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Thread started 09/23/13 10:21am

thisisreece

Lolita possibly influenced by the Kubrick movie/Nabokov novel?

Just wondering. Especialy with lyrics like 'You're much too young to peep my stash'.

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Reply #1 posted 09/23/13 10:47am

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That is where the popular use of the phrase comes from yep.

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Reply #2 posted 09/23/13 12:38pm

thisisreece

Really? I've never heard the term outside of the movie/book/song. Never knew it was a thing.

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Reply #3 posted 09/23/13 1:24pm

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I don't know if Prince ever read/saw the book/film (I've seen the film long ago) but"Lolita" has become proverbial for "young girl seducing old man". My main problem with this song is that, just like in What Do U Want Me 2 Do from the otherwise excellent Musicology LP, Prince seems to put the blame solely on the young girl. She's just bad for coming on to a innocent like him. That's a bit strong coming from someone who wrote stuff like Hot Thing and Let's Pretend We're Married and...well, you know what I mean...
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Reply #4 posted 09/23/13 2:10pm

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jeez...it's just a song, not a confessional.

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Reply #5 posted 09/23/13 2:18pm

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Well...yeah. That's pretty much self-evident. At least, the concept/nomenclature "Lolita" came from, as The Police sang in "Don't Stand So Close Me", music that old book by Nabakov music

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Reply #6 posted 09/23/13 2:26pm

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thisisreece said:

Really? I've never heard the term outside of the movie/book/song. Never knew it was a thing.

In popular language a "lolita" means a very hot, very young, (and usually very thin, too) girl.

Where u been? eek

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Reply #7 posted 09/23/13 3:31pm

thisisreece

databank said:

thisisreece said:

Really? I've never heard the term outside of the movie/book/song. Never knew it was a thing.

In popular language a "lolita" means a very hot, very young, (and usually very thin, too) girl.

Where u been? eek

Under a rock apparently. doh!

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Reply #8 posted 09/23/13 5:25pm

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SuperSoulFighter said:

I don't know if Prince ever read/saw the book/film (I've seen the film long ago) but"Lolita" has become proverbial for "young girl seducing old man". My main problem with this song is that, just like in What Do U Want Me 2 Do from the otherwise excellent Musicology LP, Prince seems to put the blame solely on the young girl. She's just bad for coming on to a innocent like him. That's a bit strong coming from someone who wrote stuff like Hot Thing and Let's Pretend We're Married and...well, you know what I mean...
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Wow...hes blaming a chick for being cute...how evil.

Its a ditty about older man younger girl fantasies...that exist in BOTH sexes. Theres no 'blame' placed on the girl. He acknowledges it would be hot, she thinks so to. He wisens up and uses experience to say it wouldnt play out well in the end, but thinking about it was fun. He faults both of their overactive sexual desires...the chick isnt blamed for it.

Its not even a usery approach...some of the experiences r shared experiences like dancing like frank and ava...

I unno...thats just how i see it.
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Reply #9 posted 09/23/13 8:17pm

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SuperSoulFighter said:

I don't know if Prince ever read/saw the book/film (I've seen the film long ago) but"Lolita" has become proverbial for "young girl seducing old man". My main problem with this song is that, just like in What Do U Want Me 2 Do from the otherwise excellent Musicology LP, Prince seems to put the blame solely on the young girl. She's just bad for coming on to a innocent like him. That's a bit strong coming from someone who wrote stuff like Hot Thing and Let's Pretend We're Married and...well, you know what I mean... [Edited 9/23/13 13:25pm] [Edited 9/23/13 13:26pm]

You might be reading more in to the "blame" psychology than is warranted. I think the age of the girls in these songs is irrelevant. The difference between the later and earlier songs cited is that he was a married man when he wrote the more recent tracks. Hence the, "You'll never make a cheater out of me" and "Shame on you, baby. Can't you see this ring?" lyrics.

"I Was FINE Back in the Day!"
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Reply #10 posted 09/24/13 4:56am

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Prince doesn't read anything but the Bible.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #11 posted 09/24/13 5:51am

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SuperSoulFighter said:
I don't know if Prince ever read/saw the book/film (I've seen the film long ago) but"Lolita" has become proverbial for "young girl seducing old man". My main problem with this song is that, just like in What Do U Want Me 2 Do from the otherwise excellent Musicology LP, Prince seems to put the blame solely on the young girl. She's just bad for coming on to a innocent like him. That's a bit strong coming from someone who wrote stuff like Hot Thing and Let's Pretend We're Married and...well, you know what I mean... [Edited 9/23/13 13:25pm] [Edited 9/23/13 13:26pm]
Wow...hes blaming a chick for being cute...how evil. Its a ditty about older man younger girl fantasies...that exist in BOTH sexes. Theres no 'blame' placed on the girl. He acknowledges it would be hot, she thinks so to. He wisens up and uses experience to say it wouldnt play out well in the end, but thinking about it was fun. He faults both of their overactive sexual desires...the chick isnt blamed for it. Its not even a usery approach...some of the experiences r shared experiences like dancing like frank and ava... I unno...thats just how i see it.

I read it the same way

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Reply #12 posted 09/24/13 7:54am

thisisreece

Phishanga said:

Prince doesn't read anything but the Bible.

lol

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Reply #13 posted 09/24/13 9:01am

Caroke

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Prince doesn't read anything but the Bible.



But he watched the movie! lol

(no, this is NOT a verified fact)

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Reply #14 posted 09/24/13 12:52pm

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...he didn't see the movie,'cuz he hadn't read the book first.
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Reply #15 posted 09/24/13 1:04pm

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thisisreece said:

Really? I've never heard the term outside of the movie/book/song. Never knew it was a thing.

For a long time, Amy Fisher was called the Lethal Lolita back in the early 90s.

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Reply #16 posted 09/24/13 2:13pm

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I have this movie on DVD..it's been a while since I watched but the male character that has a crush on Lolita writes her a poem in which he rhymed "Lolita" and "Sweeta"...and if I remember she found it rather foolish...I'll try 2 find the words...

well, checked. He's actually reading her someone else's poem (that has a rhyme with the words "vista" and "sister") to which she said: " I think its a little corny the "vista-sister", that's like "Lolita-sweeta"

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Reply #17 posted 10/23/13 12:11am

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Umma lots of Interesting thoughts, even down to the last post and events or movies and DVDS that could be relatable, however I think it was inspired, and maybe song about the young lady he fancied at that time in his life.

Cause she was a fan,
Well peace and love

Fellas how bad is th:at girl, as bad as she can be " THEN DANCE"

She's Fantastic~
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