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Thread started 03/04/14 6:19pm

Fury

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Still waiting .. Classic or not?

Severely underrated jam... Very tender and heartfelt
[Edited 3/4/14 18:21pm]
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Reply #1 posted 03/04/14 8:11pm

FragileUnderto
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not

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #2 posted 03/04/14 8:15pm

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It's just okay. Pleasant enough, I suppose, but nothing special at all. In fact, it's on the boring side of average. It was a decent try on his part. Just didn't amount to much. It feels more like a continuation of the tedium found on For You.

Make It Through The Storm or Wouldn't You Love To Love Me would have been better suited for release.
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Reply #3 posted 03/04/14 9:47pm

thebanishedone

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Of course it is .Its so overlooked because of so many hits the man have.

He did amazing voice and piano live version in 2010.

If some other artists made it it would be their biggest hit song.

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Reply #4 posted 03/04/14 10:09pm

theblueangel

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I didn't recognize the brilliance of this song until probably the late 90's when for some reason I was listening to pre-Dirty Mind Prince...to me, this is easily the best song from the first 2 albums.

No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

Need more sleep than coke or methamphetamine.
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Reply #5 posted 03/05/14 1:49am

Thibaut

it's the best song on his 2nd album

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Reply #6 posted 03/05/14 2:29am

jaawwnn

It's in a weird spot on the album that works against it: you've just had 2 ballads followed by an all out rocker so you're really not wanting another ballad. When listened in isolation it's possible to really appreciate how great a song it is.

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Reply #7 posted 03/05/14 4:51am

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It's a brilliant tune. Perfectly crafted with a tender, swooning vocal that we can all relate to at some time of our lives.
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Reply #8 posted 03/05/14 5:49am

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I think it's a song that if anybody over the age of 35 heard him play at a concert they would go bananas and scream and say " that's my jam!"
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Reply #9 posted 03/05/14 6:06am

funksterr

Classic. It's one of the songs that built his reputation up. By today's standards I imagine for some it's easy to under-appreciate how cool the vibe of that song was. It's subtleties can be overlooked. But contrast that track to Prince's homage to Attention Deficit Disorder songs like "Why Should I Do That When I Could Do This" or "Joint to Joint" or "3 Chains O' Gold". or "White Mansion" or pretty much any of the songs, that by the second chorus wanders into the finer points of his contract situation, finances, religious differences, etc. "Still Waiting" is a bit blues, a bit country and a bit gospel but it maintains a cohesiveness thoughout and at no point does it feel forced or contrived. It's one of probably 10 early Prince songs that earned him a lot of respect as a composer and producer. Prince music was something to be appreciated, for those sophisticated enough to do so. Of course, today we know he had more help on that song than we were led to believe, but still, at the end of the day to whomever gets the credits go the glory. Prince got the producer credit. Still Waiting is a classic.

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Reply #10 posted 03/05/14 7:20am

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Classic - an early favourite of mine as a spotty teen when I was first getting into him and completing my cassette collection. Probably spoke to me as the notion that I'd ever have a bird at that point was beyond my comprehension!
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Reply #11 posted 03/05/14 8:48am

paulludvig

funksterr said:

Classic. It's one of the songs that built his reputation up. By today's standards I imagine for some it's easy to under-appreciate how cool the vibe of that song was. It's subtleties can be overlooked. But contrast that track to Prince's homage to Attention Deficit Disorder songs like "Why Should I Do That When I Could Do This" or "Joint to Joint" or "3 Chains O' Gold". or "White Mansion" or pretty much any of the songs, that by the second chorus wanders into the finer points of his contract situation, finances, religious differences, etc. "Still Waiting" is a bit blues, a bit country and a bit gospel but it maintains a cohesiveness thoughout and at no point does it feel forced or contrived. It's one of probably 10 early Prince songs that earned him a lot of respect as a composer and producer. Prince music was something to be appreciated, for those sophisticated enough to do so. Of course, today we know he had more help on that song than we were led to believe, but still, at the end of the day to whomever gets the credits go the glory. Prince got the producer credit. Still Waiting is a classic.

Are you making things up again?

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Reply #12 posted 03/05/14 9:10am

OldFriends4Sal
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Fury said:

I think it's a song that if anybody over the age of 35 heard him play at a concert they would go bananas and scream and say " that's my jam!"

lol I guess that sorta helps define 'classic'

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Reply #13 posted 03/05/14 9:32am

funksterr

paulludvig said:

funksterr said:

Classic. It's one of the songs that built his reputation up. By today's standards I imagine for some it's easy to under-appreciate how cool the vibe of that song was. It's subtleties can be overlooked. But contrast that track to Prince's homage to Attention Deficit Disorder songs like "Why Should I Do That When I Could Do This" or "Joint to Joint" or "3 Chains O' Gold". or "White Mansion" or pretty much any of the songs, that by the second chorus wanders into the finer points of his contract situation, finances, religious differences, etc. "Still Waiting" is a bit blues, a bit country and a bit gospel but it maintains a cohesiveness thoughout and at no point does it feel forced or contrived. It's one of probably 10 early Prince songs that earned him a lot of respect as a composer and producer. Prince music was something to be appreciated, for those sophisticated enough to do so. Of course, today we know he had more help on that song than we were led to believe, but still, at the end of the day to whomever gets the credits go the glory. Prince got the producer credit. Still Waiting is a classic.

Are you making things up again?

What are you talking about? What did I ever make up?

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Reply #14 posted 03/05/14 9:34am

paulludvig

funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

Are you making things up again?

What are you talking about? What did I ever make up?

Well, what is the source for your claim about Still Wainting?

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Reply #15 posted 03/05/14 9:40am

funksterr

Prince's second album had a producer. Prince took the guy's credit off the album right before release. It's an old story.

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Reply #16 posted 03/05/14 9:42am

funksterr

paulludvig said:

funksterr said:

What are you talking about? What did I ever make up?

Well, what is the source for your claim about Still Wainting?

[Edited 3/5/14 9:34am]

The guy gave interviews about the subject. It's pretty well covered in all the biographies.

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Reply #17 posted 03/05/14 9:47am

paulludvig

funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

Well, what is the source for your claim about Still Wainting?

[Edited 3/5/14 9:34am]

The guy gave interviews about the subject. It's pretty well covered in all the biographies.

The guy? What did "The guy" say?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #18 posted 03/05/14 10:28am

funksterr

paulludvig said:

funksterr said:

The guy gave interviews about the subject. It's pretty well covered in all the biographies.

The guy? What did "The guy" say?

I forgot his name. There are some interviews published about it. He speaks specifically about producing the "Prince" album and how he felt so disrespected by Prince, pulling his credits and other things, that he refused to return for it's follow up. That meant Prince had to find a new sound, from which the "Dirty Mind" record was created. So, if you are interested, hunt down his interview. But don't get mad at me just because you don't know the story, which was covered by Per Nielson and Uptown, and hell every Prince bio I ever read.

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Reply #19 posted 03/05/14 10:41am

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Fury said:

I think it's a song that if anybody over the age of 35 heard him play at a concert they would go bananas and scream and say " that's my jam!"


Which is exactly what happened when he played it in Vegas. nod

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Reply #20 posted 03/05/14 11:22am

paulludvig

funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

The guy? What did "The guy" say?

I forgot his name. There are some interviews published about it. He speaks specifically about producing the "Prince" album and how he felt so disrespected by Prince, pulling his credits and other things, that he refused to return for it's follow up. That meant Prince had to find a new sound, from which the "Dirty Mind" record was created. So, if you are interested, hunt down his interview. But don't get mad at me just because you don't know the story, which was covered by Per Nielson and Uptown, and hell every Prince bio I ever read.

Can anyone else confirm this story? There's nothing on PrinceVault suggesting that the "Prince" album was produced by anyone but Prince..

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #21 posted 03/05/14 6:09pm

3rdeyeboy

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paulludvig said:

The guy? What did "The guy" say?

I forgot his name. There are some interviews published about it. He speaks specifically about producing the "Prince" album and how he felt so disrespected by Prince, pulling his credits and other things, that he refused to return for it's follow up. That meant Prince had to find a new sound, from which the "Dirty Mind" record was created. So, if you are interested, hunt down his interview. But don't get mad at me just because you don't know the story, which was covered by Per Nielson and Uptown, and hell every Prince bio I ever read.


LOL. Santa Claus? Who is this phantom producer you speak of?

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Reply #22 posted 03/05/14 6:23pm

nursev

yes it is...part of the reason why the Prince album is my fav from him.
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Reply #23 posted 03/05/14 6:57pm

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It sounds like one of his Girlsongs, would have been great for Sheena Easton

"So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..."
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Reply #24 posted 03/05/14 9:29pm

funksterr

I recall reading two interviews with the guy over the years around the Musicology era. I really don't remember his name, but I'm sure the story isn't so hard to find. I'm not saying the guy wrote the song, just that he helped Prince with the production to the point that he was supposed to be credited as producer on the album, but Prince pulled his credit.

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Reply #25 posted 03/06/14 10:54pm

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funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

The guy? What did "The guy" say?

I forgot his name. There are some interviews published about it. He speaks specifically about producing the "Prince" album and how he felt so disrespected by Prince, pulling his credits and other things, that he refused to return for it's follow up. That meant Prince had to find a new sound, from which the "Dirty Mind" record was created. So, if you are interested, hunt down his interview. But don't get mad at me just because you don't know the story, which was covered by Per Nielson and Uptown, and hell every Prince bio I ever read.

So untrue.Prince changed his style because a)he was influenced by Rick James and his funk punk image.The Influence came from their tour together.b)Prince changed his sound

because he wanted to cross over.The Prince album was still treated

like rnb soul.Prince wanted to change that.

Back your talk with some source because the stuff you

wrote simply isnt trueand the only guy complaining was Andre because

he was not credited for his little vocal harmony line on Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad and the outro jam on I Wanna Be Your Lover which was based on some of Andres licks.

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Reply #26 posted 03/07/14 12:08am

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Still Waiting isn't "a classic",

But it's still a great song and a very great album... music

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Reply #27 posted 03/07/14 2:35pm

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thebanishedone said:

funksterr said:

I forgot his name. There are some interviews published about it. He speaks specifically about producing the "Prince" album and how he felt so disrespected by Prince, pulling his credits and other things, that he refused to return for it's follow up. That meant Prince had to find a new sound, from which the "Dirty Mind" record was created. So, if you are interested, hunt down his interview. But don't get mad at me just because you don't know the story, which was covered by Per Nielson and Uptown, and hell every Prince bio I ever read.

So untrue.Prince changed his style because a)he was influenced by Rick James and his funk punk image.The Influence came from their tour together.b)Prince changed his sound

because he wanted to cross over.The Prince album was still treated

like rnb soul.Prince wanted to change that.

Back your talk with some source because the stuff you

wrote simply isnt trueand the only guy complaining was Andre because

he was not credited for his little vocal harmony line on Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad and the outro jam on I Wanna Be Your Lover which was based on some of Andres licks.

Prince sounded closer to Gary Numan than Rick James on Dirty Mind. Rick James wasn't close to punk at all. I loved his music, but it was more of a gimmick than actually being inspired by the music genre. However Prince did seem a bit more like a punk musician here than Rick, with his less polished sound, Sister etc... alot more edge.

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Reply #28 posted 03/07/14 6:01pm

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Replica said:

thebanishedone said:

So untrue.Prince changed his style because a)he was influenced by Rick James and his funk punk image.The Influence came from their tour together.b)Prince changed his sound

because he wanted to cross over.The Prince album was still treated

like rnb soul.Prince wanted to change that.

Back your talk with some source because the stuff you

wrote simply isnt trueand the only guy complaining was Andre because

he was not credited for his little vocal harmony line on Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad and the outro jam on I Wanna Be Your Lover which was based on some of Andres licks.

Prince sounded closer to Gary Numan than Rick James on Dirty Mind. Rick James wasn't close to punk at all. I loved his music, but it was more of a gimmick than actually being inspired by the music genre. However Prince did seem a bit more like a punk musician here than Rick, with his less polished sound, Sister etc... alot more edge.

sorry but Rick invented punk funk style.its a well known fact

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Reply #29 posted 03/07/14 8:32pm

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It's a classic to me. In my hometown the local station played this just as much as I Wanna Be Your Lover.

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