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Thread started 02/09/14 3:21am

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Why has Prince never released a Post-Warners greatest hits package?

So how come there's no post warners greatest hits or "best of" album? Or; update the Hits and B-Sides to include some newer songs? I believe quite a few post warner tracks are lost gems and deserve wider exposure. I know a lot of you here like to hate on Prince's post warner output; and while it may not be perfect, I feel there is at least enough good songs to fill maybe a 15 song compilition. Thoughts?

While we're at it, what songs would you put on this compilition album. ('Cause why the hell not? biggrin )

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Reply #1 posted 02/09/14 4:03am

NouveauDance

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He did release an official post-Warners greatest hits package, it's called 'Most Beautiful Girl In The World CD Single'.

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Reply #2 posted 02/09/14 4:15am

SoulAlive

Let's be honest...he hasn't really had alot of "hits" since leaving Warners,has he? I see no purpose for a compilation of his singles released after 1996.

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Reply #3 posted 02/09/14 4:58am

nextedition

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Because he didn't have any hits?

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Reply #4 posted 02/09/14 4:59am

nextedition

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NouveauDance said:

He did release an official post-Warners greatest hits package, it's called 'Most Beautiful Girl In The World CD Single'.

lol

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Reply #5 posted 02/09/14 5:26am

LiveToTell86

nextedition said:

Because he didn't have any hits?

That, and the fact that greatest hits albums are label creations and contractual obligations. Artists don't really have interest in releasing them.

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Reply #6 posted 02/09/14 6:10am

NouveauDance

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LiveToTell86 said:

That, and the fact that greatest hits albums are label creations and contractual obligations. Artists don't really have interest in releasing them.

Except the ones Prince has worked on but scrapped over the years like 'When 2 R In Love' (a ballads collection) and 'The Very Best Of prince '

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Reply #7 posted 02/09/14 6:38am

EddieC

NouveauDance said:

LiveToTell86 said:

That, and the fact that greatest hits albums are label creations and contractual obligations. Artists don't really have interest in releasing them.

Except the ones Prince has worked on but scrapped over the years like 'When 2 R In Love' (a ballads collection) and 'The Very Best Of prince '

He's DID scrap them, though--indicating that he wasn't really interested (as in, wanting to pursue because it would be fun or rewarding), and there isn't a whole lot of financial interest involved for himt, either. It doesn't cost him much to record, he's not having to pay an artist for the work and then wanting to repackage it in different ways to make money from it over and over (the main reason we have greatest hits collections anyway, so addicts will pay full price--or more--for 1 or 2 new tracks out of 17). And even his diehard fans (and since people are still coming here after a quarter of a century of disappointment, clearly some people die VERY hard) can't be relied on to buy a package like that from those years. So he might as well throw new product at us to see if it sticks.

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Reply #8 posted 02/09/14 6:39am

Byron

I think it would be an excellent idea for him to do...only he shouldn't call it a "greatest hits" CD. Maybe just call it "Prince pt. 2: 1995--2010" or whatever.


Having a selective collection of his music over the past 15 years would concentrate his musical output to only his best stuff, unclutterd by the too-numerous less than stellar moments. They wouldn't need to only be released singles, either...just include any song--released or album cut. I bet a lot of people would be surprised at how much truly good music Prince has actually put out over that timespan.

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Reply #9 posted 02/09/14 7:44am

luvsexy4all

he said once that it would be liike charging fans twice for the same music

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Reply #10 posted 02/09/14 7:56am

funkaholic1972

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Calling it a "greatest hits" package would be stretching it, as there haven't been any real hits since 1995, but a "best of" would surely be a possible.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #11 posted 02/09/14 7:57am

thedance

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thedance said:

Here we go:


The Hits 1: (1978-1985)


1. "Soft and Wet" – 3:03
2. "I Wanna Be Your Lover" – 2:58 (single edit)
3. "I Feel for You" – 3:25
4. "Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?" – 3:48
5. "Uptown" – 4:09 (single edit)

6. "Dirty Mind" – 3:49 (single edit)
7. "Head" – 4:43
8. "When You Were Mine" – 3:43
9. "Controversy" – 3:35 (single edit)
10. "Do Me, Baby" – 3:57 (single edit)
11. "1999" – 3:37 (single edit)
12. "Little Red Corvette" – 4:56

13. "Delirious" – 2:39 (single edit)

14. "When Doves Cry" – 3:48 (single edit)
15. "Let's Go Crazy" – 4:39
16. "I Would Die 4 U" – 2:57 (single edit)
17. "Purple Rain" – 8:40

18. "Raspberry Beret" – 3:32
19. "Pop Life" – 3:42



The Hits 2: (1985-1992)


1. "Nothing Compares 2 U" – 4:58 (live)

2. "Kiss" – 3:46 (single edit)
3. "Mountains" - 3:58

4. "Girls And Boys" - 5:29

5. "Anotherloverholenyohead" - 3:58

6. "Sign "☮" the Times" – 3:43 (single edit)
7. "U Got the Look" – 3:47
8. "If I Was Your Girlfriend" – 3:46 (single edit)
9. "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man" – 3:40 (single edit)
10. "Adore" – 4:41

11. "Alphabet St." – 5:39
12. "I Wish U Heaven" 2:43

13. "Thieves in the Temple" – 3:20
14. "Gett Off" – 4:30
15. "Cream" – 4:13
16. "Diamonds and Pearls" – 4:20 (single edit)
17. "Sexy MF" – 5:26
18. "My Name Is Prince" - 4:05 (7" edit)
19. "7" – 5:09

Outtake: Pink Cashmere, Peach & Pope



The Hits 3: (1994-2001)


1. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
2. Letitgo
3. Space
4. Love Sign (prince with Nona Gaye)
5. Get Wild
6. I Hate U (Album version)
7. Dolphin
8. Gold (Album version)
9. Dinner With Delores
10. Betcha By Golly Wow
11. The Holy River
12. Somebody's Somebody
13. The One
14. Come On
15. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold
16. The Work part 1
17. She Loves Me 4 Me



The Hits 4: (2004-2010)


1. Musicology
2. Call My Name
3. Cinnamon Girl
4. A Million Days
5. Te Amo Corazon
6. Black Sweat
7. Fury
8. Song Of The Heart
9. Guitar
10. The One U Wanna C
11. Future Baby Mama
12. Somewhere Here On Earth
13. Dreamer
14. Crimson & Clover
15. Dance 4 Me
16. Beginning Endlessly
17. Sticky Like Glue

18. Future Soul Song

Imo: http://prince.org/msg/7/360884

[Edited 2/9/14 7:59am]

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Reply #12 posted 02/09/14 10:39am

Byron

For me, 1994-present:


Endorphinemachine

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

Pheremone

Letitgo

Calhoun Square

What's My Name

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

Crystal Ball

Holy River

Face Down

I love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore

Prettyman

When I Lay My Hands On U

A Taste Of U

Pearls B4 The Swine

The Work

Mellow

1+1+1 is 3

Don't Play Me

Circle Of Amour

Had U

She Loves Me 4 Me

Last December

I Like It There

When The Lights Go Down

Musicology

Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance

Lolita

Black Sweat

Call My Name

Colonized Mind

Dreamer


Hidden track - Don't U Wanna Fall In Love 2Night


[Edited 2/9/14 16:36pm]

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Reply #13 posted 02/09/14 11:32am

nayroo2002

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For me, 'Crystal Ball' was a nod at a "greatest non-WB hits collection according to me" package.

(up till '96-'97)

I'm positive it wouldn't be what everyone expected, at all.

Firstly, there is wayyyy too much more music up untill now to choose from!

It would be a nasty task to weed through all that stuff and pick just 20 great ones.

I mean this positively and honestly.

There would be the breaker for the ultimate argument about which songs were chosen by the man himself.

Right? lol

Prost!

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #14 posted 02/09/14 12:17pm

dbpdexter

If I'm not mistaken didn't he say on one of his old websites not to buy the very best of prince from warner because he was going to release a album of rerecorded hits but it never happened?

AKA PDEXTER
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Reply #15 posted 02/09/14 2:47pm

lezama

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thedance said:

The Hits 4: (2004-2010)



1. Musicology
2. Call My Name
3. Cinnamon Girl
4. A Million Days
5. Te Amo Corazon
6. Black Sweat
7. Fury
8. Song Of The Heart
9. Guitar
10. The One U Wanna C
11. Future Baby Mama
12. Somewhere Here On Earth
13. Dreamer
14. Crimson & Clover
15. Dance 4 Me
16. Beginning Endlessly
17. Sticky Like Glue

18. Future Soul Song

thats a good complilation, but its missing "Better with Time" which was another release.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #16 posted 02/09/14 3:09pm

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I've posted my compilation list before. It's a compilation of singles, b-sides, rarities and alternate mixes. This is the post Warner Brothers portion of the "singles" discs. (Post Chaos and disorder, there were some non-Warner Brothers singles released while he was still on Warner). It begins at track 5 on disc 10:

5 Come on-New Power Generation

6 The one-New Power Generation

7 Push it up-New Power Generation

8 Betcha by golly wow

9 The holy river

10 Somebody’s somebody

11 Face down (x-tended rap money mix)

12 Jam of the year (NYC live)

13 I can’t make u love me

14 Slave

15 The truth

16 Extraordinary

Singles 11

1 5 women

2 It’s about that walk

3 The rest of my life

4 The greatest romance ever sold (extended remix)

5 Man o’ war

6 Baby knows

7 1999 the new master

8 One song

9 Cybersingle

10 U make my sun shine (with Angie Stone)

11 She loves me 4 me

12 The work-part 1

13 Last December

Singles 12

1 Xenophobia

2 Days of wild (concert mix)

3 Supercute

4 Daisy chain

5 Peace

6 Pop life (live at Las Vegas)

7 Musicology

8 Cinnamon girl

9 Call my name

Singles 13

1 The war

2 NPG in this funky house / All the critics love u in Paris

3 Controversy (live in Hawaii)

4 Letitgo (live at Paisley Park)

5 Strange relationship (live)

6 Glasscutter

7 S.S.T.

8 Te amo Corazon

9 Black sweat

10 Beautiful loved and blessed (with Tamar)

11 Fury

12 Satisfied

Singles 14

1 The song of the heart

2 Guitar

3 Chelsea Rodgers

4 The one u wanna c

5 Future baby mama

6 Somewhere here on Earth

7 Crimson and Clover

8 Chocolate box (with Q-Tip)

9 Dance 4 me

10 Better with time

11 U’re gonna c me

12 4ever

13 Extralovable 2011

14 Rock N Roll love affair (original extended)

15 Screwdriver

16 Fixurlifeup

Singles 15

1 Ain’t gonna miss u when ur gone (with LeDisi)

2 Breakfast can wait

3 Pretzelbodylogic

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
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Reply #17 posted 02/09/14 4:32pm

therat

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Except for TMBGINTW song, he didn't have any hits. He could release a "Best Of", but not a "Greatest Hits".

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Reply #18 posted 02/09/14 10:13pm

itsjustaroundt
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NouveauDance said:

He did release an official post-Warners greatest hits package, it's called 'Most Beautiful Girl In The World CD Single'.

that TOTALLY cracked me up!

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Reply #19 posted 02/10/14 4:19am

callimnate

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NouveauDance said:

He did release an official post-Warners greatest hits package, it's called 'Most Beautiful Girl In The World CD Single'.


lol

Funny cause its true.

And the lists that the orgers are providing above remind me of the old saying "it's like watching a train wreck".

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Reply #20 posted 02/10/14 6:44am

Byron

callimnate said:

NouveauDance said:

He did release an official post-Warners greatest hits package, it's called 'Most Beautiful Girl In The World CD Single'.

lol Funny cause its true. And the lists that the orgers are providing above remind me of the old saying "it's like watching a train wreck". neutral

If you actually thought that you would have left the Org a looong time ago.

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Reply #21 posted 02/10/14 6:51am

OldFriends4Sal
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luvsexy4all said:

he said once that it would be liike charging fans twice for the same music

But that's where is promo is lacking. Greatest hits compilations are moreso for the 'casual' fan or the new converts, the people that are interested in getting into his music. They open them up to exploring his other music and albums

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Reply #22 posted 02/10/14 8:10am

lezama

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I think it'd be good for him to do a Best of because a lot of the material post-Warners isn't even available anymore, so he could be making additional revenue off of it all instead of having people find it all through bootlegs.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #23 posted 02/10/14 8:25pm

NoVideo

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1. Musicology

2. The Most Beautiful Girl in the World

3. Space

4. Come On

5. Cinnamon Girl

6. Black Sweat

7. Chelsea Rodgers

8. Betcha By Golly Wow!

9. The One

10. Beginning Endlessly

11. The 1 U Wanna C

12. The Work (part 1)

13. The Daisy Chain

14. Guitar

15. Laydown

16. F.U.N.K.

17. Dance 4 Me

18. Call My Name

1. Endorphinemachine

2. Shhh

3. Dark

4. Breakfast in Bed

5. She Loves Me 4 Me

6. Fury

7. Rock 'n Roll is Alive (and it lives in Minneapolis)

8. Get Wild!

9. Man o' War

10. Letitgo

11. Chocolate Box

12. Future Soul Song

13. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold

14. Better with Time

15. Somebody's Somebody

16. U Make My Sun Shine

17. Dreamer

18. Gold

* * *

Prince's Classic Finally Expanded
The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/
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Reply #24 posted 02/11/14 3:00am

NowhereMan

The truth is that the public want songs like:

When Doves Cry,

Kiss,

Purple Rain,

Raspberry Beret,

1999,

Little Red Corvette etc.

and the less casual fans are more interested in deeper cuts like:

Erotic City,

When You Were Mine,

If I Was Your Girlfriend,

She's Always In My Hair,

Controversy etc.

TMBGITW is the only song past 1994 most people would care about, there are some absolute gems on The Gold Experience but after Warners most people dont give a crap bar a handful of songs on Musicology/3121.

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Reply #25 posted 02/11/14 9:25am

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P wasn't in favor of WB releasing a best of in the first place and he only reluctantly agreed to the release of The Hits/The B-Sides. Obviously he finds the concept uninteresting. Knowing Prince I'd tend to say that he finds it too easy or unchallenging, + that "I don't look back" thing he keeps saying. Now why he does live what he won't do on records (greatest hits setlists) beats me lol

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Reply #26 posted 02/11/14 11:40am

luvsexy4all

..also he dont need it

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Reply #27 posted 02/14/14 1:59am

Se7en

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Almost everything the casual listener needs to know about Prince is on The Hits/B-Sides collection. If they want to round out their collection with a few full albums like PR, even better. I would say that (to the casual listener and the general world), there is no such thing as a post-Warner collection of hits.

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Reply #28 posted 02/14/14 3:36am

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databank said:

P wasn't in favor of WB releasing a best of in the first place and he only reluctantly agreed to the release of The Hits/The B-Sides.

No, dude was (as usual) stalling until WB got fed up and paid him a couple of million to get out of the way and let them handle it. Which resulted in us finally getting CD copies of numerous B-Sides -- yay!

Just remember: T's 12" collection was 5CDs of stuff that was mostly unavailable on CD, and T was also preparing an Associated Artists collection (did only do one "sampler" disc). Warners could have released so much more vinyl only stuff on CD over the years, but I bet Prince kept getting in the way

The lack of care for his back catalogue is a disgrace, and IMHO the main culprit is Prince, no one else.

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Reply #29 posted 02/18/14 4:31pm

Dilan

NouveauDance said:

He did release an official post-Warners greatest hits package, it's called 'Most Beautiful Girl In The World CD Single'.

LOOOOOOOOOL

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
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