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Thread started 11/04/13 12:11pm

renfield

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Jean-Paul Gaultier's proposed costume for Prince in "The 5th Element"

Funny story from Gaultier about trying to impress Prince with his costume designs for The 5th Element. Honestly, I have to admit I never knew Prince was really ever supposed to be in the movie (in the Ruby Rhod role, ultimately played perfectly by Chris Tucker), much less how far along the idea got...

http://io9.com/fifth-elem...socialflow

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Reply #1 posted 11/04/13 12:25pm

Byron

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Reply #2 posted 11/04/13 12:38pm

OldFriends4Sal
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what year was this?

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Reply #3 posted 11/04/13 12:42pm

LadyZsaZsa

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Reply #4 posted 11/04/13 1:15pm

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It's an inspired casting choice, but I don't think he could have pulled off that role. As great a musician as Prince is, he just isn't an actor. An actor has to be able to cast off inhibitions, and submerge fully into a role. They also have to collaborate with the creative team, and be open to compromises and negotiation. All that aside, I think it would have been cool to see him in this role. He would have brought a completely different quality to the character than the choices Chris Tucker made, and maybe some music to the soundtrack. It would have been a mess, but an interesting mess. By the by, Bruce Willis and Milla Jovovich are a better casting than Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts.

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Reply #5 posted 11/04/13 1:29pm

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I doubt Prince would have taken a role as a comic relief sidekick unless it was written differently for Chris Tucker. He may have done it if Ruby Rhod was computer generated hologram that didn't interact with any of the other characters.

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Reply #6 posted 11/04/13 1:29pm

renfield

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OldFriends4Sale said:

what year was this?

The drawings are stamped July 1992, which would explain Prince dismissing the costumes as "too effeminate." This was during the height of his Tony M/gun mic/chain hat/macho era where he tried to go harder to reclaim a post-gangsta rap urban fanbase.

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Reply #7 posted 11/04/13 1:42pm

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"too effeminate."
Really? He looks like an overgrown penis.
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Reply #8 posted 11/04/13 2:33pm

SoulAlive

it looks like something that Cher would wear during one of her shows lol

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Reply #9 posted 11/04/13 4:05pm

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renfield said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

what year was this?

The drawings are stamped July 1992, which would explain Prince dismissing the costumes as "too effeminate." This was during the height of his Tony M/gun mic/chain hat/macho era where he tried to go harder to reclaim a post-gangsta rap urban fanbase.

Hell yeah, cause he'd have totally rocked that outfit had they offered him that part during his Dirty Mind days. lol

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Reply #10 posted 11/04/13 4:34pm

chopingard

That would have been Intresting if he had actually played it all deep voiced and seductive rather than big and camp like Chris Tucker. Kinda monotone and hypnotic

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Reply #11 posted 11/04/13 6:46pm

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Prince stories r always a hoot. Probably because of the difference between 'him' and the 'him' he portrays. Most don't pull this crazy image of him out their ass...it usually comes from stuff he's put out there...and his reactions to his own creations amuse me to no end.
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Reply #12 posted 11/05/13 12:17am

Vannormal

OldFriends4Sale said:



what year was this?



1992-93
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #13 posted 11/05/13 12:31am

Vannormal

You know, I just looooove stories like this.
I love it as much as songs. As a fan I can't get enough of these small realities.
One can not 'grab' or hold these moments in Prince's life just like his songs.
We can only listen to them but never be part of their creation or reality...

I laughed so hard when trying to imagine the encounter between him and Jean Paul Gaultier... "Faux cul" biggrin)))))

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Behold, The Fifth Element costume concept art that Prince thought was "too effeminate" for him. Amazing.

Before Chris Tucker stole the show as Ruby Rhod in Luc Besson's The Fifth Element, the role was offered to another celebrity, Prince.
And while it makes perfect sense that the role of the androgynous, sexual firecracker would be offered to Prince, we could never picture what he would have looked like in the role.. until now.

Thanks to The Brooklyn Museum's fantastic new exhibit featuring the mind-blowing work of artist (and Fifth Element costume designer) Jean Paul Gaultier, we got a glimpse of Prince as Ruby Rhod.
A collection of Gaultier's illustrations for his work on the film were displayed in the exhibit along with this absolutely fantastic story straight form the designer himself, which also revealed that Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts were originally cast as the lead roles.


One of the thousand costumes in The Fifth Element, I took my inspiration for many of them from my own collections. Filming was originally planned for 1992, with Julia Roberts, Mel Gibson and Prince in the leading roles but due to a lack of financing the project was put on hold. At that time, the role of Ruby Rhod, the outrageous media personality finally played by Chris Tucker, had been given to Prince.

When the singer was giving a series of concerts in Paris, Luc Besson wanted us both to meet with him to show him my sketches. Prince had already attended my runway shows, but he came and went very quickly every time, so we had never been formally introduced. While I was waiting for Luc in his office, I saw this huge bodyguard appear, with Prince trailing behind him. As Luc hasn't yet arrived, I thought he must have wanted me to meet with Prince alone, so we could get to know each other a little bit. In broken English, and with my strong French accent, I tried my best to make conversation, something like "Hell-O Prin-ze, welcome to Par-isse! So for ze role I sink…"

I showed him my drawings, but he didn't say a word. I had had an idea for a really funny costume with netting which quite long body hair would pass through, and I had done front and back versions of it. So then I explained to Prince: "Eet eel fake 'air, you know, and eet eel beaucoup, beaucoup, airy, vraiment fun, and ze back is made of sat, and on ze back were eez ze faux cul, you know, a very big faux cul." and I slapped my buttocks to show him how the back of the costume would be designed.

Still not saying anything, Prince gave me this Charlie Chaplin kind of look. I could see that something had just happened, but I didn't know what, only that he had indicated to his body guard that he wanted to leave right then and there. I thought he was going to go and see Luc. Later, Luc told me that Prince had been very surprised and amused — by my presentation, but that he found the costumes a bit too effeminate. And, most importantly, he had thought he head [url]"Fuck you, fuck you!" when I was saying in my terrible English accent "faux cul, faux cul" [fake ass]!

—Jean Paul Gaultier
The Fashion World of Jean Paul Gaultier: From the Sidewalk to the Catwalk runs from October 25th to February 23rd, 2014, at the Brooklyn Museum. The exhibit is absolutely fantastic and we highly recommend this immersive and exceptionally curated experience.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #14 posted 11/05/13 1:29am

novabrkr

A complete misunderstanding of what Prince's image is about. Stupid and embarrassing.

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Reply #15 posted 11/05/13 4:54am

OldFriends4Sal
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This is Prince (Gold Era)

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Reply #16 posted 11/05/13 5:40am

frazetta

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Be sure and check out the other pics thread of him in a speedo, rollerskates and thong-kini while surrounded by his NPG pseudo thugs. The drawings above make him look like a regular masculine Joe The Plumber compared to his pool side attire.

renfield said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

what year was this?

The drawings are stamped July 1992, which would explain Prince dismissing the costumes as "too effeminate." This was during the height of his Tony M/gun mic/chain hat/macho era where he tried to go harder to reclaim a post-gangsta rap urban fanbase.

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Reply #17 posted 11/05/13 8:33am

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That's cool that Prince was wanted for the part. The costume is kind of off though, Prince would've looked like a Muppet tranny hooker. Not sure he has the presence and energy levels for what Chris Tucker put into that role either.

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Reply #18 posted 11/05/13 9:44am

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Awesome, entertaining story.

I'm sure glad things turned out the way they did, though - Chris, Bruce and Milla kicked ass!

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #19 posted 11/05/13 1:09pm

LittleBear

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Wow... lol

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Reply #20 posted 11/05/13 1:27pm

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novabrkr said:

A complete misunderstanding of what Prince's image is about. Stupid and embarrassing.

How so?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #21 posted 11/05/13 4:32pm

SoulAlive

It's a good thing that Prince turned this role down.I think he would have been ridiculed if he had done it,with that absurd costume on lol

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Reply #22 posted 11/05/13 11:42pm

novabrkr

paulludvig said:

novabrkr said:

A complete misunderstanding of what Prince's image is about. Stupid and embarrassing.

How so?

Prince is not submissive.

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Reply #23 posted 11/06/13 7:21am

LadyZsaZsa

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novabrkr said:



paulludvig said:




novabrkr said:


A complete misunderstanding of what Prince's image is about. Stupid and embarrassing.





How so?




Prince is not submissive.


Really? I've always believed that I could have my way with him. The drawing however, looks like a pervert. lol shrug
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