

I would think the Purple Rain reissue is already pretty much finalised if it's to get a June release.

Hopefully more info will be made available in the next few weeks.

I don't see P giving anyone 100 songs "to choose from", I think this is mere gossip.

1/ Even though P certainly had 100 unreleased songs by 1983, they'd go back to 1978 and most of them, even revamped, wouldn't have any business being in PR.

2/ Prince composed and chosed the songs in PR loosely according to the movie script, it's not the script that was written according to a selection of songs AFAIK.

3/ All the songs on PR, IIRC, were new at the time (no vault tracks).

4/ Prince is a control freak and have an artistic vision: he certainly doesn't need anyone to pick his songs for him.

5/ The songs or PR form a very cohesive thematic and musical ensemble, it's not a random collection of tracks.

Just imagine P, as we know him, telling someone "here's 100 songs, pick-up what u dig and it'll be my next album". He did this only once, for Madhouse "24", which was a side-project and, once compiled and overdubbed by Eric Leeds, was so much something else that P decided it'd better be released as a Leeds solo album. I don't c him doing that for what was supposed to be his magnum opus at the time: he played his whole career over PR: either it'd make him a major star (which it did) or it would be an unforgetable stain of shame on his career.

databank said:

databank said:

Se7en said:

I personally don't want Sex Shooter, Modernaire, Jungle Love or The Bird on thsi re-issue. I want this to be Prince's landmark album and its B-sides. The Syracuse DVD would be an outstanding bonus.

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Two options for getting those related artists' music remastered and issued:

1. offer a download code within the package for the lossless files (for a limited time). Let fans add them to their playlists as they see fit.

2. do the same thing as above, but instead of including it in the audio package, you include it in a future remastered PR movie package.

NO! NO! NO! NO!

These tracks have no business being associated to the PR reissue in any way. They belong to the ICC and A6 and, for the last time, Dez Dickerson owns the masters to Modernaire (not that he wouldn't licence it but I doubt they'll bother asking him!)!

I think that you're actually agreeing with me, despite all the NOs! I don't want the related artists on the album in any way either.

mynameisnotsusan said:

databank said:

I don't see P giving anyone 100 songs "to choose from", I think this is mere gossip.

1/ Even though P certainly had 100 unreleased songs by 1983, they'd go back to 1978 and most of them, even revamped, wouldn't have any business being in PR.

2/ Prince composed and chosed the songs in PR loosely according to the movie script, it's not the script that was written according to a selection of songs AFAIK.

3/ All the songs on PR, IIRC, were new at the time (no vault tracks).

4/ Prince is a control freak and have an artistic vision: he certainly doesn't need anyone to pick his songs for him.

5/ The songs or PR form a very cohesive thematic and musical ensemble, it's not a random collection of tracks.

Just imagine P, as we know him, telling someone "here's 100 songs, pick-up what u dig and it'll be my next album". He did this only once, for Madhouse "24", which was a side-project and, once compiled and overdubbed by Eric Leeds, was so much something else that P decided it'd better be released as a Leeds solo album. I don't c him doing that for what was supposed to be his magnum opus at the time: he played his whole career over PR: either it'd make him a major star (which it did) or it would be an unforgetable stain of shame on his career.

It's not gossip or rumour. The producer and director of Purple Rain are on record as saying that is what happened on The Making of Purple Rain from the special edition DVD/bluray. I didn't just conjecture. Go look - I assume have a copy? Or are you saying they are both bullshitting?? Here's a blog online where some random guy talks about it. http://printmatic.net/a-j...bonus-dvd/

I believe you but I find their account of the events if not dubious at least very odd.

Se7en said:

databank said:

NO! NO! NO! NO!

These tracks have no business being associated to the PR reissue in any way. They belong to the ICC and A6 and, for the last time, Dez Dickerson owns the masters to Modernaire (not that he wouldn't licence it but I doubt they'll bother asking him!)!

I think that you're actually agreeing with me, despite all the NOs! I don't want the related artists on the album in any way either.

I understand but even the bonus downloads I'm against.

What we NEED is proper remasters of A6 and ICC, with non-album and bonus tracks and P's renditions of the songs. If fans the wanna compile a PR OST with songs from these albums then it's their problem, but what I mean is that A6 and IIC were full projects in their own rights, not just bastard offsprings of PR and despite their association with the movie.

This is the 2 disc set I've made:

Disc 1:

The original album, but with the 12" version of Let's Go Crazy instead of the album version, and the 7 minute version of Computer Blue instead of the album version.

Disc 2:

1. Re-reversed coda of Darling Nikki

2. Erotic City (12" version)

3. 17 Days

4. God (instrumental)

5. God (vocal)

6. I Would Die 4 U (12" version)

7. Another Lonely Christmas (12" version)

8. Electric Intercourse (from Aug 3 1983, not the rehearsal version.)

9. The Beautiful Ones (previously bootlegged long version)

10. Computer Blue ("hallway speech" version)

11. Darling Nikki (previously bootlegged long version)

12. Possessed (1984 version)

But there's got to be something on this upcoming set that we collectors have never heard before, right?

databank said:

novabrkr said:

Am I the only one not horrified by the idea of having a longer version of "Computer Blue" just included on the remastered album itself? Doesn't have to be the 12-minute version, but the additional verse and some of the guitar parts from the latter half would be nice.

It WILL be there (most likely the "short" long version from the pre-final PR config but if we get lucky maybe even a longer one)

The Purple Rain album is perfect as-is. I find any other versions of Computer Blue to be unnecessary.

PR is a loved work by more than just hardcore dorks and altering in any way would damage it for people who remember the tight, structured awesomeness that was the original album.

Ask the ladies. It's more about the width than the length.

ADDING things in the form of bonus tracks and extra discs is perfectly fine.

I've heard every common version of Computer Blue out there and other than hearing what he might have put out if not for space restrictions is interesting, but I think the song greatly benefits from the edits it received.

Of course, this is all my opinion.

errant said:

Uber Super Deluxe Version Disc 1: Full album as originally released Disc 2: 12" versions of singles & b-sides, plus the unedited versions of other tracks including TMWU, TBO, I Would Due 4 U, Purple Rain and Computer Blue (WITH the segue into Darling Nikki intact) that were trimmed down for release. Disc 3: unreleased songs and his versions of some stuff by the Time, Apollonia 6, Sheila E., Sheena Easton, et.al. (May need 2 discs). Disc 4: all the a-side/b-side edits DVD/Blu-Ray 1: the film DVD Blu-Ray 2: Syracuse DVD Blu-Ray 3: 8-3-83 (if it won't fit on the above)

AKA the "What we want" edition.

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The "What we get" edition will be the album remastered horribly loud, with a two or three 12" mixes previously released on CD and a DVD (yes, a D-V-D) of the movie, same edition that's already available. Maybe the 12" mixes will be vinyl rips for that full fucked-up treatment.

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I want to be so wrong, so utterly fucking wrong.

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[Edited 4/21/14 10:16am]

databank said:

mushmackalenta said:

Me too.

I could put together a set with all the 12 inches and B Sides myself.

The most encouraging thing is they did mention unheard songs.

I would think the Purple Rain reissue is already pretty much finalised if it's to get a June release.

Hopefully more info will be made available in the next few weeks.

I don't see P giving anyone 100 songs "to choose from", I think this is mere gossip.

1/ Even though P certainly had 100 unreleased songs by 1983, they'd go back to 1978 and most of them, even revamped, wouldn't have any business being in PR.

2/ Prince composed and chosed the songs in PR loosely according to the movie script, it's not the script that was written according to a selection of songs AFAIK.

3/ All the songs on PR, IIRC, were new at the time (no vault tracks).

4/ Prince is a control freak and have an artistic vision: he certainly doesn't need anyone to pick his songs for him.

5/ The songs or PR form a very cohesive thematic and musical ensemble, it's not a random collection of tracks.

Just imagine P, as we know him, telling someone "here's 100 songs, pick-up what u dig and it'll be my next album". He did this only once, for Madhouse "24", which was a side-project and, once compiled and overdubbed by Eric Leeds, was so much something else that P decided it'd better be released as a Leeds solo album. I don't c him doing that for what was supposed to be his magnum opus at the time: he played his whole career over PR: either it'd make him a major star (which it did) or it would be an unforgetable stain of shame on his career.

Agree 100%. There's no way in hell Prince would let some director pick his next album from a selection of 100 tracks.

Although, he might of meant that P wrote and recorded 100 songs for the film and they both went through and decided what would work best in the context of the movie.

databank said:

Se7en said:

I think that you're actually agreeing with me, despite all the NOs! I don't want the related artists on the album in any way either.

I understand but even the bonus downloads I'm against.

What we NEED is proper remasters of A6 and ICC, with non-album and bonus tracks and P's renditions of the songs. If fans the wanna compile a PR OST with songs from these albums then it's their problem, but what I mean is that A6 and IIC were full projects in their own rights, not just bastard offsprings of PR and despite their association with the movie.

Fair enough, but given the choice of Sex Shooter/The Bird/Jungle Love/Modernaire as bonus downloads or NOTHING else -- ever -- I'd choose to include the bastardized projects for just those songs that appeared on the soundtrack.

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The main point is: they have no business on the official Prince and the Revolution package.

dandan said:

databank said:

I don't see P giving anyone 100 songs "to choose from", I think this is mere gossip.

1/ Even though P certainly had 100 unreleased songs by 1983, they'd go back to 1978 and most of them, even revamped, wouldn't have any business being in PR.

2/ Prince composed and chosed the songs in PR loosely according to the movie script, it's not the script that was written according to a selection of songs AFAIK.

3/ All the songs on PR, IIRC, were new at the time (no vault tracks).

4/ Prince is a control freak and have an artistic vision: he certainly doesn't need anyone to pick his songs for him.

5/ The songs or PR form a very cohesive thematic and musical ensemble, it's not a random collection of tracks.

Just imagine P, as we know him, telling someone "here's 100 songs, pick-up what u dig and it'll be my next album". He did this only once, for Madhouse "24", which was a side-project and, once compiled and overdubbed by Eric Leeds, was so much something else that P decided it'd better be released as a Leeds solo album. I don't c him doing that for what was supposed to be his magnum opus at the time: he played his whole career over PR: either it'd make him a major star (which it did) or it would be an unforgetable stain of shame on his career.

Agree 100%. There's no way in hell Prince would let some director pick his next album from a selection of 100 tracks.

Although, he might of meant that P wrote and recorded 100 songs for the film and they both went through and decided what would work best in the context of the movie.

I think you're thinking of the Prince of now (or even the Prince of the late 80s). Prince of 1983 (remember, that's when the movie project started) did probably let the movie directors pick which songs they wanted.

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He probably gave them 100 songs total to choose from between Prince, Jill Jones, Dez, Apollonia and The Time. THAT seems much more believable and realistic to me, and maybe not something the director would differentiate because they mostly were all "Prince" songs.

NouveauDance said:

errant said:

Uber Super Deluxe Version Disc 1: Full album as originally released Disc 2: 12" versions of singles & b-sides, plus the unedited versions of other tracks including TMWU, TBO, I Would Due 4 U, Purple Rain and Computer Blue (WITH the segue into Darling Nikki intact) that were trimmed down for release. Disc 3: unreleased songs and his versions of some stuff by the Time, Apollonia 6, Sheila E., Sheena Easton, et.al. (May need 2 discs). Disc 4: all the a-side/b-side edits DVD/Blu-Ray 1: the film DVD Blu-Ray 2: Syracuse DVD Blu-Ray 3: 8-3-83 (if it won't fit on the above)

AKA the "What we want" edition.

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The "What we get" edition will be the album remastered horribly loud, with a two or three 12" mixes previously released on CD and a DVD (yes, a D-V-D) of the movie, same edition that's already available. Maybe the 12" mixes will be vinyl rips for that full fucked-up treatment.

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I want to be so wrong, so utterly fucking wrong.

Shudder!

[Edited 4/22/14 11:25am]

mynameisnotsusan said:

Yeah Al Magnoli said Prince gave him 100 songs fully produced to choose from.

Source? I have only read this here on this thread in your post.

Cinny said:

mynameisnotsusan said:

Yeah Al Magnoli said Prince gave him 100 songs fully produced to choose from.

Source? I have only read this here on this thread in your post.

He's said it a bunch of times, I think it's in dancemusicsexromance and on the commentary track of Purple Rain. I've never believed it though, especially the "fully produced" line, unless prince gave him his complete outtakes at that time or he's recorded a LOT more than we realise.

[Edited 4/22/14 11:46am]

jaawwnn said:

Cinny said:

Source? I have only read this here on this thread in your post.

He's said it a bunch of times, I think it's in dancemusicsexromance and on the commentary track of Purple Rain. I've never believed it though, especially the "fully produced" line, unless prince gave him his complete outtakes at that time or he's recorded a LOT more than we realise.

Oh, HAHA! I see what they mean. Back in fuckin' 1984... okay.

NoVideo said:

paulludvig said:

I bet it will be 2 CDs.

First CD - the original album. Remastered. No edits.

Second CD - All the b-sides (some extended) + a couple of unreleased track we've already heard. No songs written by others than Prince.

I'd imagine you are 100% correct.

Unfortunately, this is what I believe will happen aswell.

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P has never been a very giving person when it comes to releases.

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Vannormal said:

Sorry Databank, what you propse will never ever see the light of day.
No one will be interested in such a big 8 or ten cd/dvd package. And certainly not the majority of the buyers/public, will ever pay so much for a package so big.

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I really don't get this attitude. Have you lot not paid attention in the past years? There are far more elaborate deluxe releases out there for far less known bands. King Crimson released a 24 (twenty four!) disc ... one album!

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Also, there can be MULTIPLE CONFIGURATIONS, i.e. a cheaply priced 2/3 CD set for the average buyer and a super deluxe box set for the crazy fan who wants it all (in time for Christmas). Just look at the upcoming Led Zep box sets to see how many different releases you can squeeze per record, of the Rolling Stones in Hyde Park concert from last year.

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Why is it that P fanz fantasies run wild about the most ridonkulous shit ("P must have leaked these crappy bootlegs") yet are utterly void to actual possibilities?

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Of course, we won't get a super delxe set for the simple reason that P's an ass and this expanded/deluxe PR will be a quick moneygrabbing effort instead of a celebration of a landmark album. But let's not pretend that a multi-disc set is impossble.

BartVanHemelen said:

Vannormal said:

Sorry Databank, what you propse will never ever see the light of day.
No one will be interested in such a big 8 or ten cd/dvd package. And certainly not the majority of the buyers/public, will ever pay so much for a package so big.

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I really don't get this attitude. Have you lot not paid attention in the past years? There are far more elaborate deluxe releases out there for far less known bands. King Crimson released a 24 (twenty four!) disc ... one album!

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Also, there can be MULTIPLE CONFIGURATIONS, i.e. a cheaply priced 2/3 CD set for the average buyer and a super deluxe box set for the crazy fan who wants it all (in time for Christmas). Just look at the upcoming Led Zep box sets to see how many different releases you can squeeze per record, of the Rolling Stones in Hyde Park concert from last year.

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Why is it that P fanz fantasies run wild about the most ridonkulous shit ("P must have leaked these crappy bootlegs") yet are utterly void to actual possibilities?

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Of course, we won't get a super delxe set for the simple reason that P's an ass and this expanded/deluxe PR will be a quick moneygrabbing effort instead of a celebration of a landmark album. But let's not pretend that a multi-disc set is impossble.

however, i always get the impression that when groups or artists release a limited edition

superdeluxe set, they always sell out very quickly and they're pretty expensive. so to me

it always seems like they are a win-win situation.

take the ulta deluxe set of "Ghosts" by NIN, which you probably own. how many did they

make of those? i'm quite sure they were just about sold out at the pre-order stage.

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the thing with prince is that bigger releases, like crystal ball, tend to be executed poorly,

from the content right down to the packaging.

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my main cause for hope on these remasters is that they are (probably) being created in

partnership with Warners who will hopefully colaborate on packaging and content.

is LEGACY part of warners?

Longer versions of The Beautiful Ones and Purple Rain should not be released, as they were edited for good reasons. Releasing them actually diminishes the official versions....

Sometimes you don't want to know how things are done, if you know what I mean.