inspireof said:

The most interesting bit of this interview is yet to come:

http://www.vita.mn/music/207467891.html

Scroll to the bottom:

"Check back later for much, much more from the interview, including Prince's answer to the burning question: Is his Afro real or a wig?"

Now I can't wait for his answer on that

Oh gosh...I had not posted that here on purpose 2 avoid the thread going that way...

lwr001 said:

NouveauDance said:

Looks like someone failed Biology 101.

yep i failed it, got me, satisfied

No

OLDHATJ said:

3rdeyedude said:

I'm sure he gets energy from them and creativity. Let's face it, the older we get the less engergetic and creative we are - unless you are a musical genius.

Also, he gets along with women better so this new band makes a lot of sense and I hope he tours the world with them. Think of what an amazing experience it is for the ladies. And that energy comes out in their performances no doubt.

Bream should not have tried to ask all that other crap. You think he would have known by now.

Speak for yourself.

WetDream said:

He sounds like he's going through a midlife crisis. Scared of getting old and thus surrounding himself with "kids" who have "all the ideas", sure, try telling that to Tom Waits, Kate Bush or David Bowie? These are artists comfortable with there own age and are executing innovative, NEW ideas on their own, making there consequent new albums creative originals that also put to shame an effort like 20ten or the god awful and infantile Screwdriver.

Furthermore, for a guy who's so down with the kids, he can't stop referencing old acts like Sly and James.

.

He's seemingly in a troubled place that many seem to hit around his age and him never having kids or a successful wife could be a big factor. I can only hope he comes out the other end happy and healthy if so.

.

For now, he's spouting nonsense, whether serious or not.

.

Something else that baffles me, he wants to learn from young people with "the new ideas", but quotes a man approaching 70, Larry Graham, as his mentor. As usual, massively contradictory, and also, insulting to Larry. Sorry, Larry, according to baby brother you have no new ideas and don't compare to kids with new ideas coming up with the likes of Screwdriver and LOL (the latter being one of the worst things to ever come out of paisley)....which, funnily enough, are songs based around a 90's sound - Grunge. Fresh for sure...

.

You can't take anything this guy says seriously lately. He sounds so dumbed down, worn out, deluded, lacking in intelligence and, something he so desperately wants to avoid....a bitter old man.

The sad thing is that i know that an intelligent genius sits underneath his latest mask.

.

Having said all that, i am still offering my strong support, believe in him, wish him the best and kind of look forward to the next step he takes.

It is neither contradictory nor insulting.

A mentor is, by definition, a guide. Someone with experience and knowledge that you find worthy of emulating.

Inspiration, on the other hand, can come from anywhere and anyone.

Mentoring is about the journey, inspiration is about the moment.

Remember the days when you would still be absorbing the 12" to the last album when you heard about the next, then, about a month later you were on to that new album?

Yeah....

I'm tired of hearing about a new album and ready to hear the album itself.

2elijah said:

purple1968 said:

---------- You need to pull your head out of your ass. Prince said Bob Dylan was not a crossover artist.

This is a true statement. Bob Dylan never put a song on the RnB chart the masses of African-American back in the day could not tell you who BoB Dylan was and I doubt many can tell you today.

It does not mean Bob was not talented just means he was not appealling to all racial groups.

P modeled his whole carreer after Sly in terms of crossover appeal. He certainly was not thinking about Bob Dylan.

Well, actually, many Blacks knew who Bob Dylan was, because depending on where you lived at the time, there wasn't that many 'Black radio stations', so many Blacks were pretty much familiar with mainly hearing maintream music from White musicians/artists on radio stations, that played mostly music from White musicians/artists. That may be surprising to some, but many Blacks were certainly familiar with the music of the the Beatles, Janis Joplin, Beach Boys, Simon & Garfunkel, the Righteous Brothers, Bob Dylan, and so many other White musicians.

Although, I agree, Dylan did not have a major crossover into the Black community, as a whole, with his music, but his name was familiar to some within the Black community, althhough, it didn't necessarily mean many Black Americans were buying Dylan's music.

I believe most Blacks in the mid 60s early 70s were more into Motown and soul ballads of Black male/female groups, but yes, I just remember Dylan as being among many, socially-conscious musicians, who sang songs in relation to social issues, like Joan Baez, Ritchie Havens, and others, that's just about it.

[Edited 5/15/13 8:51am]

--------- Well after a long drawn out response I guess you will admit that Bob Dylan did not put any songs on the RnB chart in his entire carreer.

Outside of musicians do you really think that Bob Dylan was that familar to the masses of Black Americans in the 60s or even now?

I do not know where you live but in my part of the country there is and were plenty of black radio stations and I can guarantee you they were not playing Bob Dylan then or now.

I know how much many of you want P to be wrong about everything but he is not wrong on this topic. He simply based his crossover success on Sly Stone you can even look up Alan Leeds discussing how P has studied lots of artist to chart his path.

Sly would have been one of those artist not Bob Dylan.

SuperSoulFighter said:

OLDHATJ said:

Prince is right about Bob Dylan. What a shame that at the end of the 1970's Bob didn't go the disco/r&b route like so many artists. Imagine Bob doing something like Do you Think I'm Sexy - It would have been great!

Check out New Pony from the 1978 Street Legal LP. No disco, but as close to soul music as Bob ever got. I's even got a honkin' sax solo. Who said Bob didn't cross over?!

The facts but do not let that stop you.

So Prince ain't into Bob Dylan's music? So what, is that a crime? I can't understand y'all jumping at him like that. It's not as if he said Dylan did crap, just that he wasn't interested in what Dylan was doing. Now I got a big scoop: I ain't into Dylan EITHER. So y'all can blame me now, ok?

I suspect some people on this thread would look at crossing over to the r&b charts as a step down for Dylan.

purple1968 said:

2elijah said:

Well, actually, many Blacks knew who Bob Dylan was, because depending on where you lived at the time, there wasn't that many 'Black radio stations', so many Blacks were pretty much familiar with mainly hearing maintream music from White musicians/artists on radio stations, that played mostly music from White musicians/artists. That may be surprising to some, but many Blacks were certainly familiar with the music of the the Beatles, Janis Joplin, Beach Boys, Simon & Garfunkel, the Righteous Brothers, Bob Dylan, and so many other White musicians.

Although, I agree, Dylan did not have a major crossover into the Black community, as a whole, with his music, but his name was familiar to some within the Black community, althhough, it didn't necessarily mean many Black Americans were buying Dylan's music.

I believe most Blacks in the mid 60s early 70s were more into Motown and soul ballads of Black male/female groups, but yes, I just remember Dylan as being among many, socially-conscious musicians, who sang songs in relation to social issues, like Joan Baez, Ritchie Havens, and others, that's just about it.

[Edited 5/15/13 8:51am]

--------- Well after a long drawn out response I guess you will admit that Bob Dylan did not put any songs on the RnB chart in his entire carreer.

Outside of musicians do you really think that Bob Dylan was that familar to the masses of Black Americans in the 60s or even now?

I do not know where you live but in my part of the country there is and were plenty of black radio stations and I can guarantee you they were not playing Bob Dylan then or now.

I know how much many of you want P to be wrong about everything but he is not wrong on this topic. He simply based his crossover success on Sly Stone you can even look up Alan Leeds discussing how P has studied lots of artist to chart his path.

Sly would have been one of those artist not Bob Dylan.

If my response is too long for you, it's okay to pass it by, no worries, but apparently you seemed to miss the point in my post, because I never said Prince was wrong about Dylan not being able to crossover, because Prince is right, Dylan did not crossover to a large Black population, but many Blacks knew of Dylan, and I specifically stated, because of that, did not mean those who knew of Dylan, like myself, mean they supported or purchased his music., just knew of his name.

I am from New York City, and an older fan, pretty much from Prince's era, and grew up with the music of JB, Sly, even Santana, all the Black soul ballad groups, and listened to the music of mamy White musicians/ artists/groups, from the Beatles, the Rascals, 3 Dog Night, etc., I lived through those eras, and also remember when Prince first came to the scene in the late 70s. I lived through some of Jimi Hendrix's music later down the road, and just about all the well-known late 60s/70s/80s and 90s music eras.

I was pretty much exposed to every kind of music, growing up and living in New York City. There were 2 major Black radio stations when I was younger - WWRL and later WBLS, the most listened to stations by a Black audience, that focused on mainly r&b/soul, etc. So no, I did not say Prince was wrong.just that a small population of Blacks knew of Dylan and his music, again--did not mean they supported his music even though his name was out there.

[Edited 5/15/13 10:36am]

databank said:

So Prince ain't into Bob Dylan's music? So what, is that a crime? I can't understand y'all jumping at him like that. It's not as if he said Dylan did crap, just that he wasn't interested in what Dylan was doing. Now I got a big scoop: I ain't into Dylan EITHER. So y'all can blame me now, ok?

I was never into Dylan's music as well, just knew of his name, like other artists' music I wasn't into.

LittleSister said:

According to the interview he met Julia last year during the L.A. tour, but it turns out she was already working for him at age 20.

She's mentioned in the staff section of the Welcome 2 Canada tourbook (2011) :

Julia Ramadan : Assistant & Teleprompter

seriously, W-T-F-?. how many of these 18 year old horses does prince keep in his stables,

just waiting for them to turn of legal age so he can make them part of his team?

.

and always the same story: they met prince when they were even younger, but he was a

cool dude and waited till they were 21.

.

cool and classy as that might have been to some when prince was 31, it's now becoming a

bit alarming, unnerving and even creepy to me when prince is 'mentoring' these girls who

have fathers that are 10 years prince's junior.

.

furthermore, seems like the same old same old prince interview. talk of a new album that

is coming 'later this year' through yet a new outlet (although this one has potential to be a

great partner, if prince doesn't bite the hand that tries to feed yet again).

.

dissing some artists and their achievements in favor of others that prince is feeling today.

.

dissing whole groups of society like the old or the homosexual. well, to be fair he has

not really dissed gay people of late, he just ignores questions about them or their rights,

and he regularly performa bambi live which some people seem to think is like prince just

stating that he is pro gay, lol. except, the lyrics are all about telling a lesbian how wrong

she is and that she really should be straight. despite sexual overtones, that's why he's so

keen on still performing this 'dirty' song.

.

some mumbling about pseudo science, foot in mouth weirdness and that's it, a brand new

prince interview.

still, i'm dying for a new album. but the printed word on prince hasn't been exciting or in

any way insightful for at least a decade now. if anyone else said some of the shit prince

comes out with they would be headline news. but people know that prince is just koo koo

and always throws around this weird, vague, insulting or flat out untrue shit and then as

they try to call him out prince is all like "who, me? i never said that, listen interviewers,

let me tell you about them and their hidden agenda..."

the weird thing is, i love him for being such a dick. but it's a bit much these days. it'd just

be nice to get him to talk about music again, new ideas, new songs, new deals, about the

plans for the future, about anything really, except jail bait and pseudo science/religion.

2elijah said:

purple1968 said:

--------- Well after a long drawn out response I guess you will admit that Bob Dylan did not put any songs on the RnB chart in his entire carreer.

Outside of musicians do you really think that Bob Dylan was that familar to the masses of Black Americans in the 60s or even now?

I do not know where you live but in my part of the country there is and were plenty of black radio stations and I can guarantee you they were not playing Bob Dylan then or now.

I know how much many of you want P to be wrong about everything but he is not wrong on this topic. He simply based his crossover success on Sly Stone you can even look up Alan Leeds discussing how P has studied lots of artist to chart his path.

Sly would have been one of those artist not Bob Dylan.

If my response is too long for you, it's okay to pass it by, no worries, but apparently you seemed to miss the point in my post, because I never said Prince was wrong about Dylan not being able to crossover, because Prince is right, Dylan did not crossover to a large Black population, but many Blacks knew of Dylan, and I specifically stated, because of that, did not mean those who knew of Dylan, like myself, did not mean they supported or purchased his music., just knew of his name.

I am from New York City, and an older fan, pretty much from Prince's era, and grew up with the music of JB, Sly, even Santana, all the Black soul ballad groups, and listened to the music of mamy White musicians/ artists/groups, from the Beatles, the Rascals, 3 Dog Night, etc., I lived through those eras, and also remember when Prince first came to the scene in the late 70s. I lived through some of Jimi Hendrix's music later down the road, and just about all the well-known late 60s/70s/80s and 90s music eras.

I was pretty much exposed to every kind of music, growing up and living in New York City. There were 2 major Black radio stations when I was younger - WWRL and later WBLS, the most listened to stations by a Black audience, that focused on mainly r&b/soul, etc. So no, I did not say Prince was wrong.just that a small population of Blacks knew of Dylan and his music, again--did not mean they supported his music even though his name was out there.

[Edited 5/15/13 10:32am]

-------- I missed the point because your response was not clear at all but I am glad you cleared it up because most of the people upset about his comments about Dylan are missing P's point entirely.

IstenSzek said:

LittleSister said:

According to the interview he met Julia last year during the L.A. tour, but it turns out she was already working for him at age 20.

She's mentioned in the staff section of the Welcome 2 Canada tourbook (2011) :

Julia Ramadan : Assistant & Teleprompter

seriously, W-T-F-?. how many of these 18 year old horses does prince keep in his stables,

just waiting for them to turn of legal age so he can make them part of his team?

.

and always the same story: they met prince when they were even younger, but he was a

cool dude and waited till they were 21.

.

cool and classy as that might have been to some when prince was 31, it's now becoming a

bit alarming, unnerving and even creepy to me when prince is 'mentoring' these girls who

have fathers that are 10 years prince's junior.

.

furthermore, seems like the same old same old prince interview. talk of a new album that

is coming 'later this year' through yet a new outlet (although this one has potential to be a

great partner, if prince doesn't bite the hand that tries to feed yet again).

.

dissing some artists and their achievements in favor of others that prince is feeling today.

.

dissing whole groups of society like the old or the homosexual. well, to be fair he has

not really dissed gay people of late, he just ignores questions about them or their rights,

and he regularly performa bambi live which some people seem to think is like prince just

stating that he is pro gay, lol. except, the lyrics are all about telling a lesbian how wrong

she is and that she really should be straight. despite sexual overtones, that's why he's so

keen on still performing this 'dirty' song.

.

some mumbling about pseudo science, foot in mouth weirdness and that's it, a brand new

prince interview.

still, i'm dying for a new album. but the printed word on prince hasn't been exciting or in

any way insightful for at least a decade now. if anyone else said some of the shit prince

comes out with they would be headline news. but people know that prince is just koo koo

and always throws around this weird, vague, insulting or flat out untrue shit and then as

they try to call him out prince is all like "who, me? i never said that, listen interviewers,

let me tell you about them and their hidden agenda..."

the weird thing is, i love him for being such a dick. but it's a bit much these days. it'd just

be nice to get him to talk about music again, new ideas, new songs, new deals, about the

plans for the future, about anything really, except jail bait and pseudo science/religion.

"dissing some artists " He did not dis anyone in this article. He ignores questions about gays because it is a powder keg and he is only going to get himself into trouble by discussin it with a journalist. In addtion, it has nothing to do with his music at all.

----- Some of fans are really making up things and reading some other interview!!! What is going on?

IstenSzek said:

the weird thing is, i love him for being such a dick. but it's a bit much these days. it'd just

be nice to get him to talk about music again, new ideas, new songs, new deals, about the

plans for the future, about anything really, except jail bait and pseudo science/religion.

Has he ever done that?

purple1968 said:

2elijah said:

If my response is too long for you, it's okay to pass it by, no worries, but apparently you seemed to miss the point in my post, because I never said Prince was wrong about Dylan not being able to crossover, because Prince is right, Dylan did not crossover to a large Black population, but many Blacks knew of Dylan, and I specifically stated, because of that, did not mean those who knew of Dylan, like myself, did not mean they supported or purchased his music., just knew of his name.

I am from New York City, and an older fan, pretty much from Prince's era, and grew up with the music of JB, Sly, even Santana, all the Black soul ballad groups, and listened to the music of mamy White musicians/ artists/groups, from the Beatles, the Rascals, 3 Dog Night, etc., I lived through those eras, and also remember when Prince first came to the scene in the late 70s. I lived through some of Jimi Hendrix's music later down the road, and just about all the well-known late 60s/70s/80s and 90s music eras.

I was pretty much exposed to every kind of music, growing up and living in New York City. There were 2 major Black radio stations when I was younger - WWRL and later WBLS, the most listened to stations by a Black audience, that focused on mainly r&b/soul, etc. So no, I did not say Prince was wrong.just that a small population of Blacks knew of Dylan and his music, again--did not mean they supported his music even though his name was out there.

[Edited 5/15/13 10:32am]

-------- I missed the point because your response was not clear at all but I am glad you cleared it up because most of the people upset about his comments about Dylan are missing P's point entirely.

That's why I didn't understand your response, because I agreed that Dylan was not able to crossover to a Black audience with his music, like Sly, Jimi, Prince were able to, even though Dylan's name was out there.

[Edited 5/15/13 10:41am]

SuperSoulFighter said:

The point is, Bob had a HUGE influence on pop music and that includes black pop music (whatever that means) even if there weren't an awful lot of black people buying his records. The comment Prince made seemed kind of arrogant because he didn't explain himself and also seemed to ignore what I mentioned above. (and Elijah.) So you can expect some criticism.

No there should not be any criticism Bob Dylan was not a crossover artist. That is all. That is it. No matter how much you want it to be so it will not be.

This whole thing is so crazy only Prince.org

purple1968 said:

IstenSzek said:

seriously, W-T-F-?. how many of these 18 year old horses does prince keep in his stables,

just waiting for them to turn of legal age so he can make them part of his team?

.

and always the same story: they met prince when they were even younger, but he was a

cool dude and waited till they were 21.

.

cool and classy as that might have been to some when prince was 31, it's now becoming a

bit alarming, unnerving and even creepy to me when prince is 'mentoring' these girls who

have fathers that are 10 years prince's junior.

.

furthermore, seems like the same old same old prince interview. talk of a new album that

is coming 'later this year' through yet a new outlet (although this one has potential to be a

great partner, if prince doesn't bite the hand that tries to feed yet again).

.

dissing some artists and their achievements in favor of others that prince is feeling today.

.

dissing whole groups of society like the old or the homosexual. well, to be fair he has

not really dissed gay people of late, he just ignores questions about them or their rights,

and he regularly performa bambi live which some people seem to think is like prince just

stating that he is pro gay, lol. except, the lyrics are all about telling a lesbian how wrong

she is and that she really should be straight. despite sexual overtones, that's why he's so

keen on still performing this 'dirty' song.

.

some mumbling about pseudo science, foot in mouth weirdness and that's it, a brand new

prince interview.

still, i'm dying for a new album. but the printed word on prince hasn't been exciting or in

any way insightful for at least a decade now. if anyone else said some of the shit prince

comes out with they would be headline news. but people know that prince is just koo koo

and always throws around this weird, vague, insulting or flat out untrue shit and then as

they try to call him out prince is all like "who, me? i never said that, listen interviewers,

let me tell you about them and their hidden agenda..."

the weird thing is, i love him for being such a dick. but it's a bit much these days. it'd just

be nice to get him to talk about music again, new ideas, new songs, new deals, about the

plans for the future, about anything really, except jail bait and pseudo science/religion.

"dissing some artists " He did not dis anyone in this article. He ignores questions about gays because it is a powder keg and he is only going to get himself into trouble by discussin it with a journalist. In addtion, it has nothing to do with his music at all.

----- Some of fans are really making up things and reading some other interview!!! What is going on?

well you're right, my comments are not just about this interview, true. it's more a global idea

i get about prince through his interviews these last 10 years.

global. because the interviews that do appear in print are always all over the place and never

really go in depth on a certain topic. it's just quips and short lines. and that's as much a fault

of the interviewer/writer than prince's. so we can't blaim prince for that.

but there are certain themes that keep popping up over and over again. also probably due to

the interviewers asking him the same questions again and again. but also because prince has

a way of stearing interviews in a certain direction. if he feels uncomfortable with a question or

just doesn't feel like talking about a certain topic he simply answers an entirely different set

of questions, as if that's what the interviewer was asking him about

i used to think that was pretty clever and balsy, in a way i still think it is. he has that power of

persona, to simply dismiss questions as unworthy of his time and then school people on what

he feels they should actually know or be interested in.

i just wish he had a bit more to say, that's all.

paulludvig said:

I suspect some people on this thread would look at crossing over to the r&b charts as a step down for Dylan.

Not at the time he was famous, probably now yes

*
He mentioned Jimi crossing over, did Jimi have to cross over? Or was he already there?

I mean was Jimi an artist with a huge or predominate 'Black' audience and then at some point, "white" people caught on? Or was the group he had to cross over to a "black" audience, because he was already accepted by a more "white" audience...

I think Prince is going for the "white" demographic again. That's why we get a rock tour, and it's also the reason he's emphasising the importance of crossover success in his interview. In that light it's a mistake to criticise Dylan, who is a hero to most self styled intellectual, middle class white people (as some of the responses to this thread show)

[Edited 5/15/13 13:19pm]

[Edited 5/16/13 8:06am]

How is Bream supposed to show the interview when idiot Prince won't let him record it? Give the guy some slack, nobody can understand a thing Prince says.

He is in denial about his own age and he is worried. Because Whitney and MJ died he is scared about the coming darkness.

I guess he is saying that if you are poor you better panhandle for a ticket. Only the super rich need apply. How very punk of him. lol

NikkiAndTheRevolution said:

3 questions and a statement. 1.) Who eats pizza with a fork?

actually, this is quite a funny tidbit in the interview. who does that, indeed

perhaps the pizza was already cut into little pieces for him by donna, since

poor old grandpa prince has difficulty eating a whole slice for fear his dentures

might drop out during the interview. so prince just picked up the little pieces

with a fork during the interview?

oh the perks of having an entourage of 20 year olds

You eat pizza with your hands, sucka!

He ate pizza? lol

I guess the question is, when has Prince really ever been so "graceful" with social etiquette? My recollection is that that is rarely the case, so whilst I don't agree with him regarding older people, I think the point he is actually genuinely trying to communicate is just how much he is being invigorated by his new band, who as a matter of fact are all considerably younger than he is. Anyone who has borne witness to the 3rd Eye Girl concerts, or previewed the bootlegs, can clearly how DIFFERENT the vibe is, and there are certainly moments of spine tingling inspiration that we haven't seen in quite some time. Back in the early Gold era, few hardcore fans complained about hearing that similar vibe and inspiration off the back of his live shows covering mostly new material prior to the potential release of Come and The Gold Experience. Even Bream is conscious of the fact that "Daddy" P is clearly proud of this new band's talent, making the point clear "like a proud father". I think the comment about old people, whilst unfortunate in certain respects, is being taken somewhat out of context. Within the same article, as others have alluded, Prince clearly has respect for an elder, wiser, crowd, naming Larry Graham once again in such terms. The fact that he is stating out loud a clear intention to release a record, citing a potential new partner in distribution, is to be positively viewed in my opinion, and it is a shame that it seems to be getting lost in the largely unneccesary dialogue about other matters, including Dylan. It is clear that Prince was heavily influenced by many other greats, more explicitly, than someone like Dylan, so it really is no surprise that he does not include him in his list of influences.

Spirit

NikkiAndTheRevolution said:

I do. French fries/chips too.

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