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Thread started 09/05/13 2:23am

MattyJam

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Into The Light/I Will adoration thread.

Into The Light and I Will are probably in my top 10 Prince songs ever. They really are that good. Everything about them is just magic. The way Into The Light opens with that delicate piano, Rosie's backing vocals on the second chorus, that brilliant sax and guitar solo before effortlessly going into I Will, which is surely one of Prince's most sincere ballads lyrically speaking. No trace of ego, just a genuine display of reassurance to a friend.

Musically, it contains some of Prince's best lead guitar work and again, Rosie's harmonising is chilling. Rosie Gaines is the best singer Prince has ever worked with by a mile and these two songs are evidence of that. I really cannot over-emphasise how much I love these two songs.

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Reply #1 posted 09/05/13 3:51am

Javi

Frankly, I don't remember much of these songs, I have forgotten almost everything about Chaos And Disorder, but your post makes me want to give them another listen, so thank you.

[Edited 9/5/13 5:50am]

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Reply #2 posted 09/05/13 4:01am

MattyJam

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Javi said:

Frankly, I don't remember much of these songs, I have forgotten almost everything about Chaos And Disorder, but your post makes want to give them another listen, so thank you.

Yeah, seriously, you really shouldn't sleep on these two tracks. Two of his most inspired pieces IMO.

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Reply #3 posted 09/05/13 4:13am

SpiritOtter

It would be interesting to know when Dolphin was recorded and when Into The Light was recorded. I also recall reading an interview around that mid-Gold era time where Prince was reading a book with a title similar to Into The Light. Many of the songs of this ilk recorded at that time seemed to feature aspects related to reincarnation or other spiritual planes (rather than a strict Christian viewpoint), possibly as a psychological escape valve and hopeful means of transcending the internal/external struggles he was experiencing at the time with his Warner Brothers as well as his own/the public perception of his identity. It was as if he needed to "rise" above the situation and spirituality from an Eastern perspective seemed to provide a valuable source for him to look towards for inspiration. Of course, I could be reading too much into it, but there definitely appeared to be an interest peaking around this time. I was also interested in the fact that Prince cited Goddess Lakshmi around the Musicology era as a potential source for enlightenment, especially given his JW conversion. But it gave me hope that he perhaps wasn't as closed minded as some of the critiques (or the TRC narrator) would have us believe.

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Reply #4 posted 09/05/13 5:14am

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SpiritOtter said:

It would be interesting to know when Dolphin was recorded and when Into The Light was recorded. I also recall reading an interview around that mid-Gold era time where Prince was reading a book with a title similar to Into The Light. Many of the songs of this ilk recorded at that time seemed to feature aspects related to reincarnation or other spiritual planes (rather than a strict Christian viewpoint), possibly as a psychological escape valve and hopeful means of transcending the internal/external struggles he was experiencing at the time with his Warner Brothers as well as his own/the public perception of his identity. It was as if he needed to "rise" above the situation and spirituality from an Eastern perspective seemed to provide a valuable source for him to look towards for inspiration. Of course, I could be reading too much into it, but there definitely appeared to be an interest peaking around this time. I was also interested in the fact that Prince cited Goddess Lakshmi around the Musicology era as a potential source for enlightenment, especially given his JW conversion. But it gave me hope that he perhaps wasn't as closed minded as some of the critiques (or the TRC narrator) would have us believe.

I didn't know about her. I've read that she's usually portraid on a lotus flower. Another clue then?

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Reply #5 posted 09/05/13 5:33am

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I always wished these two songs had made it onto The Gold Experience, perhaps replacing We March. They are both such beautiful songs, it's a real shame they were buried on C&D (Which I love and all, but these songs dont really fit the vibe of that album)

Purple is the color of my heart,
Bruised from you leaving me.
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Reply #6 posted 09/05/13 6:29am

databank

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SpiritOtter said:

It would be interesting to know when Dolphin was recorded and when Into The Light was recorded. I also recall reading an interview around that mid-Gold era time where Prince was reading a book with a title similar to Into The Light. Many of the songs of this ilk recorded at that time seemed to feature aspects related to reincarnation or other spiritual planes (rather than a strict Christian viewpoint), possibly as a psychological escape valve and hopeful means of transcending the internal/external struggles he was experiencing at the time with his Warner Brothers as well as his own/the public perception of his identity. It was as if he needed to "rise" above the situation and spirituality from an Eastern perspective seemed to provide a valuable source for him to look towards for inspiration. Of course, I could be reading too much into it, but there definitely appeared to be an interest peaking around this time. I was also interested in the fact that Prince cited Goddess Lakshmi around the Musicology era as a potential source for enlightenment, especially given his JW conversion. But it gave me hope that he perhaps wasn't as closed minded as some of the critiques (or the TRC narrator) would have us believe.

We do:

Doplhin's basic tracks r from 2 January 1993 (http://www.princevault.co...hp/Dolphin)

Into The Light's basic tracks are from February 1996 (http://princevault.com/in..._The_Light)

I always loved that Into The Light/I WIll sequencing too biggrin biggrin

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Reply #7 posted 09/05/13 6:39am

timmie

It is interesting to note that on the 3121.com website the tracks were one of the few streamed and were joined together as if they were one song

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Reply #8 posted 09/05/13 6:44am

SpiritOtter

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It is interesting to note that on the 3121.com website the tracks were one of the few streamed and were joined together as if they were one song

In a somewhat similar vein to Marrying Kind and If Eye Was The Man, but even more so, it is easier to just track/include them together as one suite. One does not quite feel right without the other.
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Reply #9 posted 09/05/13 6:45am

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Has he ever performed Into The Light or I Will live?
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Reply #10 posted 09/05/13 6:47am

SpiritOtter

databank by name, databank by nature. Thank you, databank. To my knowledge, matty, no live outings.
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Reply #11 posted 09/05/13 9:42am

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SpiritOtter said:

databank by name, databank by nature. Thank you, databank. To my knowledge, matty, no live outings.

I wouldn't b worth a dime if Per Nielsen and the gang and Boris and a couple of others hadn't done all the dirty work b4 my time wink

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Reply #12 posted 09/05/13 9:45am

RodeoSchro

Absolutely love them both, and the fact that they are a "set" is just awesome.

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Reply #13 posted 09/05/13 9:55am

novabrkr

Hmmm. February 1996? He was already working on the Emancipation material by that point. Most of the Emancipation stuff has a different overall sound, so I'm a bit surprised to find about the recording date.

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Reply #14 posted 09/05/13 10:00am

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novabrkr said:

Hmmm. February 1996? He was already working on the Emancipation material by that point. Most of the Emancipation stuff has a different overall sound, so I'm a bit surprised to find about the recording date.

Prince finished C&D in early 1996, it's not the only song to have been recorded or finished at this time, chack Princevault 4 details. He was indeed working on Emancipation as well but u know the dude, he will often handle 2 or 3 rjects at a time.

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Reply #15 posted 09/05/13 11:09am

novabrkr

I just always thought there was something of a change in the way Prince wrote, arranged and recorded songs in overall around the time of the Emancipation. Sure, Emancipation has also tracks like Saviour on it that sound more like TGE and C&D.

Hmm, when did Sonny T., Michael Bland and others get booted out of the NPG? Right after those sessions in early 1996?

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Reply #16 posted 09/05/13 12:31pm

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novabrkr said:

I just always thought there was something of a change in the way Prince wrote, arranged and recorded songs in overall around the time of the Emancipation. Sure, Emancipation has also tracks like Saviour on it that sound more like TGE and C&D.

Hmm, when did Sonny T., Michael Bland and others get booted out of the NPG? Right after those sessions in early 1996?

Not sure but they stopped touring in January and recorded a few things in early 96 and that was it I guess. There was a change indeed, which in great part due to Prince working intensively with Kirk Johnson I think. But because he had a change of sound didn't mean he had forgotten how to do things the way he did them right before the change. The first (confidential) single from Emancipation was actually released in December 1995, when the album was still a work in progress. On the other hand C&D and The Vault were projects built on earlier songs and when Prince updated some of these these tracks and recorded new material to complete the albums, he had in mind that he had to make these recordings cohesive. It wasn't the first time it happened: for example

Creating isn't only a compulsion, u also happen to plan things every once in a while wink

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Reply #17 posted 09/05/13 1:26pm

dJJ

Just listened again.


Really like them.

I think it's a shame that "dig you better dead" comes afther these 2.

Into the light/I will really open up and than there's the negativity of"dig you ..." in your face.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #18 posted 09/05/13 3:40pm

V10LETBLUES

Great track. I would put on this CD just for this track

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Reply #19 posted 09/05/13 5:08pm

EddieC

dJJ said:

Just listened again.


Really like them.

I think it's a shame that "dig you better dead" comes afther these 2.

Into the light/I will really open up and than there's the negativity of"dig you ..." in your face.

I always thought the change from "I Rock Therefore I Am" was more jarring--but then, I really don't much care for "I Rock...", and I like "Dig U Better Dead." Also, "Dig U Better Dead" clearly has a different musical feel, but it does carry on the spiritual vibe--the six month spirit questy thing at the beginning, the revelatory experience that "saved your ass from dying."

Yes, it describes the negative recent business experiences, and "somebody" said some sort of bizarre passive-aggressive stuff (he attributes that sort of thing to other "friends" from this period--like "My Computer"), but it's about "his God," who he wants us to know is "what he say[s]."

Anyway, the point is that I like "Into the Light/I Will." I join in the adoration.

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Reply #20 posted 09/05/13 6:39pm

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novabrkr said:

I just always thought there was something of a change in the way Prince wrote, arranged and recorded songs in overall around the time of the Emancipation. Sure, Emancipation has also tracks like Saviour on it that sound more like TGE and C&D.

Hmm, when did Sonny T., Michael Bland and others get booted out of the NPG? Right after those sessions in early 1996?

Nothing to do with the band.

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P just decided to give up on being a genious, and became a R&B artist instead.

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mad

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Reply #21 posted 09/05/13 7:53pm

buttcheeks

ME 2, Love it! Goes great with The Dawn

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Reply #22 posted 09/07/13 7:33pm

Aaron6

I love those two songs, actually the second half of " Chaos and Disorder" isn't bad, from "I Rock Therefore I Am" to "Had U" cool vibe and flow, the first of that album ( as we all know) is not his best work...IMO
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Reply #23 posted 09/07/13 9:52pm

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These sound to me like they're meant to go at the end of The Holy River (end of the vocal, before the guitar solo) and that he separated them out for 2 different releases and added the guitar solo to the end of the Holy River to replace these tracks. They end similarly.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #24 posted 09/08/13 12:34am

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Aaron6 said:

I love those two songs, actually the second half of " Chaos and Disorder" isn't bad, from "I Rock Therefore I Am" to "Had U" cool vibe and flow, the first of that album ( as we all know) is not his best work...IMO


Nothing wrong with the first half if you ask me. Title track has a killer riff and unlike many of Prince's attempts at rock it doesn't sound too glossy and overproduced. The Same December is an interesting piece, I especially dig all the changes in tempo. And Zanalee is a fucking beast of a track!!
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